Catalyst Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (CPRX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 15, 2024

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#1

My name is Bhavin Patel. And I'm one of the biopharma equity research analyst at BofA. I'm joined today by Rich Daly, CEO; and Steve Miller, Chief Operating Officer and Chief Scientific Officer of Catalyst Pharmaceuticals.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#2

So I guess we'll start off today more high-level strategy questions. So first, can you speak to how actively the company is engaged in finding another BD deal? And how important is it to have an asset to mitigate any near-term FYCOMPA-related generic headwinds?

Richard John Daly

executive
#3

Well, Bhavin, thank you, and I want to thank BofA for the invitation to be here today. So we're really appreciative. So thank you very much for the support that the bank has given us. So on the strategy, we're looking at the opportunity to go and to stay in the orphan space, obviously, and spend our time looking at opportunities to broaden our opportunities in the space, beyond CNS. We like the opportunities that we see out there, and we are deeply engaged in multiple conversations with many, many banks -- sorry, I apologize many, many companies for the opportunity to build our portfolio. We are a buy-and-build company. We've done a really good job of buying assets and integrating them into the business and then executing on the assets that we have. We're really excited about FIRDAPSE. We've done a really good job there. The growth there is phenomenal. It's double digit, 15% to 20% year-on-year for 5 years. FYCOMPA was a great asset for us. It's a solid player. And then we look at the launch of AGAMREE, and we're really excited about that. So we continue to look in that space, and we see ourselves as an orphan company looking to expand beyond CNS as well.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#4

And maybe can you walk us through the criteria in terms of deal sizing of the stage of the assets and the therapeutic areas that you're looking for? And then the second part of the question is in what time horizon do you think you're going to move beyond the buy-and-build stages of company and move into developing R&D capabilities?

Richard John Daly

executive
#5

Great questions. So we want to buy assets that are immediately accretive or nearly immediately accretive. We want to build on that income statement and build the balance sheet. So we look at things that are either on market. The NDA is filed or the NDA is about to be filed. So Phase III is pretty much over and done. So we're mitigating our clinical risk. We're willing to take on reasonable regulatory risk and then we really understand the commercial space. We're willing to take that risk on because we understand that we do -- we face that risk really well. Moving beyond those things and moving further back into the pipeline, Steve and his team did a great job of developing FIRDAPSE. We had a development organization at one time, and we did that really, really well to bring that product to market. And again, you look at the way that product was developing and delivering 15% to 20% growth for 5 years in a row. That's phenomenal. So we want to work our way back into the pipeline again at the appropriate time because we believe that there are inflection opportunities there that will help drive the value of the company. But right now, it's not our time. We still need to build that diversity and opportunity in our income statement and so that we have that stability across the entire income statement, so we can feel a lot more comfortable taking what we believe is measured risk from a development standpoint. We're not there yet. So time frame to be measured. I think another asset acquisition, another digest it, see where we stand and go from there.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#6

Then last question on BD before we move on to the product portfolio. But in terms of deal sizing, I mean, we see the cash on the balance sheet and the cash flow generation. But are you willing to take on any debt to flex in terms of deal sizing. I guess Pat's philosophy was that he was averse to debt. But do you have a similar sort of view on that?

Richard John Daly

executive
#7

Yes. So when you're a start-up company, obviously, I think you want to be very, very conservative in your approach to how you run the business. And I give kudos to Pat, what a phenomenal job, what an absolutely phenomenal job. He and Steve did in shepherding the company through some very challenging times. And I think the leadership that he showed over the years and bringing the company to where it is. I mean, if you did a screen on companies that were CNS, orphan and profitable, I think you might find one, and that's us. And so Pat did a great job. Pat is obviously our Chairman of the Board now, and we've had a number of conversations. So we have about $300 million on the balance sheet right now, and we want to put that money to use. Would we go higher than that? Could we take on debt? The answer is yes. Absolutely. We would do that. For the right deal at the right time, we would absolutely do that. Yes.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#8

Perfect. Let's get into the product portfolio. So AGAMREE is the newest product that you guys have added to your portfolio, and you had -- you launched the product on March 13. And can you speak to the prelaunch efforts and the number of unsolicited requests for patients to get on to AGAMREE? And how do you expect that to benefit early revenue generation?

