Chegg, Inc. (CHGG) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

June 3, 2021

New York Stock Exchange US Consumer Discretionary Diversified Consumer Services conference_presentation 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#1

All right. Good morning, or good afternoon, I guess, depending on where you are. Welcome to the session with Chegg. I'm Stephen Sheldon, and I cover vertical technology at William Blair, including education technology. I'm required to inform you that a complete list of research disclosures and potential conflicts of interest is available at our website at williamblair.com. Great to have Chegg here at our conference for the first time. Always fun to spend some time with Andy Brown, the company's long-time CFO. So thanks for joining us today, Andy.

Andrew Brown

executive
#2

So I assume that means you think I'm old.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#3

Chegg has continued to grow and scale nicely here over the last few years, and it seems like it's still in the earlier innings for -- of a few key multiple growth drivers, so we'll certainly dig into that. But just to start here, Andy, first time at the conference, can you just start with a high-level overview of the solutions that you're providing across the education landscape?

Andrew Brown

executive
#4

Yes. I -- thanks, Stephen, and thanks for the invite to the conference, and good afternoon, or good morning to everybody. It's morning here in California, still. Yes, let me kind of again give a quick overview of Chegg. For those of you that are not familiar with us, but I suspect most of you are, so I'll try to do this quickly. In real simple terms, when Chegg was originally founded, we were a textbook company. We're no longer a textbook company, even though we offer textbooks, right? And so I look at Chegg, as you see Chegg today, Chegg was re-founded about a little over 11 years ago when our current CEO, Dan Rosensweig, was -- came on board. And he had this -- and then he -- and then obviously brought most of the management team on. As a long-time CFO, I'm coming up on 10 years here in October as the CFO of Chegg. But Dan had this vision that was started -- kind of kernel started with the original founders, where their vision was, well, let's -- we just want to go direct to the student with textbook rental, very much like Netflix. And they created this platform and the beginning of a brand. Dan's vision was a little different. He was like, okay, well, if you can do that with textbooks, and you're really distributing somebody else's content, not your own content, why couldn't we do that for any education material and go direct to the student, which is -- was a novel premise at the time because all student services really went through the institution for the most part. And so what we've done over the last 10 years or 11 years is built a set of services, primarily subscription service, not exclusively, but primarily subscription services, where we provide online, on-demand help to students, anytime, anyplace, anywhere, right? And so basically, 24/7, pretty much what they expect from everything they do in their lives today. Everything is on demand, right? Whether it's purchasing things, whether it's videos or music, everything is on demand. And so we have done that for the education space, gone directly to the student and created a massive brand in the U.S. and increasingly outside the U.S., and we can get into that. But if you're investing in Chegg, the 3 -- I'll call it the 3 core products or maybe 4 core products that we have, our subscription services we have, these. And I'll go through them in the order of size. We don't break out the size, but the order of size. The first thing is what we call Chegg Study. It's $14.95. It started out 11 -- 10 years ago as just textbook solutions. And much like Amazon has done with Prime, where they started out as 2-day shipping, and have added a ton of components to it, we've done the same thing with Chegg Study. And so over the years, with Chegg Study, we've added -- we went from just textbook solutions for 400 textbooks to textbook solutions for 35,000 textbooks, for example. But we've added other services. We've added Expert Q&A, we've added things like practice tests and assessments, we've added video-based learning. And we will continue to add, like I said, much like Prime has done. Unlike Prime, which has increased its price over the years, we're still at $14.95. So it hasn't changed. And so that's what we call Chegg Study. There are 2 other services that we've -- we offer also that are, one being what we call our writing tools service, and it's not just writing tools, it's a set of web properties that offer writing services. And so for example, what -- they all do the same thing, and that allows the student to upload a paper, and then for free what we'll do is identify the citations and then create a bibliography in many formats for that student. And then if the student wants to get additional services like grammar, sentence structure, plagiarism checks, they can upsell or up subscribe to our $9.95 subscription product. And so that's a product, where a big part of it's ad based. So we've got programmatic advertising. But the bigger -- the faster growing part of it is the subscription side. And then the third element is our math service. And primarily now it's what we call Mathway, an acquisition we made just a year ago, even though we had a math product before this. And that, once again, $9.95 is a math solver, solves equation, solves not just math equations, but scientific equations. And that is primarily -- once again, primarily subscription-based, but we do get some ad revenue from that, and it's $9.95 a month, but they also do offer an annual subscription, which we don't offer on the other 2 services for $39.95 a month, which should be told is a screaming deal. And so those are the 3 core. And we had approximately -- and then maybe just to wrap it all up, we also -- about 1.5 years ago or so, we introduced what we call the Chegg Study Pack, which is taking Chegg Study, adding and -- adding, writing and then adding math as a bundled product, and that is for $19.95. And so when you look at the core of our company -- if you're investing in our company today, that's at the core of what you're investing in. There's some other ancillary services that we've had over a period of time, but that's the core. And that constitutes of the 6.6 million subscribers we had last year, pretty much all -- is in that category. And just as a -- to kind of round out the subscription side of the business, and we probably have about -- we have about 40 million students across the globe that access our sites. And then I guess maybe the last part of this, and this is a small piece of our business today, but it's a big piece of our future. And that is, we tipped our toe in this, what we call skills-based learning. If you think about what I just articulated before, that was academic learning. That's going after that academic user, whether it's college, high school or middle school. Skill space is typically -- it's different. It's outside the academic space, but it's still learning. So we're still addressing learners, and so we tipped our toe in that space a little -- 1 year, 1.5 years ago, with a small acquisition of a company called Thinkful. And what you can expect from us in the future is that we would add to that asset base, and we do anticipate that, in fact, skills-based learning is -- should be a big growth driver for us over the next, call it, 3 to 5, 10 years. So with -- I know that was a pretty long winded, but I'll leave it at that.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#5

