Coromandel International Limited (COROMANDEL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 12, 2026

NSEI IN Materials Chemicals earnings 62 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Coromandel International Limited Q2 and H1 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call. hosted by Systematix Shares & Stocks Limited. [Operator Instructions] I now hand the conference over to Mr. Harmish Desai. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Harmish Desai

analyst
#2

Thank you, Sonya. Good morning, and welcome to the Q2 and H1 FY '27 Earnings Call of Coromandel International Limited, hosted by Systematix Institutional Desk. From the management, we have Mr. Sankarasubramanian, Managing Director and CEO; Mr. Deepak Natarajan, Chief Financial Officer. I would like to thank the management for giving us the opportunity to host this call. We will begin the call with opening us from Mr. Sankarasubramanian, followed by Mr. Deepak Natarajan for update on financial performance, post which we'll have a Q&A session. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#3

Thank you, Harmish, for organizing the call. Good morning, everyone. I hope you had a wonderful Diwali, my belated wishes to you and to your family. I'll begin with a bold view of brief business environment experience during the quarter and also provide an update on operational performance, then I'll request Deepak to take us through the financial performance. As you all know, Q2 was unprecedentedly challenging quarter for the industry. We had multiple headwinds coming together at the same time. Deficit rainfall in key markets, rupee depreciation, elevated raw material prices, lower NPKs rates and weak consumption impacted the operating environment. In fact, rainfall deficit was around 20% to 30% in our key markets such as Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, Karnataka, Maharastra, and this has impacted the agriculture activity as well as input consumption. Also, the widening price difference between DAP and complex fertilizers influence the farmer buying behavior and impacted the offtake of NPKs. All these factors resulted in soft industry-wide decline in fertilizers volume with production and consumption of NPKs has fallen considerably by 40% during this quarter. Happy to note that government yesterday announced the NBS base rate for Rabi '26-'27 season. This is a very timely and positive intervention, particularly given the fact that there has been significant volatility in international fertilizer and raw material markets. This improved subsidiary support should help improving the viability of domestic manufacturing and restore better pricing balance between the DAP and complex fertilizers, thereby supporting the adoption of balanced nutritions. We are still awaiting detailed notification and the revised rates appeared to align with the NBS mechanism with its underlying principle of reflecting the movements in international raw materials and fertilizer prices. The government has also announced a special support to address the exceptional increase in sulfur and sulfuric acid prices, which has significantly impacted the cost of fertilizers. During the year, government launched the fertilizer sales system on a pilot business across select districts. These initiatives are very positive from the perspective of improving transparency and promoting efficient fertilizer usage and the initial implementation has also highlighted certain practical challenges, including longer purchase process performers, access to digital infrastructure and farmer choice and brand preferences. feedback with the Department of Fertilizers India hopeful that these operational aspects will be suitably addressed before the framework becomes a reality. In we continue to see regulatory tightening, including restriction around certain molecules like and However, Coromandel is expected impact is not much. With respect to nonsubsidy businesses, restriction has been imposed by certain states on the sale of nonsubsidies by fertilizers by fertilizer marketers. Industry has been engaging with the authorities in the state of UP, Bihar and Maharashtra, and we are hopeful that an appropriate framework can be evolved that protects farmer interest, while continuing to balanced nutrition and innovation. During the quarter, Andhra Pradesh has announced a major program to develop Rayalaseema as a global horticulture and food processing hub, and significant expansion is land in Given our strong presence in the region, our expected new granulation plant coming on stream in the near future, this augurs very well Coromandel. And we see this as a positive long-term opportunity across our various segments, nutrients, crop protection, specialty nutrients, especially through our retail platform. Coming specifically to Q2 performance. As I mentioned, it was a very challenging quarter. We sharpened our focus on differentiated offerings. We launched 10 new products across nutrients and crop protection segments, and reasonably, we manage the working capital well. Revenue grew by 6% to INR 10,340 crores, but however, EBITDA declined 18%, mainly due to compression in NPK fertilizer margins during this quarter. And also due to deficit in key markets on rainfall and higher input prices not adequately compensated by Kharif NBS rates, our performance, of course, the value chain got impacted. In the fertilizer fuse business, volume offtake was impacted due to monsoon, price differentials. However, we tried to increase our market share from 17% to 19%. And our primary sales for the quarter was down significantly by 30% to 10 lakh tonnes and consumption also declined 33%. It's a conscious call taken by the company to moderate the primary sale and production and manage the working capital well and tracking the consumption of the production and supplies are moderated. The government announcing the new NBS rates for the Rabi season, we do expect that part of the benefits will be passed on in correcting the MRP, which can revive consumption