Richard John Daly

executive
#9

Sure. So yes, no and yes. So I can speak to the early marketing efforts. We did an early enrollment starting December 1. And we've got a number of patients engaged with us. We did our early -- our earnings announcement on December -- sorry, on February 29, and we gave guidance for the product and launch it because we saw what was happening with the product and the interest in the product and where the patients were coming from. So Duchenne, there's not an opportunity to grow this market. This is a cannibalization opportunity. And so we saw where they were coming from. We saw a lot of parameters about the patients. We had a lot of confidence about what was happening in the marketplace. So we were really excited about that. We have not given guidance or not given any indication of the numbers of patients. So that's the no part of it. I apologize for that. What was the third part of your question?

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#10

Third part of the question -- and how do you expect that to benefit early revenue generation?

Richard John Daly

executive
#11

So great. So we had about $1.2 million in revenue in the first 2 weeks of the product over the last 2 weeks of the quarter with product launch, and so really excited about that. So we see these patients rolling through very quickly, and we're getting approval for these patients, and we're really excited about that because of the potential benefits we think this can bring for the patients and their families and the communities in which they live. We think there's a lot of opportunity here. But we also saw physicians being very conservative in letting their patients enroll in the program, this precommercial launch program because they didn't want the patients to be disappointed. So they said, wait until the product actually launches even though the product is approved and will let you enroll in this program. And what we said, and we're very clear about this, we expected first quarter sales to be very thin. That's one thing I said, probably 100 times is we expect it to be very thin, but then we expect it to step up in the second quarter. And so we really saw this once the product was launched, it was announced, we saw a significant step-up in enrollments. And so we expect this to carry over to the second quarter and beyond. So we're really excited about that.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#12

And so longer term, do you -- can you describe where you expect patients to come from, whether that's prednisone or EMFLAZA? And how does the genericization of EMFLAZA impact your outlook on the launch for AGAMREE?

Richard John Daly

executive
#13

Great. So because of this pre-enrollment we did, we have great insight into where the patients are coming from. Again, cannibalization markets, so 47% of the patients who were pre-enrolled prior to the launch of the product were from EMFLAZA, 41% were from prednisone and 10% were naive or the remainder, I should say, were naive. So the opportunity there is really interesting because we expected it mostly to come from EMFLAZA, but there's a lot of interest in potentially -- the products that might be potentially better than what's on the market. So we're really excited about that opportunity. So as we go through this, we see that there's this opportunity to improve the standard of care. And so we want to take this and help the patients get better.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#14

Maybe I'll turn to Steve next. In terms of AGAMREE's clinical profile, what aspects do you think differentiated the most in the treatment landscape?

Steven Miller

executive
#15

Well, during the clinical trials, it was observed by the physicians and the patients and caregivers in that trial, anecdotally, they observe much better behavioral patterns from the children who are taking the drug. It's a little short to observe growth, but there was some comments about growth. And generally, they observed less side effects that were corticosteroid kinds of side effects. And it's a result of all those observations that the -- both the caregivers and the doctors are very optimistic about the future for AGAMREE and are willing to give it a try.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#16

And is there any additional data that you might publish or present in terms of head-to-head versus prednisone on bone biomarkers and stature.

Steven Miller

executive
#17

I think most of the data versus prednisone has already been published. We are actually starting a study called the SUMMIT study that will run for at least 5 years in which we will collect data from a number of patients who will be treated with AGAMREE. The purpose of that study is to collect additional safety data so that we can periodically update our label and the study will be conducted in accordance with the FDA's guidance on use of real-world data to amend and expand your product label.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#18

Great. Let's move to FIRDAPSE next. Maybe in terms of the small cell lung cancer opportunity within LEMS, can you speak to the baseline contribution and how you expect that to evolve moving forward?

