Commercial Metals Company (CMC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 18, 2025

US Materials Metals and Mining M&A Calls 51 min

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Operator

Operator
#1

Hello, and welcome, everyone, to Commercial Metals Company's Financial Community Conference Call to discuss its acquisition of Concrete Pipe & Precast. Joining me on today's call are Peter Matt, CMC's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Paul Lawrence, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's materials, including the press release and supplemental slides that accompany this call can be found on CMC's Investor Relations website. Today's call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would like to remind all participants that during the course of this conference call, the company will make statements that provide information other than historical information and will include expectations regarding economic conditions, effects of legislation, U.S. construction activity, the company's future operations, the company's future results of operations, financial measures, capital spending and the benefits and impact of the pending acquisition of Concrete Pipe & Precast. These and other similar statements are considered forward-looking and may involve certain assumptions and speculations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these expectations. These statements reflect the company's beliefs based on current conditions but are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, including those that are described in the Risk Factors and forward-looking Statements section of the company's latest annual report on Form 10-K and other filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Although these statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, CMC offers no assurance that these expectations or beliefs will prove to be correct, and actual results may vary materially. All statements are made only as of this date. Except as required by law, CMC does not assume any obligation to update, amend or clarify these statements in any connection with future events changes in assumptions, the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events, new information or circumstances or otherwise. Some numbers presented will be non-GAAP financial measures, and reconciliations for such numbers can be found in the company's press release of supplemental slide presentation or on the company's website. Unless stated otherwise, all references made to year or quarter end are references to the company's fiscal year or fiscal quarter. And now I will turn the call over to the President and Chief Executive Officer, Peter Matt. Please go ahead.

