Cboe Global Markets, Inc. (CBOE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 23, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Mandy Xu
executive[Audio Gap] S&P 500 Variance Futures slated to begin trading in September -- September 23rd of this year, just in time for the election, which is shaping up to be another exciting one. To talk about our new product, we have with us today John Hiatt from our CBOE Lab team. That's the team behind basically all the new products that's coming out, the brains behind the operation I'd like to say. But in addition to John, who's going to give an overview of the product, we're really also excited to bring you kind of the -- a more complete perspective of the whole ecosystem that's going to be trading and also supporting this product from a liquidity standpoint. So with me today also, we have Alexis Lefebvre, who is the CIO, Co-Founder and Portfolio Manager at Melqart Asset Management, a U.K.-based hedge fund. We have Nick Volbi, who is the Head of Equity Derivatives Index Trading at Morgan Stanley as well as Tom Seewald, COO at Akuna Capital, who's going to be one of the market makers supporting this product. So very excited to have everyone here and as a kind of a matter of housekeeping we're going to go through some prepared content, prepared moderated discussion. There will definitely be time for Q&A. We're very excited for Q&A. [Operator Instructions] And in terms of timing, this will be a 30-minute webinar, so 20 minutes roughly of prepared content and 10 minutes of Q&A. So without further ado, I'm going to turn it over to John. John, could you walk us through kind of just, again, overview given the time constraints of this new product?
John Hiatt
executiveSure. Thanks, Mandy. Good morning, everyone. So as Mandy mentioned, subject to regulatory review on September 23rd of this year, we plan to launch cash-settled futures on the realized variance of the S&P 500. If you see on the first slide here, you'll see a formula for the final settlement value of the contract labeled [indiscernible]. And basically, what we're settling to is the annualized sum of the squared returns of the S&P -- daily returns of the S&P 500. The contract is going to trade in variance units and be quoted in terms of the variance of the S&P 500. So price of 400 would mean an implied volatility of 20 on the first day that the contract is listed. The contract size, as I mentioned, is one variance unit, and it trades in variance units. So it will clear immediately. It was just somewhat different than our previous version of variance futures that we launched in 2012 and traded from 2012 to 2022. If you see on the upper right of the first slide that we have here, these are the contract months that are going to be launched on September 23rd. So basically, we'll have the first 6 months of contracts and then a contract expiring in June of 2025 and December of 2025. Each of the contracts will begin accruing realized variance on the date that it's listed with the very first return or very first price observation that is the close at the -- on the day that the contract is listed. And then you'll just sum the close-to-close returns for all of the days, except for the final day. The final price observation will be the opening settlement value of the S&P 500 on it, the contract expiration date. That's the same value that we use to settle SPX options on that date. So you'll have a string of returns that you'll square to find the final settlement value, which are closing returns -- based on closing returns. And then the final return will be based on the previous night's close and then on the final settlement value. So if you look at that contract table, if we start on September 23rd, that first contract that expires on October 18th will settle to approximately 1 month of realized variance. The November will settle the two months and so on through the March contract, which will be 6 months of realized variance. The June and the December contracts are a little bit more, the June contract will sum 9 month realized variance and the December just over a year. The only other thing that I'd point out on the first slide is the idea of market disruption dates. So if it's the case that you had something like the National Day of Mourning for deceased President, and that happens during any of these contracts, the way the contract functions is that, that date will be considered as 0 variance day. So we're not accruing any variance on a disruption event. So the number of returns required to compute the final settlement is established at the start of the contract, it really doesn't change when a market disruption event occurs. Mandy, you can go on the second slide. So you have the final settlement is just the sum of the squared returns of the S&P 500. Daily settlement values for the contract are going to be a combination of the realized variance that's accrued to the date that you're on plus what's implied for the remainder of the contract. That's pretty much how the contract will trade throughout the trading day as well. There's one other thing to note about it is that on the day that you enter a trade in the contract, you have exposure to the S&P 500 index level at the time that you make that trade. So if you're thinking about the price of the contract intraday as you're trading it, it would be a combination of three terms, the accrued realized variance to the previous night's close. And then the variance of that close -- previous nights close to when you're trading the contract, so you have exposure to the S&P 500, and then you have another term