Ceigall India Limited (CEIGALL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 10, 2026

NSEI IN Industrials Construction and Engineering earnings 29 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Ceigall India Limited Q1 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Smith Patel from Adfactors PR. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#2

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Q1 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call of Ceigall India Limited. Today, we have with us Mr. Ramneek Sehgal, Chairperson and Managing Director; Mr. Kapil Aggarwal, CFO; and Mr. Saravanan, Full Time Director. Before I hand over to opening comments, let me mention a cautionary statement that this conference may include forward-looking statements about the company, which are based on beliefs, opinions and expectations of the company as on the date of this call. These statements are not a guarantee of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. We will begin the call with the opening remarks from the management, after which we will have forum open for a Q&A session. I now hand over the conference to Mr. Ramneek Sehgal for his opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#3

Hi. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Ceigall India's Quarter 1 financial year earnings conference call. I hope all of you are doing well. Joining on today's call is Mr. Kapil Aggarwal, our CFO; Mr. A. Saravanan, our Whole Time Director, along with our Investor Relations team. Our financial results, investor presentation, press release have already been shared with the stock exchanges and are also available on our website. I hope all of you have had an opportunity to review them. the first quarter of financial year '27 may be another encouraging quarter for Ceigall. For the last few quarters, we have spoken about the strategy of building a diversified platform. We're continuing to strengthen our leadership in transportation, infrastructure, renewable energy, T&D sector. I'm happy to share that we have made a good progress on those priorities during the quarter, while continue to deliver healthy operational performance. or the most important development during the quarter was a successful monetization of the first hybrid an energy model or HAM asset through a divestment of Malodwari project. This is an important milestone for the company. as it validates the capital recycling strategy that we have been working towards over the last few years, our approach is very clear. We want to execute quality assets create value through efficient project delivery, monetize mature assets at the right stage, redeploy the capital into new opportunities. We believe this disciplined approach will support future growth while maintaining a strong balance sheet and improving overall capital efficiencies. Since our IPO, we have steadily diversified into the niche sector that address countries' evolving energy requirements while continuing to maintain steady growth in highway sector. We have expanded our presence in renewable needy space across solar, solar plus beds as well as transmission distribution. The diversification reflects our strategy of leveraging our strong execution capabilities to build a presence in high-growth sectors, create sustainability long-term value, during the quarter, we have signed a PPA for a solar bed at Marina, emerges L1 for 1 of the stand-alone battery projects. These developments further strengthen our confidence in the renewable energy platform that we have been building over the last year. Our execution momentum also remained healthy during the quarter. We have signed the concession agreement of [indiscernible] Subsequent to the quarter end, we received the quantitates of BRK 11, V12, Indore Greentree a project, enabling commencement of the execution. We also merged as L1 bidder in a joint venture on a highway project in Arunachal, these developments provide additional execution visibility further strengthen our product pipeline. Another aspect that gives us confidence in the continued evolution of our order book Today, our order book is not only robust in size but also much more diversified than it was a few years ago. In addition to highway and express ways, it's now include renewable energy, transmission and distribution industries infrastructure and other specialized institutional projects. The diversification allows us to participate in multiple growth opportunities while leasing dependent on a single segment of the infrastructure sector. Looking ahead, we continue to remain optimistic about the opportunities in renewable transportation and distribution sector, along with the interesting infrastructure projects. The government continued focus on energy, transmission distribution transportation, urban infrastructure, together with the strong execution capacities, diversified order book and disciplined approach towards a capital allocation gives us confidence in our ability to deliver sustainable growth over the long term. Before I conclude, I would like to thank our clients, business partners, lenders, shareholders, most importantly, our employees for their continuous trust and the spot. Their commitment has been instrumental in helping us gain these milestones. With that, I would now like to hand over the call to our CFO, Mr. Kapil Aggarwal, who will take you through the financial performance of the quarter in that video. Thank you. Over to you, Kapil.