Peter Matt

Executives
#2

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Paul and I are very pleased to be with you to discuss CMC's agreement to acquire Concrete Pipe & Precast LLC or CP&P. This is an incredibly exciting announcement, which represents a meaningful advancement in CMC's growth strategy and one we believe will create long-term value for both our customers and our shareholders. We are particularly excited to welcome CP&P's world-class team to the CMC family. CP&P brings a strong culture of respect, integrity, excellence, continuous improvement and innovation that mashes well with CMCs. Concrete Pipe & Precast establishes a scalable new growth platform for CMC in a highly attractive industry. CP&P is a long-standing and trusted supplier of a full suite of standard and highly engineered products that serve mission-critical applications in infrastructure, nonresidential and residential early-stage construction. They are focused in the Mid-Atlantic and South Atlantic regions of the U.S. and hold the #1 or #2 positions across each of their core geographies. Their solutions complement CMC's existing product suite, expanding our role with key customer groups and in complementary geographies to bring us on to construction sites earlier in a project life cycle. CP&P's operational footprint, which includes 17 plants align strategically with our own as every CP&P facility is within 100 miles of a CMC mill or rebar fabrication site. We believe this tight geographical overlap will help us fully capitalize on the opportunities we see ahead. As we have previously discussed, CMC's priorities in making a strategic acquisition are, number one, expanding our commercial portfolio and early-stage construction solutions; number two, improving our financial profile; and number three, meaningfully extending our growth runway. CP&P's checks every one of these boxes. In this, we see a clear right to win in the precast space. The acquisition of CP&P will allow CMC to leverage our existing participation in early-stage construction and our deep knowledge of customers, applications and geographies to drive value-accretive solutions for our customers. The acquisition broadens our portfolio of value-added solutions that are critical to nearly all construction projects and will open up new conversations and early entry points with customers. Moreover, CP&P's products also improve our ability to address key pain points in today's construction landscape. We are enhancing CMC's financial profile through the addition of a business with higher, more stable margins and lower capital intensity than our traditional steel operations. Finally, we are creating a highly scalable new growth platform in a large and attractive industry, while increasing CMC's exposure to the structural tailwinds that should benefit construction demand for years to come. Zooming out on the precast industry at large, you can see on Slide 8, some of the characteristics that make the sector attractive to us. With a total addressable market of approximately $30 billion, precast is large and growing faster than the broader concrete sector. This growth is supported by the general trend in construction demand plus increasing market penetration. We believe this advantage is durable. Adoption is being driven by the ability of precast materials to save labor on the job site, deliver reliable quality and provide more predictable project time lines. Another element that makes precast attractive is the financial characteristics of the industry. EBITDA margins are relatively stable and generally above 20%. While like I mentioned earlier, capital intensity is lower than steel meaning more cash flow is retained by the business rather than expanded to maintain operations. On the same slide, you can see the anticipated benefits of entry into precast for CMC specifically. This transaction increases our exposure to the powerful structural trends we believe will provide long-term support to construction activity. Precast and concrete pipe products are essential to nearly all construction sites and will benefit from growing levels of infrastructure investment, reshoring of industry, the build-out of AI infrastructure and addressing the U.S. housing shortage. In fact, as a result of its solid lineup of utility products, CP&P is already capitalizing on investments in data centers and manufacturing plants in its core region, which is one of the fastest growing in the U.S. There are areas where the addition of precast solutions will not only deepen but also broaden CMC's exposure to key structural trends. This includes stormwater management, where we have a few capabilities today, but with the addition of CP&P, we'll be able to better capitalize on investments to reinforce municipal infrastructure against elevated storm activity. In addition to supportive trends in construction demand, precast also benefits from trends in construction execution strategy, labor scarcity, the drive to shorten project time lines and the desire for consistent quality, all benefit demand for precast products which are manufactured to precise specifications in a controlled manufacturing environment, require far less labor to install and are less vulnerable to on-site delays. The precast industry is fragmented at both the national and regional levels with the top 10 players constituting less than 25% of the domestic market. This fragmentation presents opportunities to expand inorganically and increases the executability of transactions supporting our belief that this acquisition is establishing a highly scalable platform for CMC as can be seen on Slides 10 and 12. Additionally, services localized with most product shipments occurring within 150-mile radius of a facility, local expertise is also needed to understand engineering conditions and building codes. This landscape provides the ability to build strong and defensible positions that generate solid and stable margins. As we scale up CMC's precast platform, we anticipate steadily enhancing economics by unlocking greater opportunities to capture operational, logistical and commercial efficiencies. Core to our organic growth strategy is the broadening of CMC's commercial portfolio in a way that advances us towards a long-term vision of becoming a true partner to our customers, capable of designing, planning and optimizing early-stage elements of their construction projects. The addition of precast is consistent with this goal, the upside potential is evidenced in several areas where we already see a high degree of project and customer overlap. One such example is in the data center space where precast is used extensively for dry utility access and water management and will complement CMC's current offerings, which include rebar and post-tension cable for foundations, forming ensuring for tilt wall erection, tensile products for paved surfaces and even merchant bar for ceiling joists. In the future, this significant overlap will provide CMC with an opportunity to offer turnkey solutions to our customers that optimize their project schedules and mitigate risk. Another example is highway construction where we see strong customer alignment in CP&P core regions that can be leveraged over time. Before moving on, I would also again note that the business operates with similarities to our fabrication business. Both Precast and CMC's fabrication business are local in nature requiring deep market knowledge, strong customer relationships and a good reputation to succeed. These are areas where CMC excels. Stepping back from today's announcement, I want to remind you that our growth strategy is designed to achieve higher, more stable margins and cash flows through the cycle. This common thread connects all our strategic initiatives from TAG to organic and inorganic growth investments. Each of our strategic actions is targeted to increase the efficiency of our capital and grow returns over time, and we are confident this acquisition will be accretive to that aim. We are incredibly excited to be entering this $30 billion industry with such a world-class team and see a tremendous opportunity to build on this platform over the short, medium and long term. With that summary of our deal rationale, I'll turn the call over to Paul.