that's the implied variance from the remainder of the contract. You could advance the slide again, Mandy. As I noted, we're going to be trading in variance units. So you can think of the vega exposure of one variance unit according to the formula that you see on this page. And it's just 2x the implied volatility of the contract and then you're multiplying it by how much of the contract is remaining or the distance or days to expiration basically. If you were thinking that you wanted, say, 100,000 vega in exposure, you would just divide 100,000 vega by the term that you see there to figure out how many contracts you needed to trade. So if I were saying that it's the first day of trading, and we were quoting an implied volatility of 20, which would be 400 on the variance futures price, you would divide 100,000 vega by 40 to come up with your number of variance units, and you would get about 2,500 contracts that you would need to trade. You can advance the slide again, Mandy. So when the contract is live and we begin trading, this site isn't up yet. We go -- we have a certification test before we launch the contract that starts next Monday, and there'll be a link on our Resource Hub, where you can see this variance calculator. And basically, what this is going to do is allow you to convert the futures price that you'll see in the two-sided market while you're trading the contract into an implied volatility in the first box here. And then you can also go back from an implied volatility to what the futures price would be or you could convert your vega notional that you want to trade into an order size or a number of variance contracts that you need to do. Another thing that's nice about the variance calculator is that if you look near the contract expiration, the drop-down for which contract you're trading, you can download the contract schedule which will give you what's the accrued variance to date, how many days of realized variance are you actually going to settle to, how far through the contract you are, so that you can do all of the conversions between Vol and Vega and the number of futures and futures price. You could advance the slide. The next slide is just the Resource Hub that we have up today. You could link to the site. As I mentioned, if you look under the Resources tab on there, you'll see the variance calculator once we get into cert next week. You can see the contract specs that we filed to trade the contract. And any questions, including what you'll see on Cboe data feeds for the contract in terms of accrued variance and the number of days of accrued variance that will be settling to the contract.
Mandy Xu
executiveGreat. Thanks, John. I'm going to leave this slide up for a little bit longer, so that people want to copy down the link. The slide deck itself will also be available after the webinar. But maybe another question to you, John. And you mentioned this is not our first time launching variance future. So just to kind of -- I wanted to know what's been the customer feedback this time around? And what's different about this launch versus prior iterations that make you more confident that it will be successful?
John Hiatt
executiveSure. So this is actually the third time that we've tried to launch a future that settles to the realized variance of the S&P 500. The original contract we did was back in 2004. And when we did that, every contract settled to 3 months of realized variance of the S&P 500 and the contract expirations tied to the March quarterly cycle. It was quoted in variance -- number of variance futures, variance units and a variance price as well. Then back in 2012, some of the feedback that we had gotten on that contract was it was difficult to go from an implied volatility, and a vega notional exposure, which is typically how the contract is traded in the over-the-counter market to what we were quoting variance futures and variance futures price. And so our second version of the contract, we actually did some development work so we could allow the contract to trade in terms of a spot starting implied volatility and a vega notional exposure, that required many of the market participants that would trade and clear the product to do development work themselves in order to trade it because we would pend a trade until the end of the trading day so that we could observe that day's S&P 500 closing price so that we can convert from variance futures price to number of contracts into -- we convert the implied vol into a number a variance futures price and the vega notional into a number of contracts. So this time around, I think what's really different and how the market has changed is there's been some changes to uncleared margin rules that have affected the viability of trading variance in the over-the-counter market. So there are people who are looking for an exchange solution this time. And it's the case that most of the people that have contacted us and wanted to trade variance in a listed environment, would prefer to trade it the way that we have it today in variance futures prices and a number of variance units simply because then you don't have to do the development work that was present in the second contract.
Mandy Xu
executiveGot it. Super helpful. Okay. So I'm going to now turn the conversation or open up the conversation to our other panelists and Alexis, I'm going to go to you first. Can you just talk to us about how -- what instruments are you currently using to trade vol and what's your kind of been your experience trading, in particular, variance over the past couple of years, maybe pre versus post pandemic?
