Comvita Limited (CVT.NZ) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

December 17, 2025

NZSE NZ Consumer Staples Personal Care Products Shareholder/Analyst Calls 133 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Bridget Coates

Executives
#1

Good afternoon. There are still seats available if you'd like to come forward. If there are people still standing, we can bring more seats. Thanks. Hi, Brit. There's a couple of seats up here, if you want to. [Foreign Language] Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us here today here at the Papamoa Surf Club with this unbelievable beautiful environment and a beautiful day for us and also online. I am Bridget Coates, Chair of the Comvita Board. I would like to ask Nikki Reedy, who is Comvita's Customer Experience Manager, to come forward and open our meeting with a karakia. Thank you, Nikki.

Unknown Executive

Executives
#2

[Foreign Language] Welcome to the Comvita Annual Shareholders Meeting. [Foreign Language] Can we please stand, if you can, so we can open with a [Foreign Language].

Bridget Coates

Executives
#3

Thank you, Nikki. I'd like to welcome you all to our 2025 Annual Shareholders Meeting, and this is my second meeting as Chair. The Board and I are pleased to be having this meeting today in the Bay of Plenty, where Comvita has its roots and where so many of our people live and work. Before we start, some housekeeping, please. For those in the room, could I ask you to put your phone on silent. Toilet facilities are located near the entrance you came through and to the left. If I fire alarm goes off, the main exits are marked by the green running man symbol, and please exit and convene on the grass area outside at the front of the venue. Please follow other directions from the managers of the facility. Comvita's Board of Directors include Mike Sang as Chair of our Audit and Risk Committee; Bob Major, Chair of our Safety and Performance Committee, Yawen Wu, a representative of China Resources; and Guangping Zhu, a major shareholder. I am, today, joined by my fellow directors, Mike and Bob, and by members of the senior leadership team, including our Chief Executive, Karl Gradon, and our recently appointed Chief Financial Officer, Mandy Tomkins-Dancey. Yawen Wu and Mr. Zhu have provided their apologies for this meeting. And Alfred Luke is attending online from China on behalf of Yawen. I'd also like to welcome Glenn Keaney from KPMG; and Andrew Matthews from Simpson Grierson, Comvita's legal advisers who both join us here today. And to the team from the share registrar, MUFG Pension and Market Services both here and outside. MUFG will help conduct the voting on the formal business, which comes up later in the meeting and will also act as scrutineer for the votes that you will cast. So today's meeting is a hybrid meeting, which is being held both in person in the room and online through MUFG's online meeting platform. We will use some slides during the meeting. The Chair's address, the CEO's addresses and the slides have been posted on the NZX and on comvita.com.nz in the Investors section prior to this meeting. So you can refer to them afterwards if you'd like to do so. For those of you who are attending the meeting virtually, if you would like to submit a question, the Q&A is open during the course of the meeting. So please feel free to submit questions through the meeting and they will be addressed in the Q&A section. Click on the Ask a Question box at the top or bottom of the web page and enter your shareholder or proxy holder number to validate yourself. Type your question and click submit. I'd encourage you to submit questions as early as possible. If we receive multiple questions on any topic, they may be amalgamated together. And given the time frame, there may be questions not answered in time. And so we will undertake to provide an e-mail response to you after the meeting. Voting today will be provided -- will be conducted by way of a poll. If you are eligible to vote at this meeting and you are joining us online, you can vote at any time during the meeting by clicking Get a Voting Card online and submit into your shareholder or proxy holder number. After completing your selection, click Submit Vote at the bottom of the electronic card. You can change your vote up to the time that the meeting closes. More information on how to vote online is contained in the virtual meeting guide, which is available on the platform or alternatively, you can call the help line on 0800-200-220. If you are an eligible shareholder or proxy holder attending in person, you should have received a voting card when you registered. When it's time to vote, would you please tick the relevant box to indicate whether you are voting for, against or abstaining from the resolution. If you do not have a voting card and are eligible to vote or you have questions, please do make your way to the registration desk, which is just outside the room, and you can get a voting card there. The company's secretary has confirmed to me that the voting -- that the notice of meeting has been duly sent to shareholders and all persons entitled to have it. The financial statements for the year are ending 30th of June 2025, and the auditor's report for the period are available on the Investor Center on our website. The financial statements were made available on our website on 29th of August on the same date that we announced our annual results, and an annual report was made available to you on the 18th of September. Hard copies are available of these documents through MUFG Pension and Market Services or by contacting our customer experience team on 0800-504-959 if you would like to obtain those copies. I have been told that we have a quorum. And given that the time is now past 2 p.m., I now declare this Annual Shareholders' Meeting open. Proxies have been appointed for the purposes of this meeting in respect to approximately 32 million shares, representing over 45% of the number of shares on issue. Now to the agenda for today's meeting. Over recent months, shareholders have received a significant amount of information about the company through the scheme process and through related disclosures. Because of that level of detail, this meeting is an opportunity to provide an update to that information on the areas that we know -- or areas of focus that we know are really important to our shareholders. The Board is firmly focused on the future of the company, on stabilization, on recapitalization and on returning to sustainable profitability and rebuilding long-term shareholder value. That is where our time and energy and focus is being directed, and those are the parameters of today's meeting. My address today will focus, therefore, on progress against the strategic reset, the recapitalization pathway, our current trading position and the Board's priorities for the period ahead. I'll then introduce you to the leadership team, who will provide an operational and financial update, an overview of the dynamics in each of our major markets and share with you our refined strategy and new growth initiatives underway. This will include an update from Rommel Irwan, our Head of Market in Southeast Asia and the Middle East. It's great to have Rommel here in New Zealand for our shareholders' meeting, and I'm really looking forward to hearing from Rommel today. We will then conduct the formal part of the meeting, which is a discussion of the annual report and financial statements, consideration of the ordinary resolutions relating to the approval of the remuneration of the auditors, director elections and before we finish with time for your questions and general business. There will be an opportunity for questions under each of these headings at each of these items of business, and we would ask you to hold your questions until the appropriate time, and I will invite you to submit the questions at that time. Before we turn to the reset strategy, the recapitalization process and current trading performance, I would really like to thank shareholders for their engagement and continued belief in this very special company and brand. It's been a sustained period of enormous challenge for our company. We recognize the impact that this has had on you as shareholders, and we do appreciate the constructive dialogue that so many of you have maintained with us during this very difficult period. The company is at a critical inflection point. Over the long term, Comvita has delivered revenue growth with the natural variability that one would expect in an agricultural business. However, that revenue growth has not translated over the years into acceptable or consistent profit. And despite the strength of our brand and its market-leading position, the business has not fully captured the opportunities available to it in terms of its market share, its price realization, the value of its brand and the operating performance that we should have been able to expect. So closing the gap between growth and sustainable returns which has persisted over a number of years has required decisive action by the Board. 2 years ago, in the face of increasing debt and prolonged underperformance, we commenced a strategic review of the underlying issues that were constraining our performance and pacing unsustainable pressure on our balance sheet. Three core areas of improvement were identified. The first is capital allocation. The company had made a number of strategic investments that did not meet return expectations. In several cases, capital was committed without sufficient commercial rigor or market insight, resulting in outcomes that did not deliver full value for shareholders. The second is inventory management. Forecasting and market insight were not sufficiently robust, and the company entered a period into the period of declining prices, while we were holding excess inventory. As you all know, in agricultural businesses, that is a very, very difficult situation to be in, created an unacceptable inventory buildup, tied up our capital and placed enormous pressure on our margins. The third event that was identified as a core area for improvement as our fixed operating leverage and balance sheet exposure. The company carried a historically high cost base and an over-leveraged balance sheet. When market conditions weakened, especially in China, this left earnings and liquidity exposed and ultimately, we required covenant waivers from our banking syndicate. Alongside these financial and structural pressures, the sector itself, as you will know from the announcements that we have made on this topic, the sector was changing at pace, and the company found itself not well positioned to keep up with those changes. So a reset strategy was implemented with urgency, and we are pleased -- we are very pleased with the progress to date that we are achieving. Although the operating environment does