Kapil Agarwal

executive
#4

Thank you, Ramneek, sir. The more and more you are joining us today. It is a pleasure to discuss our financial performance for the first quarter of FY '27. The first quarter is generally a seasonal softer quarter for the construction industry due to the onset of the monsoon in several parts of the country. Despite this, we delivered a healthy operation and financial performance, reflecting our disciplined execution capability and continued focus on operational efficiency. On a stand-alone basis, revenue from operations for Q1 FY '26 stood at INR 901 crores as against INR 818 crore in Q1 FY '26, registering a 10.2% year-on-year growth. Stand-alone EBITDA for the quarter stood at INR 121 crores as against [ INR 94 crores ] in the corresponding quarter of the previous year, with EBITDA margin improving to 13.4% from 11.4% in Q1 FY '26. Stand-alone profit after tax for Q1 FY '27 stood at INR 75 crores compared to INR 56 crores in the corresponding quarter last year resulting in a PAT margin of 8.4% as against 6.8% in Q1 FY '26. Moving to our consolidated financial performance. Revenue from operations for Q1 FY '27 stood at INR 970 crores as against INR 838 crores in the corresponding quarter of this year, registering a 15.7% growth in a year. On the operations side, our application engine continues to remain strong with 39 ongoing projects across multiple infrastructure segments, providing healthy execution visibility over the coming years. As on 30th June 2026, our order books stood at INR 18,568 crores providing strong multiple year revenue visibility. Today, our order book spans at 19 EPC projects and HAM projects, 1 DB4 project and 9 tariff rates, renewal and transmission projects. reflecting our continued diversification during rolls and highways into sectors such as renewable energy, transmission and distribution, metro rail and industrial infrastructure. I conclude my remarks and would like I would request the motor to open the profusion and answer session. Thank you, everyone.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from the line of Vaibhav Shah with JM Financial.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#6

Yes. sir, first on solid projects. So we saw in Northern Iberia bypass, the execution fell significantly in Q1 to around INR 42 odd crores. Any particular reason for that?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#7

Can you repeat your question, please?

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#8

In Northern Ayodhya bypass, the execution has fallen in Q1 to almost INR 42-odd crores. So any particular reason, any issues we are facing or something else on?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#9

No, no. I mean, it is growing problem. There's nothing. Now from last 12 months has been in Otherwise, progress is steady. We've been achieving all our milestones before time. It's just sometimes you don't achieve the milestone payment can only be made only on the milestone is achieved.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#10

Okay. Sir, what kind of execution are you facing from VRP 11 and 12 in FY '27?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#11

We are targeting, we should at least do 20% to 25% of both the projects.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#12

Okay. And same for Southern Ludhiana and Ayodhya?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#13

So Southern Ayodhya, yes, it is there. On Ludhiana, the land is only 62% available with us. So that is a challenge. Otherwise, it is doable.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#14

So for Ludhiana, we can do 25%, 30% in this year?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#15

No, Ludhiana you should take at least 15% this year.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#16

Okay, 15% land issue?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#17

Yes.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#18

Okay. And sir, any update on the Riva solar project? When do we expect to start? When will people...

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#19

So PPA signed, they have to provide us a transmission. So there were 3 things required for this project. One is PP, 1 is land and 1 is transmission. So they have projected the PPA, land is there. Third is the transmission line. I think we have already taken out the tenders for Tishonne. -- and we are expecting that to happen soon. Once that is there, we are ready to start. It's an easy project, why because you have to build everything in 1 location. Number two, for PM Kusum we've already started projects in Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh, and those projects are progressing very well.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#20

Okay. And sir, lastly, on equity requirement, what investments are we assuming in for HAM and Solar for FY '27 and FY '28?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#21

So I'll give you a little brief. So at the time of our IPO, the equity we have put was INR 253 crores -- as on date, it INR 692 crores, where we have put INR 439 crores more. And this year, our balance equity commitment is INR 859 crores. And FY '28 is INR 744 crores.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#22

So we will be putting INR 859 crores in FY '27.

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#23

Yes.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#24

On the HAM and solar breakup.

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#25

INR 310 is solar and -- 296 INR 550 is highway.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#26

And for FY' 28?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#27

INR 300 crores for solar tentatively, [ 296. ] INR 444 crore -- yes.

Operator

operator
#28

[Operator Instructions] The next questions comes from the line of Krish with Anand Rathi Group. I'm sorry to interrupt, Kris you're not audible. Could you please use your phone on the handset mode in case on hand free.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#29

So how much oil you expect to be awarded within this year and what...

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#30

Sorry, your voice is not clear.

Operator

operator
#31

The line for the participant has dropped. We move to the next participant. That is [ Mahesh Patel with ICICI Securities. ]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

So my first question is on the margins. So we have posted good margins of more than -- around 13.5% this quarter against our guidance of around 1% to 1.5% for the full year. So what led to this improvement? And can we see similar margins in the upcoming quarters? Or was there any one-off this quarter?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#33

Basically, we have started 3 new projects in this quarter, 2 are Marashtra Solosec, MH1 and MH2 and road projects and projection in low region. So basically, another 3 projects are about to start for which we already gave not at a funded rate in the first quarter of the July. Basically, it improves the numbers as well going forward in the future.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

Okay. But we still maintain our guidance at 1% to 2.5%, right?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#35

Can you repeat it once again?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#36

I'm asking, are we still maintaining our guidance at 11% to 12.5% range?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#37

Yes. We are going to maintain.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#38

Okay. And sir, about order inflow, I think we guided for around INR 55 billion of order inflow for this year. We have done around -- in Q1?