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#3

Thank you, Peter, and good morning to everyone on the call. I will start by building on Peter's remarks regarding the acquisition's impact on CMC's financial profile. Through the purchase of CP&P, we are adding a new complementary earnings driver with higher, less volatile margins and a strong rate of cash flow conversion. Slide 14 illustrates this point. You can clearly see the relative stability of precast concrete pricing compared to rebar over the last 20 years as well as the expansion over concrete, which is the largest cost input. Not only are the margins higher and more stable, but the lower capital intensity of the precast business means more cash is retained on every dollar of EBITDA generated. The conversion of EBITDA to after-tax free cash flow is generally above 70% across the precast space, CP&P included, which is higher than CMC's current rate. This is the kind of attractive financial profile we are seeking to integrate over time as we execute our ambitious growth strategy. On a post-transaction basis, we expect that the acquisition of CP&P will be accretive to our through-the-cycle EBITDA margin by approximately 50 basis points. This business will be included within the emerging business group and will increase the pro forma EBITDA contribution from this reporting segment to over 20% of the total compared to 15% over the trailing 12 months ended May 31, 2025. Slide 17 outlines the major terms related to the transaction. Total consideration of $675 million will be paid at closing and is subject to customary working capital adjustments. This valuation represents a 9.5x multiple on CP&P's expected calendar 2025 EBITDA. Importantly, the effective multiple is reduced to approximately 8.5x when cash tax savings are considered as CMC will benefit from a tax step-up on assets. As we have noted on previous calls, we are committed to buying down the multiple on strategic transactions to a level equal to CMC's average EBITDA multiple within a few years. What this requires is to quickly and sustainably grow earnings in the early years of ownership, which we have a plan to do and are confident in our ability to execute. I would like to highlight that we anticipate the transaction to be immediately accretive to earnings and cash flow per share. We expect to generate annual run rate synergies of approximately $5 million to $10 million by the end of year 3 with the majority sourced from identified and clearly executable optimization initiatives. Long term, we anticipate meaningful commercial synergies as CP&P is integrated and we unlock the full potential of CMC's expanded commercial portfolio. Synergies will become more significant source of economics in future transactions as we scale this platform. The acquisition is structured as an equity purchase. We anticipate closing the transaction with cash on hand. The time line to complete this purchase is subject to regulatory approval and customary closing conditions, which should be obtained by the end of calendar 2025. Upon transaction close, we anticipate CMC's pro forma post-transaction net debt-to-EBITDA ratio to remain modest at approximately 1.1x, giving us ample financial strength to continue share repurchases. That concludes our prepared remarks, and I'd now like to pass to the operator to open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Sathish Kasinathan with Bank of America.

Sathish Kasinathan

Analysts
#5

Peter and Paul, congrats on the announced acquisition. So my first question is on the potential growth opportunities. If you look at the Slide 4, it seems there is strong growth potential for CP&P to grow into markets such as Texas or other regions where CMC has much greater presence. So can you talk about the growth strategy? Is it going to be organic or inorganic growth? So longer term, do you see CP&P having a potential to become a national player?

Peter Matt

Executives
#6

Thank you for the question, Sathish. We like the space a lot, and we do think that there's a very nice opportunity for us to grow this platform over time. In the short term, we see organic opportunities in working with the CP&P management to unlock some of the earnings potential of the asset. So that will drive not actually capacity expansion but earnings expansion. So we're excited about that. And then beyond that, we think there's a substantial opportunity to grow this through inorganic initiatives. And there, what we like is -- in this business, we think it's possible to create what we'll call regional strongholds while we consolidate into a national platform. So I think again, with M&A, it's always chunky, so we're going to have to see how it comes. But there are a lot of very small players. So -- and then there are some regional players and we'll -- we're going to be looking at those to try to knit together something that mirrors the kind of footprint we have across the southern part of the U.S.

Sathish Kasinathan

Analysts
#7

I mean, maybe another question is on Slide 15, you talk about potential line of sight for $20 million to $25 million of EBITDA growth by year 3. Can you maybe share some thoughts on how you expect to drive this? And I assume this doesn't include any of the potential growth opportunities into other regions?

