CJ ENM CO., Ltd. (035760.KQ) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 7, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood morning, and good evening. First of all, thank you all for joining this conference call. And now we'll begin the conference of the fiscal year 2025 Second Quarter Earnings Results by CJ ENM. This conference will start with a presentation followed by a divisional Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Now we shall commence the presentation on the fiscal year 2025 second quarter earnings results by CJ ENM.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Good afternoon. This is Woo from CJ ENM IR. I thank the shareholders and analysts for taking time out of your busy schedules to attend today's earnings release session. Now we will begin the earnings release session for CJ ENM Q2 2025. Please note that the financial and management results presented today have yet to undergo an independent auditor's review and could be subject to changes upon such review. Today here with us are heads of different business units and CFO Deuk-su Hwang. From media, we have [Indiscernible] from Music [Indiscernible], from Global [Indiscernible]. From Content business, we have [Indiscernible] and from Global, we have [Indiscernible] from Commerce [Indiscernible], Studio Dragon [Indiscernible] and we have TV CEO [Indiscernible]. First, CFO Deuk-su Hwang will brief us on major results and business strategy.
Deuk-su Hwang
executive[Interpreted] Good afternoon. This is CFO, Deuk-su Hwang. Profit in Q2 decreased on a Y-o-Y level, but seen much improvement compared to Q1, confirming improvement. We believe that the foundation for an earnest improvement in the second half of the year has been laid with tangible results in the first half and our strategic pursuit. There were many meaningful results that are aligned with our 2025 core strategy that was announced at the earlier part of the year. First, on strengthening R-made content production competitiveness. Resident Playbook has ranked #1 on TVdrama viewership, TVING and Netflix. Fifth Season's IP delivery has seen an increase by 11 compared to last year and seen a turnaround. Severance has been nominated in 27 categories for VME Award, bringing the total nomination for fifth season to 36. For acceleration of globalization, focus was on various activities, including album release of JO1 and INI concerts. LAPONE's half year revenue increased by 80% compared to last year, setting a new record. KCON Japan 2025 was also a hit with over 110,000 attendees. Korea, Japan joint planning and production dramas also saw growth with titles such as Marry my Husband: Japan. As for digital transformation fortification, subscriber decrease after the termination of NAVER membership in Q1 is fast recovering in Q2. New subscriber number is increasing through bundling with Wavve and increased alliance with [Petainjo]. Content cooperation synergies such as cross-programming is seeing an increase. TVING's average ADD subscriber ratio is at 46.3%, which is an increase by 21 percentage points compared to last year-end. Through human IP and video content investment enhancement, MNET has seen its global accumulated subscriber number go beyond 30 million and is establishing a profit model, including an advertisement based on it. According to the 2-track content strategy of celebrities and influencers, commerce continues to grow with 47% growth in the first half in MLC transaction amount. The business is also enhancing its differentiation and competitiveness with new premium brands and strengthening exclusive products. CJ ENM will continue to accelerate the implementation of business divisional core strategies and through that, will improve each business' profitability and focus on strengthening fundamental business competitiveness. I thank the shareholders and analysts for being with us. This is my presentation. Thank you.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Next is results presentation. CJ ENM's results presentation is based on consolidated K-IFRS numbers and operating profit has not been eliminated of internal transactions.
