Cluey Ltd (CLU.AX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 29, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operator[Audio Gap] as well as acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, the traditional custodians of the land we are hosting this webinar on and pay my respects to the elders, both past and present. [Operator Instructions]. We will have time for the panel to respond to questions at the end of the presentation. Over to you, Mark.
Mark Rohald
executiveThank you, and welcome, everyone. Just by way of brief introduction, FY '23 -- sorry, yes, FY '23 has certainly been a very busy year for Cluey. And it's also been a complex year in terms of the macroeconomic environment, which, as we know, has been characterized by high interest rates and inflation. Our resolute focus has been on driving the business to profitability. And I'm pleased to say that we've made significant progress in this regard. A lot of the cost reduction changes have already been implemented, and we're seeing a reduction in our cash burn and getting closer to profitability. These cost reductions will also continue to flow in FY '24. In terms of our investment in product and tech, these are also now driving significant efficiencies in the business and we're really excited about the new products and services that we are planning on releasing in FY '24. We're also now seeing the benefits flowing from the integration of our Code Camp and Cluey business units. And Matteo and Greg will cover all of this [ off ] in more detail in the sections when they take you through their presentation. I'll now hand over to Matteo, who will do the first section.
Matteo Trinca
executiveThank you, Mark. And yes, you can go to the next slide, please. Good morning, everyone. The past year has been a formative period for Cluey. As we enter FY '23, we concentrated on securing the long-term future of this business, as Mark mentioned a second ago through a capital raise and a series of significant changes, which I'll summarize shortly. We've delivered robust revenue growth of 15% year-over-year, increasing from $34 million in FY '22 to $39 million in FY '23. We've made significant progress in customer acquisition cost, with an 18% reduction year-on-year, bringing CAC down to $352. We saw a substantial increase in our margin, moving from 53% in FY '22 to 57% in FY '23. This was driven by a high average session price and a more efficient utilization of our talented tutors and teachers across Code Camp and Cluey. Through the successful implementation of cost reduction initiatives in Q3, we also managed to yield annualized cost savings of more than $7 million. Our investment in product and tech is now returned benefits with a reduction in variable costs and significant improvements to the student and to their experience. It has been nearly 2 years since the Code Camp acquisition and we're very pleased with the progress achieved thus far. The post COVID performance of Code Camp is enabling the group to think differently about our investment strategies and provides more growth opportunities. Finally, our scaling operations in the U.K., focusing on Code Camp's after-school programs have met strong demand and achieved a strong product market fit. In essence, Cluey is on a clear path of profitability. We have lowered our cost base. We have expanded our margins, and we have grown our revenue. The efforts in building our Code Camp and extending operations in the U.K. and New Zealand, shows that we can grow a more complex business while also reducing our overheads. As we continue to focus on efficiencies, our product and tech investments have been key in driving automation and self-service. This has not only streamlined our operations, but has reduced the need for support personnel. And you can see a summary on the slide here with the core KPIs. Our customers can now easily reschedule any session. They can handle summer off-boarding. They can reactivate their own enrollments and they can select or change pricing plans all through the customer help. An integrated lesson system has also greatly simplified our internal customer service operations. Our tutors have been given a new and improved to the hub where they can fully manage their availability, driving less to the driven changes and more service consistency. Automatic on-demand learning program changes are now possible, greatly simplifying the behind-the-scenes work that provide the right learning programs to customers. All of these has made it possible to reduce our operation cost per session by 44% from July '22 to June '23. This resulted in a $1.8 million in annualized cost savings. Our introduction of new co-extracurricular learning programs have truly solidified a strong and unique offering within our market. These programs have not only created a broad market appeal driving high student reactivation, retention and attracting new customers, but also achieved significant traction. In Q4 FY '23, more than 50% of our revenue come from new programs. The success is evident in the robust engagement with these new additions. The strong product market fit and the distinctively unique nature of these programs set us apart from competitors. This product expansion is contributing to a lower CAC, a critical element in our growth strategy. The success seen here provides the playbook for the future, and we have the right focus on ensuring we maintain this competitive advantage. The growth we have experienced in after-school is a new chapter for Code Camp and a completing new business line introducing the playbook past acquisition. Our expertise to run sales operations and ability to recognize and leverage strong parallels between the Australia and the U.K. markets are the key drivers of growth for these new business lines. We've demonstrated a strong product market phase in both markets with our after-school programs, leading to an impressive expansion in venues and growing demand. With over 250 locations across the 2 markets, we've now resolved the key challenges behind acquisition on new venues and the logistical challenges of running in-person programs making our after-school offerings, a key factor behind Code Camp's growth. Our plans to launch new programs specifically designed and optimized for after-school delivery highlight our commitment to this vertical. The fast growth in both markets signifies our ability to connect and resonate with our audience, and we are committed to maintaining this momentum. Our commitment to reach profitability has led us to successfully implement a meaningful cost restructuring initiative. This initiative has led us to a reduction in FTEs from 237 to 155, representing a 35% reduction since the beginning of the financial year. Through these changes, we have achieved annualized employment cost savings of around $5 million in FY '24. Worth remembering that these reduction in FTEs have been enabled by a strategic investment in product and tech. Our focus on automation and self-service features has allowed us to streamline operations without sacrificing quality or efficiency. To view these as reflection as a critical step towards driving to profitability not merely as a cost saving measure, it is about making smarter use of our resources, investing where it matters most and setting ourselves up for continued success. Now I'm going to hand over to Greg to cover the detailed financial results.