Peter Matt

Executives
#8

Yes, that's correct to your second question. Let me just start by saying, so we also talked about $5 million to $10 million of synergies. And those are mostly operational synergies, and they would be included in that number. And beyond that, we would -- and by the way, those operational synergies are coming really from working with the CP&P management team to unlock some of our capabilities through kind of enhanced purchasing, enhanced logistics places where we can invest a little bit of capital, not huge dollars, but to unlock some of their earnings potential. So those would be more on the operational side. And then the difference between that 5% to 10% and kind of the overall number that you cite is really in commercial synergies. And we see substantial opportunities for commercial synergies. In the near term, let me just give you a couple of examples of where I think that plays out. And I'm just going to talk about it in a baseball analogy in terms of at bats. So if we think about having -- these businesses are very local in their nature, right? And so if you think about our rebar fab business, the business is sourced through kind of local relationships. And similarly, with the precast business also sourced through local relationships. So just by way of example, CP&P is on a manufacturing job that is in the Southeast, that's a very big manufacturing job and CMC is not on it. So again, the fact that the one is on it and the other one is not on it, it gives a potential for an at bat for CMC. Going the other way, I'm thinking about -- or I'm pointing to a -- I would point to a DOT job where CMC is on the -- or is contracted, but the CP&P is not. So I think there are opportunities like that across the footprints that we share in common to gain greater visibility and help each other to number one, be successful in the product category that starts there, but also extending it to other CMC product categories. Longer term, and I think where the real kind of what we're really playing for in this transaction is that over time, our goal is to build an early stage construction platform that increases our importance to our contractors, gives us a bigger seat in the table and allows us to deliver more content and more value. We talked in our prepared remarks about designing, planning and executing and we use the word turnkey. So those are -- that's where we're aiming to. And we believe that with the ubiquity of precast products that this is going to really help us do this over time. So very excited about the ability to achieve that overall incremental EBITDA. And again, I think if you do the math on that, it will show you that we're bringing on multiple just as we said we would down to the multiple that CMC trades at.

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#9

Sathish, I'll just add, there's 1 more component to why we're excited about this business, and it's really the market growth and the penetration of precast versus cast in place that has grown very nicely over the last 5 years and allowed for good revenue growth and that market penetration we're expecting. So also expecting the market growth both from a penetration as well as the markets in which CP&P operates today are very strong growth forecast for construction activity.

Operator

Operator
#10

And your next question comes from Katja Jancic with BMO Capital Markets.

Katja Jancic

Analysts
#11

Peter, you mentioned that you're basically building an early-stage construction platform. When you look at the emerging business group's portfolio post this deal, do you still see opportunity to further expand into other products? Or is the portfolio as you have, you're happy with it?

Peter Matt

Executives
#12

Yes, it's a great question, Katja. So we -- let me just -- if you'll bear with me, let me just step back from this to say this is not -- this acquisition is not something that just popped up. We've been studying this space, the early-stage construction space for really 2 years now. And we've been engaged with this asset CP&P for well over a year. So this is something that we very deliberately kind of identified as part of a strategic thrust recognizing the fact that in our core steel mill business, we can't really expand that, as we've said to you in the past. So we -- one of the things that was a criterion and looking at different business segments was to find a segment that we could grow in so that we don't have to keep adding new product lines, new capabilities, right, something that was scalable. And what we liked about the precast space is that it is -- we really believe given the fragmentation and given the growth opportunities that Paul just talked about that this is scalable. And so I think in terms of a focal point, we will be focused on precast and, let's say, our existing portfolio and expanding that. Tensar we believe, has growth potential to it. Obviously, [ bridge systems ] has growth potential. We're investing in our GalvaBar and our performance reinforcing steel business. So we think we've got a nice portfolio of early-stage construction products. What I will say is that we need to keep our eyes open. And over time, we may consider other products but that's not our priority today. Our priority today is we like the space, and we think there's an opportunity to grow in it.

Operator

Operator
#13

And your next question comes from Carlos De Alba with Morgan Stanley.

Carlos de Alba

Analysts
#14

Peter and Paul, just following on the line of conversation. It seems that you really want to grow this business multi-region and potentially nationally. Would you consider using more debt and increase your leverage to do so, arguably more rapidly than just through cash as is the case of the CP&P deal. And given maybe the more stable EBITDA, increasing your leverage would not be such an issue?

Peter Matt

Executives
#15

Yes. So let me just start and then I'd like Paul to jump in on this, too. So we know we have debt capacity, but we're also mindful of the fact that we need to maintain flexibility given the business that we're in. So we are -- our target is to stay within this 2x debt to EBITDA. And that is really kind of our focal point at this point. This business, with this acquisition, we don't even come close to that. We're a 1.1x debt-to-EBITDA. But maybe I'll throw it over to Paul to make some additional comments.

