Cogent Communications Holdings, Inc. (CCOI) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 30, 2022

NASDAQ US Communication Services conference_presentation 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#1

All right. All right. Thank you everyone for joining us today. I'm Sami Badri with Credit Suisse Equity Research. We have Dave Schaeffer, the CEO and Founder of Cogent Communications. Dave, thank you for joining us.

David Schaeffer

executive
#2

Thanks for having me, Sami, and thank you investors for their time and Credit Suisse for a great venue.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#3

Absolutely. Dave, I want to kick things off with you and discuss a little bit about Cogent, but more specifically, how Cogent is actually changing, right? Because you guys have announced a fairly large acquisition, so maybe we could kind of discuss that the merits of the transaction, the direction you're going with the company?

David Schaeffer

executive
#4

Yes, sure. So let's start with kind of classic Cogent and the core business. In our corporate business, we have seen improvements, albeit slow and less even geographically than we had hoped. We're seeing increased corporate activity, increased office leasing activity increased employees returning to office. And as a result, our corporate business, which has averaged 11% year-over-year growth for 17 years organically, had declined to a negative 8% year-over-year growth rate at the trough of the pandemic. We're now back to a slightly positive, about 0.5% growth rate, and we're seeing continued improvement. In our NetCentric business, where we're selling to other service providers that business has actually accelerated throughout the pandemic and continues to outperform. Our growth rate has averaged 9% year-over-year. Going into the pandemic, we were only growing at 3%. That business accelerated all the way to 25.5% year-over-year growth. And now last quarter grew 16.5% on a year-over-year basis. So just to remind investors, 53% -- or excuse me, 57% of our revenues come from corporate users, 43% come from NetCentric users. And our business is transforming with the acquisition of Sprint GMG, we're acquiring that business from T-Mobile. It was the first nationwide fiber optic network. At the time of deal signing, there was approximately $560 million of revenue, 28 products were supported and about 1,400 customers. As part of the transaction, T-Mobile is end-of-lifing 24 of those 28 products as they are subscale and gross margin negative. We anticipate a closing having about $450 million in revenues, 1,200 large enterprise customers. And what Cogent is acquiring is a 19,000 route mile fiber optic network in North America, Intercity and another 1,300 miles of metropolitan network. That network then is connected to 1,300 pieces of real estate, 47 of which are significant and will be converted to data centers, totaling about 1.3 million square feet of technical space and about 150 megawatts of power. In order to effect this transaction, T-Mobile is paying Cogent $700 million in cash to acquire the asset. The company today is burning cash. The current cash burn rate is about $300 million between signing and closing the restructurings, including unprofitable product elimination, we'll reduce that burn rate to about a negative $180 million of EBITDA. We will quickly migrate traffic onto the Cogent network in metro over a 2-year period, we can save $180 million in local access costs. We will eliminate a leased international network, resulting in an additional $25 million in savings. And for Cogent, we will terminate an IRU that was prepaid, but we have maintenance obligations on it with Lumen saving an additional $15 million. But the real, I think, advantage of this transaction is twofold. One, allowing Cogent to serve a new customer base, very large enterprises, that's really a market where Cogent has not participated historically. Those customers have an average relationship life with Sprint and T-Mobile of over 30 years. And then secondly, and maybe even much more importantly, is repurposing the asset. The network was originally built to procure a long distance voice. It has been undermanaged and underinvested in, and we will be able to convert that to one, carry or Internet traffic; and 2, to sell optical transport networking services or wavelengths. That is a brand-new market for Cogent. We anticipate taking the $8 million run rate in Sprint today and growing that to about $500 million over a 5- to 7-year period. That is a $2 billion addressable market, and we will have some distinct competitive advantages. One, we will have over 800 carrier-neutral data centers in North America, where we can offer those services to over 90% of the route pathing is geographically unique and therefore, provides diversity. And maybe most importantly, we have a 225 person sales force that focuses on this market segment and can use existing relationships with hyperscalers and regional access networks to sell these services. So the combination of the $700 million payment from T-Mobile over a 54-month period and this incremental high-margin opportunity really is transformational. Cogent at closing will be about $650 million in revenue. We will grow to $1.1 billion with the acquired Sprint revenues. And within 5 years, be at $1.5 billion. EBITDA margins will decline from the 39.4% we delivered last quarter to probably somewhere around low to mid-30s within 5 years. The growth rate of the combined company will moderate to 5% to 7%, and we should be able to deliver 100 basis points a year of margin expansion, so larger scale, more cash flow, cash flow accretive from day 1, product diversification and real asset ownership are all key attributes.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#5