Greg Fordred
executiveThanks, Matteo, and good morning, everyone. It's my pleasure to present the Cluey Group financial results for the full financial year of 2023. As Matteo mentioned earlier, FY '23 was a transformative period for Cluey, where we shifted our focus from rapid growth to driving to profitability. This shift in focus resulted in a reprioritization of customer acquisition investment and the implementation of significant cost-saving initiatives. At the same time, we continued our investment in product and technology, which is delivering benefits of efficiency and cost savings, whilst also providing significant improvements to student and tutor experience. The benefit of these initiatives delivered a 46% improvement in Q4 FY '23 underlying EBITDA and provides the foundation for significant improvement in FY '24 financial performance. Let's start with a recap of FY '23. Included on this slide are the key metrics for the Cluey Group, which includes the Cluey Learning and Code Camp operating divisions. Code Camp was acquired on the 1st of October 2021 and is included in the prior corresponding period result for 9 months from that date. All metrics on this snapshot are consolidated metrics. Starting at the bottom left-hand side of the slide, variable CAC is the customer acquisition cost to acquire a new student. This includes digital media spend, brand spend and the cost of our sales team. In FY '23, CAC per new student reduced by 18% on the PCP to $352. Whilst at the same time, we increased the number of new students by 24%. The Cluey Group lifetime value to CAC ratio improved by 4% to 2.9x in FY '23. This means that on average, for every new customer we acquire at an average cost of $352, we will generate over $1,000 of lifetime value after paying for tutor and teacher costs. The number of active Cluey Learning tutors and Code Camp teachers in June 2023 [Technical Difficulty] was over 2,900. We're often asked if we experience supply side challenges in recruiting tutors and teachers, and I'm happy to advise that at our current scale of operations, we're not experiencing any issues. By way of an example, in Cluey Learning, we receive, on average, over 2,200 applications a month. In FY '23, we implemented several initiatives to optimize tutor allocation, reduce costs and implement efficiencies resulting in the reduction in the average tutor/teacher cost by 6% on the PCP. As mentioned in previous investor presentations, we continue increasing our tutor recruitment efforts in New Zealand. We're able to recruit quality New Zealand tutors at a lower rate than our existing Australian tutors. This not only opens up additional supply, but is also driving gross profit margin improvement. In FY '23, on a combined basis, Cluey Learning and Code Camp delivered just under 600,000 student sessions, an increase of 11% on the prior corresponding period. The 4 metrics on the right-hand side of the slide demonstrates the continuing improvement in unit economics achieved in FY '23 compared to the prior corresponding period. an increase of 11% in session numbers delivered a 15% increase in revenue and a 24% increase in gross profit. In FY '23, we delivered a 20% improvement in underlying EBITDA. I'll talk about this in more detail shortly. The chart on the left illustrates the growth in active students from FY '19 onwards. In FY '23, Cluey had over 58,000 active students, an increase of 31% on FY '22. Since FY '19, active students have increased by a compound annual growth rate of 137%. The chart on the right illustrates the combined group student sessions made up of Cluey Learning tutoring sessions and student attendance days at Code Camp school holiday and after-school programs. In FY '23, students completed nearly 600,000 sessions, an 11% increase on PCP and a compound annual growth rate of 140% since FY '19. As previously mentioned, in FY '23, we deliberately deprioritized marketing spend in order to preserve cash, resulting in a slowing of the growth rate in new students and student sessions. Since 2018, Cluey has now delivered over 1.5 million student sessions. As mentioned earlier, variable CAC is the customer acquisition cost to acquire a new student. This includes the digital media spend, brand spend and the cost of our sales team. In FY '23, the group variable CAC per new student improved by 18% on FY '22 to $352. This represents an average of 9 sessions payback to recover CAC after funding tutor and teacher costs, down from 13 sessions payback in FY '22. As mentioned earlier, given the focus on driving to profitability, in FY '23, we prioritized investment in Code Camp customer acquisition due to the shorter payback period in Code Camp versus Cluey Learning. When parents enroll students