Cogent Communications Holdings, Inc. (CCOI) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 4, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Michael Rollins
analystWell, good afternoon, and welcome back to Citi's 2023 Communications Media and Entertainment Conference. For those of you I haven't met, I'm Mike Rollins, and I cover the communications services and infrastructure categories within Citi. Before we get started, I'd like to just mention that we do have disclosures available at the registration desk and on the Citi Velocity page, from which we're streaming the audio. And we're going to work to get your questions into today's discussion. Of course, we have the microphones around the room, but we also have a questions box on the website. And so if you have a question, you can enter it in there. And we're also going to continue the tradition of live audience surveys that are completely anonymous. We're just collecting up the responses, and you can access that through the placards and the information here on the table or on a box, it's going to come up on the website. So with all those details out of the way, I'd like to welcome back to the conference Dave Schaeffer, Founder Chairman and CEO of Cogent Communications. Dave, it's great to see you.
David Schaeffer
executiveMike, thanks for hosting me. I'd like to thank investors for taking time out of their busy day. And as always, thank Citi for a great venue. And I think rather than give any overview, focusing on Q&A is the best way to use our time, Mike.
Michael Rollins
analystWell, great. Well, maybe we'll just start with a high-level question of your strategic and operating priorities for the coming year, and if there are any notable changes from the past year, which given the activity for Cogent over the last few months, looking forward to your update on this.
David Schaeffer
executiveYes. So we do obviously have some significant work ahead of us in completing the acquisition of the Sprint GMG network. It's been nearly 17 years since Cogent has done an acquisition. And I was joking with one of my team members from actually the FirstMark acquisition. And I said, if I had told you we were going to acquire Sprint GMG 20 years ago when we acquired FirstMark, you probably would have quit in a heartbeat and thought I was delusional. It was the largest wireline network in the world at one point and a business that had $40 million -- $40 billion of revenue and 70,000 employees at peak. Now the business is much smaller today, but it's also a business that's lived with over 20 years of lack of attention that's attritted in terms of its scale and its profitability. And we have definitive agreement to acquire that business from T-Mobile. We also have kind of core Cogent, and we need to continue to reaccelerate our growth and return to the patterns that we've had in previous years. Cogent has had an organic growth rate for 17 years, averaging 10% a year. The pandemic hit that growth rate decelerated to 3% a year. It has reaccelerated slightly to about 5% last quarter on a year-over-year basis, but still half of our trend line. So we have 2 major strategic initiatives for 2023. The first of those is to complete the acquisition of Sprint GMG acquiring that business from T-Mobile and reducing the cash burn and repurposing the network to generate a positive cash flow by converting the network into a pure optical network that will carry either Internet traffic on one pair of fibers or optical transport or wavelength services and then sell off unused portions of the network. The second challenge for Cogent is to see our organic growth rate continue to improve while our NetCentric business has outperformed historical averages for much longer than we expected throughout the pandemic and continues to grow at substantially above historic rates. We are seeing finally an improvement in our corporate business, which is the larger portion of our revenue stream, 57% of revenues and rather than going from an 11% average grower declining to a negative 8% at the worst of the pandemic and now at least back to being a 1% positive growth business. We feel encouraged, but we need to do much better. And I think the market is improving, and we should be able to achieve those objectives this year.
Michael Rollins
analystI was going to introduce our first survey, which actually just follows on your comments on corporate. So we'll see what our audience thinks. So the first question, when will Cogent's Corporate segment revenue return to sustained positive quarterly sequential organic growth: 4Q '22, 1Q '23, 2Q '23, second half of '23 or 2024 and beyond? So we'll let this brew and see the responses come in. But before we get there, and maybe just touching on one of the first priorities you mentioned, which is Sprint acquisition. You've described a lot about how you're approaching this deal and the opportunities to get back to positive cash flow in this business to have this business grow through the projects that you were describing. Are there other underappreciated aspects of this in terms of capital and equipment that you're inheriting with this business or routes that you kind of hinted at earlier, that maybe you could sell off? Like what are some of the underappreciated aspects of this transaction?