during the Rabi season. The production got moderated by 15% in Q2 to 7.7 lakh tonnes due to softer demand. Our newly commissioned phosphoric acid and sulfuric acid plant at Kakinada has committed the right time to ensure availability of these key raw materials, even though we operated the plant at a lower capacity until we got the sulfur subsidiary notification sometime in August. With sulfur subsidy coming in, this new project is back on track and started operating at full capacity and this will support the value accretion in a highly volatile operating environment, thanks to the timely government intervention. Our plant project is progressing well in Kakinada though we hope to commission this by February of this year, and this capacity should be available for the next year. Overall, we can see a moderation in the global raw material prices. While urea has come off sometime back, we have seen softening approach in sulfur as well. Sulfur is now likely to go below $900 due to stiff resistance from metal segment as well as in the fertilizer segment. I do expect sulfur used to be a disposal problem and this can become opportunity to bring it down below $500 as well if we sustain our approach in terms of smart purchases. DAP continued to remain more or less at the same level in the last 2 months. prices have been rolled over at $1,700 as sulfur prices remained high during this period. Volumes again got moderated by 13% to 1.9. But our focus on differentiated grades in terms of and urea has been quite helpful and help us to improve the contribution on margins. Moving on to Crop Protection segment. Crop Production demand remained soft during the quarter. The impact of rainfall has cascading effect on the routes as well. Exports demand has been gradual as farm economics was impacted due to high fertilizer like prices. Encouragingly, we are seeing improvement in the price of certain agriculture commodities globally, and that should improve the offtake of as well. Crop Protection business delivered 22% revenue growth during the quarter, supported by strong performance in export market. Our diversified global presence continue to provide opportunities to deepen our presence across key graphs. Domestic market, we continue to invest in portfolio development and differentiated offerings with new products contributing 36% during the year. During the quarter, we introduced 6 new products across the group chemicals and biologicals. There has been some impact on margin for a few molecules, but it broadly remains at comparable level given the variability in proven intermediates experience in H1, customers have deferred the purchases and it has had a bearing on the production of product offtake as well. We are expanding the capacity of one of key molecules that will come on scene by this month end. We're also planning to establish plant in place or actually strongly believe chemistry is going to be the next major intervention and agrochemicals value chain. And after the successful trial of the launch plan, hopefully, it should pave the way for ultimate the commercial budget for the specialty chemicals, which we envisaged 2 years before. On the subsidiary NACL, as you may have seen the numbers, revenues are at INR 374 crores, down 18% and EBITDA at INR 12 crores, significantly lower than corresponding quarter of the last year. One-off abrasion that company witnessed due to significant margin pressure after carryover high-cost inventory and the corresponding pass-on could not happen due to market compression and prices of written molecules came down, and the company has to take a significant impact on the margins. A lot of initiatives have been taken up to have a synergistic approach between crop protection business of Coromandel and NACL in terms of portfolio, in terms of sourcing strategies, optimizing the production capacities, leveraging on the product portfolio capabilities. Product initiatives are underway, and we hope to see a robust comeback of initial performance in the coming quarters. Our retail business had a very strong quarter, supported by continued focus on farmer engagement and cross-specific campaigns across markets. We are seeing good traction on our proprietary product portfolio, some of our retail white label brands scaling up well and expected to cross INR 100 crores in annual sales this year. We also continue to expand our physical reach adding 80 stores during Q2 and taking the overall network 2,300 stores across Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra. story been going out very well for us. The team has done an job in terms of monsoon situation. They provided alternate products, organic fertilizers, specialty neutrals, which help them to achieve the bottom line. And some of the new stores have reached the breakeven much faster than what we initially expected. The new stores have started contributing meaningfully, reinforcing our confidence in scalability of the model, and we are journey to finance the network to 2,000 stores over the next 2 years. As specialty nutrients organic and biological business also performed well in this stressful situation, the adoption of order water solubles and the specialties are gaining traction and Coromandel is rightfully positioned in terms of making these product offerings differentiated solution to the farmers, and it is more relevant during this water stress conditions and the growing emphasis on sustainable agriculture. So overall, I think with a better policy support through the revised NBS rates improved farm economics, moderating on the input cost and the seasonal pickup in Rabi activity. I do expect operating environment is going to be much better H2, which improved our bounce back on the production, sales consumption. Of course, I'm cautiously optimistic at this point of time. And I'm sure if no predictions are coming through by year-end, ending our foot move to a neutral position, which provides very optimism for the forthcoming current season as well. I'll request Deepak to talk about the financial performance.