Yes. No, no, that was great. I appreciate that. I think maybe starting on with -- on the content side, I think, the value of the subscription seems like it's gone up as you continue to add content you made. An interesting announcement last night with a new form of content, I think, your Uversity, I believe that's how you say it. But -- so can you talk more about that offering, what it might add to your platform? And maybe any detail on how it could drive monetization?

Andrew Brown

executive
#6

Yes. So we're super excited about Uversity. That is something that's been in the development for a long period of time, both from a research standpoint. Did it make sense, right? Did it makes sense from a student standpoint, did it make sense from a professor standpoint. And then the development of the capability. And so let me explain to folks what this means. And that is what we announced yesterday is that we have now added the capability to our platform to -- for professors to be able to generate content, upload it on to Uversity as we're calling it, Uversity, and get paid for that content. So pretty much like we do with every other piece of content. We pay experts to generate content for us. What we're doing is we're adding the professor to that. Because what we've heard from students is this, is they would like course level type material. And so what we're offering to professors is to pay them for course-level material. And so the professor -- and it's -- right now, it is U.S.-based professors only, to be clear, for right now. And what it does is it allows the professor to register on our site. We verify that, in fact, they are a professor from the school, which they say they're from. And then it will allow them to upload content that they have developed, their IP, and they own that IP, and we will pay for it. And it would be things like, it could be class notes, it could be study guides, it could be practice tests, it could be video-based content, various types of content, and we have a rate card that we will pay professor if that content as they do it. And so we'll be doing that for the next several months. And so it won't be exposed to the students at this point in time. But we want to get a critical mass of content from professors. And then sometime in the fall, we haven't picked a date yet, but sometime in the fall when we believe there's a critical mass of content from the professors, we will then allow students to access that through our Chegg Study and Chegg Study Pack subscriptions. And so what we believe is that if you get that type of course level type material, it can attract, a, new -- potentially new students to our platform. And then the second part is, hopefully, it would retain students longer on our platform. And so there's -- we believe there's a lot of benefits. We've done a lot of research behind this. And like I said, we announced that yesterday, super excited about it. And to some extent, it piggybacks on if you think about it, to announcement we made earlier in the year around Honor Shield, right, engaging the professors around academic integrity. And so what we're trying to do is engage the professors, make it a win-win, and also providing our students with additional forms or modality of content that they certainly have expressed that they want, and we're a perfect platform in a vehicle to deliver it to them.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#7

Got it. And that makes sense. As you think about -- I guess, 2 follow-up questions on that. One, would you expect the focus still be in areas like -- I think you focused heavily on STEM subjects before you maybe expanded a little bit beyond that. But is this going to be -- would it be kind of more content focused on where you're already focusing? Or would there be a -- would you be looking at potentially adding content in new verticals? And then second, I guess when you're paying, is it like a revenue share that you'd be paying with for these professors? Or is it more like a fixed fee? I mean you talked about a rate card...