remain challenging, the company has made significant progress through financial year '25 and into financial year '26 in strengthening its underlying position. I'd like to give you a few points to demonstrate this. Inventory has reduced by $46.8 million in FY '25 compared to FY '24. While inventory reduced by this amount, we are still seeing our cost per kilogram of raw honey at elevated levels. So there is further work to do on bringing those numbers, bringing our holding costs down. $12.6 million of cost reductions were delivered in FY '25 with a full annualized saving built into the FY '26 forecast. Net debt reduced by $17.4 million between FY '25 compared to FY '24 with further deleveraging expected in the period now through to 31st of December 2025. On our -- on the operating side, distribution models and sales channels have been greatly simplified. Our internal controls and reporting structures have been strengthened, and our leadership capability has been strengthened across the business and we'll come back to that point shortly. The actions to date have delivered meaningful progress. They've laid the found foundations for continued performance improvement, a more resilient platform for FY '26 and a stronger base for recapitalizing the business and for recovery. I will now turn to the recapitalization process, which remains the most critical focus for the Board. While the reset program is delivering tangible results, this is not and will not be enough to place the company into a sustainable financial position. As shareholders are aware, the Board completed an extensive assessment of the capital options available to Comvita, which was supported by our independent advisers. Based on the company's position at that time and a share price in the range of $0.47 to $0.52, it was the Board's responsibility to put the $0.80 offer from Florenz to our shareholders for consideration. Taking this step also importantly enabled us to secure continued support from our banking syndicate to progress the reset while this proposal was being considered. Shareholders reached different conclusions on this proposal. Many saw it as an attractive option in the circumstances based on their liquidity needs and their risk preferences. Others, including many long-standing shareholders and supporters of the company, formed a different point of view. The Board respects everybody's point of view in this regard and has full respect for both points of view. While more than half of the votes cast were in favor, the scheme did not meet the statutory thresholds required for approval, as you all know. Importantly, the work undertaken through that period alongside the continued progress regarding the operational reset that I referred to before has strengthened the company's position for the next steps. The independent advisers report have provided you, as shareholders, with a comprehensive and transparent assessment of Comvita's position and outlook, and it remains a very valuable reference point as we move forward. It is a very good document, a very thorough document, and it does have a lot of information in it as we consider our next steps. A significant amount of analysis was completed as part of the strategic review and a broad set of capital options was explored. And because we did that work, the recapitalization process that we are now pursuing is able to proceed very quickly with greater clarity and pace that might have been other ways possible. So as we announced on NZX on Friday, the 12th of December, which was a week ago essentially, we are pleased to have reached agreement with our lending syndicate to support this recapitalization process, including extensions to our banking facilities that were scheduled to mature on January and in March. These facilities have been extended until April 2026, and the lenders have provided additional covenant accommodations for us through the 31st of March 2026 testing date. These steps provide the time that we require to complete the recapitalization work. We remain in close and constructive contact with our lending syndicate. Stability has been very, very important to reaching this point. The progress we are now making operationally and with our lenders has been achieved through sustained effort and disciplined execution over a difficult period. That stability remains critical for our people, for our partners and for our banking syndicate whose continued support is fundamental for the company's future. The Board has a clear preference for a recapitalization approach, which seeks to provide existing shareholders for it with an opportunity to support the company while also minimizing dilution. Since the scheme vote, we have received significant expressions of interest from both existing shareholders and from new parties. This has greatly expanded the range of potential options that are available to the company. The Board and management are now engaged in detailed discussions with several parties as we work through the structure of the recapitalization. And this does include options for replacements at above the current market price. These discussions are continuing and remain subject to further evaluation with no certainty, of course, as to outcome at this stage. With regard to timing, we anticipate investors will want to understand the first half trading prior to participating in any capital raise. We anticipate the first half trading, which clearly finishes on 31st of December, the results for that will be available in the second half of February. The final outcome will depend on continued trading performance as it always does and completion of the discussions that we're having with a range of parties, as I just said. All the work is being progressed through a disciplined, structured and well-governed process with the objective of maximizing our shareholder value for all shareholders. We will continue to update you shareholders in line with our continuous disclosure obligations. In particular, I want to acknowledge the very constructive and helpful approaches we have received from both existing shareholders and potential new shareholders who have expressed interest in supporting our recapitalization process. This reflects a very strong belief in Comvita and its potential under the right capital structure, and we are very, very grateful to those people who have come forward in that regard with ideas and proposals of capital to support the company. Turning now to current trading. Karl will speak more broadly about this, but in light with the -- in line with the market update released on 23rd of October, Comvita continues to trade ahead of forecast. Our FY '26 full year earnings outlook remains consistent with that presented in the independent advisers report, which is included in your scheme booklet. These forecasts include normalized EBIT before IFRS 16 of $13.5 million. Normalized EBIT pre-IFRS 16 is earnings before interest and tax, normalized for project flourish and transformation expenses of $1.3 million and before applying NZ IFRS 16 leases. This is a non-GAAP measure, which is used -- which was used by the independent valuer as part of the scheme booklet to assist shareholders with understanding the underlying performance of Comvita. Continued inventory management is supporting further deleveraging. Based on current trading, the Board remains confident in the company's return to profitability in FY '26. This guidance remains subject to successful trading execution and market conditions across the balance of the year, we still have 6 months to go, where earnings are weighted towards sales -- major sales events throughout the year and with a number of those in the second half. Karl and Mandy are going to speak in more detail about the operational drivers behind this performance. So in sum, the Board's priorities for the period are very clear. First, a successful recapitalization, establishing a sustainable capital structure and lending arrangements that allow the company to go forward. As I said, we are pleased with the progress we're making on that regard. We want to -- we must have continued focus on execution, including capital discipline, operational optimization and inventory management. We will continue to refine strategies that build a long-term operational resilience, improve competitiveness and support sustainable growth. We will empower our capable and high-performing leadership team to deliver on our strategy. We will maintain strong governance oversight of disciplined execution, cost control and financial resilience. And over time, we will rebuild your confidence, investor confidence through our transparency, our consistent delivery and improved returns. A further priority for the Board is enhancing the Board itself to ensure the availability of the capability and experience required to deliver on the next phase of Comvita's recovery. Over the coming year, the Board will continue to strengthen the depth and breadth of competencies most relevant to the complex and evolving environment we are operating in, including FMCG brand experience in key global markets and experience in operational excellence. As part of this process, we have a strong list of candidates under active assessment, and the company's improving performance allows us to accelerate those conversations and move decisively. Before I close, I just want to speak briefly to the new leadership of the company because it is one of the, if not the, most important driver of Comvita's improved position and future performance. A central focus of the reset has been ensuring Comvita has the capability, clarity and leadership strength required for the operation -- for the environment we're operating in. Karl, our new CEO, brings deep sector understanding commercial discipline and a decisive approach to execution. He has stepped into the role at a pivotal moment for the company and has already brought a level of focus, pace and alignment that is making a meaningful difference. Mandy, our new CFO, brings strong financial expertise, capital markets experience and the proven ability to navigate complex financial settings. Her leadership is essential as we progress the recapitalization process and we strengthen the financial foundations of the business. Together, they lead a capable and aligned executive team, many of whom are here today, and I do hope you get a chance to speak with them. They are the right leaders for this moment, and they are the right leaders for the next phase of the company. Their experience, judgment and ability to operate under pressure gives the Board a lot of confidence in the next steps. The challenges we face are real, but so is the progress that we are making and so are the opportunities ahead. With this leadership team now in place, Comvita is better positioned to compete, to execute and to begin to grow again. It's now my pleasure to hand over to you, Karl. Thank you.