in Code Camp programs, we typically receive payment for the program upfront, whereas with Cluey, we incur the cost upfront to acquire the student and only receive revenue on a session-by-session basis as the student consumes tutoring. On average, the CAC payback for Code Camp programs is around 1.5 months. This compares to around 8 months payback for Cluey Learning. With Code Camp sessions accounting for 21% of total group sessions in FY '23, up from 10% in FY '22, the average number of months to recover CAC from -- for the group reduced from 10 months in FY '22 to 5 months in FY '23. It is worth noting that whilst lifetime revenue, lifetime value and CAC is lower for Code Camp compared to Cluey Learning, the group lifetime value to CAC ratio increased from 2.8x in FY '22 to 2.9x in FY '23. In FY '23, Cluey delivered gross profit of $22.5 million, an increase of 24% on FY '22 and had a record gross profit margin of 57%, an increase of 8% on FY '22 gross profit margin of 53%. This improvement in margin was a result of an increase in average revenue per session to $66 and a reduction in average tutor/teacher cost per session to $28. Average revenue per session increased by 3%, primarily due to price increases offset by an increasing proportion of Code Camp sessions at around a 3% lower revenue per session. Average tutor/teacher costs decreased by 6%, resulting from targeted initiatives aimed at optimizing tutor recruitment and allocation, reducing costs and implementing efficiencies. In FY '23, the group continued to achieve improved operating leverage from continued growth in annual revenue and a strong cost control focus. Direct marketing expenses of $12.3 million were consistent with FY '22. In FY '23, direct marketing expenses represented 31% of revenue down from 35% in FY '22. General and administration expenses in FY '23 increased by 4% on FY '22, but remained flat year-on-year at 14% of revenue. In FY '23, employment costs increased by 1% to $18.7 million from $18.5 million in FY '22. Full-time equivalent employees decreased by 82%, which is 35% from a high of 237 in July 2022 to 155 in June 2023. This reduction was facilitated by a cost reduction plan implemented throughout 2023, coupled with product and technology-led enhancements to the learning environment, self-service automation and operating efficiencies. In FY '23, employment costs represented 48% of revenue, down from 55% in FY '22. The full impact of the cost-saving initiatives implemented in Q3 FY '23 will flow into FY '24. As illustrated in the call out in the chart on the right-hand side, you can see the benefit of the cost control focus on the Q4 FY '23 result, where employment costs as a percentage of revenue continued to decrease to 40% and G&A reduced to 13%. In this slide, we summarized the consolidated financial results for FY '23. As mentioned previously, revenue increased 15% to $39.4 million. Gross profit increased 24% to $22.5 million whilst the gross profit margin increased 8% to 57%. Total operating costs for the year increased 3% to $36.6 million, noting that the full benefit of the cost saving initiatives that were implemented only partially flowed into the second half of FY '23. The full impact of the cost saving and margin improvement initiatives implemented will flow into FY '24. Underlying EBITDA for FY '23 improved 20% to negative $14.2 million. The waterfall chart on the left illustrates the financial results presented in the table on the previous slide, demonstrating the positive and negative variances compared to the prior corresponding period. The improvement in underlying EBITDA from a $17.7 million loss in FY '22 to a $14.2 million loss in FY '23 was primarily the result of increased revenue whilst maintaining our cost base. The chart on the right illustrates the same metrics, but for the fourth quarter only. This chart demonstrates the benefits of the shift in focus from rapid growth to profitability. The improvement in underlying EBITDA in Q4 FY '23 compared to the PCP was driven by a $1.2 million reduction in employment costs, $700,000 reduction in tutor and teacher cost, $300,000 in marketing savings and $100,000 in admin and other savings. In FY '23, Cluey shifted focus from rapid growth to profitability. As you can see from this chart, in each quarter of FY '23, the company delivered an improvement in underlying EBITDA compared to the PCP. In Q4 FY '23, underlying EBITDA improved by 46% on the PCP, following a range of cost savings and margin improvement initiatives implemented during FY '23. The full impact of those cost savings and margin improvement initiatives will flow in FY '24. I'll now hand back to Matteo who will speak to the FY '24 key initiatives and outlook. Thank you.