David Schaeffer
executiveYes. I'm going to give you kind of 3 answers to that question, Michael. The first one is the physical fiber itself. There's 19,000 route miles of intercity fiber and 1,300 miles of metropolitan fiber. The cross-section of fiber strand count ranges from 24 to 144 fibers, depending on the city pairs in [ question ]. The fact that the fiber was buried 6 feet deep rather than a more modern network that would typically be 24 inches below grade and the fiber was encased in an armor jacket means that our network, while nearly 40 years old, has had fewer cuts than networks that are half its age. Most of the fiber in the ground today intercity was deployed in the late '90s, early 2000s. This network was deployed in the mid-1980s, but it has better loss characteristics and fewer splices than those more modern networks. The second thing that I think is underappreciated is the fact that the network was built with single-mode fiber 28 or SMF-28. So common fiber in the early '80s, it was argued that that fiber would become obsolete as transmission speeds increase. So the first commercial networks were async 565 or 0.5 gigabit a second networks. The SMF fiber actually performed very well up to about 40 gigabits per second. And when many companies were anticipating migrating to 100 gig, the fiber manufacturers Corning Lucent at the time, Sumitomo were all pushing non-zero dispersion-shifted fiber, and that was what was deployed in the late '90s and early 2000s. Well, as it turns out no equipment vendor was able to make a noncoherent 100-gig transmission system work. So all of the vendors, whether it be Ciena, Infinera, Cisco, Lucent, now Nokia, Fujitsu, NEC, all migrated to a coherent transmission technology. Coherent did not work on the non-zero dispersion-shifted fiber and actually performed better on the single-mode 28 fiber that was deployed. So what is old is new again. New networks are all being deployed with SMF-28, and that will continue to be the standard, I think, for the foreseeable future, as we're moving to 400, 800 gig and 1.2 terabit per wavelength networks. The second thing that I think is underappreciated in the Sprint network is the fact that the routes are unique to Sprint. Over 90% of the routes, no other provider shares the right of way while the endpoints are all of the major North American endpoints because this network was designed to connect all 168 ladders together to allow for tandem switching in each of the Sprint facilities. And because of that ubiquity, but the uniqueness of routing, for many of the purchasers of wavelength services, that diversity has tremendous value. I think the third asset that we are acquiring that is underappreciated are the 1,300 pieces of fee simple real estate that was owned by Sprint and now T-Mobile. Now these can range from shelters along railroad tracks that are just amplifier sites all the way up to 100,000-square-foot data centers. There are 47 significant facilities that comprise about a little over 400,000 square feet of raised floor space and have over 150 megawatts of conditioned power. These facilities are suitable for data center conversion. And today, Sprint is generating less than $1 million a year on colocation and power within their facilities. So we are going to repurpose those facilities increased Cogent's data center footprint from 54 facilities that we own today and 604,000 square feet to just under 1.1 million square feet and increase total power from 69 megawatts to over 220 megawatts. So I think it gives us a very large data center footprint, probably makes us probably the third largest operator of data centers in the country.
Michael Rollins
analystAnd are those facilities, are they really just connected by the Sprint network? Or are they -- do they have some degree of network density that creates a network effect?
David Schaeffer
executiveSo the answer is yes and no.
Michael Rollins
analystOkay.
David Schaeffer
executiveBecause the network was built primarily for voice initially, it always has connectivity to the Sprint backbone and typically, the 2 competitive carriers that would be in the facility are AT&T and Verizon because those 2 companies do not serve the wholesale market in any significant scale. We are in the process of building fiber from those Sprint facilities to Cogent facilities in each market. We have outlined the need to spend approximately $50 million of onetime CapEx in order to tie the networks together. By doing so, we will increase the number of endpoints where services can be sold. So today, Sprint is only interconnected to [ 24 ] carrier-neutral data centers in North America. Cogent is connected to over 800 carrier neutrals. Probably by the time the transaction closes late summer, early fall, we'll have virtually all of those 800 facilities available for the sale of services off of the Sprint backbone. That's really important because that allows us the greatest footprint for the sale of wavelengths of any carrier in North America. It's a market today that's dominated by Lumen and Zayo. And because we have a larger third-party data center footprint than any other provider, this should help us gain market share quickly.
