CatchMark Timber Trust, Inc. (CTT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 31, 2022

NYSE US m_and_a 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning. My name is Rob, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the joint PotlatchDeltic and CatchMark Investor Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jerry Richards, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Potlatch PotlatchDeltic for opening remarks. Sir, you may proceed.

Jerry Richards

executive
#2

Thank you, Rob. Before we start the call, I want to remind everyone that this call will contain forward-looking statements. Please review the warning statements in our press release, on the presentation slides and in our filings with the SEC concerning the risks associated with these forward-looking statements. I'd like to welcome you to the joint PotlatchDeltic and CatchMark Investor Call and Webcast. With me in the room are Eric Cremers, President and Chief Executive Officer of PotlatchDeltic; and Brian Davis, President and Chief Executive Officer of CatchMark. This morning, PotlatchDeltic and CatchMark issued a joint press release announcing a business combination to further enhance our position as a leading timberland REIT and lumber manufacturer. We're excited to discuss the strategic and financial rationale of bringing these 2 great companies together. I'll now hand the call over to Eric to discuss the merger.

Eric Cremers

executive
#3

Thank you, Jerry. Good morning, and thank you for joining our call on short notice. I'm excited to be in Atlanta, Georgia this morning with Brian Davis to announce the merger of 2 great companies with a considerable history of timberland ownership. This combination will further diversify PotlatchDeltic as we will own nearly 2.2 million acres of timberland across 8 states. Importantly, approximately 70% of our timberland ownership will be in highly productive and strengthening Southern markets. CatchMark operates in some of the strongest markets in the U.S. South with a deep base of well-capitalized mill customers. We will also continue to produce about 1.1 billion board feet of lumber annually, along with 150 million square feet of industrial grade plywood in our Wood Products business. Upon completing the merger, we will still be the timber REIT with the most leverage to lumber prices, and we will continue to enjoy the upside from strong U.S. housing fundamentals. In addition, the combination will result in a diverse real estate portfolio with CatchMark's timberlands located close to large population centers. We plan to leverage our rural land sales expertise and strategy along with the CatchMark team's local market knowledge to maximize rural real estate sales opportunities. Increasingly, we are seeing interest in natural climate solution projects such as the attractive solar transaction we closed in the first quarter. The company will be headquartered in Spokane, Washington, and I will continue to serve as President and CEO, and Mike Covey will also remain Chairperson. We plan to maintain a regional office here in Atlanta. There are 3 major benefits to the combination of the companies that will provide meaningful CAD synergies going forward. First, there is an opportunity to reduce the cost of managing CatchMark's timberlands by in-sourcing those activities and managing them under the successful PotlatchDeltic model. Second, there is also an opportunity to reduce corporate overhead, which is currently required to run 2 separate stand-alone public companies. Third, we plan to use a portion of our existing interest rate swaps to refinance CatchMark's debt at lower rates. There are a series of slides accompanying this presentation, which provide more detail about the merger and outline the benefits. Let me offer some background on how we got here and then Brian will provide some comments on why he and the CatchMark Board feel this is the right combination for their organization. We approached CatchMark about combining our company several months ago. We had many discussions with Brian and his team to explore the merits of a merger, and we are pleased to have reached an agreement that benefits both companies. Under the terms of the transaction, CatchMark stockholders will receive 0.23 shares of PotlatchDeltic stock for each CatchMark share. This values the company at approximately $919 million based on PotlatchDeltic's closing share price on May 27, 2022, including approximately $273 million of CatchMark net debt. Importantly, this stock structure will provide stockholders of both companies with the opportunity to participate in the significant upside potential of this combination. We are confident that combining our complementary assets and operations will allow us to create stockholder value greater than what could be achieved by either company independently. The merger is expected to close in the second half of this year, subject to completion of customary closing conditions, including approval by CatchMark stockholders. We look forward to achieving the benefits of the combination. Now let me turn it over to Brian for some comments.

Brian Davis

executive
#4

Thank you, Eric. I agree with Eric's comments wholeheartedly. We at CatchMark are excited about combining the 2 companies and unlocking value for our stockholders. Over the last 2 years, we set out to simplify our business, reduce leverage and position CatchMark for growth. We also developed a comprehensive plan to maximize value for our stockholders on a stand-alone basis. Our recent strong results highlighted those efforts. We also conducted a robust and competitive exploration process with several external parties, including PotlatchDeltic, having considered all the options that CatchMark Board and I are convinced that combination with PotlatchDeltic is the best path forward for our stockholders. I'm personally committed to work with Eric, the other senior executives and the Board of Directors to ensure we successfully execute on the potential of the merger to unlock value and capture the significant benefits of the combined company. Let me turn it back over to Eric for additional comments.