Got it. Got it. Thank you for running through that. I want to double-click through the corporate customer segment, a return to growth in 3Q of '22. And one thing is we -- at least all of investors that are focused on Cogent and specifically the segment are trying to understand, what KPIs are you looking to track? And how are those KPIs changing that are signaling the direction of that business?

David Schaeffer

executive
#6

Yes. So Cogent today has about 15% penetration in its corporate footprint. We did see vacancy rates in that footprint during the pandemic increase from 6% to 18%. They have slightly improved to 17.7%, and we're continuing to see leasing activity. We're also monitoring employee entry into the building as measured by security badge swipes. But I think what's most important for Cogent's revenue is the level of customer engagement, the number of proposals that are issued, the number of proposals that are converting into orders, what we are seeing is many IT departments, finally moving forward with architectural reengineering that they've been putting off for 2 years as they didn't really understand what the new normal would look like. This means increasing Internet connectivity, adding diverse points for remote employee aggregation, replacing MPLS networks with VPLS or SD-WAN services. And it's -- this higher level of customer proposals and new orders that's most encouraging. Another KPI that's an important indicator is our ability to grow our sales force and reduce turnover rates in that sales force, coupled with higher productivity. And last quarter, we actually had the highest level of sales force growth in the company's history in a single quarter. We continue to have a robust candidate funnel, but most importantly, with our employees returning to office, we've seen employee productivity increase and therefore, lower turnover rates.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#7

Got it. Got it. I wanted to go through from an ARPU perspective. How do you -- what does the price scheme look like from 100 megabytes to 1-gig, 10-gig, et cetera? And like what are the typical customers that buy the 10-gig speed?

David Schaeffer

executive
#8

Yes. So for our corporate customers, they buy a fixed connection. It is an all you can eat symmetric, non-oversubscribed and non-block service. We offer contract terms ranging from as short as month-to-month as long as 5 years. The most common contract is a 3-year contract for corporate customers. And those customers are buying a 1 gigabit connection. Typically, for about $600 a month, the 100-megabit connection, which had been the previously most common product several years ago, has been end of life, and we're phasing those out with over 90% of the customers buying 1-gig or larger connections. And then we are seeing an increased interest level in 10 gigabit corporate connections. Typically, that's sold at 4x the price of a 1 gigabit connection, so about $2,500 a month. The customers that will buy that product tend to be financial services companies, that are not very price sensitive, but want to buy the very best that is available in the market. Now as connection sizes have increased, the average corporate utilization of those connections has actually declined. When the majority of our customer base was on a 100-meg connection, the average corporate customer was using about 18% of that at peak or about 18 megabits. As the market shifted to a 1 gigabit connection, we've seen the average peak utilization fall to about 9%. So while the average customers' utilization went from 18 to 90 megabits per second, the percentage of the pipe they're buying is declining. That same trend exists in 10-gig connections with most corporate customers having very low total utilization.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#9

Got it. Got it. I want to shift gears back to the Sprint GMG acquisition. It's projected or aimed to close at some point next year. And one thing that we've all been really trying to understand is, can you speak to why you believe that Cogent's ability to reverse the asset decline or at least sorry, the assets course of revenue growth. Why do you believe that it's going to stop declining once it's actually integrated into Cogent's business?