Deepak Natarajan

executive
#4

Thank you, Shankar. Good morning, all, Diwali greetings and seasons greetings to all. The company recorded a consolidated total income of INR 10,348 crores during the quarter compared to INR 9,771 crores in Q2 of last year, registering a growth of 6%. The revenue increase has been mainly on account of higher subsidy rates versus last year and growth across the various businesses. It is pertinent to note that last year's Q2 results includes NACL numbers effective 8th August 2025 onwards. . Overall, the subsidy share of the business stands at 81% during the quarter, which compares with 83% in the last year. As far as profitability is concerned, the company reported a consolidated EBITDA for the quarter of INR 944 crores as against INR 1,147 crores last year registering a degrowth of 18%. The decrease in EBITDA is mainly due to higher input prices on account of ongoing Middle East crisis. and not commensurate with some of the revisions in NBS rates and the retail prices, MRP. The profitability share of subsidy business stands at 58% compared to 72% last year. Net profit after tax for the quarter was INR 523 crores in comparison to INR 793 crores last year. Moving on to the financial performance of the first half of the year. The company recorded a consolidated total income of INR 18,566 crores during H1 versus INR 16,897 crores in H1 of last year, registering a growth of 10%. The subsidy share of the business stands at 79% compared to 83% last year. With regard to profitability in H1, the consolidated EBITDA was reported at INR 1,705 crores against INR 1,929 crores last year, registering a degrowth of 12%. Profitability share of the subsidy business stands at 53% compared to 70% last year. The net profit after tax for H1 was INR 905 crores compared to INR 1,295 crores in the previous year. As far as subsidy is concerned, during the quarter, company received INR 3,086 crores towards subsidiary claims. Government has been from an clearing all the subsidy dues. As of today, we have received subsidy claims till the September 4 week in October, the company further received subsidy of about INR 1,200 crores. During H1, the company has received INR 4,478 crores towards subsidy claims. Subsidy outstanding as of September was INR 3,535 crores compared to INR 3,199 crores in previous year. With regard to ForEx. During the Q2, rupee traded in a range of about INR 94.5 to INR 96.6. Coromandel continues to hedge exposure on a conservative basis. Thank you. With that, I hand over to the Harmish.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Prashant Biyani from Elara Securities Private Limited.