Eric Cremers

executive
#5

Well, thank you, Brian. We very much look forward to working with you to make the combined companies one of the nation's leading timber REITs. We are confident about the financial underpinnings of this merger and its benefits for the stockholders and employees of both companies. Excluding onetime costs needed to achieve the synergies and a full synergy run rate, we expect cash available for distribution or CAD per share will be modestly accretive in the first full year after the merger closes. As you can see on Slide 12, in our materials, we've identified an estimated $16 million of synergies that will lead to an increase in CAD. We are confident in our ability to attain these synergies, especially with Brian's knowledge and help. We will issue approximately 11.5 million shares of PotlatchDeltic's stock to CatchMark's stockholders to consummate the merger. Once the merger is complete, CatchMark stockholders will see their dividend increase approximately 35% and when you adjust PotlatchDeltic's current regular dividend for the exchange ratio. The addition of CatchMark's cash flows and the CAD synergies provide strong coverage for our attractive and growing dividend. Also, continued strong lumber prices mean there is a high potential that we will pay a special dividend in 2022. Before opening it up to questions, let me say again how excited we are to be combining 2 great companies that will offer investors more scale and liquidity, a larger geographic footprint more market diversity and a sustainable long-term value. For the employees of each company, there will be more opportunities for growth and advancement. We are also pleased to continue a strong presence in Atlanta and throughout the rural communities where both companies operate. We continue to have strong earnings from our core businesses here in the second quarter, and we expect to report another excellent quarter on our earnings conference call in July. Rob, we will now turn the call over for questions.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Mark Weintraub from Seaport Research Partners.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#7

So first question, as we think about the targeted $55 million of EBITDDA on a go-forward basis, including the synergies, how much, if any, is related to non-timber harvest type of monies in that $55 million?

Eric Cremers

executive
#8

Mark, this is Eric. It's typical of most timber REITs. It's roughly a 1/3, 2/3 split, 1/3 kind of the real estate side and 2/3 of the timber side. I see that in our business quite often. I see it in Rayonier's business quite often. That seems to be the typical split, and that's no different here.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#9

Okay. And when we look at the harvest rates for this year, for CatchMark, which they provided in their guidance, is that kind of the sustainable harvest level? And maybe more specifically, is the harvest levels in that $65 million -- where is that kind of on a sustainable basis versus long-term? Is it right at it, a little low? Maybe if you could just talk a little bit about the harvest profile going forward.

Eric Cremers

executive
#10

Yes, Mark, it's a good question. So CatchMark's guidance is 1.6 million to 1.8 million tons per year. So we obtained their timber inventory detail as we are working through due diligence, and we completed an in-depth harvest schedule analysis as part of our due diligence. We think their harvest volume going forward will be in this 1.6 million to 1.8 million tons for about the next 10 years or so. And then it will drop just a little bit, maybe 100,000 tons or so for a few years, and then it will come back a few years down the road after that. So it will be in that ZIP code. There will be a dip in about 10 years, but it's a very modest dip.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#11

Okay. And you mentioned accretive on a CAD basis in the first year -- to the extent you can provide more color on how you get to that, that would be great. And also, you said that, that sort of did not include onetime costs, if you could just sort of bracket the size of the onetime cash outflows, in particular, that would be helpful.

Eric Cremers

executive
#12

Yes. So Mark, as we look at the pro forma going forward after synergies, CAD is around $42 million per year on average. And if I think about the incremental shares that we're going to be issuing in the merger, 11.5 million shares, I think about our current run rate and our dividend [ $1.76 ], that's about $20 million per year and increased dividend payments to the shares will be issuing to CatchMark's stockholders. So if our average is $42 million going forward and our extra dividend is $20 million, so there's a net $22 million that's accretive across all 81 million shares.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#13

Okay. So that sort of like an EVA-type calculation, just to clarify as opposed to a per share. Is that the way to think of that?

Eric Cremers

executive
#14

Yes. Yes.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#15

Got it. Okay.

Eric Cremers

executive
#16

You asked a question about onetime cost. Jerry, you want that?

Jerry Richards

executive
#17

Yes. You bet. So Mark, in terms of onetime costs, the estimate is it's a range of somewhere between $25 million and $30 million and that includes investment banking and adviser fees for both companies, change in control payments. It also is -- has some offsets. When we think about refinancing CatchMark's debt. They have some interest rate swaps that are nicely in the money and they also have some patrons in form of equity that will be refunded over time as well.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#18

Okay. And is that -- can you ballpark what those are? Is that relative to the $25 million, $30 million?