Alexis Lefebvre
attendeeSure. So we actually trade vol through variance swaps, which are OTC and listed options, S&P and E-mini and VIX options as well. So for us, internally, all of this is tied up together in our VIX system and everything else. And we kind of look at it as a whole. However, in reality, variance swap is OTC and for a lot of kind of systems and institution, VIX is actually a different asset than S&P. So in terms of risk aggregation and margining and all this stuff, it's not really tied up together. So variance swap actually traded OTC causes a certain amount of issues. So the first one is that we need VIX dash for every third party that we trade with. And also, we will have VIX in listed format and variance swap and instruments format which might sit at different places. So first is VIX dash, second issue is instruments at different places. The second issue I think for us has been valuation. So at the moment, you can either use market or you can use counter-party marks, but I can trade the same variance swap with 2 people and have 2 different marks. So in terms of valuation, it's not a deal and you can rely on market, but that causes other issues. And I think the last thing that I think will be beneficial in having this kind of listed product is the actors. I think banks have been in and out of the market depending on appetite, especially with issues that have been caused by previous kind of fund defaults where The IA was very big, and that reduces a lot of capacity to trade. Now with a listed contract, we will have access to not only banks, but kind of professional market makers and possibly a wider universe than that going forward. So it's liquidity, it's kind of counterparty sets and really valuation that would change for us.
Mandy Xu
executiveGreat. I think you already touched upon a lot of the points that I want to ask on the second question. So maybe just a recap, I was going to ask you what's most enticing about this product. But I think you talked a little bit about the liquidity and the transparency. Maybe just what's top of mind in terms of what appeals to you the most about this upcoming launch?
Alexis Lefebvre
attendeeYes. And I think there's also going to be more granularity down the line. I think if you take the template of what VIX has been, it started with a few contracts. And then now we're at the point where there's contracts every day and there's a possibility of like VIX intraday. So I think at this point, if the product takes off and it all works well, we'll be able to trade variance, but also forward variance. So we'll be able to trade each day completely individually so that actually really pushes our ability to trade event risk without having to spread it. So if you look at 6 months to 12 months down the line, if successful is actually a lot more possibilities for us to be more nimble.
Mandy Xu
executiveGot it. Very helpful. Okay. Next, I want to turn it over to Nick, who's going to be one of the sell-side trading desks to hopefully active with this product once we launch. So Nick, can you just give us an overview maybe of kind of which client segments are currently active in trading variance? And just how that market has changed again, now versus, say, pre-COVID?
Nicklas Volbi
attendeeSure. I'd say it's a very wide client segment, ranging from hedge funds to asset managers to pension funds and insurance companies. I'm definitely excited about the prospect of being able to provide block pricing on these variance futures. . I think anybody who traffics in the VIX futures and VIX options market should be thinking about the benefits of being able to express directional use and volatility with direct exposure realized vol in a listed instrument. The potential user base of the product is wide. I do expect initial interest to come from the existing OTC variance swap market participants. Looking for lower margin and collateral alternatives to OTC variant swaps. And as Alex has mentioned, some of the transparency that you get from the listed market that sometimes you don't get with OTC with people having different valuations. I think with the liquidity and volumes in the S&P listed options market and the VIX futures market and the VIX options market, S&P variance futures are an obvious missing link in the listed S&P vol complex given the arbitrage relationships that exist amongst these. So the product is going to naturally fit into the complex. And I think it's not only going to satisfy existing demand, but it's also going to allow for the development and growth of other products that can utilize listed variance futures as a vehicle for expressing directional views unrealized volatility without the path dependency of option-based expressions. In terms of what's changed now versus pre-COVID, it's definitely -- I think it's interesting that there's been huge growth in the listed options market, especially in the S&P vol complex. But we've actually seen probably the OTC variant swap market, which had been roughly active for 2 decades. It's actually probably a small as it's been over the last 2 decades as a result of the increased margin and collateral requirements. So I think this listed alternative comes at a really appropriate time.
Mandy Xu
executiveGreat. And then maybe just a follow-up, who kind of -- who would you -- who do you see as being kind of the biggest beneficiaries of having a listed product? Because you mentioned existing vol players kind of thinking the day 1 users, but any other kind of beneficiaries that you see from this product?