Prashant Biyani

analyst
#6

Diwali greetings to the management. Sir, what kind of MRP reduction is expected maybe gradually or at once after the subsidy increase?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#7

Very difficult to put the number. We need to get the notification and then we'll respond. But at least, I feel like 2020 have seen a very sharp increase from 1,350 per to there, we expect moderation to happen. Can be minimum 10% to 15% of moderation is possible in those levels. But let's not forget the fact the companies were incurred huge negative margins. The subsidy will partially offset that. And if still there is a scope, we may be able to do this MRP correction because again, ammonia started So we need to wait and see. Definitely, we will look for some moderation in prices as it's not sustainable to continue to have wide

Prashant Biyani

analyst
#8

Sure. Sir, how much of sulfur subsidy have you considered in our Q2 results?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#9

See, we -- you know the notification clearly says actually is applicable at a flow price of $800. So when winter we decided to curtail our purchases. So whatever shipments we have got beyond this price level, are on eligible for the subsidy. It's not very significant, but it has been quite helpful, especially for August and September. It would be difficult for me to put the number, but this came handy especially for our Kakinada new plant. Production was moderate and after the actually announcing it back on track.

Prashant Biyani

analyst
#10

Sure. And just lastly, sir, along with the Rabi subsidy notification, has this also been approved by cabinet or it is yet to be approved by cabinet?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#11

See, yesterday the cabinet approval. There is no more further approval required. It's all finally approved and clear.

Prashant Biyani

analyst
#12

Even for sulfur?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#13

Yes, yes.

Operator

operator
#14

The next question is from the line of Riju from Antique Stockbroking Private Limited.

Riju Dalui

analyst
#15

So my first question is regarding the nonsubsidy EBITDA. So if you look at the subsidy that was very much lower compared to last year, but the nonsubsidy business EBITDA seen a sharp jump in the H1 as well as in the 2Q. So what explains that if you could give some on this?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#16

In non-subsidiary business, the major share comes from crop protection business, where one of the molecules we had a challenge because of the carryover inventory, what is sulfur-based derivatives, which influences the input cost, but slowly there has been a correction in the market price. Initially in the first quarter, the prices all went up. But naturally, the global agriculture prices have remained soft for a major portion of Q2. Hence, the uptake for the price increase was not there. So there is a high cost input cost, not adequately compensated and the prices have happened. That has compressed the margin. A lot of corrective actions have happened in terms of input price correction moderated repayment fee. And we are getting back on track. But the rest of the businesses, whether it is bio products or retail or specialty nutrients or SSP, they've all done well. Another major reason which is an aberration for this quarter, the ban on what the company is doing sale of subsidized, nonsubsidized products, especially in these key states of Maharashtra, Bihar and UP, has impacted the business. Hopefully, if that desolation comes back, we should track -- we should come back on track. I think it's a temporary aberration. We should get restored.

Riju Dalui

analyst
#17

Understood, sir. And the crop protection business, if you could provide the number for the stand-alone CP business EBITDA margin, a broad indication?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#18

EBITDA stand-alone is 16% for the current quarter and half year is 17%.

Riju Dalui

analyst
#19

Okay. Understood. And sir, in the business, if you look at it in terms of the H1 or the 2Q performance for the industry, for the DAP volume was -- sales volume was flattish, while the decline with 38% on a Y-o-Y basis. Is this explained mainly because of the license NPKs or was there any cost of the crop sales that we have seen in the season? So first is this. And Dead second, looking at the subsidy. So there is a high probability that industry-wise price car might happen and that also we might be able to maintain our margin profile. So with that, can we expect the lift of our inventory Kharif will be cleared? And if it's, and then how do you see the overall what industrial channel inventory situation for the 2H of this year. And how will be the impact overall for the DAP and inventory?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#20