Jerry Richards

executive
#19

Yes. So the interest rate swap, I think the last valuation I saw was the end of April is about $12 million. And then the patronage that would come back is in the $4 million to $5 million range.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#20

Okay. Great. And if I could sneak one last one in and then certainly hand over. But since you bought up on the refinance, could you kind of explain a little bit how you're going to use interest rate swaps and how that's going to be to the benefit of shareholders.

Jerry Richards

executive
#21

You bet, Mark. So if you recall, back in March of 2020, when financial markets were dislocated. We did a large interest rate swap that essentially locked in a whole series of future refinances for us into January 2029, just extraordinarily attractive levels. And we've had those swaps outstanding. And the value recently of the whole trade is between $90 million and $100 million, if they're in the money. So we have an opportunity here to pull a portion of the remaining swaps forward and actually apply those to the refinance of CatchMark's debt. And what that does at the end of the day is where you have -- when I go get quotes from farm credit system, I think about it net of patronage, the -- to get a fixed rate loan is probably on a 10-year basis is probably around 4% or so, maybe a little higher. Using these swaps will allow us to refinance at like about 2.35% just to give you the latest quote. So not only reduce CatchMark's interest expense run rate, but also we're also going to be able to refinance it well below market rates currently.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#22

And so is that what -- because I think Eric had mentioned a $42 million CAD number when we were just having a quick conversation there, which is different, obviously, from the $55 million. Is that related to the difference between those 2 numbers? Or is there something else going on?

Jerry Richards

executive
#23

Yes. Yes. If I were to step back, Mark, make sure that we have all of the data points triangulated here, we have $16 million total of synergies, CAD synergies, about $13 million of that are cost synergies that Eric was touching on. So that's the SG&A reduction as well as timberland management. And then the $3 million would be roughly the interest savings here all in, and that gets you to the $16 million total CAD synergies.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#24

Okay. Great. And I'm sorry, maybe I misheard, but had Eric mentioned a $42 million annual CAD number and maybe the other, I guess, was an EBITDDA number. How does that triangulate with the $55 million number?

Jerry Richards

executive
#25

Yes. So if I understand your question, Mark. So we -- obviously, there's some CapEx to reforest that deduct also there's interest expense. And so there's some moving parts. But I think about it, EBITDDA is $55 million on average for the first 5 years. CAD $42 million, maybe $44 million somewhere in that range on average for the first 5 years. And if you want to go through the details, I'd be happy to walk through that with you after the call.

Mark Weintraub

analyst
#26

Sure. I appreciate that. It was the EBITDDA and CAD. Got it.

Jerry Richards

executive
#27

Yes. Yes.

Operator

operator
#28

Your next question comes from the line of Kurt Yinger from D.A. Davidson.

Kurt Yinger

analyst
#29

Just wanted to start out on the decision to fund the deal with stock. I mean it looks like from a liquidity perspective, you would have been able to fund that equity portion with cash. Maybe you could just talk about the thought process around that decision.

Eric Cremers

executive
#30

Well, we probably could have found a way, Kurt, to finance it with stock, but the CatchMark shareholders, number one, they want to participate in the upside from this merger. Number two, it's great when you can use equity to finance a deal. It strengthens the balance sheet going forward. We've still got the best balance sheet in the industry that leaves us with a lot of dry powder to do more interesting things. And it was just the right capital allocation decision.

Jerry Richards

executive
#31

Yes. I'll jump in, Kurt and just add a couple of comments as well. Certainly, we have -- cash continues to build. I mean we're at $471 million on the balance sheet at the end of the last quarter, and no surprise with where lumber prices have been that cash has continued to accumulate. I mean, certainly, one of the things we thought about are other opportunities to use that cash, and we have a line of sight or we have expectation that there's some really interesting other opportunities, which we look forward to down the road to share more about those.

Kurt Yinger

analyst
#32

Okay. All right. That's helpful.

Eric Cremers

executive
#33

And Kurt, we also -- we -- Kurt, before we move on, just one last thing. We get asked questions all the time about why aren't you guys buying back stock? And the way we answer the question is we're opportunistic share repurchasers. We wait for there to be a dislocation in our stock and then that's when we're going to step in and buy it. And when you have that approach, you need to make sure you've got flexibility with your balance sheet to be able to step in and do that. So we've got who knows $100 million, maybe more on our balance sheet that's kind of set aside looking for an opportunity. I don't want the stock to go down, obviously. But if it does go down, we've got the firepower to step in and do something meaningful.