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#16

Yes. If we look at our capital allocation strategy that I think we've been very clear on we've said we'd be very disciplined and balanced. And I think we provided an outlook in terms of where we would look to invest from a growth perspective. As Peter said earlier, we've been studying this industry for a long period of time. Early stage construction is what we would like to do. We're looking for businesses that have higher through the cycle, more stable margins and acquisitions that would be in the nature of this size. And CP&P ticks all of those boxes. So from a capital allocation perspective, this does not change any of our priorities. We remain focused on growth. As we said, the balance sheet remains an asset to us in terms of the strength and flexibility that it provides. And so yes, for the right opportunity, we would certainly love to continue to leverage that balance sheet for acquisition opportunities that demonstrate the same characteristics of CP&P.

Peter Matt

Executives
#17

Carlos, could I just add 1 additional point to this. As we said earlier, inorganic growth, we can't call the timing on it. So it's -- we don't know today what is going to come our way. So I do want to be clear about the fact that depending on what comes our way, could we bring the leverage over 2x? It's possible. It's not our plan. It's possible. But if we did that, we would have a plan to bring it very quickly down to below 2x. So I just want to kind of make sure we're clear on that point. And to echo Paul's point, a strong balance sheet is absolutely core to who we are, excuse me, and we're going to maintain a strong balance sheet.

Carlos de Alba

Analysts
#18

Fair enough. And then if I may, is there any color or details that you can share in terms of the timing as to when you are going to realize the cash tax benefits that you alluded to?

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#19

No, Carlos, we do believe that the transaction will be immediately accretive. We do anticipate closing the transaction before the end of the calendar year. So to that end, we believe that it will be accretive here in our fiscal 2026, which we're already in, and that will be both from a cash and EPS perspective. But the cash tax benefits certainly has been enhanced based on the Big Beautiful Bill and some of the provisions that allow for accelerated depreciation, which allow us to reach or recognize those cash tax benefits sooner rather than later.

Operator

Operator
#20

And your next question comes from Timna Tanners with Wells Fargo.

Timna Tanners

Analysts
#21

Thanks for all the color and the presentation. I wanted to, if I could, ask a little bit more about CP&P. We're not really familiar with that business. So I know you said it had more stable EBITDA margins, but could you talk a little bit about what the actual EBITDA look like through cycles or expand on that? And then along the same lines, if you could talk to us about why Eagle wanted to sell the division? That would be great.

Peter Matt

Executives
#22

Do you want to take the first one?

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#23

Yes. So as far as the business, it has had very strong growth, both top line and EBITDA. As outlined in terms of the presentation, what we're expecting in 2025 is EBITDA slightly north of $70 million with an EBITDA margin in the low 20% range, so in low to mid-20s. So that is what CP&P has delivered. Their business continues to benefit from the strength of the markets in which they operate. Their backlog levels are meaningfully up versus 12 months ago. And so we expect that the revenue should continue to grow. And we're very confident that not only are these EBITDA multiples of what they've recorded today, sustainable, but also growable by the activities in that CP&P has in flight already as well will be augmented by some of the efficiency and optimization that we will bring from our expertise and capabilities.

Peter Matt

Executives
#24

And vis-a-vis the rationale for the sale by Eagle Corp, it's a family entity, and the family is not connected to the business. And so again, I think this is just an opportunity to monetize an investment for the family.

Timna Tanners

Analysts
#25

That makes sense. On Slide, I think, it's 8, you talk about adoption tailwinds. And I'd just like to understand those a little bit better. I think labor savings seemed really compelling obviously, time, regulatory, et cetera. Can you explain how that business really saves on labor and project efficiencies?