Michael Rollins
analystGreat. So let's see what the survey results were. So in terms of when the corporate segment revenue will return to sustained positive quarterly sequential organic growth, there's a lot of words in there, 0 for 4Q; 25% for 1Q '23; roughly 50% for the second half of '23; and 25% in 2024 and beyond. So you mentioned earlier some of your observations about how the corporate market may be improving. If you could share more thoughts of what's happening in that segment and what you're seeing in terms of pipeline sales and the types of engagement with these corporate buildings that you connect to?
David Schaeffer
executiveSo Cogent today connects to about 1,850 skyscrapers in North America. That represents over 1 billion square feet of net rentable office space. There is a total North American inventory of about 9 billion square feet. So we're in just under 12% of the market. The vacancy rate and our footprint pre-pandemic was approximately 6%. That vacancy rate skyrocketed to 18%. It improved slightly at the end of third quarter to 17.7%. We anticipate continued but slow improvement in that vacancy footprint. But I think it's probably a 4- to 5-year process before we get back to pre-pandemic levels. In most recessions, it's usually new business formation that mops up excess supply. I do believe this time it's different. We have seen studies and have specific examples of buildings that both we're in and we've looked at where buildings are being repurposed for either residential or hospitality. It's estimated that approximately 10% of the market or about 900 million square feet will be converted. That will dramatically tighten the occupancy levels. Secondly, we've seen rents fall, and what is normally the pattern is tenants take advantage of those lower rents and more desirable buildings and move up market away from suburban B and C buildings to CBD A buildings. All of the third-party studies, Newmark, CBRE, Cushman & Wakefield, JLL, all support that, and we're seeing that as well. So I think the underlying occupancy is improving. The second factor is customers desire to modernize their networks. Many customers have procrastinated or postponed network modernization for 3 or 4 years because of the uncertainty of the pandemic. Pre-pandemic, companies would design their networks where 97% of employee work days were anticipated to be in the office, 3% were anticipated to be remote. The new design standard that companies are migrating to are 60% of work days in office, 40% in a remote environment. That has profound implications. It means you need a bigger connection at your primary aggregation point; two, it means more of your compute and storage has moved off-site; three, it's more likely that you will need a second hardened aggregation point, oftentimes in a data center, which is a brand-new opportunity for Cogent. And then on the negative side, many companies are reducing the number of offices that they are occupying. We just saw the headline today from Salesforce.com where they're cutting salesforce by 10%, but they are also reducing the number of offices. So rather than shrink the offices they remain in, they're just eliminating noncore locations. That, I think, is the more common pattern. And I think when companies 5 years ago, thought about office-to-office connectivity, they needed to have a highly secured VPN usually based on MPLS. Today, because they've now lived with an ad-hoc VPN for remote employees for the past 2 years using the Internet, I think most companies are now willing to accept an Internet-based VPN or just naked Internet connectivity for their office-to-office communications. So there's both pluses and minuses for Cogent, but when we package these things together, what we have seen is growth in our sales force. It was actually the fastest growth in a single quarter in the company's history in the third quarter. We've regained about half of the net number of salespeople we lost during the pandemic. We expect to continue to see improvement in fourth quarter and first quarter. And hopefully, by midyear, we'll be back at pre-pandemic sales force levels. We'll continue to grow from there in the latter part of the year, returning to that annualized 7% to 10% sales force growth number. Secondly, we have seen the number of proposals issued per rep accelerating. I think that means customers are now ready to make decisions. And then the third thing is we've seen the gestation period of those proposals shrink, so we're seeing a more rapid decision cycle. All in all, we're seeing good recovery. I'll comment now on the survey. We did return to positive growth in the fourth quarter. We have been very clear to investors, and I'm glad they listened to what we said, that we're uncertain if that's permanent, and we're just straight up from here. I think things feel pretty good. I think we are going to continue to see improvements. But after 2 plus -- 2.5 years of pandemic, I think we're realistic that the path is going to take longer and be bumpier than we expected. I think kind of the modal response at midyear for sustained growth is both realistic and probably a little bit conservative.