Kapil Agarwal

executive
#39

We have guided our investors for INR 6,000 crores. We've already got close to INR 600 crores and rest is achievable during the year.

Operator

operator
#40

The next question comes from the line of [ Parth Thakkar with JM Financial. ]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#41

Sir, I would like to ask when can we expect the 2 new projects?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#42

So our FC date due for Bihar is, I think, next month. And the Baja project is close to November. So once -- I mean, we have already tied up with the bank. And once the FC is done, maximum 2 or 3 months after that, we should start to work.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#43

So you can extend the AD for both by 4Q?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#44

So yes, fourth quarter, we should expect a -- I mean, we have -- we can expect by third quarter. Otherwise, in fourth quarter, definitely, we'll get the ADs of the project.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#45

Sir, what has -- what is the amount of CapEx we have done in this quarter and how it can be expected for full year?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#46

Close to INR 14 crores, we have done the CapEx in this quarter. That was primarily a launcher which have been purchased in a -- so from the IPO proceeds, we have already captured more than INR 100 crore worth of machining. So as and when any specialized machinery is required, then only people go for buying, otherwise, we do have ample machine for execution of these projects.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#47

And what would be the full year CapEx guidance?

Kapil Agarwal

executive
#48

Close to INR 30 crores, INR 35 crores.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#49

And what are we stand maintaining our revenue growth guidance 15%?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#50

So earlier we used to say it should be with 10% to 15%. This year, it should be a minimum of 15%.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#51

Okay. And what would be an equity invested in HAM and solar in this quarter?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#52

This quarter, particularly the quarter which has gone or the new quarter, which is right now...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#53

In 1Q and year-to-date?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#54

INR 23 crores we have invested in the first quarter.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#55

So this is cumulative both HAM and solar?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#56

Yes, yes.

Operator

operator
#57

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Chaitrika, an Individual Investor. Please go ahead.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#58

My first question for the next 3 years, what will be the biggest driver of shareholder value? Like will it be revenue growth, margin expansion, asset monetization or higher ROC.

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#59

So good question. We have almost 11 verticals in the company. We always target to bid at 25% IRR at the project level. And if you see, we have already sold 1 asset, which is Maroto Sadly, which has given much more the IRR, what we committed or we guided our esters. So -- our order book is robust for next 4 years. You can see that. We have good capacity to build more projects. And our projects which are going to get completed, we are very clear that we are going to sell those projects. We have already done that in the past. We've already sold Motor Adewale, which happened in the first quarter. And I mean, if we maintain our EBITDA margins out of the EPC level and we make money on our equity, you also can see, we have already levered it before. Our return on equity would be great as compared to the peers in the market.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#60

Okay. And sir, 1 other improve was relatively modest. Is this mainly a timing issue? Or do you expect a strong acceleration in Q3 or Q2 or Q3?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#61

So normally, the order inflow comes in Q3 and Q4. If you see last year in Q4, we got almost 45% of the order book.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#62

Okay. And sir, should we expect working capital intensity to improve in FY '27 or will higher execution KPIs elevated?

Kapil Agarwal

executive
#63

Yes, definitely, there will be an improvement in FY '27, looking at the reduction given by the government. -- and it will improve further in FY '28.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#64

And 1 more 1 and last question, sir. How do you see margins and returns in renewable compared to our traditional and EPC business?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#65

So we have guided our investors the same kind of margin, but of course, we're trying to achieve better.

Operator

operator
#66

The next question comes from the line of Vaibhav Shah from JM Financial.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#67

Sir, you mentioned that you will be investing roughly INR 550 crores in equity in HAM projects. But if you look at the status of the HAM projects, we may be doing a 2-hour awaited awaiting AD. And another 2 will be starting now -- and also for Southern, we were expecting some slowdown in execution this year because of land challenge. And how much equity you're investing in before. We will be investing 70%, 80% for the VRK projects in this year itself? .

Kapil Agarwal

executive
#68

Yes. Vaibhav, if you look at the sanction requires us to infuse 50% of paid in V11 and 12. So this is what we have considered in the total commitments. -- if you look at there are other projects also which are going on like Northern the Southern Asia named in which we have to infuse the equity. So as and when the progress will achieve, we will accordingly infuse an empty in those projects. So in totality, we will be closing INR 550 crores, which is across all HAM.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#69

Incrementally, right?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#70

Incremental.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#71

Because I was factoring roughly 70% for both VR projects, then Northern Ioana entire equity and also 70% in -- turning then was getting roughly INR 430 crores, INR 440 crores incremental.