David Schaeffer

executive
#10

So again, as background, this is a business that in 2002, had 70, 000 and $40 billion in revenue and was primarily a long-distance company. That company was under contract to be sold to MCI for $129 billion. That transaction was blocked by regulators. Sprint's management shifted its focus after that regulatory setback and almost exclusively focused on its wireless business for 20 years. That GMG business as voice disappeared had declined from that roughly $40 billion run rate to $560 million. It had been underinvested and undermanaged. We look at this and see 2 key assets: one, the 1,200 large enterprise customers that we're acquiring. We do not believe we can grow the revenue from those customers, but we do believe we can retain them. They have an average relationship with the company of 30.5 years. Most of those customers had gone through multiple technology transitions from X.25 to frame relate to MPLS and are now being converted to a virtual private line or VPLS service. We will increase their port capacity by 10x. We will migrate those customers to on-net where practical. Today, the 93% of the revenue in that business is off-net. And Cogent, 75% of our revenues are on-net, only 25% off-net. So by bringing those customers on-net, we will increase the reliability and the throughput without increasing the cost. We do not believe we can grow that customer base materially, but we can maintain it. The real growth opportunity in buying this business is the value-add repurposing of the network. So liking it to an office building that was built for office purposes and is completely vacant and is now being converted to residential or hotel use, what we are doing is taking a fiber optic network that was built with SMF-28, which turns out to be optimal fiber for coherent transmission, which is today's standard for 100- and 400-gig transmission and repurposing that. So the transition has 4 discrete phases. Phase 1, we will take all of the traffic off of the Sprint network and put that on to the Cogent network. Today, Cogent carries about an Exabyte a day of traffic. Sprint carries about 10 petabytes or about 1%. Step 2, we will take that look pair of fibers and use that exclusively to sell wavelength services, that is a $2 billion addressable market. We have a sales force that can focus on that market, and we can increase the endpoints where that service is available from 23 endpoints at Sprint today to 800 by tying the metro networks together with the Sprint Intercity network. Third, we will then light a second pair of fibers on the -- on the Sprint network to support the Cogent IP business. And then we will sell off the excess fiber that's available the routes have anywhere from 24 to 144 strand count depending on the segment. And then the fourth and final phase will be repurposing this 1.3 million square feet of technical space, which today is generating no revenue into useful data center space by integrating it into our network and by selling into it. That will allow us to generate incremental revenue with no incremental cost. Again, it's an asset repurposing. And to de-risk this, we're being paid by T-Mobile to effectively transition the business $700 million.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#11

Yes. Actually, about that $700 million, can we just walk through the puts, takes and whether or not it's going to be recognized as revenue, the way if it's just going to be recognized as a cash payment to recognize somewhere else? Can we just kind of go through how we should be thinking about that?

David Schaeffer

executive
#12

Yes. So the most important thing is the cash coming in the door. It's asymmetrically front-end loaded. So we get $350 million over the first 12 and $29 million monthly installments. And then over the next 42 months, we get $9 million a month installments bringing us to the total of $700 million. Above and beyond those payments, we get an additional $25 million from T-Mobile for any employee severance post-closing, and we get an additional $100 million indemnification if there are any unforeseen liabilities. When T-Mobile acquired Sprint, it focused its due diligence on the wireless business. And for that reason, we could not count on their due diligence when we're acquiring the wireline business. Now in terms of how we account for that payment of cash, our goal is to account for it as revenue, but we cannot be certain of that. The way the deal is structured is, we are providing transit ports to T-Mobile. Those ports will be available day 1 for them to us. They have indicated at this time, they have no interest in using that capacity, but they will evaluate that every quarter. In order to pass the FASB revenue recognition cast, there are really 2 parts to that test. One, was the service really provided? And the answer is yes. We have provisioned the ports, whether they use them or not is really their decision, much like if you buy cable TV service, you pay your cable bill, whether you turn your TV on or not over the course of the month. The second is, was the service sold at a market price. We have given them a most favored customer pricing halls. We will have a third-party study that evaluates that. Now we try to get a firm commitment from our auditors, Ernst & Young. We could count it as revenue. They were unwilling to make that commitment at this time. For that reason, we structured the transaction as a standalone sister subsidiary to our operating company. It is our belief that we will be able to count it as revenue, but we don't have that guarantee until we get a signed audit opinion, and that probably won't happen until early '24. So what we are certain about is the cash payments, what we are not certain about is does it count as revenue and, therefore, EBITDA.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#13

Got it. Following the cash is obviously the key to that $700 million. And then I wanted to shift gears over to NetCentric, right? We've seen 2 years of robust growth and robust demand from consumers and streaming companies have been some of the key kind of drivers of that strength. But as we start to see streaming companies provide less strength or less robust forecasts in their business or even reported numbers, how do you think that's going to manifest itself into Cogent's results and forecast?