Michael Rollins
analystSo just to make sure we got all the details correct, you mentioned that you returned to positive growth in the fourth quarter?
David Schaeffer
executiveWe did.
Michael Rollins
analystSo...
David Schaeffer
executiveFourth quarter of last...
Michael Rollins
analyst'22, you were positive.
David Schaeffer
executiveWell. We were positive in third quarter.
Michael Rollins
analystRight. Yes. I wanted to make sure. Yes.
David Schaeffer
executiveYes. But that's very different than saying it's sustained.
Michael Rollins
analystYes. And mid of '23 to you seems reasonable for kind of a base expectation?
David Schaeffer
executiveThat's correct, Mike.
Michael Rollins
analystSo the other kind of curve ball here is possible recession. And given all of your touch points into different parts of the economy, are you seeing any indicators on a change in consumption or behavior or payments around macro factors? And how does a possible recession impact this recovery?
David Schaeffer
executiveSo we are maybe not the best barometer. We have not seen any increase in bad debt, any material change in DSOs. We have not seen any material business failures. Now our corporate customer base is prevetted by the landlords who typically have the most expensive real estate in any given market. That vetting process insulates us from recession. So in previous recessions, the corporate business continued to grow with one exception, a very deep recession in Q4 of '08 and Q1 of '09. I don't think this recession will be nearly that pronounced and that abrupt. So I don't think it's going to have a material drag on our corporate growth rate. I do think that with a rising interest rate environment and a high level of economic uncertainty, new business formation will remain low, and we should not look at that as a driver of increased occupancy. But rather in this recession, occupancy rates are going to go up because of supply reduction.
Michael Rollins
analystWe need to throw out the next survey question, and we'll come back to this. But just kind of following on the discussion of the Sprint GMG acquisition. Question is how do you view the pending acquisition of Sprint's GMG business for Cogent's ability to create value over a 1- to 3-year period? Positive, neutral or negative? So we'll go to the polls on that. While that's kind of brewing, maybe flipping just for a moment on NetCentric. So you mentioned NetCentric has been performing well relative to history. What's the likelihood that, that continues to perform well? And are there any drivers there that investors should be mindful of?
David Schaeffer
executiveSo while I maybe was more optimistic about our corporate rate of recovery, I have been equally guilty of being too pessimistic about the rate of sustained growth in the NetCentric business. I think that business will continue to outperform for the foreseeable future. Initially, I thought we were benefiting from a surge and pull forward demand due to the pandemic and an acceleration in streaming. While the streaming companies themselves are struggling for profitability, aggregate number of minutes of video consumption continues to increase, and the greatest area of increase is international. We have a much stronger footprint globally. We also have a higher likelihood that we're getting a two-sided payment internationally than domestically. So our NetCentric business has seen traffic growth in line with historic averages, but yet our revenue growth is 70% above the historic average since the pandemic has started. Our average growth rate was about 9% a year. We entered the pandemic actually below average at about 3% NetCentric revenue growth. That accelerated to a peak of over 25% year-over-year growth. It has moderated some to last quarter being just under 17% on a constant currency basis. Because 55% of that business is outside of the U.S., there is significant FX exposure. But what we are seeing is the proliferation of streaming in 2 dimensions: one, more end users; two, many more choices. I was speaking to an investor earlier today, and he looked at the world from the streaming providers out to the customer and was trying to assess the health of that market. And I said, while, that may be an important way to look at the profitability of those streamers, the better way to assess the market is from the consumer in. And what we have seen is the number of minutes of video consumed over the Internet versus other delivery methods go from 18% of all video being streamed pre-pandemic to 44% today. That number will continue to rise. It will come from a wider number of players. It also will come from an increasingly large percentage of free services that are ad-based versus subscription. I think there is no shortage of content. What is in short supply still our eyeballs to watch that content. And as long as there is a war for those consumers, the consumer will win and traffic will continue to grow.