Richard John Daly

executive
#19

Sure. So about 25% of the patients on FIRDAPSE are -- in our FIRDAPSE patient pool come from small cell lung cancer. We recently, last year, got the testing for small cell -- for LEMS added to the NCCN guidelines. And we're working with NCCN to get FIRDAPSE added to the guidelines as well because FIRDAPSE is the only approved product. So we expect that to grow over time.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#20

And can you speak to what drives the assumption or the guidance that FIRDAPSE is going to grow 15% to 20% year-over-year?

Richard John Daly

executive
#21

Sure. So this is a prospecting market. So we look for a certain markers in the market as to what physicians are doing. So the average physician will treat one LEMS patient in their entire career. So it's not like you can go to IQVIA and find which physicians on the top deciles. That's not the way this market works. But we look for markers and then we create a pool of patients who are on the treatment journey. And we have a patient pool of 500 who are in the journey, and we go out and talk to those physicians based on the markers that we find, and then as those patients progress through their journey, we actually help the physician identify that they actually have LEMS, not myasthenia gravis, which is a common misconception in this diagnosis, and we help the physician to get them on to the appropriate therapy. If it's [ perhaps great ], half of our patients every year come from this patient pool of 500.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#22

And so how do you -- how does the sales force go out and improve either diagnosis or treatment rates? And what are the levers that they pull? I mean, I guess the first thing that comes to mind is the antibody testing.

Steven Miller

executive
#23

Well, we actually offer a free antibody testing for those patients who simply don't have the proper insurance that pays for it. Most of the time it's paid for by insurance. It's a test for the antibody that is actually the cause of LEMS. And the physicians basically are trained both through a number of nonpersonal promotion items as well as interactions with our medical science liaisons who help the doctors understand that this is how you diagnose the patients. And upon diagnosis, the treatment is FIRDAPSE.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#24

And then moving on to the legal stuff that's going on, what's the next milestone in the ongoing suit with the Markman that might come up in the near term?

Steven Miller

executive
#25

Yes. The next thing that would happen in the progress of these suits is what's called a Markman construction hearing, which should be in the near future. There's not a lot I can say about ongoing litigation. I'll just tell you that we recognize that it can give -- cause some uncertainty in the minds of investors, and we're working hard to bring this to as quick a conclusion as possible and as favorable a manner to Catalyst as possible.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#26

Yes. And then for the method patent, how common is it that the doctors are determining dosing regimens based on NAT metabolism status. Yes, this is an issue that we've seen come up whether these optimization schemes are actually even used commonly in practice.

Steven Miller

executive
#27

Well, because the dosing and administration section of the [ insert ] sheet has a low starting dose, they're effectively practicing the invention with every patient.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#28

Okay. And then on the second method patent covering methods of detecting drug degradation, is it safe to say that you think generics need to copy the patent or they'll produce a product that will fill to show equivalents due to the degradation issue?

Steven Miller

executive
#29

Well, the specific degradant that's called out in those patents is an amifampridine dimer that can be formed in a number of formulations. So the generic -- the generic developers of FIRDAPSE are going to have to develop formulas that don't develop that impurity.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#30

Yes. So we have a minute left. And I guess I want to go back to the strategy and you stated that you're going to go out there and acquire another asset. And so in terms of the therapeutic areas that you've been -- you've had a few months at least now to go out and do these screens. So maybe if you could share what therapeutic areas excite you the most and what you're seeing out there in the landscape?

Richard John Daly

executive
#31

So obviously, we like CNS a lot. That's an area we concentrate on, but we also are looking to expand because we want to be sure that we're covering the opportunities that exist. And we don't want to compete in a space where we can't obviously compete with the bigger players. We're looking for smaller opportunities. So we like cardiometabolic, we like immuno-oncology, as an example, of smaller spaces, too. We believe that the structure that we have as a company is one that enables us to compete across the board.

Bhavin Patel

analyst
#32

Great. With that, I think we're out of time. I want to thank everyone for attending. And thank you, Rich and Steve.

Richard John Daly

executive
#33

Thank you.

Steven Miller

executive
#34

Thank you, Bhavin.

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