Kim Jey-hyun
executive[Interpreted] Good afternoon. This is Kim Jey-hyun from Finance. The revenue for the second quarter of 2025 was KRW 1.3129 trillion, a 13% increase compared to the same period last year, while operating profit was KRW 28.6 billion, a decrease of 19%. I will go over the changes in operating profit by business segment before the adjustments in the consolidated financial statements. The entertainment sector saw an increase in profit compared to last year due to the positive performance of LAPONE and the turnaround of Fifth Season. Although profits in commerce decreased due to an expansion of strategic investments such as new IP planning for the enhancement of the OnStar brand and online/offline marketing activities, revenue growth continued, thanks to the ongoing successful mobile live commerce. From Page 5, I will discuss the performance of each business segment and the outlook for the second half of the year. The media platform has continued to experience poor profitability due to a downturn in the broadcasting advertisement market. But from Q2, the viewer ratings for major anchor dramas have improved. And in the second half of the year, the company hopes to improve profit by scheduling high-profile premium content. TVING has seen a recovery in the number of subscribers, thanks to the expansion of platform synergy through bundling since June, and advertising revenue has increased due to the expansion of AVOD subscribers and KBO's popularity. In the second half of the year, we will enhance popular original content such as Exchange and the Great Escape and sports event-related content such as KBO, while focusing on achieving a turnaround through sustained subscriber growth through bundling and partnership services. We will also work to secure a global foundation centered in Japan and Southeast Asia. As for movies and dramas, Fifth Season has seen a turnaround with expansion of delivery, including Nine Perfect Strangers Season 2 and Strife Season 2 and is aiming for solid delivery, including his and hers for Netflix in the second half of the year. The overseas distribution of domestic content is expanding its global influence through premium K content production and distribution capabilities based on comprehensive partnership with global platforms such as Netflix and Amazon. In the second half of the year, anchor content such as Bon Appetite, Your Majesty and Typhoon Trading Company is scheduled for airing on OTT as well as the release of Director Park Chan Wook's No Other Choice. Music has grown, breaking quarterly sales record with album sales and concert performances of LAPONE's artists. Plans for the second half include securing local Japanese artists such as HipHop Princess and business expansion while focusing on strengthening the global MCS business model centered around Boys II Planet in the Greater China region. In the sector, strategic marketing investment costs increased due to the strengthening of content and expansion of customer touch points such as offline pop-up. However, MLP transaction amount has grown and sustained growth in revenue was supported by the strong performance of the health supplement and beauty categories with the wellness trend. In the second half, the business will strengthen the growth momentum of e-commerce with influencer collaboration and SNS and expansion of marketing channels, including TV. For more details, please refer to the materials. Thank you.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Now Studio Dragon will present the results.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Good afternoon. This is Chung Ho from Studio Dragon Finance. I will brief you on the management performance for Q2 2025. The total number of episodes aired in Q2 was 41, the lowest level ever recorded. The number of TV programmed episodes decreased by 7 Y-o-Y at 27, which led to a decline in programming and licensing revenue. The profitability worsened with remaining amortization costs from the previous quarter's major production. With that, the second quarter revenue stood at KRW 114.5 billion with an operating loss of KRW 2.9 billion. However, there were positive results in terms of content viewership performance. Our Unwritten Seoul achieved a peak rating of 9.4% on TVN and Marry My Husband Japanese version, a remake of our Megahit IP ranked first for 5 consecutive weeks shortly after its launch on Amazon Prime Video Japan, proving our content competitiveness and growth potential in the global market. In the second half of the year, we aim to recover our lineup and maximize the performance of each project such as Head of the Hills, Bon Appetite, Your Majesty and The Manipulated while strengthening our approach to the global market. Furthermore, we will solidify our mid- to long-term growth foundation by diversifying our business model to go beyond the current drama business, including launch of new actor partnerships and expanding ancillary businesses.
Operator
operator[Interpreted] [Operator Instructions] The first question will be given by Kim from Daishin Securities.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] Yes, I have 2 questions. First is on your K Culture [Valley] project. I have noted that there was liquidated delay damage amounting to something around KRW 310 billion. And has any of this amount been previously reflected in your book numbers? If so, I would like to know the amount? And what would be your response to this damage compensation going forward? And my second question is on local production. Well, I do have noted that Marry My Husband, the Japanese version has peaked well in Japanese market. So I would like to see an update on your future local production plans.
Kim Jey-hyun
executive[Interpreted] This is Kim from Finance. I will be addressing your first question on the liquidated delayed damage imposed by [Strong]. As we have disclosed in July this year, the claim from [Strong] stood at KRW 34.4 billion. But as to how they came to a conclusion of this number, we have yet to find out their formula or the legal foundation for imposing this damage amount. And we believe that they have claimed this damage amount, but not based only on the basic contract that we had in place, but also for the period that continued after the termination of the contract. And we have received advice from our legal advisers and have built a reserve, which is founded on a very rational calculation, and it has been audited by our independent auditors. And as was disclosed, we have subjected to this number, and we are readying ourselves for damage.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Now on local production. Yes. This is Studio Dragon, answering to your second question. As you have noted, Marry My Husband, the Japanese version has done quite well after its release. It has been ranked #1 for 5 consecutive weeks on Amazon Japan. And in the second half, we hope to continue this momentum with 2 new titles. Well, PVS, [Hardcourt Dogs] and GTX, that's our subsidiary. They have participated in a title called [Soulmates], and these are the 2 titles that are scheduled in the Japanese market.