Karl Gradon

Executives
#4

[Foreign Language] Thank you, Bridget. Thank you very much. It is an absolute pleasure to be standing here today. A little over 4 months into my time in this role and to share the progress we're making to turn this business around. My focus has been on this understanding the realities of the business and setting clear priorities and performance expectations across the board and ensuring that our global teams are aligned to these. I've made 5 trips to China, U.S.A., Singapore, meeting with our teams, partners and customers. With more of our people based offshore than in New Zealand, being in market and listening to their needs is essential for my role. Many hard decisions and early progress has already been made before I joined Comvita. This business is in a very different place to what we were just a year ago and even more since June since we started in this financial year. My key observation is that we were probably trying to do too much. We needed to sharpen our commercial focus and strengthen our execution through improved capability and accountabilities. We have not embarked on a large number of new initiatives yet. Instead, we have deliberately stopped doing things that were not adding value and it become far more focused on moving forward at pace with clear measure of action. What is clear to me is that the business does not find itself in this position overnight. It reflects decisions that have been made and circumstances that have accumulated over many years. Looking forward, however, is how we are going to win again. Ongoing noise and speculation or distraction does not serve in the long-term interest of the business and certainly not of my team. I want to acknowledge the Board for stepping up, stepping forward and facing the challenges and maintaining their commitment through what has been an exceptionally demanding period for the company. I also want to recognize our global teams for their unwavering focus. They're really hard work and commitment. And delivering against our 2026 objectives. We have now engaged a dedicated specialist resource to support the refinancing process so that our core leadership team can remain focused on running and improving our business. We do not need additional distractions. Also and very importantly, given our trading history, I want to express my absolute appreciation to our banking partners for giving us time to address our balance sheet issues and to you, our shareholders, for your continued belief and faith in compete in Comvita. Thank you very much. I'd like to introduce you to what I consider to be a world-class team. A priority area for me has been ensuring we have a stable and capable leadership team to help navigate our current situation and reset the business for growth. Joining Mandy and I on the leadership team are Dr. Jackie Evans, our Chief Science Officer; and Ben Duncan, who is unfortunately not here today, our Chief Operating Officer; Monica Yianakis has continued in her role as our Chief Marketing Officer. Nikki Leske has been appointed to our Chief People and Culture Officer, and Erin Swanson continues in her role as Head of Sustainability and strategic projects. It is wonderful to have such a talented and globally experienced team supporting the business as we move forward. I want to repeat the clear points that I made at our investor presentation in August on the day of our 2025 results. The leadership team and I have a very clear mandate: We need to fix what is not working at Comvita; protect what is strong; and lift our performance. We must not lose sight of our strengths. Comvita is the global #1 Manuka brand, and we have the most extensive distribution reach in the category, particularly in our key markets across Asia. Our scientific product -- sorry, our scientific capability, product quality and provenance set us apart. And as I've already noted, we have a fantastic team. Our challenges are now well understood. We have not adapted fast enough to the shifts in the market and industry dynamics, and this has impacted our competitive position and our financial performance. Bridget has highlighted the historical cost base and the need for continued operational improvements to increase efficiency and competitiveness. We also need to improve our execution, strength and productivity through standardized processes and systems and sharpen our global focus and alignment of our global teams. We need to deliver on our 2026 priorities. The results are what will improve and maintain the support and trust of our shareholders. We still have lots of work to do ahead of us, but disciplined execution is now translating into measurable results. Building on the progress made in FY '25, we are on track to deliver against our FY '26 priorities. Mandy will speak in more detail about our current financial performance and outlook, but revenue and profit are currently on target, supported by a more assertive sales strategy and significant volume gains through new club retail partnerships. Gross margin recovery is on track, and our gross margin percentage, when you exclude our club retail positions, is significantly higher than previous years. We are also actively diversifying our customer risk profile. We are making progress in strengthening our brand consistency and innovation and in improving our global alignment around commercial prioritization. While substantial cost savings and efficiency improvements have already flowed into the FY '26 forecast, we know there is still further work to do. We need to lift our competitiveness and our operational discipline. Our historically high inventory levels have been our Achilles' heel for several reasons. We are now moving into a much more balanced position. The sell-down has required sustained effort over an extended period while maintaining margin protection and brand integrity. No small task. Looking ahead, disciplined capital deployment remain a core focus, particularly as we continue to manage inventory settings and support the balance sheet. A key factor for my joining Comvita was the strength of our value chain. In my view, there is no stronger value chain in our sector. From superior to supply to brand strength to the depth and reach of our distribution, this is why we will win. We must continue to improve as fully leveraging all of those competitive advantages and executing consistently to win the market. On the supply side, our superior Manuka cultivars developed over many years and planted across our owned and managed forests are now over indexing production of the highest quality, high efficiency -- high efficacy Manuka honey that consumers are increasingly seeking. Our supply risk is mitigated through geographic diversification and a balanced mix of internal and external supply. And our production facility at Paengaroa supported by our on-site laboratory which is unique globally ensures we deliver the highest quality, most tested honey in the market. We often reference our position as the global #1 Manuka brand, but what matters the most is how we show up for our consumers. Our premium brand positioning across the eastern and western markets is underpinned by scientific research that validates efficacy. Our own retail and direct-to-consumer channels deepen consumer understanding, insights and consumer engagement. And our broad product portfolio, backed by leading innovation and multichannel distribution, particularly across Asia, positions us to meet the needs of consumers wherever they are. And we'll hear a little bit about that from Rommel shortly. From 2022 to 2025, our global distribution points, excluding U.K. and Europe, grew from approximately 2,400 to 7,900. Comvita-branded stand-alone stores and store-in-stores in Asia grew from 169 to 202 stores or a 20% increase. We continue to look at how we optimize our own store network, considering the branding role of those stores and, of course, the profitability across that network of different stores. We are seeing some early signs of stabilization in China. However, this is a region where we expect recovery to be slow and uneven. Importantly, Comvita has retained its #1 brand position and remains the leader in online sales. Key priorities have been delivered, including bringing e-commerce management back under direct Comvita leadership and control and exiting several underperforming distribution agreements. Oversupply, softer demand and heightened competition, particularly in the lower UMF grades and digital channels continue to book pressure across the entire sector on volumes and margins. However, we see meaningful opportunities to stabilize and improve performance in this region. These include the volume potential in large-scale retail and online channels, growth in our premium UMF positioning and innovation beyond honey in a jar. North America is the fastest-growing Manuka honey market and is a must-win core for Comvita. The volume growth delivered through our new club retail partnerships has delivered multiple benefits, and we've seen very good growth in the natural retail channel as well. We have simplified our product range and our business model and are now much more focused on truly commercial outcomes. We have more work to do with intensifying channels, especially in our online channels, such as Amazon, and we need to lift our capability and performance to cut through the noise. There are also opportunities in other large format retailers and a new product formats. Diversifying our customer base and accelerating our penetration and online retail remains our key priority. Investing into education in North America with our science-led innovation is one of our key initiatives. Across Australia, New Zealand, Southeast Asia, Europe, U.K. and the Middle East, we are seeing a mixed picture with intensifying competition a consistent theme. Rommel will speak shortly to our strong progress in Singapore and the broader Southeast Asian market, where retail optimization and brand work are driving real growth and opening pathways across the wider region. In ANZ, the performance is improving, supported by an earlier-than-expected recovery in the Asian health or daigou channel. And we are also starting to see positive signs from tourism, though spending patterns remain well below pre-COVID levels. In the U.K. and Europe, the transition to a distributor model is now delivering better-than-expected margin benefits as the cost base reduces. Across these markets, key opportunities include expanding distribution in Southeast Asia and the Middle East, optimizing our Singapore store footprint and improving our ANZ performance through margin management and global pricing alignment. Having a capable and high-performing global team is critical to enable Comvita's future success. I have already mentioned our focus on building depth and our leadership team. And we are also working to ensure we have great consumer and customer-facing teams in our global markets. As I said, there are more people based offshore than inshore. I'm pleased to share that despite all of our uncertainties, challenges and distractions, we have seen a significant improvement in our employee Net Promoter Score since May 2025. We know we have significant more work to do in this area, however. We want all of our team to return home safely every day. This is an unwavering priority and commitment to our team globally from apiaries to our store promoters. During 2025, we delivered significant improvements in our key health and safety metrics, including recognition at the New Zealand Workplace Health and Safety Awards in 2025 when we won the engagement category. As you can see, our total recorded injury frequency rate is significantly lower than last year showing the fruits from all the team's efforts. A wonderful result. While we have previously been possibly doing too much and we are focusing our efforts more and more acutely now on delivering results that do not shy away from new product development where we seek a clear place to win. And this is one example. Innovation is going to be critical for our future success, and I'd like to share with you 2 examples of exciting new products that have recently launched in our global markets. I know many of our female consumers have been excited by this great-tasting product, which provides female and health support powered by cranberry, targeted probiotics and UMF 10 plus Honey. This product has been launched to success across selected Asian markets. I'm also very excited to share with you a new offering at the premium end of the market, showcasing our supplier -- our superior supply model, craftsmanship and leadership. The honey for this product was sourced exclusively from our own Manuka cultivars planted on [ Manawamy ] Station. It retails for over $1,500 a jar. Last week, one customer purchased 5 jars at once from our wellness lab. As I said at the start of my address, our combined premium branding science-based and genuine provenance story is better than any other player in the Manuka market. This is why we will win. So it gives me great pleasure to now hand over to Mandy Tomkins-Dancey, Comvita's new CFO. Thank you, Mandy.

Mandy Tomkins-Dancey

Executives
#5

Good afternoon, everyone. It's a pleasure to be here today and to update on our FY '26 financial performance and the tangible progress that we're making as we continue to reset and strengthen the business. As you've heard already today, the key underlying drivers of our business performance are improving. Revenue and gross profit are ahead of expectations so far this year and are expected to remain on track with our full year guidance. This result has been supported by positive changes to our distributor arrangements in China and favorable currency movements. Our gross margin recovery is on track. Our gross margin percentage is currently just under our target, reasonable given the strong club retail volumes that we're seeing. I note that these club retail contracts are profitable, and these volumes have allowed us to accelerate our inventory reduction program. The chart on screen clearly shows the favorable impact of this club retail volume on both our inventory levels and the increased production throughput in our plants, which is driving lower marginal costs. Having been in the role since October, what gives me confidence in our future is the progress that has already been made and the clarity of execution priorities in place to drive sustainable profitability. Most key financial metrics are on or ahead of target. Combined with our quality production assets, we have a scalable business model that requires very little growth CapEx to generate good returns. I'm encouraged by the Comvita team who have their eyes open to the challenges, have the capability to deliver this strategy and have done what they said they would do at pace. They've strengthened internal controls, delivered improved profitability, reduced working capital, being disciplined in investment choices and applied the resulting free cash flow to reduce debt. As highlighted in our recent NZX announcement regarding our agreement with lending partners, our banking facilities will reduce by $16 million by the end of March. We are comfortable with this reduction. There is much more to do, both in lifting outperformance and in materially reducing our debt position. You've heard Karl and Bridget speak into these challenges. But overall, the early signs of momentum are encouraging, and we are well positioned to build on them. And I'm really proud to be part of this team that takes Comvita forward. I'll now hand you back to Karl. Thank you.

Karl Gradon

Executives
#6

Thanks, Mandy. I must say it's been great in the last month working with Mandy. It's been great. Our strategy is one where we need to continue to build sustainable enduring value. The team and I are firmly focused on moving forward at pace to deliver. Before I finish, I wanted to share an overview of our key strategic imperatives for the medium and longer term. In the shorter term, our objectives are simple. We need to win in Manuka honey. The longer term and bigger opportunity is that we can build a world-leading health and wellness brands centered around Manuka and extending our offerings around immunity, gut health and wound care. I want to be clear: We are taking accountability as a team for delivering improved, strong and consistent shareholder returns across market cycles. Critical objectives include strengthening our balance sheet and delivering sustainable operating models. Our key strategic objectives for the next 3 years are clear. Firstly, we must grow volumes, particularly in the lower UMF categories through market diversification. We must extend our distribution and customer and business partnerships. Industry consolidation may also provide further opportunities. Secondly, we must clearly differentiate our brand and products from our competitors through the consumer benefits we deliver. The U.S.A. is a key market for us. We are focused on both online and offline growth, alongside product diversification. And fourthly, we must -- we need to continue to optimize our business model and our cost structures to compete effectively, maintain our value proposition and deliver profitable growth. Critical to the successful delivery of these strategies will be our capable team, our consumer and scientific understanding, our digital marketing capability and having globally aligned processes and systems. And most importantly, we need to ensure all of our decisions and activities are managed through strong commercial discipline and rigor to avoid the mistakes of the past and support, most importantly, the prioritization of your capital and our focus. This is my commitment to you. As well as sharing information on how we are resetting the balance for future growth, we also wanted to give our shareholders a chance to understand in more detail how we are driving improved performance on the ground in our key markets. I'm absolutely delighted to have Rommel Irwan here with us today to talk to you all. Rommel heads up our Southeast Asian and Middle East markets. He is a key member of our global leadership team and is helping lead Southeast Asia's improve performance and drive future success of Comvita. He's got quite a decent CV. Rommel is a pharmacist by training and previously led one of Malaysia's largest pharmacy chains. He has over 20 years' experience building successful FMCG and wellness brands across Southeast Asia. And I'd like -- now like to hand over to Rommel to share with you his insights into Singapore and our broader exciting Southeast Asian markets.