Matteo Trinca
executiveThank you, Greg. Our focus for FY '24 is twofold. First, we want to drive the business to our profitability as we have repeated several times in this presentation so far. And second, we want to lay down the strategic foundation for our next growth cycle. Our vision is clear. We want to become the trusted destination for out-of-school learning. So how do we plan on accomplishing this vision? There are 5 pillars to our strategy, and I'm going to explain each 1 of them in the current slide and in the following slides. First pillar is about extending Cluey's platform advantage. Product and tech is at the core of our strategy. We're not planning to just maintain our competitive advantage, but it's something we're aiming to extend. I've seen programs offering an avenue for growth and product variations. We aim to strengthen our market leading position in this space and regularly launch new programs. And world is increasingly run by generative AI, we stand in a unique position to take advantage of its technology power for educational benefit. This is a space we want to lead. Our journey toward profitability is well underway, and we are committed to responsible capital allocation, great progress we achieved in FY '23 and more will follow in FY '24. And finally, what began as a small U.K. trial, has set the stage for our continued international growth. We expect these to become a significant driving force in the coming years. These pillars will provide a business clarity for FY '24. They are the framework we will follow, and I'll deep dive into each 1 in the next few slides. Our aim is to be an omnipresent force in out-of-school learning, catering to the diverse and ever-changing needs of families. This involves offering a range of curriculum aligned and co-extracurricular options that combine both utility and innovation. What does this look like in practice? Let's consider a typical family with 3 school age children. [ Sophie ] needing extra [ help in marks ] can find [ questionnaires ] while also having the opportunity to explore passion for interior design. Rob, an aspiring coder can cultivate practical skills through our innovative after-school coding courses. And finally, Brian, targeting a high [indiscernible] and a career in civil engineering can take advantage of our specialized HSC preparation. These diverse offerings not only illustrate the flexibility and usability of our combined Cluey and Code Camp services, but also signal our commitment to future readiness. We're not just meeting today's educational needs, we are shaping tomorrow's creators. To realize our vision, we're shifting our focus towards seamlessly integrating the various learning experiences across our platforms and services. We've laid a strong foundation with a robust learning system, encompassing an interactive live learning environment to the hub focus on quality instruction and a customer hub designed for enhanced teaching and learning experiences. Our programs are fully aligned to the Australian and New Zealand curriculum, complemented by diverse co-extracurricular options. We have designed an independent practice environment for students to use between sessions. So what's next? Firstly, we're working on a unified brand architecture. The new brand solution will consolidate our diverse range of offerings under 1 umbrella, promoting cross-selling activity and further CAC reductions. Secondly, the Cluey Hub will serve as a comprehensive gateway with an open sign-up, aimed at reducing entry by years and offering a welcoming initial experience for potential customers. Lastly, we're creating pathways to paid services by offering valuable instructory services that resonate with multiple audiences. We're not just building trust here but also creating opportunities for upselling premium and paid services. So it's all about seamless integration to boost engagement and broaden our customer base. Let's shift our focus to our newly updated pricing model, specifically designed to cater to the diverse needs of our customers in terms of service configuration and payment options. We've introduced a flexible pricing structure. These allow users to fine-tune their service according to their unique needs. You want more flexibility, you can have it at a slightly higher price point. If you're looking for a more economical option or okay with less flexibility for cancellation or pausing sessions, it got you covered as well. For our tutors, these changes mean greater stability. By implementing notice periods and clear payment terms, we're creating a more predictable and manageable framework for our educators. So what's the goal here? Our target is to boost 3 key performance indicators. Session completion rates, session frequency and consequently, customer attention. We have initiated these changes in July and August and the early results are promising, validating our approach. It's a win-win for everyone. We're offering tailored options to our customers while maintaining a reliable framework for our tutors. One of the highlights on our road map is our strategic investment in STEM programs. We have ambitious plans here to roll out new programs aimed at helping students explore their passions with a special emphasis on science, technology, engineering, arts and mathematics. We're not just talking about standard class in experiences. We design our courses to be highly immersive, limiting class sizes to 16 students to ensure that our dedicated teachers and tutors can provide personalized attention. but it's not just about class and time. Our programs integrate hands-on applications