Operator
operator[Interpreted] The following question is by [Shin Zhang from DB Securities].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] I have 3 questions about Studio Dragon. First question to CJ. Well, could I know the revenue and operating numbers [and season? And I could -- if you could, could you elaborate on your forecast for the second half of the year? And my first question is for Studio Dragon. In your IR documentation pack, I see that you have plans to release 14 titles in the second half of this year. [indiscernible]
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Yes, I will give you the breakdown. Yes, we did mention to you 4 titles to be released [indiscernible] In the second half [indiscernible] Yes. And as to the increase by 2, 3 titles in the first half of '26 compared to the second half of '25, well, there has been no confirmation yet, no concrete plans as of today. So I cannot give you further color on our plans. So should things become [indiscernible] Yes. And as for your China question, we do expect a visit from President of China in October to Korea. And if things go well, we would see an easing of ban on Korean content in the larger Chinese market. So sales of old titles to the Chinese market, which would, in turn, give us additional revenue. And we are also discussing potentials of co-airing with the Chinese platforms and also co-production with the Chinese makers. [indiscernible] an operating loss of KRW 24 billion. In the second half [indiscernible] And strengthen alliance with SK Telecom. And with ban on sharing, we do hope to see the numbers improve. [indiscernible]
Operator
operator[Interpreted] Currently, there are no participants [Operator Instructions] The following question is by Yong Hyun Choi from KB Securities.
Yong Hyun Choi
analyst[Interpreted] Yes. I have 3 questions. First is related to your advertisement business. Well, I see that you have seen a decrease Y-o-Y when it comes to your TV ad revenue in the second quarter. What's your expectation for ad revenue in the second half? And well, is it decoupled with the economic move on how the economic cycle moves, do you expect to see revenue [indiscernible]? This is my first question. And my second question is for TVI business. I see that Y-o-Y top line has seen a decline. Well, I think it's because of ARPU so in consideration of the marketing activities in the second half, assuming that you see a similar level of ARPU in the second half, will you be working on your numbers through increase of subscriber basis? So would you be working on through increasing your subscribers? And my third question is for your commerce business. I see that MOC has done quite well in reported a blanket number. However, when it comes to operating profit of the Commerce division, I see that the growth here is negative. Could I interpret this as your MOC business having a lower OP margin?
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] [indiscernible] environment because of the given political and social environment, we found it difficult to turn the situation around with our given capabilities. And in the second half, we think the environment will somewhat change with improvement in consumer sentiment and also more investment by the government. So we do hope to see the environment change. And in the second half of the year, we also have [indiscernible] and with that, we will be doing our best when it comes to our ad sales activities and also content or context targeting. And we would also present to the ad owners TV solution. Yes. This is from answering your question. You've asked whether our decrease in number was due to the influence from our lower ARPU. Well, not necessarily, it's mainly due to 2 effects. First is the termination of our agreement with NAVER, which led to a decrease of our subscriber income -- subscription income. And the second was due to sluggish international sales. And we do expect to see things to change further better in the second half. We've already seen much evidence to that end. Well, we've seen our subscriber bases improve in June with our collaboration with [Pea] and also with bundling with [indiscernible]. And in July, we will have put a ban on account sharing, and we have strengthened our alliance with SKT, with that, we saw our subscriber bases improve. And we have our growth expectation for the second half because we work more closely with our international partners. And we, on a Y-o-Y basis, have seen our ad revenue a twofold increase. And with the KBO peak season, we hope to see this momentum continue. And with that, on a Y-o-Y basis, we will see an improvement on our revenue numbers. This is from Commerce division addressing your question. Well, your question was related to the increase in our MLP number, but strong numbers. Well as for our mobile live commerce business, well, we are currently seeing a transition from TV home shopping to a more mobile-based shopping experience. And rather than focusing on immediate profit, we are working to increase the size of this business and also to enhance the market presence. So we are in the midst of investing for our IP and also engage in diverse marketing activities when it comes to commerce MlC activities. So as for our MLC business, we are seeing profit, but it's a little bit above our breakeven point, not much of a contribution. But going forward in the second half and also going into year 2026, with a larger-sized business, we hope to see much greater contribution from MLC as well.