Kurt Yinger

analyst
#34

Right. Okay. That makes sense. And then just on, I guess, the diversification of your Southern Timberlands footprint with CatchMark. I mean, can you just talk a little bit about the long-term benefits or opportunities around that? I mean previously, right, you guys were heavily concentrated in Arkansas. It looks like you'll have a couple of states and a new -- a couple of new geographies. How do you think about the benefits of that longer-term?

Eric Cremers

executive
#35

Well, it was an interesting opportunity, a very unique opportunity for us to move eastward from where we were over in Arkansas, Alabama and Mississippi. And we'd hear about deals all the time that we're over in the Atlantic Seaboard area, and we could -- they're all typically pretty small. We have no operational horsepower over in those markets, as you know. So we could never figure out a way to grow the company over into those areas. Well, CatchMark provided us with that opportunity. Number one, it's scale. It's a company with 350,000 acres. So it's not a small bolt-on deal. We could never justify doing a small bolt-on deal that far from where our human resources were located. It's also phenomenal timberland. When you step back and you look at it, their average site index is [ 75 ]. That compares to [ 66 ] for us in Arkansas. And [ 66 ] is a good strong number, of course, but [ 75 ] is off the charts strong. They've got 20% of their plantations are currently mature, which means great stocking levels and solid cash flow for the next 8 to 10 years. They operate in some of the best markets in the U.S. South. If you look at -- we've got a pricing chart in our investor materials. And if you look at the pulpwood prices that they get over $15 a ton, we're getting $4 or $5 a ton over in Arkansas. So just phenomenal, phenomenal pricing. So in addition to picking up some great assets and their people going forward, just in -- just so many different ways, it was a synergistic combination. I really couldn't be happier.

Kurt Yinger

analyst
#36

Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then just my last one. As part of the Deltic merger, there were quite a bit of synergy and value capture opportunities kind of above and beyond those originally outlined. Obviously, the earliest of days here, but as you look at CatchMark and the combined business, are there any areas where you think there could be kind of upside to what you've laid out? Or I guess, areas where you weren't necessarily confident putting in the synergy numbers, but you think there is potential for further upside down the road?

Eric Cremers

executive
#37

Yes. I would say potentially on the real estate side, if you look at our history of doing large real estate deals over in Arkansas, we've done a number of them, whether they're conservation deals around Lake Maumelle or the solar power deal that we just got done completing here in the first quarter. We've got a history of putting up big real estate transactions at incredible prices. So that might be one area where we might dig a little deeper as we get into the real estate side of CatchMark. We really didn't put in any synergies for real estate here. Frankly, we didn't for Deltic either, and we were very pleasantly surprised as Deltic unfolded. And yes, you're correct. We did we did outpace our synergy targets with Deltic. I would say that our synergies here, they're more predictable than they were with Deltic. And I'd say there's probably less upside than there was with Deltic, but that doesn't mean that we can't exceed our pro forma. And my confidence level is far greater here with these CatchMark synergies than the synergies that we had identified with Deltic, for example. So there's puts and takes. There may be less upside here, but there's more certainty here, too.

Operator

operator
#38

Your next question comes from the line of Ketan Mamtora from BMO Capital Markets.

Ketan Mamtora

analyst
#39

Congrats on the transaction. First question, I was just curious, within the $55 million EBITDDA number, have you all contemplated any price increases, particularly on Southern Timber? Or is that based on current price levels?

Eric Cremers

executive
#40

No, Ketan, in our pro forma, we've got very modest price increases going forward. There's been a huge bounce here over the last year or so, and we modeled only very modest increases going forward. So not much from pricing.

Ketan Mamtora

analyst
#41

Got it. Okay. And then Eric, can you touch a little more on sort of the real estate opportunity as you see -- you talked about kind of synergy. But just in terms of kind of ability with sort of the real interest that we've seen over the last 12 to 18 months, what kind of opportunity there is on the real estate side?

Eric Cremers

executive
#42

Well, I think historically, like I just got done mentioning, we've got a track record of doing large transactions, real estate transactions. That solar deal we did in the first quarter was a great one. And if you look at the conservation deals that we've done over the years, we have the ability -- our real estate team has the ability to find and bring to fruition these larger higher-priced transactions. So I think I'll ask Brian to land better than us, but...