Rommel Irwan

Executives
#7

Thank you, Karl, for the kind introduction. Hi, everyone. Thank you for the opportunity today to share how Comvita is showing up and positioning in Singapore and Southeast Asia, one of Comvita's fastest-growing markets. Southeast Asia, including Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam, represents a huge market opportunity for Comvita with many largely untapped markets. The region has one of the youngest populations with an average age of less than 40 years old. They are digitally savvy and have the fastest-growing GDP globally. Consumers in Southeast Asia are particularly concerned about their immunity, family health and natural wellness. And the growing middle class is increasingly looking for premium science-backed products. They are also strong digital platform users, all of which represent significant opportunities for Comvita to leverage. Southeast Asia is a strategic growth region for Comvita. Singapore, currently, is our largest market, and it's a gateway, the best and the key influencer market for expansion into the rest of the region, including Middle East. Many of these markets are still underpenetrated by the Manuka honey category. For many, many years, Comvita has been trying to get traction in Singapore. To support our strategy for growth in this region, we acquired Honey World back in July year 2023. We now have 15 stores across Singapore, including our flagship store at Tangs Orchard, which has recently been refurbished. Our distribution now extends across premium pharmacies, travel retail channel and various other digital channels. The Honey World acquisition gave us immediate scale in Singapore's honey category, securing over 50% of market share. The retail network provided a platform to build brand visibility and engagement, increase leverage with other major customers and provided access to an extensive consumer database. However, the acquisition has also proved challenging and has not performed upfront as expected. Many stores were not profitable. In addition, there were too many competing brands, and the over reliance on high discounting to drive sales have impacted overall long-term brand equity. Since taking over Honey World, we have remained focused on turning the Singapore market around and increasing profitability. We are working on reviewing the store network to set up the optimal number and location of stores to ensure profitability in the long term. There is ongoing work enhancing our brand proposition through leveraging our global assets with localized campaigns and products including new innovations. We continue to expand our distribution network in Singapore, and of course, the broader region of Southeast Asia across multiple pharmacy brands, other travel retail and other new channels. And most importantly, we are building sales momentum and delivering stable profitability in this financial year. I would now like to play a short video to share some of the highlights of the fantastic work the team on the ground is doing in Singapore. [Presentation] That's a really quick showcase of what we're doing in Singapore But if you are ever down in the market, please don't be a stranger, reach out to me, and I'll be more than glad to show you guys around. All right? So you all will notice that -- I mean you were seated earlier. Each of you will have received these goody bags, right? So I'm very excited to share that inside this goody bag, we have a new product which we just launched 2 weeks ago in the selected Asian market, right? It's an eye health product, eye capsule,and this is meant for adults aged 18 years old and above, right? So take a look at your goody bag, right? Very easy to take. It's just 1 capsule a day. All right. Well, if you all noticed, we have set up a very small display table behind you. Please come to see me afterwards. Don't be shy, touch a product, feel the product, right? Don't just look at the product. I want everybody to feel how the product actually turned out in the market outside of New Zealand and Australia, right? If you have any other questions and you would like to learn more about Southeast Asia and our innovations, please feel free to ask me after this. I'd now like to hand the session back to Bridget to continue with the formalities of the meeting. Thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#8

Rommel, thank you very much. I hope the goody bag gives you a sense of not only the eye health product, but a couple of others as well. We now move into the formal part of the meeting. And with that in mind, we have the formal business and the resolutions. So at each item of business, I'll call for questions related to that item. I ask that any questions raised be related specifically to that item, and there will be a further time for general Q&A and general business at the end of the session. We want all shareholders to have the opportunity to have their say. And so we would ask in respect to all shareholders and those online that you keep your question concise, limit your questions, and be respectful to other shareholders who are in the room. I'll now open the floor for any questions relating to the annual reports, financial statements and other reports. Are there any questions relating to those matters, questions relating to the annual report, financial statements or other reports? Yes?

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#9

I have a question relating to the [indiscernible] but particularly relating to the Board. We might address it. But I understand that the Board has engaged a number of independent advisers and consultants in addition to the lawyers to assist the Board. And so I'd like to know what's the total cost of these advisers to assist the Board for the year end of March, June 2025. And possibly, if you could come up with a number what's cost the Board for this advice to the Board up to date. And the second part of my question is how much of this cost is associated with the Florenz proposal? And thirdly, whereabouts in the financial statements for the year end of June '25 are these costs disclosed?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#10

So firstly, the numbers are -- to the FY '25 are disclosed in the statement at that time. The costs for the period since will be disclosed in the results announcement that you will receive in February, which is the -- relating to the half year to the end of December 2025. Mike, I'm not sure if we have a number, Mandy, in terms of adviser fees?

Michael Sang

Executives
#11

The point is that the costs are basically capitalized on the balance sheet. So you know whether the scheme [indiscernible] the costs associated. The costs associated with the Florenz scheme were capitalized and not expensed during the last financial period because they were linked to the success or failure of the scheme with the Florenz [ crop. ] So those costs will be expensed in this new financial period. Now that the Florenz scheme has been voted against, and we will report on those and disclose them in our half year accounts in February.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#12

So the numbers -- excuse me, if not noticing it, but the numbers to June '25 for the advice to the Board. And I'd like to know why the Board needed all of this advice. Can you give us that number? I'm sorry, I didn't notice it in the accounts, but do you have that number?

Michael Sang

Executives
#13

I don't think there was a [indiscernible] number in the -- that financial period because we were occurring and capitalizing with the accounts waiting to see whether that capital raising process was successful or not because they are then offset against the capital raise proceeds. [indiscernible] paid for by the buyer successful. So there is very little in last financial year. The costs are actually to the Board, the company advice. But the Board obviously, you have to make the decision and the recommendations. So those costs will be disclosed in our half year accounts. All of them basically.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#14

Right. And the break fee that Florenz had included in their proposal, is that to be paid by the company?

Michael Sang

Executives
#15

No. The break fee was really a break fee if we showed bad faith or changed our minds. For example, if we got a better offer from someone else and we changed our minds, then we would have paid Florenz a break fee. So there will be no break fee paid to Florenz.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#16

Right. But the total cost of of all of your efforts, advisers and so forth lawyers, dealing with the Florenz proposal, do you have a number for that?

Michael Sang

Executives
#17

We do. We'll disclose it in our half year accounts.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#18

Thank you. Thanks very much. We will now consider it, yes. Sorry, I didn't see your name.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#19

I would like to note, please, how did you manage to reduce debt by $17 million last year?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#20

Cash flow. Management of the company and a far more -- and that's the broad answer. I mean there's a wide range of different operational improvements, but in essence, generating cash flow and being able to pay down debt, that was the total sum in that period, yes, to $17.4 million.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#21

So did you have to sell assets?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#22

As I recall, there was one small asset sale, but primarily was from operational improvement. Thank you. Yes. Thank you.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#23

Oliver from New Zealand Shareholders Association. Just a question on the impairments, a question for the auditors as well. So one of the items that impaired was a building, and perhaps that building has some sort of specialized function or perhaps located in a place where it has specialized value for Comvita and no one else, which perhaps drove the impairment. But I guess my question for auditors why did that only show up as part of the FY '25 accounts and not impaired earlier. If that condition holds true, why was it not impaired earlier [ for '25 '25 ]?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#24

Mike? Yes, thanks.

Michael Sang

Executives
#25

I'm not sure specifically what building, but we did have a number of improvements made to a range of our buildings, expanding capacity and improvements and whatnot. Those capacity improvements didn't result in increased cash flow. So we wrote down some of those assets as a result of that. But if we step back and have a look at the big picture because of the nature of the IFRS standards around the value and use that required us to ultimately write the net equity down to certain value. So effectively, we had to find the assets that enable us to do that. And many of those assets have still got potential to be written back, but they are subject to the improvement in the underlying performance of the company. Obviously, with the progress, and I'd say this really everything crossed. The progress in the last 6 months -- and as we continue to improve the company, if we can sustain that improvement and continue to produce operating profits, then we will be reviewing a number of those assets and reviewing our position on them over time.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#26

Thank you. Oliver, if you'd like to speak more with Glenn or Mike afterwards.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#27

I'll do that after the meeting. Thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#28

Yes, Alan?

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#29

Just a little further to that, Mike, because look, the reality is that we're sitting here with shareholders, and we find that the plant and equipment, for instance, has gone from, I don't know, $10 million down to $157,000, which is completed nonsense. We know that. So as the performance improves and those -- you're allowed then to write those assets back to some degree, how does that show up in the accounts, please?

Michael Sang

Executives
#30

So it's a very broad generalization to us to simplify things for the conversation. If it's a kind of a tangible or goodwill, we generally don't write them back. So this is more about our fixed assets, including our forest. And so if I take the forest for example, if they continue to improve the quality of the honey, if we continue to improve our ability to take that honey to market at the type of plus $1,500 per [indiscernible], and therefore, we improved the cash flow through our -- business, we will write those assets back up, which would generally be, I guess, a credit other income debit fixed asset type thing. So that will be separately disclosed in the accounts because it will be a kind of one-off nonoperating item. So it will come through the P&L, I believe. Yes, it will come through the P&L and into our balance sheet. So we'll improve profit. But the way we would want to disclose that is to make it very clear, it was related to that particular thing that's not something that would happen every year, obviously.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#31

So in essence, these big impairments came from your view and the auditor's view on the future of the company's trading ability.

Michael Sang

Executives
#32

These improvements came through 2 years of operating losses. They came through class flow projections from each unit within the business, what we call a cash-generating unit. Those cash flow projections are stipulated and guided to what you can and can't assume in them. So I would stress, which I think is at the heart of your point, they are driven by the accounting standards for accounting purposes and don't necessarily reflect what another person would regard as a fair market value of the company.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#33

Thank you, Alan. Again, further discussion after the meeting if you would like to do so with Glenn or Mike. Thank you. We have 3 -- sorry.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#34

Look, I just want [indiscernible]. Not this point is one that really sort of upset the year around the value and use calculation effectively to write down the assets from about $1.60 down to $0.80 roughly. And it was -- these are real assets that -- and they're not goodwill. And just sort of...

Bridget Coates

Executives
#35

I think we've discussed this, Neil, a few...

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#36

Yes. But look, it's something that I think the shareholders should realize that's what actually happened to write-down was effectively done to get it close to the bid price.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#37

Well, I mean, these...