and include digital extensions, giving students a comprehensive learning experience. We see these as just the beginning. We're confident that our diverse offerings in this field can both accelerate our company's growth and inspire our students. We're not merely supplementing traditional education here, we are providing a rich holistic experience that enables students to deep dive into their passion. In FY '24, we're going to take analytics capabilities to the next level by integrating Open AI's GPT technology. This fusion of AI and human expertise aims to change personalized learning, providing instant insights and expanding our service offerings. Our unique advantage lies in our wealth of data and we do have a lot of data. The data that we have is for -- is from over 1.5 million tutoring sessions. The data includes session transcripts, learning goals and reflections done by students and tutors at the beginning and the end of each session. We have detailed understanding of what content has been used during the session. We also track student performance during practice sessions. We collect points and student's feedback. And finally, we have the video and audio feeds from our live sessions. Additionally, a well-documented service processes such as our teaching method, how we enroll students and the related information used to configure the service, they all contribute to our readiness programs for AI integration. In relation to our future road map, we do know there is a lot to do here, and our approach is focused on delivering incremental improvements to our service while also learning such a new technology. One of our earliest application is to roll out AI power features to better configure our service to the size and request of our customers. By incorporating these AI-powered features, we're not just enhancing our customer current service, but we're setting the stage for advancement in personalized education. This topic will become a recurring business update in our presentation to the market going forward. Our diversified portfolio services gives us flexibility in how we manage our P&L and growth strategy. We're now forced to put all our eggs into 1 basket. Immediate revenue streams like Code Camp, longer-term investments including learning and an optimized overhead structure, create a balanced approach to revenue generation and profitability. Our holiday and after-school programs are great offerings, requiring minimum marketing through a needed ROI and upfront cash payments, easy working capital requirements. Our tutoring division demands upfront tech, but promises a robust ongoing revenue stream. Though costly to say, the larger upside lies in higher lifetime value and long-term customer relationships. We can accelerate growth here once the business hits profitability. Our lean overheads allow us to scale efficiently. This structure can accommodate additional business units without increasing costs. M&A activity and growth capital are levers that we can opportunistically consider when they accelerate our plans and provide shareholder value. When it comes to international potential, we are just scratching the surface here. We have a proven blueprint, what we're building in Australia would be the playbook for other markets. We have successfully entered the U.K. and New Zealand markets organically. 5% of our total revenues come from outside of Australia. We have done it in less than 24 months and completed bootstrapped. Our proven domestic model and early successes abroad, offer a powerful springboard for seizing opportunities in new and existing markets. Now we're ready for Q&A.
Mark Rohald
executive[Operator Instructions] [indiscernible] Can you talk about your price increases and whether that has slowed you down, $50 to $70 is a big increase. I'm going to hand over to Matteo to talk about this because I -- Matteo, I think we just need to clarify exactly what our price range is. And what we're seeing in the market in terms of the new prices that we launched, where we give customers the flexibility to choose the plan that works best for them.
Matteo Trinca
executiveYes. Mark, do you mind going back to the slide for the pattern plan, so maybe I can have it on the screen here. Yes. So basically, the -- prior to the release of this pricing model, we were offering a single price, which was $85 for all one-to-one sessions and $60 for group sessions. So the new pricing plan very much focuses on 1 to 1. And the change of price, it's not as related to the question or described in the question. So $85 is what customers could access up to the end of June. From beginning of July, customers can now opt for a price range from $70 to $90 depending on the requirements around flexibility. So the Flexi plan, which is $90 per session allows customers to cancel session with at least 48 hours' notice, and they can pause their enrollment any time. for that flexibility that pays a lot of higher price than the previous plan, but also [ severance ] of a plus plan. When customers are happy to commit to ongoing sessions with Cluey and are happy to sacrifice some of that flexibility when it comes to canceling a session or pausing sessions, then it can tap into a cheaper price, which is actually lower than the price that we had an offer after the end of June. So a Saver plan is $75 per session and a Saver Plus is $70 per session. The main difference between the Saver Plus and Saver is the notice period and the payment terms. They both are same. On the Saver, it's 2 weeks in advance and 2 weeks notice; For the Saver Plus, it's 4 weeks in advance and 4 weeks notice.