Andrew Brown

executive
#8

Yes, yes, yes. Good questions. And so the answer is on the content side of things. We're -- currently, the platform is primarily what we call STEM-B, not just STEM, but STEM-B, being business -- quantitative business, accounting statistics and things like that. But what I'm going to limit ourselves to what gets onto the platform, why wouldn't we help students with literature, why wouldn't we help them with geography? Why wouldn't we, right? And this may be an opportunity to accelerate our ability to get into some of those areas. So we're not going to limit that. On the rate card, as I called it, the answer is, initially, it's a fixed fee, kind of like -- the same way it's a fixed fee when we pay our experts that answer -- do the Expert Q&A, or do the textbook solution. So it's a fixed fee. Having said that, that may vary over time. As you probably know, when you start things out, you think one thing is going to happen, and then it could evolve into something else. But right now, it's a fixed fee for the professor as they upload content. And yes, we're excited about it, and we hope we get a lot of professors engaged on the platform.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#9

Got it. It's really helpful. I think a lot of investors have asked recently about the boost you've seen from the pandemic and whether there could be a reset in subscribers as more students move back to in-person education, hopefully, this fall. I think there could also be a counterargument that more higher education students have been exposed to the ROI of your solution. So if you think about this topic, kind of, one, how much risk you see in terms of a larger percentage of students canceling their subscription than you would normally see? And two, have you seen anything change in the cancellation rate so far?

Andrew Brown

executive
#10

The answer is -- so the answer to the last question is no. And it's been an interesting time for us because it's really not just about COVID, right? So we've really got 3 elements that are -- that have happened over the last 12 months at the company that we're -- better use of term is, we're kind of lapping, right? You've got really -- if you add COVID, it's 4, interestingly enough. But I think about it more from what we've been doing in the business versus the COVID. So we've got account sharing. We've got math, right? So account sharing, we implemented technology around account sharing August of last year and then incremental addition in October of last year. Well -- this month, we're lapping Mathway acquisition. And then the third thing that we're lapping, which is more -- most likely more COVID-related, this is certainly COVID-related, and that is the lapping of the acceleration, particularly of the international student base, where kids went off-campus, not just in the U.S., but across the globe. And where did they go? They go to the internet. And we're one of the few direct-to-student internet help services on the academic side. So whether or not you're in the U.S. or Turkey, you found Chegg. So those are the 3 elements that were -- that are different this year as we're lapping those. And so I don't think it's just a one thing. As far as -- as we look at students, first thing is we expect students to be on campus in the fall. We absolutely expect that. When you think about how we forecast things, why wouldn't you? I mean, you can already see it. We do anticipate that the declines that we saw in the fall and then the additional declines that we saw in the spring, I think spring depend upon who surveyed it, but enrollments were down 9% to 13%. I think those probably stabilize in the fall, but I don't think they increase. So that's kind of our anticipation. And as kids go back on to campus -- those kids that came to Chegg -- the few kids that came to Chegg maybe because they couldn't access campus help. There's nothing to indicate in the surveys that we have done with our students to suggest that why wouldn't they want 24/7 help. That's -- I call it on-demand help. That's -- everything they do in their life is on demand, except education, if you think about it, right? On-demand TV shows, on-demand videos, on-demand music, on-demand buying, right? You can buy anything on Amazon at 3:30 in the morning for goodness sakes. And so I don't see that changing, and those folks that were exposed just because they couldn't get on campus, I don't -- there's nothing that we've seen that would indicate that their behaviors on Chegg would change. Now one of the things that has been interesting for us around account sharing, and it has helped with the strength on Chegg Study and Chegg Study Pack is that we've seen our cancel and our renewal rates actually improve. And it's -- what's interesting is because as kids couldn't share, even though they were using our platform and not paying for it, when they went to subscribe, unlike brand-new subscribers, they already -- it's almost like they were resubscribing, and therefore, we've seen our -- interestingly enough, we've seen our renewal rates, they don't spike because renewal rates don't spike. But if you can get 10 basis points or even 50 or 100 basis points, it's a massive win. And so we have seen our renewal rates benefit as a result of not allowing kids to share the -- we believe, to share passwords and things like that.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#11

Got it. A lot to dig into there. And maybe on the account sharing side, just because we were talking about it. I guess -- and I think some investors have perceived this as potentially a onetime boost, where you had a certain population of students that didn't use -- that used the platform, but weren't paying for it. They were using piggybacking on other people's accounts. And so if you had a population there, you probably converted some of those people. But is there a multiyear growth impact here? And I guess the question would be, you're seeing higher brand awareness, you're seeing early brand awareness in international markets. If 5 people -- new people learn about the platform now, maybe before you had 1 convert into a paid sub and 2 or 3 piggybacking on it, maybe now you have 5 new people to learn about the platform and 4 -- 3 or 4 sign up, I guess. Do you view the account sharing as kind of a onetime boost to growth? Or do you think there's going to be a multiyear benefit from this?