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#38

Nothing more, nothing less.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#39

They weren't -- they were not generating. As Mike just said, they were cash flow negative. It's very hard to have a value for an asset as all of us know if they're not generating value. And so this is at the root of the problem.

Michael Sang

Executives
#40

Can I just say I completely sympathize with the point that I think the point is actually made. Some of the assets were ripped down really were frustrating to the people involved in the process and to the Board. So I am very confident with the process we went through. I think the team, we're very conscious, and we've got some incredibly talented financial accounting team and the work they did through. It was independently reviewed because we knew the sensitivity and the complexity of it to get it through KPMG auditors, extensive time with their technical committee. So it's one of those things that I fully accept the point you're raising, it's valid, it's fair, it's a frustration for shareholders. But from a technical accounting perspective, I would just back the team who are involved in doing the work. And for me personally, simplified, I hate to [indiscernible] them myself, some of them, the team literally had to come back 2 or 3 times before I accepted it. But what I would like to say is that accept point of hopefully, we can put a line under this because what the real focus now should be is improving the operating performance of the company, so we can start recovering those assets back onto our balance sheet. Just probably dissatisfying answer, but I just want to emphasize my sympathy with the point of view.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#41

Yes. Thank you. Oliver, is there another? It's a different question or...

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#42

It is a different question. So I guess the reason the payment as it comes down to capital allocation processes in the past, and you've been very upfront about that in your earlier presentation. We appreciate the transparency. So -- but I guess -- and this is part of make of looking forward as well. So from your perspective, what has changed on the Board because you've been on the Board for a little while in terms of what have you reflected on in terms of failings in that capital allocation process, the investment process, the commerciality and commercial rigor? What has changed for the future? And how does that relate? How can we draw a line happens as to draw a line under those types of capital allocation?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#43

Yes. So you will see -- you have seen from this presentation that there is a renewed focus on the core financial underpinning of the company. We had a company that was not performing well in the financial area. There was a lot of good work done in the operations area, some market leadership was mentioned, but the financial basis of the company was not strong enough. And the confidence that we gather going forward is very much in that area we've tightened up enormously. We have a greater, much tighter focus on delivery of objectives, on the results and on constant monitoring of the company globally. So I think that's where we're getting our main confidence from.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#44

So in terms of investment allocation or capital allocation, what process has changed? So you talked about focus.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#45

Sure. Look, as it stands, every dollar has been employed or deployed to pay down debt. We're not in a position at the moment to undertake capital investments, growth initiatives, in particular, except for the absolutely essential initiatives, and that situation will continue at least until the recapitalization process is completed. So capital allocation, you might say has been forced upon us. but that's a fact. And until we get into it, and then, of course, we have a much greater discipline in the financial area than we might have had at some other points in the past over a number of years. Thank you. Yes, there's 2. Sure.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#46

A number of years ago, I said at a Board meeting and you reported a $20 million loss on your beehive over 3 or 4 years. Your beehive costs are now included in your annual accounts, and none of us can see what its cost to run these outputs or how they're operating. And being a beekeeper, I know that these are still not running at a profit a lot of the time. And I wonder when you're going to do something about it because it's unacceptable. You can probably make [indiscernible] without losing money on your beehives.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#47

It's not just a financial decision that requires us or that encourages us to hold an apiary business as you would well know.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#48

Apiary business but frontier dairy farms, the shrinkers [indiscernible] and who probably to run a certain degree and amount of [indiscernible] You don't have to run the volume you're running with the result that you have from [indiscernible]

Bridget Coates

Executives
#49

I do want to keep the meeting moving because we will run out of time. But thank you for the comment. Karl, would you like to comment?

Karl Gradon

Executives
#50

When there is a strategic imperative -- that's a good question, by the way. When there is a strategic imperative to own an asset, you mentioned Frontier, they do own dairy farms. They own dairy farms next to their factories, so they can deploy their flint into other places. That is their strategic imperative. So there are reasons and times that you need it. Our Providence story going forward is going to be absolutely key. The way that we access our absolute high UMF honey that we have invested into through our plantations is going to be key to that Providence story. It comes back to Mike's point, it is on actually building the value chain all the way through. And at some stages, there will be strategic trade-offs, but I accept that there are always ways...

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#51

We're still losing money on these bees at times. And apart from areas like that where you get a bit of honeybee you mean from Northland. So it's not like you produce only that sort of honey. You have other options, and you can't afford to lose $3 million or $4 million a year on your beehives what you do at times. I know that.

Karl Gradon

Executives
#52

Yes. And I'm not going to argue that point with you either because it is not solely around the UMF level. It's the provenance, the ownership of our brand integrity. So we understand and we are certainly -- we have gone to extensive efforts to reduce the footprint and the cost metal troves here today. And we've optimized that system. Happy to take that off-line with you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#53

Yes, please. Great if you could take that with Trevor, if you wish to do so, yes. Thank you.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#54

I'm Eric, I'm a retail investor over the last 10 years and keeping -- buying shares from retail side over $0.5 million. And today, losing 80% of that, and almost attending 10 annual meetings. And I see most people who -- people standing front [indiscernible]. And today, we got almost 4x of the shareholder attending meeting attending doesn't see a lot of happy face. And I think before the floor and takeover bid, we do receive some other bid before. And as a retail investor, I didn't have velocity information what's happening, why it's been failed, why, what's happening. But for this time and what I'm feeling from my point of view is since you know some [indiscernible] even before that. We received a lot of news from NZX from Comvita announcement, bad news. So share price keeps dropping. And then we receive the box suggests us to take the offer and everyone suggests a takeover, if not be losing everything, maybe company go to liquidation. So that means my $0.5 million is totally gone. And then a lot of news from different areas coming up. And then we don't know what is right, what is wrong. As a retail investor, I think the broader responsibility for every shareholder, but I feel there is no monitor. I don't know who monitor the leader team ship and who is monitor the Board. So we are feeling many since we received a lot of challenging questions from the people who are feeling knowing something internal. I'm from outside. I know nothing. I'm not confident with the system that Comvita Board, management team. And we got 500 staff around, and I receive a lot of noise from the lower under staff who may not working for us anymore, who may outside New Zealand, and they're staying very complex head of the management that Comvita has. So I reminder as a shareholder today, I didn't sell any single shares. I'm still confident in the future. I talked to the new CEO. I just hope we need to have the system to make sure the Board and the management team do working for shareholders.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#55

Yes. Can I just say there is sympathy. We are all shareholders in this room, and we all have suffered very badly. And I think you saw a graph up here. This is not -- some people would like to say this has all happened in the last short period of time. This is not true. The problems have been building for a long time, and they need to be addressed. And this is why, hopefully, the presentation today is focused on very much on the knots and bolts of this company. It's the getting it right at the bottom levels in terms of the way that the company functions. And that way, we will address the concern you have. One of the problems with keeping people informed to shareholders informed as we are subject to onerous disclosure regime in New Zealand. We are unable to talk the way we would like to talk to shareholders is very difficult. And in terms of the approaches that we had from other bidders that were not successful there...

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#56

I understand that half. But what I mean is who are those people in charge? I didn't feeling they're working for shareholders. I feel they may working what [indiscernible] This is what I'm feeling professional for. I do want to make sure the Board Comvita working for us.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#57

Of course. Look, could we talk afterwards? I mean there's a lot to say, and you are looking at the people who are responsible for this company here today. There is nobody else. There is -- we are responsible, and we take accountability. That is our responsibility. And we do understand absolutely what you're saying, but -- and have a great deal of sympathy. Look, I would like to press on, otherwise, we will be here deep into the night. So if I can move on and we should talk.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#58

We have 3 ordinary resolutions to consider today. The first is the appointment and remuneration of KPMG as Comvita's auditors. In terms -- and the second and third are for the election of directors, Bob Major and Greg Barclay. In terms of the voting procedure for these 3 resolutions, please mark your voting paper with for or against. You may have already done so. Thank you. If you were to abstain from voting on the resolution, please mark your voting paper abstain. Online attendees should submit their electronic voting card received when online registration was completed -- was validated. If you are eligible to vote and have not yet got validated, please click Get a Voting Card. This is for instructions for online people. I will call for questions for each resolution. Please keep questions specific to the resolution. And as I've noted, there will be a chance for general questions in the general Q&A. We will respond to questions in the room before turning to questions from the online participants. For those of you in the room, please hold up your voting or nonvoting investor card and wait for a microphone. Before asking your question, please state your name and say whether you are a shareholder or a proxy holder. For shareholders or proxy holders joining online, please click answer the question button at the top or bottom of the website. I will now put the first scheme resolution to shareholders being the resolution that the meeting record the reappointment of KPMG as the auditors of the company for the current financial year ending 30th of June 2026, pursuant to Section 207T of the Companies Act 1993, and authorize the Board to fix KPMG's remuneration. Are there any questions in relation to this resolution from the floor? Are there any questions [indiscernible] this resolution online? Nothing online. So we have no more questions. Please cast your vote accordingly. This is for resolution 1, if you are casting a vote. Thank you. [Voting]

Bridget Coates

Executives
#59

Resolution 2. I will now put the second resolution to shareholders being the resolution that Bob Major, who retires by rotation and is eligible for reelection, be reelected as a Director of the company. Bob is on the screen here, and I will now ask Bob to speak to his nomination. Thanks, Bob.

Unknown Executive

Executives
#60

Waiting for the slide with my experience.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#61

There we go. Thank you.