Mark Rohald
executiveThank you, Matteo. I think that answers Ed's question. We have a question that's come in from Rob Bruce. Rob's question is, was the fourth quarter reflective of our current costs? Or if not, what is the likely EBITDA loss in the first quarter? I assume that's of FY '24, Once the full benefit of the cost reductions have been achieved. Greg, would you mind if I hand that over to you?
Greg Fordred
executiveYes. I'm happy to take that. Thanks, Mark. In terms of the employment cost savings, the majority of those cost savings were taken out ahead of Q4, but there were some incremental cost savings, and we will continue to see efficiency gains, particularly from the product and tech initiatives that have been implemented. So from an employment cost, we would expect it to slightly reduce into the forward -- into the future quarters. From a marketing spend, that's a lever that we have at our disposal. So we can choose to pull down marketing costs more. That will result in fewer new students and ultimately slightly slower revenue growth, but will yield a saving in that quarter. So in terms of Q1, noting that we haven't provided the market with any guidance for FY '24, the expectation is that the Q1 EBITDA performance will be on par or better than the Q4 FY '23 performance.
Mark Rohald
executiveThanks, Greg. I think that answers Rob's question. At this stage, we have no other questions that have come in. So I'd like to thank -- there's one more, Olivia. Are you still on track to achieve previously stated Cluey Learning sessions in FY '24 to achieve breakeven in the fourth quarter of '24.
Greg Fordred
executiveSo I'm happy to take that, Mark. So the previously stated Cluey Learning sessions, that number has now reduced as a result of further cost savings that we've taken out of the business. So -- but to answer the question, yes, we are still on track to get to EBITDA positive in the fourth quarter of FY '24 with a lower Cluey Learning student session number than we previously provided.
Mark Rohald
executiveThank you, Greg. I think that brings us to the end of today's session. I'd like to thank the presenters for handling all the questions. And sorry, there is just one more that's coming from Ed, a late question for Ed. We'll make this the last question. Code Camp appears to be driving growth. Will this be the focus of expansion going forward? For example, will you open Code Camp in New Zealand next? How much bigger can this grow in the U.K. So Matteo, maybe I'm going to hand over to you to handle it. So do you see the question, Matteo?
Matteo Trinca
executiveYes, yes, I can see the question.
Mark Rohald
executiveYou've got this in front of you. Okay. So if you wouldn't mind answering the elements of that question, please.
Matteo Trinca
executiveYes. So it's -- I think I mentioned in one of the slides about the diversification of our portfolio services. And in the context of the first part of your question, which is around it could be going to be the focus of the expansion. I think the way we want to focus our growth in our future plans is around a balanced approach between all different services and business models that we can benefit from. So Code Camp is definitely the focus of the expansion, but so is Cluey. And I think the -- how the 2 are working together is really the key advantage that we can leverage given that diversified portfolio of services that we have today. And going to your second part of your question around opening in New Zealand next and how much bigger can this grow in the U.K. I think we can definitely go to New Zealand, where we have in our -- in our long list of ideas to do it sort of our priorities. And at the moment, it is there. It's not been prioritized just yet, but we're definitely, as I mentioned before, we do have a blueprint that's been validated in Australia. We do want to solidify that blueprint with a unified brand architecture. Once we do that, we will be ready to take 2 other markets that blueprint in a consistent way. In terms of how far the U.K. can go around revenue, we do believe we can go last order that we have today, and we already see some of the numbers in the current financial year, they are quite strong. And how far it can go, it really depends on how much we really focus on that market? It's a large market. It is essentially bigger than Australia when it comes to number of students and when it comes to a number of schools. So these 20,000 primary schools in that market versus just more than 5,000 in the local market here. So the U.K. has got a great product market fit. We do know how to access it. We are catering it quite well. We got the size, and we haven't even launched the rest of our product offering over there. So we're optimistic about the U.K. prospects.
Mark Rohald
executiveThanks, Matteo. Again, thank you, everybody, for attending today's session. Thank you to the presenters, and we look forward to speaking in the next few days. Thank you very much, everybody.
Matteo Trinca
executiveThank you.
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