Operator
operator[Interpreted] The following question is by Yoon from Hana Securities.
Ki-hun Lee
analyst[Interpreted] I have first 3 questions. First is with Boys II Planet. You did mention in your previous answer the expectation for ban on Korean content. And Voice Plan of the competition be the beneficiary of the ban on Korean content. So what's your expectation for that? And my second question is for Apple TV's K-Cop. How does this program come to be? And if this program proves to be, how will the results be reflected in your numbers? And my third question is on your finance income. Well, was it due to the strengthening of loan did you enjoy a foreign currency exchange gain?
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Yes, this is my first answer related to your Boys II Planet and related to China business question. Well, currently, Episode 3 has been fared for Boys II Planet program. And compared to Season 1, Boys II Planet, this season, it's much more popular. It has gained more anticipation from the general crowd. And we do not, as of today, know how many Chinese people would be -- Chinese boys will be included in the finance debue group. But well, regardless of whether the ban on Korean content will be lifted in the second half or not, we are making our own operations. So in China, in order to boost their internal economy, we do see a lot of concerts ongoing in China. And even if there are few Chinese group, we could think about creating a debue group with the other Chinese participants and having them concerts and other opportunities. So we are currently in discussion with our Chinese partner. Nothing has been confirmed yet. But before the whole program is over, we hope to come up with the details. And as for your K-pop related question, the whole project, the initiation of the project was about 3 years ago. Lionel Richie, the U.S. singer gave us this idea. Well, it was through a discussion with that singer that we came to see the birth of this program. Initially, it was intended as an R&D entertainment format, but later, it evolves to be a K-pop format. So during the discussion, of course, gave us a lot of idea, a lot of in, and we are the main participants in the program. and it's not a contract with Apple Korea, but Apple itself. So should this attempt prove to be a success, there could be [indiscernible] K-pop, the program will be aired on Apple TV+ in Korea plus TI. So with K-pop, we hope to see an increase in expansion of our subscriber basis, too. Apple TV+ would be airing K-Pop and we currently at Apple TV have a TV brand, which is below Apple TV. And Apple TV, they have this huge need for Korean content. So it will not only be music format, but also drama and other entertainment formats that is aired through Apple TV platform. So likewise, we have this ongoing tight collaborative relationship with global OTT And as to your last question on our financial gains, yes, we did benefit from foreign currency exchange rate changes, but the major influence was with PBS derivative with Netmarble. When we sold our shares with Netmarble in July 2024, we've gained a PRS derivative product gain. In the first quarter, the share prices of Netmarble stood only at RMB 39,000. In the end of the second quarter, that has skyrocketed to RMB 62,000, giving us a derivative gain.
Operator
operator[Interpreted] The following question is by [indiscernible] from Yin Investment Securities.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] Yes I have 2 questions, one for CJ ENM and one for Studio Dragon. Well, the first question for CJ E&M is related to your fifth season business. I see that delivery was quite good in the results. Is it because you delivered more titles? Or is it because the delivery titles were more larger projects and will this be sustainable going into the future? This is my first CJ ENM related question. And my second question to Studio Dragon. I see in the presentation deck, you have plans for 2 titles in the second half, which will be bound for the market. Well, have you already received the series order? Or is it going to be booked? So I would like to know more details about the 2 titles that are bound for the U.S. market in the second half.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Yes, this is Kim from Global Business addressing your question. Well, if you see the delivery schedule for this year, well, it's quite even throughout all the part. And in the second quarter, we were able to deliver without major bridges. And we do hope to see such trend continue in the second half. And with that, we will be achieving what we have set out to achieve. And this is Studio Dragon answering your question to the 2 series order that is on the presentation deck. Well, typically, production time takes longer in the U.S. market. So the 2 series orders that you see in the presentation deck, the results of those projects will be reflected after next year. And we have plans for over 20 titles in the U.S. territory, we are -- have plans for planning and also development of them. And we have already set up structure for 4. So that is our plan for U.S. market.
Operator
operator[Interpreted] We have to end our Q&A session now. This concludes the fiscal year 2025 second quarter earnings results by CJ ENM. Thank you for your participation.
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