David Schaeffer

executive
#14

So we saw a rapid transition in the movement from linear television to streaming. That had been occurring pre-pandemic from basically 0% of video being streamed in 2013 to by 2019, 18% of all video in the developed world was streamed. Today, that's over 44%. So we saw a material acceleration in that transition during the pandemic. That 44% is continuing to increase, but at a more normalized rate. We are also seeing streaming adoption much more robust internationally than domestically. We are also seeing a much larger number of entrants in the market. That actually has boded well for Cogent because that vulcanization of the demand allows us to charge a higher price per bit. We also get higher pricing internationally than we do domestically. And finally, we have seen the percentage of traffic that we're getting paid both by the sender and receiver increase from 50% to 73%. All of those factors accelerated the growth in NetCentric from 3% in 2019 to a peak of 25.5% year-over-year at the height of the pandemic. But even as the pandemic has waned, we are continuing to see outsized performance in that business, growing at 16.5% last quarter, effectively similar growth the quarter before that. We believe that we will eventually revert to kind of a 9% long-term average growth rate, but that reversion appears to be slower than we had originally expected. So all in all, we feel even though the streaming providers are struggling to be profitable because of their outsized expenses on content production there's still plenty of demand, plenty of eyeballs globally and plenty of minutes that can move from linear to streaming.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#15

Got it. Got it. Thanks for going through that. One thing I want to hit is the slowing growth rate of your dividend that you introduced and reported in 3Q of '22, could we go through the puts and takes and tell us what -- I guess, the reason, why I'm asking this question is, because your dividend growth has been consistent for so long, you've kind of gotten us calibrated on that expectation, but it kind of slowed down and want to take -- I want to go through that with you?

David Schaeffer

executive
#16

So over the long run, the growth rate in the dividend has to mirror the growth rate and free cash flow. Cogent initially started with a $0.01 sequential growth rate. It then accelerated to $0.02 and then $0.25, and our EBITDA growth over the past 41 quarters since we've been issuing a dividend and growing it has been about 14%, and our dividend growth rate has been about 13%, an alignment. With the pandemic, Cogent's top line growth rate decelerated from 10% to 5%, our EBITDA growth decelerated from 15% to about 6%. And as a result and the fact that the impact of the pandemic has been more prolonged than we expected, we felt it was prudent to lower the growth rate in the dividend to $0.01 a quarter or basically 5% year-over-year, bringing it back in alignment with the growth in free cash flow, as that growth rate begins to reaccelerate as top line growth accelerates and margins expand, we will reevaluate the growth rate and the dividend. Our leverage is slightly ahead of our targeted range at 3.8% versus or 3.8x versus the 2.5x to 3.5x range, and we've outlined and by slowing the rate in dividend growth, we will bring that leverage ratio back down within our targets. So it all seems prudent. But Cogent is truly unique among public companies and having an over 10-year history, 41 quarters of sequential dividend growth. I think there's only been 6 companies in history, public companies have had that rate of dividend growth pacing.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#17

Got it. Got it. I wanted to kind of wrap up the fireside chat, but anything on your mind that you think we should express that we didn't cover?

David Schaeffer

executive
#18

I think the one topic I would touch on is a leading indicator. You touched on our own KPIs, and that is our ability to grow our sales force, improve the retention rate of those salespeople and improve their productivity. That is a key area of growth for the company. I often get asked by investors, what do I worry about and its sales, Cogent is about 1,050 employees, 750 are in sales, 300 operations. Sprint was 1,320 employees, probably 1,000 at closing, of which only 60 are in sales. So our effort is going to be to reduce the operational headcount and increase the sales headcount and increase the productivity of the salespeople. So we feel very comfortable that there are plenty of candidates. We have the right addressable market, the right value proposition for customers and now that we're back in the office, the ability to make those people productive quickly. So we're feeling pretty optimistic about where we're at.

Ahmed Sami Badri

analyst
#19

Got it. Got it. Well, Dave, thank you very interest spending time with us and attending our conference, and thanks for everyone in the room for attending.

David Schaeffer

executive
#20

Hey, thanks for having me, Sami. Thank you all very much.

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