Peter Matt

Executives
#26

Yes, absolutely. So if you think about a precast product, what happens is it gets made in a factory as opposed to the alternative is cast in place, so you are beyond the construction site, and you'd actually make the -- effectively make the product on the construction site. So you can imagine if you bring a finished product to the construction site, you need less labor on the construction site to make it. So that's point number one, in terms of labor efficiency. And obviously, there's time there, too, because you've got -- there's a whole process to cast in place. The other piece that I think is really important is that as you think about increased weather delays, and we've talked about this in some of our projects. I know all the people have talked about it in the case of their projects. When you have inclement weather, it's harder to do and sometimes you can't do a cast in place right? So for example, you lose a construction day because of weather or you definitely lose a cast in place day. So it just adds more time on to your schedule, whereas if we make it in a factory, we bring it to the site, depending what that weather is, we might be able to install that, the precast product, in those conditions where you might not, for example, be able to do cast in place. So in that regard, it can save substantially on time. And as you know, from a construction perspective, that's hugely valuable to our contractors.

Operator

Operator
#27

And your next question comes from Bill Peterson with JPMorgan.

William Peterson

Analysts
#28

Congrats on the acquisition. A lot of the questions have been answered thus far, but I'm curious as being not that familiar with these precast solutions. What kind of barriers to entry are there? Is it really just more of a regional play, you need to be fairly close to your customers? Is there any technical barriers to entry, commercial barriers to entry. Just trying to get more color on the sort of how the markets operate.

Peter Matt

Executives
#29

Yes. I would say there are -- again, in any particular region, there are established players. So there are relationships that are in play, just like what we have in rebar fab, and those relationships are very sticky. I can tell you, as I go around and meet with general contractors, they have long memories about who has stood by them and who have served them well over time, and they stand by those, right? And so the relationship piece is very important. The other piece that I think is really important here is technical. And there -- these products are -- they're not easy to make. And again, I would analogize that in some ways to some of our rebar fabrication applications, where some of these fabrications that we do are quite complex. And in this business, you've got some very complex forms that are made and not everyone can do them, and particularly when you start getting into the more engineered or more specialty products here. So I think that the technical knowledge is also a barrier. The third thing I'd point to is capital. Capital is a barrier and it depends on -- if you're talking about this marketplace, right? You've got 2 big national players. And then you got some regional players and then a lot of small players. So if you think about kind of the capital it requires to put in a pipe plan that's a pretty significant number for a small business. If you're talking about adding precast capability, that's still a pretty significant number for a small player. And so I think the capital does become a barrier and particularly as the industry advances and companies get more sophisticated with their manufacturing, I think that becomes an increasing barrier. So I'd point to those 3.

William Peterson

Analysts
#30

Yes. trying to frame how to ask it, but how should we think about any sort of pull-through on rebar from -- I guess this would be sort of an internal customer on one hand? And then I guess, just maybe more information or more color on how this could pull rebar demand from your existing business, I guess, on a given construction site? Just trying to get a sense for how those synergies may play out.

Peter Matt

Executives
#31

Yes. And there is some of that. They do consume rebar, and we could supply rebar. The total steel that they consume is about last year is I think it's something like 15,000 tons. Not all of it being rebar. Some of it is in the form of wire rod and some of it's in the form of mesh. So wire rod, we do produce, obviously, in Florida. Mesh, we do not produce today. But I think the important thing on the steel side is it's a nice connection but it's not a driver for us in this instance. The driver really is about building early-stage construction platform in an attractive industry where we can create value and where we can grow our platform over time to be a substantial contributor to our overall EBITDA. So we'll continue to look at that, but it's a nice to have, not a must have.

Operator

Operator
#32

And your next question comes from Alex Hacking with Citi.

Alexander Hacking

Analysts
#33

My first question would be on CP&P's margins. Do you know how that 25% EBITDA margin stacks up versus peers? Is that best of breed? Is that kind of average?

Peter Matt

Executives
#34

It's definitely not best of breed. There's a range of margins, and I'll kick this over to Paul, but I'd say it's probably 25% to 35% is the range to think about here?

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#35

Yes. There is certainly in an industry in which there's a lot of different scale and a lot of different regions, it's a different margin profile that if you look at across the entire country. But certainly those that are in the top half of the industry, it's generally north of 20% and can go almost nearing 50% we've seen. So we think there's good room for continued growth, certainly in the markets that CP&P plays. But again, to the earlier comment, I think these margins, we're very comfortable are sustainable and certainly growable with some of the things that are in-flight and with the capabilities that CMC will bring.