Unknown Executive

Executives
#62

So now to the slide, I want to introduce myself or turning about my history because it's up there. But I will say that I stood in front of you 6 years ago when I first was elected to the Board and I told you a little story. And the story that I told was that we know used to live in Shanghai, which was 15 to 18 years ago. It's a long time ago now. When I used to live in Shanghai, I used to go shopping on my local supermarket, which is Carrefour. And across the mall from the Carrefour, I see a little shop, a Comvita shop. And I'd look at it with wonder. And I think how can a little -- how can a little company from the Bay of Plenty have a shop half across the world. in one of the biggest cities in the world. And that sense of wonder is still there. I mean there's a lot to be proud of within Comvita. It's got global REIT. It's got an unparalleled market share. It's got a very, very strong brand. It's got a good ethos of flows through the company, and it's got a lot of very good people within the company. But against that, mistakes have been made, and I've been a member of the Board, has presided over a few of those mistakes. And a member, the Board needs to take about accountability for a fair few of those mistakes. But actions have been taken. Comvita now is a very different company to what it was 15 to 18 months ago. We've got a new CFO -- sorry, new CEO, who's doing an excellent job. We've got almost a totally new management team with a single exception of Jackie, Head of Science, who's still there. But the Board level have been substantial changes. In fact, of the Board of Directors, when I joined 6 years ago, I'm the only one still remaining on the Board. So a lot of changes at those levels. Within the company over the last 15 to 18 months, we've got overheads down. We've got costs down substantially. Inventory is down and debt is down. We've got positive cash flows for the first time in a fair few years. But we're not out of the woods yet. There's still quite a long way to go. But as Bridget and as Karl have already showed you, we've got a clear pathway forward. So we've got a plan in place, and we're starting to enact against it. And so with your support, I'd like to be part of the team that gets us there. So thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#63

Thank you. Thank you, Bob. Thank you very much. I will now -- are there any questions in relation to this resolution? Yes?

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#64

How many vacancies are there on the Board?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#65

There are 2 vacancies today that you are being asked to vote on. That is for Bob Major and Greg Barclay.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#66

Just a question. I see you've got a staff of 400 people, and the CEO is getting a fee of $600,000 a year, where the CEO of the Tarawanga City Council is on a similar wage. Now I can't see a comparison between the CEO and some of the incomes that these people are making when we've had a failed Board. And for years, you're trying to tell us now that you were going to make you money, but you haven't, and you have failed. And as a Board is your embarrassment. And I believe that.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#67

Can I just remind you that Karl joined 4 months ago? This is not a Chief Executive who has been presided over a company in a decline. And so I would like to make that point. Yes, we can't talk about individual remuneration arrangements, people can decide whether they think that $600,000 is high or low or reasonable for the role, which is a global role, 400 people running a company of $230 million, $220 million. So that we can perhaps discuss that after the meeting. Thank you. Is there anything further? Yes? Thank you. Behind you.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#68

I'm Mark, Comvita shareholder for a very long time. So Bob, you've been on Board since 2019, so did you know about the problems building in the company? And if you did, what did you do about it?

Unknown Executive

Executives
#69

I have certainly raised attention to the problems built within the company. And I think that being on a Board is a funny sort of thing, you make your points known at Board level. Decisions are making, you only hope that people listen to what you need to say, what we have to say. And then the Board makes a decision, and there's a collective responsibility among the Board for everyone that stay everything. Decisions are finally taken. But that holds true every board in [indiscernible]. So I've seen the issues. The Board means were seeing the issues. We've discussed together, we discussed with the management team and on balance, we've taken decisions together and moved forward. And that's -- we have moved forward in areas that we should not have moved forward in, and we regret that, but we have now cleaned out a lot of the areas of the areas that have arisen, and we're moving forward.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#70

Yes.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#71

[indiscernible] part of the out presided over David Vanadis, the CEO, and he was absolutely terrible for this company. And you guys knew what was going on, your adviser knew what was going on, and you did nothing. What are you guys going to do or make sure these decisions that you make are right going forward.

Unknown Executive

Executives
#72

I've got a greater degree of comment to the management team we've currently got in place. In terms of other decisions, right? I think that someone was talking before about shareholders. And I think that one of the things that we had not done well in recent years for a whole variety of reasons is the shareholders. So I think listening to shareholders is important.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#73

You guys were not for you at a grassroots level and you guys had nothing about it. And the Board members are basically the same people, Chair included. And to be honest, I'd like to see a complete change. It's not -- unless we know that you're going to at change, change meaningful changes. We -- listening to the same stuff next year.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#74

Could I just say with respect to that challenge, which is not one that we have clearly had from others as well. We are -- the company for all the positive views that have been expressed today is by no means out of the woods yet, as I'm sure you are aware. We still have an enormous amount of work to do. We are dependent on the goodwill of our banks. In particular, the bank is looking to the current Board to deliver against the recapitalization process. And that means the existing people on the Board and the existing management team. This is a relatively difficult time. It would be extremely risky and detrimental to the company for the Board to take any other track at the moment other than maintain the course of action that we are on. You might have a different point of view, but our banking partners do not. They are committed to this team and to the course of action that we have set. And could I just ask also, we are trying to get this meeting forward-looking. And if we keep on going back into history, we're not going to be able to get to the end of this meeting. There's plenty to say and there's plenty of criticism to go around, and we certainly take our share of blame. That's not that. But I don't think it's particularly productive to the point and blame that people who are doing their very best to service this company and sometimes things happen that do not turn out the way that we would all want.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#75

[indiscernible]

Bridget Coates

Executives
#76

4:00. Yes. Thank you. So with that in mind, can I just ask if there are any further questions. Otherwise, we will cast your vote. I will now put the scheme resolution to you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#77

Bob Major, who retires by rotation and is eligible for reelection, be reelected as a director of the company. I'm sorry, I didn't ask if there's any questions online.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#78

No questions online. William on the mic. Can I just ask all shareholders in the room to wait until you've got a microphone before you ask a question. People who are listening in online can't hear you otherwise.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#79

Thank you very much for the reminder. So we will do that. Please cast a vote accordingly, and we will move now to resolution 3. [Voting]

Bridget Coates

Executives
#80

So I will now put the third scheme resolution to you, as shareholders, being the resolution that Greg Barclay, who has been nominated by an equity security holder, be elected as Director of the company. The Board considers that Greg Barclay does qualify as an independent director. I will now ask Greg to speak in relation to his nomination. Thanks, Greg.

Unknown Executive

Executives
#81

Thanks, Bridget. Good afternoon, everyone. First of all, thank you very much for the opportunity to introduce myself. I do want to thank and acknowledge the Board both for their support and the endorsement that I've had from the independent directors. I think when I first was rang and asked whether I'd accept the nomination Comvita really. But I did a bit of work, and I was very fortunate. I could speak to Neil Craig, who I've known for a number of years, and he managed to sort of walk me through both history. And I think that led to the potential of the company. And if I go back to the presentations that we've had this afternoon, which are excellent, I think you can see both the capability and the potential that this company has. So after -- it wasn't a long period of time that I had to consider it. But I thought, yes, it's a challenge, but the opportunity that sits and behind that challenge as well we're pursuing. So I said that I was very happy for the nomination to go forward, and ultimately I'm here at your behest. So let's see how that goes. But I think in terms of me, there are a couple of things that I considered. First of all, why I would do this. For me, personally, I am -- I grew up on a farm, a land from Guzman on a rural boy by upbringing, and I'm acutely aware of how important both primary production and exporters to this country, probably never more so than now to help us get out of the crappy situation that we find ourselves as a country. With that, I think those companies that lead the way of those that innovate and understand that they're adding the value. And I think this company is one that demonstrates that can do that, that it has the potential to do that, and that should be recognized as one of New Zealand's sort of leading export examples. The second thing is probably, by affinity to the area, when my parents sold up, they moved across here to [indiscernible] world. So that was 25 years ago. So I and the family have spent quite a lot of time down here. I also Chair a company called Pacific Forest Products, which is a large -- in fact, is Australasia's largest log export company. It exports through New Zealand, 50% of it is volume out of the Port of Taro. So I spend a reasonable amount of time down here with that business. And in fact, half the logs that you see on the game across the war will be forest products log. So it's coming that started 20-odd years ago from nothing, and it's grown to what it is now. I guess the next thing is in terms of support and opportunity, I was, for a period of time, on the Board of New Zealand Craig. I was fortunate enough to Chair New Zealand Cricket for a few years. Again, I had Neil on the Board, and, as you can imagine, about the development of [indiscernible]. I was very supportive of that work closely to get that up to international standard from an event point of view. So again, I've taken a lot of delight in seeing that is an asset of the community to develop to the extent that it has. And I guess the final point just in terms of my personal view is that Comvita is an iconic company, but it's also -- it has the potential to become an iconic New Zealand company. And I'd love to be involved to see if we can't actually fulfill that potential moving forward. In terms of what I can offer the company, my background is -- I'm a commercial corporate lawyer. I have spent a reasonable amount of time and the capital markets were unlisted companies with begin finance. So I think that I have something that I can add to the company, is probably particularly relevant at the present point in time. I think that my legal background also helps me bring some discipline and rigor to a Board setting. And I think that I can help to maybe shape, as Bridget said, the course of the company as it moves forward. Governance experience, I've been involved in governance for probably 25 years or more. Recent appointments. I joined the Board of Smartpay, which was an NZX-, ASX-listed company, dual-listed company. I Chaired that for 8 years right through until this time last month when the company was sold successfully under a scheme of arrangement. The outcome for shareholders was pretty good. So I had a -- group experience in terms of taking the company from $30-odd million market cap through to in excess of $300 million when it was sold, as I say, last month. I currently sit on the board of [indiscernible], which is also NZX-listed company. It's an exporter of some fairly complex technology used in aerospace, telecommunications and the defense industries globally. Again, should be [indiscernible] New Zealand company and hopefully, with some plans that we put in place it will be as well. So my experience is particularly relevant in terms of adjacency set of experience on Boards. As I said, export-wise, I have had the experience for 20-odd years with Pacific Forest Products. So I think I sort of understand what it takes to get product from here and out through the globe. But coupled with that, I've also hedged, as I say, a reasonable amount of sports governance experience. I alluded to New Zealand Credit. New Zealand Credit is effectively an exporter as well. I know I spent a lot of time growing both the exposure and opportunity for the company out of India, which had no relationship with the world's largest crediting country and also the Middle East. And I think in part that helped me later on when I got appointed to the Chair of the International Credit Council, a $4 billion company based out of Dubai. And at its global reach, it's, obviously, of the world signals export and it's growing rapidly. So as I said, I think that I have some prudent experiences. I know that it's been a long afternoon, so I won't keep you here any longer. But for me, I'm looking forward to the challenge if I'd be appointed. I think there's a lot to do, obviously, but there's a lot of upside to the company as well. So if you see fit to appoint me to your Board, rest assured, I'm quite prepared to put the work, and I appreciate the challenge. But most of all, I really look forward to unlocking the undoubted opportunity that's in front of Comvita So thank you for your time this afternoon.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#82

Thank you very much. Excellent. Right.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#83

We have received a presubmitted question in relation to Greg -- the resolution relating to Greg. This was a question regarding who nominated Greg as a director. The answer was Alan Bougen, and that was noted in the notice of meeting. So that is the answer to that question. Are there any other questions in relation to Greg's nomination that you would like to put from the floor. Are there any questions online?