Michael Rollins
analystAnd maybe taking a step back, if you look at just your market shares in both Corporate and NetCentric given the value proposition that you provide, they're not very high in terms of share. I think in the corporate building, it's in the teens of unique customers. And I think you've said before in the NetCentric business, it's mid-20s, is that...
David Schaeffer
executive24%, yes.
Michael Rollins
analystYes. So is a recessionary environment and one in which, as you were describing, customers seem to be pursuing digital transformations maybe more quickly post-pandemic, is this the catalyst or catalysts to really accelerate the opportunity to gain share?
David Schaeffer
executiveI wish that was the case, Mike. I'm not sure it is. I think we sell a necessary utility to businesses. The businesses that we sell to, their Internet spend as a percentage of their total spend is de minimis. So I don't view this as a major cost center. It delivers a tremendous amount of value. While Cogent prices its corporate services at parity to our competitors, we win due to the superiority of the service, the speed of installation, the quality once installed and the aggregate amount of throughput. I think those drivers will continue for our corporate segment. What will accelerate growth is customers feeling some degree of certainty around their future network requirements. Our biggest competitor is not another provider, it's not the realization that their networks need to be modernized, it's actually the fear of doing it at the wrong time, either it's just not convenient or the world is changing. I think as people CIOs, MIS managers, kind of come to grips with the new reality, our corporate business will accelerate. On the NetCentric side, historically, recessions have been a positive. Unemployment rates go up, people have more time on their hands. They use an unlimited service that's a low cost service such as residential broadband more intensely. I think this will continue to accelerate the trend away from linear television and probably bodes well. But I think the real driver is lowering the total percentage of consumers’ spend on entertainment and giving them greater choice. And that's really where streaming wins and linear cannot compete.
Michael Rollins
analystBack to the survey, we ended up with a low sample size on this one. So instead of revealing the results, I'm going to ask the question this way, what have you heard in terms of concern from investors about the deal? And how do you respond to those concerns?
David Schaeffer
executiveSo I would say the #1 concern is you're taking over someone else's problem. It's an old obsolete network and no one pays you $700 million unless there's something wrong with it. And the answer is there is something wrong with it for its current owner. It is not strategic. There is no management focus on it and they have no desire to enter into the market segments that Cogent is going to repurpose that network to serve. I think we were the ideal partner because of our track record of repurposing assets, our ability to take and add value and monetize things in a way that maybe others have not. I have no delusions the network that was built by Sprint for long distance to connect those 168 tandems is completely obsolete. That [network] today needs to be used for modern technology and modern services. That means IP transit and optical transport services. We intend to do that. In addition to that, we are committed to selling off noncore assets. So I think the early concerns have been abated as investors thought that there really are customers for the repurposed network.
Michael Rollins
analystSo last question for us goes to capital allocation. And what -- after slowing the pace of sequential dividend growth over this past quarter, what are the factors that would lead the Board to sustain or accelerate dividend per share growth versus the factors that could lead to either a further deceleration in the growth rate or a cut in the aggregate dividend per share?
David Schaeffer
executiveYes. So Cogent's corporate business, which represents 57% of organic Cogent's revenues had decelerated in the pandemic and that deceleration lasted longer than we anticipated. We also saw a rising interest rate environment. With those 2 factors, it made sense to stop the slow creep up in net leverage. By reducing the growth rate and the dividend from $0.025 a share sequentially to $0.01 a share, we actually get to the point where we start to naturally delever. That does make sense. Two things would motivate the Board to increase the pacing of the growth in the dividend once again. That would either be a reacceleration in the corporate business or a decline in interest rates. Since both of those are not certain at this time, taking that more modest growth rate made sense. But again, I'm going to defend Cogent's growth and dividend policy. We have 41 sequential quarters of growing the dividend. There have actually only ever been 7 public companies in history that have that long of a track record of growing its dividend. We remain underlevered in a recurring revenue business model and our average cost of debt still hovers around 5%. So when we put those factors together, I think we have a very prudent capital structure.
Michael Rollins
analystDave, thank you for joining us today.
David Schaeffer
executiveThank you, Michael. Thank you all in the room, and thank you on the webcast. Take care.
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