Peter Matt

Executives
#36

And 1 other thing, Alex, too, that I might add is just the fact that we're super excited about the team that we're getting from the management team, we're getting from CP&P. They've done a really nice job over the last several years in elevating their margins. And again, I think they're going to be great partners in kind of realizing full potential for this business. And we've had a lot of conversations about that. And I think there's a broad agreement on the opportunity.

Alexander Hacking

Analysts
#37

And then I guess as a follow-up, how would you categorize capacity utilization? And I guess, kind of a dumb question, but what define capacity in this business? Is it the amount of equipment you have, the number of shifts that you can run.

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#38

Capacity utilization is a very interesting concept in this, and it really comes down to equipment and efficiencies that exist in the sites as well as what we've seen is we've seen a very fragmented market. And so I think with the opportunity to enter with a great platform company like CP&P and opportunity to roll up. Some of that will definitely be in terms of leveraging utilization through optimization of sites of introducing capital in some cases. So I think it's a combination of there is good area for growth in this platform to continue to grow for what we see as the immediate future in terms of what we project for where this business can go. We don't need to add to the capacity. We can make it more efficient. But I think CP&P has a great footprint to grow with the market as we expect it to over the coming years.

Peter Matt

Executives
#39

One other thing, Alex, that is kind of interesting about this space as we did -- as we've done a lot of diligence on this over the last couple of years is the fact that you don't see that many new capacity adds. There are, of course, a couple of exceptions to that. But generally speaking, it's not a business where you see a lot of greenfields. And when you do see greenfields, and this is probably why you don't see a lot of greenfields, it seems to take a long time for them to penetrate the market, which comes back to that comment about strong regional relationships with the site prep guys is they're very sticky.

Operator

Operator
#40

And your next question comes from Mike Harris with Goldman Sachs.

Michael Harris

Analysts
#41

Peter, Paul, if you could, on the revenue growth over the last 5 years, I think you called out like 14%. Can you speak to how much of that was price versus volume? And maybe give us some idea of how we should think about the contribution from each going forward?

Paul Lawrence

Executives
#42

Mike, it's a good question. I think what we're excited about from a CP&P perspective is they've really benefited from both sides of that equation. Clearly those markets in which it operates, has seen great construction activity. And to Peter's point, the relationships and the value that CP&P brings to its customer base, they have seen their outsized share of that growth. But they've also had a great opportunity to leverage commercial excellence within the business that we hope to continue to use to expand margins from a pricing perspective. So it is both a revenue growth from making the commercial approach more efficient as well as seeing good market growth.

Peter Matt

Executives
#43

And I think that's a great response. And I would also call your attention to Slide 6 and look at the chart on the left-hand side of Slide 6. It's a very interesting chart, and it's one of the things that we've studied a lot as we looked at this space, and it goes to our comment about volatility, and there is pricing power in this space. And obviously, that's something that we think is attractive for our business.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#44

Okay. Okay. Very helpful. And I guess just 1 last 1 here. When we look at this acquisition, what percent of the job site do you now provide a products for customer needs. I mean does that put you on 100% offering? Or is there still some areas on the job site where you could still, I guess, provide a product offering?

Peter Matt

Executives
#45

Yes. No. I mean we're still -- with the suite that we have today, we're still a relatively small piece of the overall spend. When you think -- if you think about early-stage construction, we're talking about $150 billion market. So there's a lot of products that go into that. So we're still a relatively small piece. But I think the important thing here is that, remember, any small piece that's not there when it needs to be there, can delay a project. And so it's really important that even if you are a small piece when you're an important piece like a piece of precast concrete, pipe or a precast structure or a rebar fab, you got or a tensile product or any of the other products we make. If you don't have that on time, you're going to be costing the contractor.

Operator

Operator
#46

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Peter Matt for any closing remarks.

Peter Matt

Executives
#47

Well, thank you for joining us on today's conference call. We are confident that this transaction will generate good value for both our customers and shareholders. We are entering an attractive industry through the purchase of a leader whose products complement our existing portfolio and take us further towards our goal of being an unmatched solutions provider in early-stage construction. We are excited about the returns we can generate from this new growth platform, particularly as we scale it over time. We look forward to speaking with many of you after our fiscal fourth quarter results are announced in mid-October. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator
#48

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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