Andrew Brown

executive
#12

Yes. We believe there's -- the evidence is suggested there's a multiyear benefit. And let me kind of like to expand that. Is there maybe a short-term boost that potentially was because of those that already were sharing. But what people don't understand is that when you've got that brand-new subscriber that subscribed in January, where may have shared that account in February doesn't happen anymore. So that one that they would have shared to had to get a subscription. And so you may be getting -- and I'm not sure it's a 1 to 2 -- I'm not -- but I'm giving you the kind of the example where the ability to share has gone away, particularly as we did MFA, right? So that was the second step was the MFA back in October. Multifactor authentication, in case people are not quite familiar with the acronyms as I throw them around. So yes, we do believe that as new subscribers come on where they may have shared in the past, they can't -- it's not impossible to share, but it's very, very difficult given the technology we've put in place. So yes, we do believe it's a longer-term impact for our business. And should be told in retrospect, we probably should have implemented sooner. One of the things we -- as people have asked me, well, why did you get to this point where you didn't do it sooner? A part of what we wanted to do early on, maybe like once again, it went a little longer because we just wanted Chegg Study to be ubiquitous on campus. That was it, right? And so we said, you know what, we'll -- and so yes, we implemented technology last year being super successful, and we think we benefited beyond just a few quarters.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#13

Got it. And wanted to dig in a little bit more on the international side. It seems like that's one area that you're getting a lot of traction now. I think you talked about a little bit. How are students finding the platform now in these international markets, where you haven't invested much, I guess, how are they finding it?

Andrew Brown

executive
#14

Well, the good news is that most of it -- while it's not quite as high, but the good news is it's primarily through SEO, right? So students need help. The first thing they do is they'll go ask the question on the -- they'll ask a question. They'll search for, I need help with physics or chemistry or accounting. And so it's still a very, very large percentage of our students are coming through SEO. We are -- however, we are investing incrementally more in marketing. And one of the decisions we made a year ago once we saw the acceleration internationally because originally, we thought our original foray internationally, we were thinking initially, not long term, but initially, it's just going to be English speaking, right? Canada, U.K., Australia. What we found as a result of the pandemic as kids went off-campus, is that it was -- that more countries in the world were accessible in fairly significant volumes. I mean, a good example was a year ago, Tracey and I, our VP of IR, sat down with our international -- with lady that runs our international business, and we were shocked how many subscribers we had in Turkey. I mean, like tens of thousands. It's like, Turkey, wow. And so what that has done for us is last year, right around this time, we decided to accelerate the investment in international. Part of it was marketing, which is what you just alluded to. So yes, are we -- do we have specific marketing campaigns around certain countries or regions around the globe? The answer is yes. Did we have that 2 years ago? The answer was no, right? So we now have that. And we are seeing -- and some of it is just to get subscribers on to the platform, but part of it is also brand, right? So we're -- and we are absolutely seeing the benefits of our brand outside the U.S. There's just no doubt. Now is it at the U.S. level? No. But we're absolutely seeing the Chegg brand start to grow outside the U.S. And the second thing we did, and this is kind of behind the scenes and won't get -- we don't need to get into a lot of these, but it's just all of the technological stuff you need to do to go international. The systems, whether it's currency, it's unique -- and we're not -- and by the way, when I say these things, it means they're -- we may be doing some of them today, but not many of them, but they're in process, right? So currency at present -- we're doing some currency in present, but things like unique products for international markets, unique pricing for international market, potentially a unique website, a dot ca website for Canada or a dot co.uk website for U.K. All of the things that you need to develop from a technological standpoint, we doubled down on the investment last year, along with the marketing. And we continue to make those investments this year, and we'll continue to make those investments next year because ultimately, we believe that -- let's just imagine 10 years from now, I don't want to get into the short term, but imagine 10 years from now, if we're as successful as we believe we should be, international should be larger than the U.S. is both from a revenue and a subscriber standpoint. Just take a look at Netflix, it's a good example of that. I think that's a good example.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#15

And if you think about in the U.S., I think it took a couple of years for you to get started to see -- you started to get some critical mass and then you started to see the second degree benefit in terms of subscriber growth driven by positive referrals, word-of-mouth activity on campuses. Would you expect to see similar trends internationally? And have you started to see any, I guess, early indications that, that could happen?