The NPK switch DAP has happened mainly because of ultimately DAP prices peaked at INR 1,350, whereas NP fertilizers [indiscernible] the price went up to INR 2,100. And in a stressful situation, farmer never wanted to pay this sort of a price increase. Naturally, there has been a demand contraction and farmers are looking for the cheaper alternative, DAP, which is a high product. This has been 1 of the major setback for the domestic manufacturers, and that is when government intervened and announced the sulfur subsidy, and then now they have corrected the rates to reflect the market reality. So up to INR 1,500 or INR 1,800 per of the demand contraction was not happening. Once it was going beyond that, we could see demand contraction. With the announcement of NBS rates, I think in NPK volumes will come back, and that will also reduce the import of DAP to a greater extent. So I think what it used to be 60%-40% between NPK and DAP tend to be 30-70, 30 for NPKs and 70 for DAP. So that is getting set right with the new NBS In terms of the channel stock, I would say it is not very high because industry has cut down the production cut down the imports, anticipating demand contraction due to bad early new season. And thanks to that, the channel inventory buildup is not quite significant. That can be a marginal 5% to 7% higher levels compared to last year. But with the next 2, 3 months, this will continue to moderate these inventories. Consumption will pick up with correction in MRP. I think we should see reduced inventory levels as we close this year-end. I don't see a major challenge and the system can absorb these additional volumes, which has been placed in Kharif that should get consumed now. Because outlook of Rabi is also depending on Northeast monsoon. We have seen 2 cyclones, and that has revived the prospects of chilly crops in South in Andhra market. And also in the North, the stage of the peak cropping is likely to be normal that can be impacted on and pulses. But overall, Eastern region potato crop has come up well and we also expect Central Region to pick up on volumes in crop So I think there won't be any major deviation on consumption in the Rabi season and with reasonable level of inventory and the new NPL rates and the moderation prices, I do expect consumption revival to happen, and we may end up with a moderate inventory as we close this Rabi season by March.

Riju Dalui

analyst
#21

Understood, sir. One last book-keeping question. What is the closing -- what is the inventory that we are holding as of September and out of which, how much at the dealer level and how much was the factory level?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#22

I get back to you. Specifically, I don't put out these numbers in the -- nothing extraordinary, I would say, at this point of time, it's more or less getting maintained to the last year level as far as channel inventory is concerned. As far as factory production is concerned, we have curtailed our production considerably as I mentioned in my note. So we don't carry much of inventory in our plant

Operator

operator
#23

The next question is from the line of Darshita Shah from DSP Asset Managers.

Darshita Shah

analyst
#24

Firstly, with the subsidy, with the sulfur subsidy coming through, Shankar, sir, how are you seeing the backward integration spread? Are they better than last year? Are they the same, especially given that the proportion of backward integration versus last year has now moved up -- so should we see backward integration spreads improving maybe for the second half of the year?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#25

Absolutely. In fact, from August onwards, we are back on track. Still sulfur prices are really high, and we were not operating PA plants at full capacity, never been the case for Coromandel. And now we are back on track. And from October onwards, we should scale up our volumes and the value gap also in improved considerably. I think this improved impact on the overall performance from the value gap should kick in, in second half.

Darshita Shah

analyst
#26

Okay. All right. Other spreads similar to -- would it be anywhere in the range of $300, $350, is that a safe assumption from make or could it be higher or lower than that?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#27

I think it's a safe assumption to make.

Darshita Shah

analyst
#28

Okay. Great. Secondly, sir, when we look at our EBIT, that is down about 20-odd percent, but a nonsubsidy piece has done significantly well. You mentioned that it is because of the specialty nutrient and the other businesses that we have. So is this more of a proportion of the retail business being able to sell it better or are we doing something differently to grow these brands firstly? And secondly, is there any aberration because of lower NPE sales or lower appealability that the demand for these organic fertilizers have gone up? I mean, how should we be thinking about it, especially the nonsubsidy non-CP part of the business?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#29

No, you're absolutely right. It's a combination of factors what you rightly alluded to. Retail has got its act right in terms of positioning the right product, depending on the market situation and that was quite helpful and also we improved our network in Andhra, Telangana. That has also aided in fact, most of the retail stores have improved the performance in a very short period of time. And also when the NPK prices went up, the farmer tendency is to look for an alternate and cheaper fertilizers and organic fertilizers volumes have also picked up. And also in successful condition, the natural tendency is to use more of water sellable and specialties. So a combination of multiple things, our retail connect, additional reach and scaling up of organic fertilizers. -- globally, we are able to get the volume back. Our ability to close at a competitive price. All this has been helpful in hedging products. It's increased network, improved the product and new product offering is also helpful. We launched 2 new products in organic fertilizers which was received very well in the market. And some of the white label products, which retail was doing, we are able to source it internally from our own bio business division that has scaled up well. Some of these products are reaching the size and scale of INR 100 crore brand, that was quite helpful.