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#84

Nothing online.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#85

Thank you. There's no question. There's no more questions. Would you please cast your vote. [Voting]

Bridget Coates

Executives
#86

Thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#87

I am going to the slide that's going to be put up is the proxies that have been received for the 3 resolutions, and that will come up on the screen. This is the last call for votes. MUFG, can you now please collect the voting papers from the shareholders in the room. They are coming down with their boxes now. So please, would you make your voting papers ready if you have them with you. Online attendee, you should now submit their votes, if you have not already done so. You will see a timer on screen that you have 5 minutes remaining to submit your votes. Thank you for your votes, and voting will be closed as soon as the votes are collected. [Voting]

Bridget Coates

Executives
#88

Just a couple of minutes while they pick up the papers. Thank you. Are there any votes that have not been collected? Thank you. With the formal resolutions completed, I'd now I'd like to offer the shareholders the chance to ask any questions that they would like to as part of general business.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#89

So before we do that, there have been several pre-submitted questions. which I will run through for you. And then you will -- I'll then invite you to ask your questions. The first, can you inform shareholders on the profitability of the apiary division? [indiscernible]. I'm not sure. Our answer. Our apiaries deliver value. They give us certainty of supply, particularly of high-quality, high UMF honey. They support trust in our brand, and they reduce exposure to third-party pricing volatility and quality issues. The apiary business is fully accounted for in -- within the business P&Ls, with clear accountability for cost control and for delivering profitability over a rolling 5-year period. Like all agricultural operations, performance does vary in the apiary business with climate and commodity cycles. Profitability can be challenging in failing markets, and strong in periods of tight supply. That variability is inherent in the industry We won't provide any more detailed profitability guidance as it is commercially sensitive. Thank you. Regarding continuous disclosure, how can you reconcile earlier statements that the Florenz scheme was the only option with the recent banking accommodation announcement? I know this is a pertinent question for many. The recent banking accommodation reflects the ongoing dialogue with our lenders, which continued through the scheme process and following the shareholders' decision not to approve the scheme by the requisite approval that happened in August. It also reflects the progress made by the company in the meantime. There was no certainty. And I can honestly say there was no decision to that further accommodation would be provided by our banking syndicate. The banks have granted accommodation. They have granted many accommodations over the last 18 months. And many of them, we have not been successful at meeting their accommodations, and to be honest, the level of trust and confidence was at an extremely low level. At the time the scheme was announced, it was the only fully funded, defined and executable option that was available to us that addressed both shareholder liquidity and the company's balance sheet risk. It was the Board's responsibility to put that option in front of you as shareholders for your consideration. The scheme also provided the company with critical time and support from our banking syndicate while the proposal was being assessed by shareholders. The scheme booklet, including the independent advisers report, clearly sets out the company's position at that time, and that was an independent review, including the key risks facing Comvita and its shareholders and the reason shareholders may choose to vote for or against the scheme. As we indicated, there was no certainty that further covenant waivers would be granted. The recent banking combination that we announced last week reflects some subsequent developments including progress delivered already through the operational research, which we have talked about today to you an improved trading performance and the work undertaken during the scheme process itself. Those factors supported an extension and a covenant accommodation while the recapitalization pathway was being progressed. At all times, Comvita has met its continuous disclosure requirements, and we'll continue to do so. So we have always made all the information available to the markets that we have been required to do so. Question: To preserve cash and better align incentives, will the Board consider paying senior management bonuses entirely or in part in Comvita shares instead of cash? Many NZX companies do this to tighten cash flow and improve alignment. The answer: Yes, we understand this logic, and we keep remuneration settings very much under review to ensure they support performance, alignment and cash discipline within the company. Our remuneration principles and approach are disclosed in our annual report, which I would refer to you, and in our directors and officers' remuneration policy, which is published on our website. Any changes would need to be considered carefully within the broader remuneration framework and would be disclosed to you as required. Our immediate priority is disciplined execution, cash -- management of cash and the recapitalization of the business. So it's certainly something we have on active consideration. Does Comvita have any clawback or malice provisions regarding the -- allowing the company to recover bonuses or performance share rights, PSRs? If not, will the company commit to introducing clawback? And on what time frame? There are no clawback provisions currently in employment agreement and no current PSRs are outstanding. The Board has determined that any future PSRs or long-term incentive plans will have clawback provisions included. Question: Regarding loans to members of the leadership team and to equity accounted investees, can the Board outlining the governance and approval processes that applied to these arrangements and how this aligns with the company's broader financial discipline given its financial -- the balance sheet position? Has the Board considered adopting a formal policy governing loans or financial support to related parties going forward. Any related part -- the answer is any related party matters are subject to governance processes, including contract management, approval controls and audit oversight. We understand the concerns about these decisions that have been made historically. And we agree that Comvita's capital must always be applied with strong commercial discipline moving forward. This is central to our reset program. If you have heard one thing that is the control of capital, it's absolutely critical, and we continue to make significant progress in the implementation of tighter internal controls. Question: Have you seen recent commentary about the Board by Eden Bradfield? What is your response to it? Those of you who don't know Eden Bradfield is a journalist who has been writing a particularly negative comments about the company. The answer is yes, we are aware, of course, of Eden Bradfield's commentary. We believe that it is far more constructive to focus on the work underway to stabilize the company. However, as this question has been raised, we welcome the opportunity to provide clarity on his very selective interpretation of the company's history that he has included in his articles. We do not accept the wholesale change at the Board level would deliver a better outcome. Comvita is in the middle of progressing our recapitalization process, and this is the question that we had previously. Stability and continuity of governance are absolutely critical. This directly impacts lender, investor and market confidence. You might have seen Karl's article the other day. He talked about the necessity to regain confidence, regain shareholder confidence, regain banker confidence and regain investor confidence more broadly. And this is absolutely critical, and we do not believe that the wholesale change at the Board level would achieve that. Many of the many of the complex issues the company faces are the result of strategies that have been implemented over time. It's not the result of just one -- couple of missteps over the recent past, which is what was implied in that article. The Board and leadership team today continue to work with urgency collectively and with good alignment to stabilize and reposition the company and to implement the reset strategy that we have described to you. As you have seen today, this work is delivering progress. There is still a lot of work ahead, but we are on Comvita far, far firmer footing than it was a year ago, and that's where all of our focus should be and keeping that work going. I would now like to offer you the chance to ask any questions that you would like to have. Could I ask that you keep these questions concise and respectful of other shareholders, especially in light of the time frame. As we have limited time, please do not ask questions about marketing initiatives or new products because I think those should be best directed to Karl or the management team, and they would be delighted to accept questions or comments about marketing, packaging, strategies in the marketing area after the meeting. If you would be able to do that, it would be appreciated. A reminder for shareholders and proxy holders who are joining online, please click the Ask a Question button if you would like to do so. And we will receive that in the room. Now are there any questions from the floor? Yes. Thank you.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#90

Thank you, Bridget. So just -- and very much for the night of the future, just in the context of Comvita's recent past. So what plans does the Board have in terms of actually rebuilding shareholder trust through engagement and aligning shareholders for that view of the future that Comvita now has?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#91

Yes. Could you comment first on the management side, and then I'll comment from the Board side.

Karl Gradon

Executives
#92

Thank you. I anticipate, as CEO, taking a much more proactive engagement with the multiple stakeholders, many of the people in the room actually, to keep people abreast both formally and informally, but within the -- obviously, the disclosure obligations that we have on an ongoing basis, being a listed company. But I do believe we're a great community asset. We need to represent the community we operate in both in Paengaroa, Bay of Plenty New Zealand and connecting at a formal and informal level on an ongoing basis is going to be a much higher priority for us.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#93

Thank you, Karl.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#94

From the Board point of view, as you know, we have a significant institutional shareholder base, and we have or actually more than 2 large shareholders offshore. So it is my duty as Board Chair to make sure that the contact is maintained with those shareholders and make sure that they are fully informed with where we are proceeding. This presentation today has been an excellent opportunity to make sure that everybody is up to speed. And of course, Karl and I and the Board as a whole, welcome your subsequent comments, thoughts and engagement, and we'll continue to do that.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#95

Thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#96

Could I have any other questions? Sure. You're welcome.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#97

So I'm part of an industry. I've been [indiscernible] over 50 years. Some of my colleagues in excess of 50 years. Now hives went from 300,000 in -- prior to 2000 up to 950,000. They're now plummeting. They're probably below 450,000, heading southwards. You're rapidly going to be approaching a supply problem. And as a beekeeper that started supplying you were near in this middle shift down the bottom here, which is over 35 years before a lot of us got unceremoniously dumped by David, I want to know what you guys are going to do to secure your supply as a shareholder. You've also got significant environmental conditions to overall, that's having a big impact on hives [indiscernible] if you don't look after your suppliers, whoever they may be, you will run into supply problems because at the moment, you don't have a good rep amongst -- thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#98

Thank you.