Andrew Brown

executive
#16

Oh, absolutely. And one of the things -- and I think we mentioned this on the last call or the call before, but we had -- 30% of our brand-new questions through our Expert Q&A network came internationally. Trust me, we don't have -- 30% of our revenue doesn't come internationally. I wish it did. That would be a good story to tell. But what that tells you is that we're getting those questions, and we're getting the engagements from those students. And what the beauty of that is, and as you know, Stephen, is that it's not just answering the question, so the student gets the help they want, but we also take that question and we index it in the search engines. And so that has that kind of flywheel effect. So if somebody asked a similar question in Argentina or Turkey, whenever it is, then we get -- so -- and it's basically free marketing as it were in that sense, right? And so we're starting to see that flywheel effect that we saw, I don't know, 4 or 5 years ago in the U.S. We're starting to see elements of that in certain pockets outside the U.S., which is super encouraging to us. And I think one of the things that's nice about where it's very similar to the U.S. and outside the U.S. is that there's not a lot, if any, competition, right? I mean, most educational ed tech services typically go through the institutions. We're one of the few companies that I'm sure -- certainly public companies, I mean, there are some other nonpublic or private companies that -- company like a Quizlet would be a good example of that, a different business, but they've created some level of brand inside and outside the U.S. But we're one of the -- the only one that I'm aware of that's really created a brand, a platform. And truth be told, a real business out of it, right? I mean it's not like we're approaching $1 billion of revenue. I'm not trying to forecast when that will be. But I'm just saying given our guidance at 800, close to 800, it's like -- so we're the only company I know of that size that can really compete whether it's in the U.S. or outside the U.S. So yes, we think we're in a great position to meet our objectives outside the U.S.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#17

Got it. I want to make sure I hit -- I asked at least about the bundled rollout of Chegg Study Pack. I mean can you talk some about the cadence of the rollout and any ballpark metrics on the adoption you've seen within the subscriber base? And just what -- as you've done this, what has surprised you the most about it?

Andrew Brown

executive
#18

So a couple of things. So everybody is on the level set. We introduced the Chegg Study Pack, we used to call it the bundle back in January of 2020. I want to make sure I get that right. We -- Chegg Study Pack is that combination of the 3 products, Chegg Study, Chegg Writing, Chegg Math for $19.95 versus Chegg Study at $14.95. We give students that come on our platform, the option of to do one or the other. So what have we seen -- and the third thing is we're only offering it to new subscribers or resubscribers. So we're not offering it to our renewal base. And we can talk about why that's the case. But nonetheless, so as we introduced it last January and where we are today, it is -- the adoption rate has far exceeded what we thought it would be. I don't know if that's because our testing platform s**** or whether it's related by accident. But it's very, very clear that students are recognizing the value, both in the U.S. and even increasingly more so a little bit outside the U.S. And so we've said all along that success to us is that 50% of our user base subscribes to Chegg's -- at least, when I say at least, 50% subscribes to Chegg Study Pack over Chegg Study, we're ahead of where we thought we would be. And we will continue to evaluate what's in the base, and what's in the premium price product. And we continue to test things like that, right? Whether it's we test pricing, we test what components are in the base versus outside the base to optimize those students that take the premium price product.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#19

Got it. And it seems like your -- I think one of the things you do is you constantly test different forms of bundles in different markets. I guess, what should investors be expecting in terms of more iterations of the bundle to drive potentially revenue per subscriber higher? And how do solutions like tutoring potentially fit into that?

Andrew Brown

executive
#20

Yes. We will continue to test other things and some people may have been on our site 6 months ago or so or whenever it was, where we had a $29.95 option for a slice of our students. I mean a slice being, I think we had a 5% sell. We still had significant volume. We will continue to iterate around the bundle. I think we're still at a fairly early phase on the bundle. Whether or not it's pricing, $29.95, there's an option there. And that I think you're referring to that, that included a tutoring element to it. I think we called it Chegg Study Pack Live, if I recall correctly. So you had a tutoring element to it. But look, we're likely to test other things, too. And so we're not -- we're -- for us, it's what makes sense to the student. And you're always -- if you try to subscribe to our website, and I know many investors do, and I've been caught out by this occasionally, and -- where they said, "Well, you're offering this." I'm like, oh, we are? Because I don't keep track of every test that we do. But we will continue to do that and try to optimize around the premium price solution, whether it's price, whether it's features, whether it's functionality. Yes, you would expect us to do that over the next several years.

Stephen Sheldon

analyst
#21

Got it. Well, Andy, I think this went by way too fast. I wish we had more time here because there's a lot of other things we could dig into. Really appreciate your time. Thank you, everyone, for joining. We'll be in touch and look forward to digging in more. Thanks, everyone.

Andrew Brown

executive
#22

Thanks, everybody. Thank you, Stephen. Take care. Buh-bye.

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