Brian Davis

executive
#43

Yes, certainly. Thanks, Eric. This is Brian. So from our standpoint, you take a look at Georgia and South Carolina, you have a strong influx associated with population growth in these marketplaces. As a result of that, with the additional scale that Potlatch brings us is an opportunity to really unlock value that we didn't have before. But the demand fundamentals are very, very strong from -- even from a reverse inquiry standpoint. And so the combination of the 2 companies really gives us the opportunity to leverage that aspect to really take on the larger types of transactions that Eric is talking about. As CatchMark on a stand-alone company, we're really restricted by -- from a kind of internal governors of doing 2% to 2.5% of our fee acreage on a per year basis to maintain that 1.6 million to 1.8 million tons per year and what we were looking at. So by the additional scale allows us, given the types of numbers that we're seeing, especially on reverse inquiry to really unlock that real estate value.

Ketan Mamtora

analyst
#44

Got it. That's helpful. And then just one last question from my side. Does this kind of merger open up more opportunity on the lumber side on the [indiscernible] side with the markets that you're getting in?

Eric Cremers

executive
#45

Absolutely, Ketan. We would never go acquire, I shouldn't say never, but we'd be hard-pressed to go acquire a sawmill that wasn't near an existing operating area for us. We love the integrated nature of our business today. There's lots of value in having an integrated model as in both timberlands and converting. We'd be really hard-pressed to pick up a sawmill in Georgia, South Carolina over that area. But now with CatchMark, with our timberlands in the area, we absolutely would pursue a sawmill that's in those operating areas. We love wood products.

Ketan Mamtora

analyst
#46

Understood. That's very helpful. Good luck with the integration.

Operator

operator
#47

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of John Babcock from Bank of America.

John Babcock

analyst
#48

I guess just to start out, I was wondering if you could talk about whether or not there's any sort of a step-up associated with this transaction?

Jerry Richards

executive
#49

Yes, John, I presume you're talking about purchase accounting. So there absolutely a step-up. So CatchMark is carrying their timberlands, which is the primary asset at historical cost, and we'll go through a process just like we did with Deltic, where we take the purchase price at the time the merger closes, and we'll spread that across the assets. But I would expect most of that value will be ascribed to the timberlands as part of that purchase accounting process.

John Babcock

analyst
#50

Okay. Is there -- can you provide an initial estimate? Or is it too early to tell at this point?

Jerry Richards

executive
#51

Yes. I mean when you look at the enterprise value here of $919 million based on the close price on Friday, I would say probably somewhere in the ZIP code of maybe $900 million of that gets allocated to timberlands. And again, that's very preliminary. We haven't gone through a formal analysis at this point.

John Babcock

analyst
#52

Okay. And then next question, I was just wondering how are you thinking about opportunities associated with the CatchMark business from carbon sequestration and also the non-timber side?

Eric Cremers

executive
#53

Well, so on the carbon sequestration side, I would imagine CatchMark just like us. We've probably looked at kind of these carbon pricing opportunities that are out there and they're just relatively small compared to what the timber is worth in a growing state, harvested and sold to a pulp mill or a sawmill. Given that their markets are stronger than our markets, over in Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, if we couldn't make it work over there, I don't think CatchMark is going to be able to make it work in their areas either. Now I will say that from these other markets that are starting to open up like solar energy, they've got a number of deals that are in the hopper just like we do, and we will be working closely with the CatchMark team to get those across the goal line. That's where the real opportunity is right now.

John Babcock

analyst
#54

Got you. And how similar are the silviculture practices between the 2? How much opportunity is there on that front to leverage the knowledge that one firm has that might -- maybe the other side doesn't, anything to add there? Or...

Eric Cremers

executive
#55

Well, CatchMark outsourced a lot of their timber management, which made sense when you're a smaller company, you simply couldn't afford all of the overhead. But combining with us we have that expertise in-house. We'll probably -- we will implement our silviculture practices. We'll probably have a more aggressive fitting regime that they've had, which is going to give us a higher mix of sawlogs. We might use a higher mix of improved seedlings and they've been using. They're a little bit more expensive but down the road, it tends to pay benefits. And all told, they were using really good consultants to manage their timberland. They're reputable firms for sure. But we'll still be able to I don't know, fine create $3 million, $4 million a year of cost savings by bringing that work in-house. But there will be some modest changes to their silviculture plans.

John Babcock

analyst
#56

And I assume that $3 million to $4 million is included within the synergy target?

Eric Cremers

executive
#57

Yes. Yes, that's correct. Yes.

Operator

operator
#58

At this time, I'm showing there are no more questions. I'll now turn the call back over to Jerry Richards.

Jerry Richards

executive
#59

Thank you, Rob. And thank you, everyone else, again, for joining the call on such short notice. We are very excited about this combination, and we will provide updates as the work progresses.

Operator

operator
#60

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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