Darshita Shah

analyst
#30

Okay. Sir, thirdly, on the Nano product, is it that we are seeing increased demand because of higher NPK prices, how should we thinking -- how should we be thinking about the overall contribution for the Nano piece as well as -- for revenue as well as on EBITDA?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#31

See, Nano has got a promising future. At least our experience has been extremely bullish and Nano not only in the domestic market but also in the global markets. Unfortunately, the ban on this nonfertilizer by in certain states has dampened the volumes. Key markets like UP, Maharashtra, we had a setback and we didn't position is materials during this quarter. Ideally this have picked up and government has been promoting alternate to chemical fertilizers, this should definitely be on the top. But unfortunately, the state ban has impacted the sale of Nano. But I think that's a temporary challenge. We should come back on track on this. Production has been very good. Over the last season, we are able to supply them season as well. We have become a market leader on Nano DAP. In fact, a lot of new customers have come in. Globally also we have started exporting certain consignments. We are in the process of registering this product in Latin markets and and southeastern countries. Hopefully, we should see traction in Nano volumes as well. And -- but it is very critical for us to this brand in these key states where the others can be filed, which we are working on. But otherwise, I think it's a promising product. It has significant margin coming in. In terms of revenue, it won't make a big impact on the top line because sizable commodity business, what we have in terms of EBITDA margins

Operator

operator
#32

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Somaiah V. from Avendus Spark Private Limited.

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#33

Sir, my first question is on the industry sales. For first half, what would be the complex sales [indiscernible]

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#34

DAP in NPK is around like times as against last year,

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#35

Understood, sir. And also we have the split between DAP and NPK?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#36

NPK is 60 lakh tonnes against last year 77 lakh tonnes and DAP is flattish at 44 lakh tonnes

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#37

That's helpful. Sir, second question is on the our granulation it mentioned about so what is the expectation in mixed Kharif or what level of implications we can get up to? And also in terms of marketing, we have been already going to some of the Northern market so what is the expectation in terms of next year of this point on the market?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#38

See, this year happened to be a very stressful season and the volumes are contracted in the current year. And always, even with this capacity last year, we had 1 form and by importing likes of DAP and PK for leases. I think the new capacity coming in, and hopefully, the season won't be this bad, like what we witnessed in guarantee and we do expect El Nino to turn neutral by year-end. I don't see any challenge in operating the plant close to the full capacity because Coromandel that has been on hallmark ensuring that all over CapEx is commissioned on time and relate the value on time. And we are expanding our retail network that will be our main channel to drive part of the volume. And also, we'll be -- we have already started the seed marketing 2, 3 years before in key markets like U.P., Rajasthan and MP. We'll try and improve our volumes going forward into next year as well. So I don't see any challenge in ensuring full utilization of the new facility next year. Having said that, we'll also be focusing on differentiated product offerings, not to repeat the same generic rates what we have been doing. The facility, which is coming up has got capability to have multiple nutrients to be added to main NPK products like Boron or zinc. During the current year due to the sort of policy changes, we could not come up with alternate products. With the way NBS policy has restored the original design principle of announcing the rates based on the prevailing cost that is giving us freedom to reasonably come up with innovation and new products and differentiated product offerings. So our aim would be to see how best we can leverage the new capacity to come up with new products, which can add value to the product and improve the productivity. So that is what we'll be focusing. To answer you in chart, our target will be to operate the plant at full capacity for the next year.