Karl Gradon

Executives
#99

Ironically, one of the ways to do it is to ensure that we have our own hives as well to offset some of that risk. I have spoken not just about the way that we will engage and rebuild the trust with our shareholders, our bankers and lenders but all stakeholders. And for me, the beekeepers, we spoke about this in Auckland as well. That is incredibly important part of our fabric within our sector.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#100

[indiscernible]

Karl Gradon

Executives
#101

Absolutely. I'm emerging from my first performance in the role, and it is a very clear mandate and expectation for many of our shareholders actually that I engage more proactively. And as a business, we engage much more proactively with our wider community of beekeepers. And I think even the leadership we've taken as part of the recent -- one example, we've tried to, as much as we can influence from the back rooms, for example. So I think that we do have a lot of trust to rebuild. I hear you, I acknowledge your point. And I think it is something that my personally fits alongside those have got Luke in the room -- that work alongside the apiaries across all of New Zealand. We've got a lot of work to do. So you should be seeing a lot more from me in the very near future.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#102

[indiscernible]

Karl Gradon

Executives
#103

Yes. we acknowledge that supply risk and continuity of supply is a key part of our strategic imperative. Absolutely.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#104

Thank you. Thank you for the question. Yes, Alan.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#105

I have a small summary and perhaps a question at the end. Well, I do have a question at the end. I wanted to first of all thank Karl and Rommel for your presentation today. There's encouraging news, and it's good to feel encouraged again that we seem to be on the right trajectory. And I know how hard you guys have worked. I visited there, and I know what you're doing, and it's great. There's clearly a reset going on in the company. To that end, I'd like to also just say thanks to [indiscernible] for his pretty tough year that he had to come in as an acting CEO and start to rightsize the company. And I think, Karl, you acknowledge that and what you said earlier on that there's a lot of work done during that time in the heat of some pretty difficult decisions that had to be made, a lot of redundancies, et cetera, et cetera. The thing that has been confusing is that the media courage has been an intense over the past 3 months since the Florenz bid was launched. There's been a huge confusion amongst the shareholders and the company, and times have been pretty difficult. The Board was very vocal on their support of the bid. It seemed that way to us. Just 6 weeks ago, the Chair was interviewed on the Shari's platform, making it abundantly clear that the only way for Comvita to survive and thrive in the future was for the company to be sold to Florenz for $0.80 a share. And I quote you, Bridget. "The Board has done every single thing possible to address the situation to strengthen the company's balance sheet. The offer from Florenz is the only credible offer on the table." Many shareholders, mostly New Zealand-based, think that the Board got that terribly wrong. I've been contacted by a lot of people. They should not have accepted and promoted such a low-ball offer, I've been told, and I feel that way myself. We felt as if we are being sold down the river, so to speak, by the directors. So far, there's been no apology from the Board as far as I'm aware that they may have just got this wrong. How, therefore, can the current Board expect our support now? We need a refreshed Board to take us forward. So my question is simple. Is it simple business as usual, Madam Chair? Or can we expect that you, at least, will be announcing your resignation today or in the very near future? Thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#106

Alan, I think I've made it very clear that I do not believe that it is in the best interest of this company for me to step down at this moment. I really don't. We have 2 director positions open. That's by no [indiscernible] what that voting will be, as you can see. We need to make sure that we have a stable Board going forward. If we're -- at our year hence, and we have not achieved what we said we would achieve today, we've not stabilized the company, we've not recapitalized the business, we've not moved forward in the way that we have indicated to you, then I will be the first person to be stepping down. But I do not think for the benefit of all shareholders, bearing in mind, that 55% of our shareholders did vote in favor of the scheme. This is a very split Board with a very split point of view about what happened with Florenz. People who needed to access cash who had, had enough of the position of the company that they were not able to sell out of were disadvantaged when they were not able to do that. So we are trying -- the Board is trying to balance between these 2 different objectives. I would like to correct one thing. The matter of promoting the Florenz scheme that we did a very, very straight bet on this whole matter. We tried to make sure that every point of view was recognized. If you read the scheme document, you will find that it said these are the reasons why you would want to sell. These are the reasons why you would not want to sell. And we left the decision to shareholders. So look, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you don't agree. Others do. You don't. And I do not feel that it is in the best interest of the company for me to step down at the moment or indeed for my colleagues to step down also, which is what was suggested. Again, this is the position at the moment. We do have accommodation from the bank through to April. And that's not a very long time to get a whole recapitalization process done and to maintain the confidence of the new and incoming investors in the company. So I would ask you, respectfully, if you would be -- give us the additional time and we will deliver for you. But I do not honestly think that is in your best interest, especially you, to see this company under further stress and strain at the moment. I don't know whether either of you would like to say something.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#107

Okay. Thank you for your leadership of the meeting today, and I understand it's a very delicate balance -- the delicate balance I want to address is the looking forward and taking responsibility for the past. I would suggest it's rather disingenuous for you to address shareholders and to say, trust us, just look to the future, don't worry about the past, that some sort of catharsis as needed when we have the kind of crisis that we've been through. And as a shareholder, I personally don't feel that we've been afforded the kind of catharsis that we would need in order to be able to emotionally at least embrace the going forward that you're exhorting us into. So I would want to suggest that there is a stance of humility as well as necessary confidence, obviously, to take us forward, but I would have loved to have seen a greater sense of humility in the ownership of the failures over the last few years. So -- but again, I just want to acknowledge your leadership today and say thank you.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#108

That's kind. Please, I do acknowledge that the Board is incredibly sorry for what has happened in all sorts of respect. As we were talking before, being a Board member involves taking decisions steadily, sometimes they're not right. And in hindsight, it's easy to see the ones that were not right. This is the comment that Bob was making. Those of you who are in the room who have been a shareholder for a long time and that's many, including myself, this has developed over a number of years. The consistent loss of profitability. We've had good revenues, but we have just not been able to translate it into profitability. And so consequently, the debt levels have built up. And some of the capital allocation decisions have been poor. So there's responsibility, there's many areas. All of us take responsibility. Please have no illusion. And you want us to say sorry, again, I will, but this is really a very, very intensely held point of view, we are, sorry. And we intensely hope that we'll be able to do a lot better for you by the time we meet next year. Hopefully, you will be seeing something completely different. And in fact, I'm confident you will be.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#109

Can I just ask another question for me since the bid has failed. So we didn't have any decrease show them before, right? Why?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#110

Pardon?

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#111

I mean several months conversation, and I feel from the news that they're ready to take us. But until we moved some less than 50% vote to inaugurate for that. So we didn't really open any secret of us.

Bridget Coates

Executives
#112

Sorry, yes, not Florenz.

Unknown Attendee

Attendees
#113

Are we -- so that what I mean is, are we still safe to keep the #1 for the category because it's because they are pretty strong in American fill. When you're saying American is a target market, right?

Bridget Coates

Executives
#114

Yes. They are strong in America. But can I just say we are very fortunate that our -- Andrew Matthews is our lawyer. All our documentation is -- has been very, very much focused on protecting the company from Florenz, taking advantage of any information that they had became a position of during the due diligence process, and we are absolutely conscious of the risk that you mentioned. And the documentation was set up with that deliberately in mind. Fortunately, for those who do not know the company Florenz well, they are in the U.S., but they are not at all in China, in Asia, Southeast Asia, and so the risk is constrained at least to the U.S. is in so far as any risk. I would like to bring the meeting to a close unless there's further questions. And before we do that, I would like to acknowledge Brett, and Alan mentioned Brett, and I want to acknowledge his 20 years of service to Comvita. Over that time, Brett served us as Chief Executive Officer on 3 separate occasions, most recently stepping down as acting CEO in July 2025. Brett and I worked closely through that period. Brett worked extremely hard to restructure the company, to make a significant number of cost changes and to restructure, much of which has now flowed on to this recent period, as Karl mentioned. Brett played an instrumental role in many of Comvita's key milestones. Most particularly, he helped shape our fully integrated business model and our strong science-led focus, which you will see more of coming forward and which is really a very strong underpinning for the company. He's way to recognize for his people, for his leadership style, inspiring teams through his dedication and personal connection and his innovative thinking. Brett holds a very special place in Comvita's legacy through the impact of his leadership and we thank him most sincerely for his contribution. Thank you, Brett. I have one further acknowledgment, and that is Mr. Zhu. Mr. Zhu is stepping down today as a Director. He was a pioneer of Comvita's entry into China, leading the establishment of our first branded retail stores and a national distribution network. He opened Comvita's first store in China in 2004 and laid the foundations for what has become one of our most important international markets. Comvita later understood its staged acquisition of the China business, acquiring a majority stake in 2017 and full ownership in 2018. In addition to being a highly valued director, Mr. Zhu has been a long-standing and significant shareholder, the largest shareholder. I would like to thank him personally for his consistent support of Comvita and for the Board's work. He has always brought deep practical knowledge of the China market to the Board table provided clear and constructive guidance at critical points in the company's journey. We all wish him well with his other business interests. And before the meeting closes, a couple of final thank yous. Thank you very much to my fellow directors. Thank you very much for their ongoing contribution, both Bob and Mike and the 2 directors who are not here today. I would also like to acknowledge Karl, our CEO, and the rest of the leadership team and all of Comvita's global staff for their commitment, energy, passion and dedication during the last few months. That is not easy when the company is going through the problems that we have faced. They've stayed focused on operations, and they have continued to deliver against our financial objectives. And finally, back to the point, thank you, our current shareholders, our loyal shareholders, for your ongoing faith and support for Comvita as we do everything we possibly can to set the company up for a successful future. Thank you again. And I now declare the meeting closed and ask Nikki if she would come forward for a [Foreign Language] please.

Unknown Executive

Executives
#115

[Foreign Language] Hello again. We've now come to the end of our meeting, which will now play off [Foreign Language] can remain seated. [Foreign Language] To you all, and many thanks to you, everyone.

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