Nicklas Volbi
attendeeYes. I mean, I think certainly, the vol arb community on the hedge fund side, which has grown in size is going to be the most active participant and I think for them as being really active in turnover. This is going to be a very beneficial product, especially with the cross-margin benefits that you'll get from the -- across the rest of the listed S&P vol complex. So anybody who's trafficking in that complex and really trafficking with the bend towards thinking about the world from an implied volatility perspective. And that universe has certainly grown I think, is going to be an actual beneficiary of this. And there's certainly been a gravitation over the last 15 years, I would say, from moving away from OTC products and toward listed products, and we've seen this happen in a variety of different instruments and the success has definitely been pretty substantial.
Mandy Xu
executiveOkay. Tom, I'm going to turn over to you now. I know you were very active trading the prior version of variance futures that we listed way back. So I guess my question to you is what are you kind of looking forward to this time kind of based on your prior experience? What's different this time in your view that would make it a successful product?
Tom Seewald
attendeeSo I think the -- I was involved in, I guess, what John Hiatt referred to as the second iteration of this about a decade ago. And at that time, as John mentioned, the focus was really on mimicking what was already trading over the counter to make it as easy as possible for those really professional users, those sell-side desks to migrate over to a listed product. What that did was introduce a bunch of operational complexity that really cut out a lot of people who might otherwise have wanted to use the product. They weren't familiar with the OTC conventions, required a lot of development work. It was not easy for clearing firms to support these. And as such, the momentum when we relaunched the product in 2012 died out pretty quickly. I think this time around having a much simpler back office, middle office clearing equation of being able to print the trade at the time that you trade it, not having to restate it, is going to be pretty substantial. It means it can trade like any other future. Also excited that it is designed to be accessible to anyone, not just vol arb funds, not just to big buy-side or sell-side desk. But the variance units on which you can trade are relatively small and make it sort of inherently accessible to retail. You pointed out the variance futures calculator on the variance hub, which will -- like I said, be live at some point soon. It'd be very easy for anyone to go and figure out what they want to trade and execute right away. So operationally, I think a lot of the hurdles that prevented success when I was involved with this a decade ago, have really cleared up and should really enable this product to, as I say, a third time should be the charm here.
Mandy Xu
executiveGreat. Yes. And then I can tell you that anecdotally that definitely been some of the feedback that we've been getting from funds, for example, like CTAs and others who traditionally have not been able to access this market in the OTC format that now can with the futures contract. They're very excited to get involved as well. My last question would be for you, Tom, kind of what opportunities does this give market makers who are currently not active in the OTC market for variance?
Tom Seewald
attendeeYes, that's a great question. I think the sort of distribution of liquidity provision over the last 15 years has really shifted away from really only being available from big banks, big institutions to be more diversified to principal trading firms and such. And I think that the -- if you look at who some of the biggest options market makers are in both the SPX complex, the VIX complex, these days are large proprietary or principal trading firms who may not have access to the same range of ISDA's that large banks do. And the result is that the full depth of liquidity provision is not available to the user of an OTC variance product. . I think what you'll find here is that, of course, market makers and there are dozens of active market makers in the SPX complex, who could easily provide liquidity here. But you'll also find this natural liquidity provision as well as smaller participants are able to access a central limit order book for these to post orders not even two-sided quotes, but just to provide bits of liquidity here and there which really add up, as we know. So I think market makers are -- professional market makers, principal trading firms are much more sophisticated than they were a decade ago. And I think it makes sense to have the largest liquidity providers in options also be able to provide that liquidity in listed futures as well.
Mandy Xu
executiveGreat. Okay. So I'm seeing a ton of questions coming through. And the first question I want to throw to you, Alexis, I know you have a hard cutoff at 9. The question is from a buy-side perspective, what are some examples of applications or use cases that are available with variance swaps or variance futures that are not available via VIX futures and VIX option?