Kapil Agarwal

executive
#72

Ludhiana, Batinda we are targeting close to INR 53 crores. And then Ludhiana, Ayodhya bypass, we are targeting [ INR 61 crores, ] INR 53 crore in another polite. VIK11and12, we are targeting INR 91 crore INR 139 crores. Southern Ludhiana bypass we are targeting INR 38 crores. In train, we are targeting INR 60 crores, INR 50 crores we are targeting in Bihar Shigen project. There could be a INR 16 crores. So in totality, this comes INR 550 crores.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#73

Okay. Okay. secondly, on depreciation, we saw a sharp fall from around INR 13-odd crores last quarter in Q1 to INR 9.5 crores. So incrementally, what would be the run rate? And what was the reason for this fall in depreciation amount in 1Q?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#74

So if you look at the block Materis constraint, it basically charge at the same rate -- so reduction due to some of the assets which has been shown in the previous financial year. And there is a WB is which we are charging on the assets. This would be the recurring rent going forward? -- if we are going to buy a few assets more during the year, definitely, this will increase. Otherwise, if you look at the same level, it will keep on reducing every year.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#75

Okay. And sir, lastly, on other income, we saw a staff fall from INR 15-odd crores last year to INR 9.5 crores in this year first quarter. So even this will be recurring or we may see some increase in other income?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#76

Other income, if you look at is primarily on account of royalty, which we were getting in the earlier, yes, the write-off, we are not charging royalty FDR, if you look at in the previous financial year, we were having proceeds from IPO on which we were getting returns in form of an interest on FDs. So we don't have that surplus now we have 100% utilized the IPO proceeds in the last quarter FY'26. So whatever FDs we have, we have close to almost INR 320 crores of these lying in the books of accounts. So as per the rate of interest, we are getting the interest in the work so far.

Vaibhav Shah

analyst
#77

So this should be a retained number, right?

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#78

This will be on the same line, what we have shown in the first quarter.

Operator

operator
#79

The next question comes from the line of Yash Parker and Individual Investor.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#80

Sir, my question was regarding the commercial papers. So recently, we have approved the issuance of commercial papers of around INR 100 crores on a private placement basis. Sir, as a shareholder, I would like to understand, what is the commercial paper intending to fund -- and how does rising short form commercial people relate with the long tenure nature of our HAM and EPC project cash flows.

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#81

So commercial people are going to come out from our working capital event. So the reason being we are getting a better ROI on commercial paper will be close to 6.8% to 7% as against the retail, where we are getting a rate of 7.5% to 7.8%. So this will reduce our finance costs. And moreover, we will be entering into the market by issuance of commercial paper, which will give more varies to the company and visibility to the...

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#82

Okay. And sir, could you elaborate on the near-term pipeline, what it looks like in the 2 international markets? And whether we should expect meaningful revenue contribution from the single global PET Limited or the U.S. entity within FY '27 and '28.

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#83

So we are very conservative going global. We have quoted a few tenders. One was in Romania and few in Dubai because of this war situation, we are a little more innovative now. And our order book is robust in India. So we are -- we want to do baby steps there. We are bidding for a few more projects, which I can tell you on this slide. Once we bill, we can share that. Otherwise, our order book is robust in India. We want to grow internationally, but again, very conservatively. Thank you.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#84

Sir, last question from my end. So consolidated ROE has fallen sharply to 14% in FY '26, even though ROCE has been comparatively more stable, somewhere around 19%, 20% over the same period. Is this decline in ROE purely a function of the equity base expanding post IPO and post QIP type capital raises? Or is there a genuine decline in return on incremental capital deployed that we should be concerned about?

Kapil Agarwal

executive
#85

This was primarily on account of rising equity share capital only. So if you look at -- we were close to INR 2,098 crores equity share capital at the end -- so my base has increased, which has reduced to...

Operator

operator
#86

Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Ramneek Sehgal for the closing remarks.

Ramneek Sehgal

executive
#87

Thank you very much, everyone. I would once again like to thank all the participants for joining us today. and making this an engaging and insightful discussion. We appreciate your continued interest and confidence in Ceigall India Limited. As we move forward, we remain committed to disciplined execution, prudent capital allocation creating sustainable long-term value for all our stakeholders. We hope we have been able to address all your calls. In case you have any further questions, please feel free to connect with our escalation teams in that sector. Thank you once again. Have a good day, guys. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#88

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Ceigall India Limited, that concludes this conference call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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