Alexis Lefebvre
attendeeI think as you pointed out, the big difference is realized for one thing. And the second thing is that vol is linear and variance is complex. So if you really want to trade that complex payoff and especially for sell strategies, you need to have one, to realize; and two, really the convexity payout. So it kind of allows you to have one the gamma; and two, the convexity. If you think about it, one of the structures that is popular in other asset classes like VIX, which is to trade pure convexity, i.e., variance swap versus vol swap. Now you can kind of trade a VIX future versus variance swap future, and that will give you a vega neutral and that will give you that convexity. So that is available in OTC format, but it's not really available. You can't trade the convex products in a listed manner. So even in QIS product that covers a lot of the variance, like some short vol products, et cetera, variance is always a replication. So that's hundreds and hundreds of option contracts and that makes it pretty difficult in terms of operationally and to kind of hold any books versus one contract that's going to do exactly the same thing, and includes the basis at the end of the day. So really, the difference is going to be gamma and convexity.
Mandy Xu
executiveA couple of questions I'm going to combine into one for John and asking about kind of future iterations or how those products may evolve. So should we expect to see options on these futures at some point? Will there be longer-dated maturities listed? And then another one is, is there any attention to launch a Russell 2000 variance future?
John Hiatt
executiveSure. I think all three of them kind of depend on how well we do with the initial listing that we have. If we see good volumes in it, of course, we'll increase the expirations. We have the ability per our rules to match all of the expirations that we have for SPX options today. . So the December leaps go out 5 years so you can manage a contract that would list and settle the 5 years of realized variance of the S&P 500, options on variance are certainly something that would be contemplated assuming that we have very good quoting, and a lot of volume in the variance futures themselves, and extending it to other index providers that are partners of Cboe, of course, we trade Russell VIX options today -- or Russell options today. So you could expect that we would try and trade a future on Russell variance as well.
Mandy Xu
executiveGreat. One question, and I'm going to maybe throw this to Nick first. Is it expected that the availability of these listed variance futures will dampen appetite for traditional OTC variant swaps? And what would the impact be on businesses that structure both?
Nicklas Volbi
attendeeYes, I think that remains to be seen. I think in my experience, when you have listed alternatives, you continue to have market participants that look for OTC alternatives because there's definitely use cases for want to do OTC trades. There's a benefit of the -- the anonymity aspect and not being able for people to see large trade going through in the market. And if you're trying to do outsized trades, I think there will continue to be clients that will gravitate toward OTC for those types of situations, but there's clear benefits as well for people that are trafficking in standard size, higher turnover for using listed. So I think the two can coexist and they can probably be mutually beneficial to both ecosystems to have both a healthy listed market as well as an OTC market. And we've seen that in S&P listed options as well as every other listed options products. So I think the same will be likely true for variance swaps as well.
Mandy Xu
executiveYes. And I would agree, and that's certainly our hope, too, is that this kind of helps grow the pie and bringing more players and more investor type into this product -- into the space, right? So it's not just taking share away from the OTC, but actually brings more liquidity providers, bring more end users, different fund types, people who are not currently able to access the OTC market, who want to trade vol, I think there is a large number of those end users. So that's what we're excited about. I think we're running pretty much on time, but maybe one last question because I do see it pop up quite a bit. And it is -- I don't know how quickly it can be answered. But for John, what are the cross margining arrangement, our benefits, especially against VIX futures. I got a couple of questions around the cross margining benefit.
John Hiatt
executiveSure. So it's the case that at least for clearing members at OCC, there would be gross margin of our portfolio margin available between VIX futures and options, SPX options and variance futures. There's a cross-margin agreement between OCC and the CME for SPX options and E-mini futures. VIX and variance futures aren't part of that agreement yet. I can't really speak to how an FCM will margin variance in VIX with SPX, but it's certainly the case for clearing members that it's available at OCC.
Mandy Xu
executiveGreat. Okay. So in the interest of time, I have to cut it off here, but thanks for everyone for dialing in. As John mentioned we have a Resource Hub online already with contract specs, user guide for the calculator and the calculator should be live by next week, hopefully. And then if you're interested in trading and being active in this product day 1, please reach out to your liquidity providers, trading desk as well as reach out to us if we can be of any assistance. And thanks again to all of our speakers, really appreciate your time, and I'll see you guys for next month webinar.
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