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#39

So sir, near about 70% backward integrated. So there is this 20%, 30% headroom. So is this something that we are looking forward or is there any operational challenge, is the maximum limit we can get to?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#40

First, we want to realize the value of the investment, what we have made in Kakinada, operate the plant at full capacity and has always been our approach. Having invested INR 2,000 crores in setting up the PSA plant last year, and it's important for us to ramp up the volume and generate the cash out of that investment. And obviously, we will look forward to additional capacity as and when required. I don't see any challenge in the infrastructure or anything. And we have our mining operations also being scaled up a cynical I don't see any challenge if we choose to increase the volume. But as a matter of prudence, we'll always keep some exposure for bottled asset. We'll not be going in 100% capital.

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#41

Understood, sir. Sir, on Haggen, so if you could just share the split between exports versus domestic mix and also volume and price impact during the quarter?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#42

exports, I think we have got significant growth this year. Almost 40% of the growth has come from exports and almost 45% of our revenue has come from exports, which is a very significant number we have got. And thanks to some of our molecule scanning volume in the export market that is quite helpful.

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#43

Sir, does mix in growth includes

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#44

Sorry?

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#45

So this includes NACL?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#46

No, this is Coromandel segment. Any NACL is back on exports. I have to come back to you on the segmental growth of NACL exports because we have seen it in a stand-alone basis. Coromandel crop protection business, exports growth has been 44% and the revenue share has been more than 40%.

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#47

You referring to the opening remark in terms of a product-led challenge at NACL high cost inventory. So has that been the write-offs we kind of normalized now going forward, can we expect that impact to kind of not be there?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#48

Obviously, the inventories have come down. But the input raw material prices, we are renegotiating and also looking at some value chain, how do we make those intermediates also in-house and we are trying to optimize the production capacities between the 2 companies' operating plans. Sometimes when you operate the plant at low capacity, your efficiency and the conversion cost also goes up. So those issues are being and addressed. And we are also able to secure some of the raw materials at a competitive price in the current quarter. So hopefully, that should play out now. See, these sort of challenges in agrochemicals will always be there in terms of sudden compression in margin expansion in the next quarter. These things have wound to happen. But the wider portfolio should get smoothened out. And we are also trying to see how do we cut down costs, how do we rationalize the field team. So we are working on various initiatives to improve the operational EBITDA. And those things will play out in the coming quarters. See, we need to look at net in a little more broader sense rather than already studying the EBITDA. As is bringing in full opportunity in terms of spare capacities of active ingredients. In fact, there may not be a need for Coromandel to invest in active ingredient capacity we can to a great extent. That is the first advantage. Second is the R&D strength of any NACL and Coromandel on a combined basis provide necessary impetus for new-age chemistries like chemistry. We would not have gotten to put up a launch in a sugar product, but for the talent available in NACL in terms of R&D team and capability, they have done the pilot plant, and we are able to take it forward and get into these specialty zones, which otherwise have taken another 2 years ago. So access to the expand capacity is access to the chemistry and the CDMO play in terms of ability to manufacture various intermediaries connecting with the global players would be helpful as both the companies work towards having a long-term contracts in the space. And these are all the things which play out at different point of time. Because of the current portfolio of NACL, there is a challenge in the margin and EBITDA and the molecules are not new molecule. They are old generic marketers. We are quite aware of the fact when we looked at this target as well. It will take some time because anything to happen in crop protection, it will take 2, 3 years to get the new product registrations going and we have injected the right set of talents, and we are also working on various new product interactions. I think you all have to do some time for things to play out. It may not be measured in terms of the quarterly EBITDA performance in the near future.

Somaiah Valliyappan

analyst
#49

Understood. Sir, 1 last question from my side. So the plant that you had mentioned So what is the road map there? What the in terms of opportunities and potential in the next few years? What are we expecting the ramp-up in the specialty side? If you can just touch upon that.

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#50

See, the what we are putting up as a launch plan, we have a pilot plant already in place. We are now putting up a launch plan. For any of these chlorination-based chemistries, there are global customers who are keen to tie up with us, but they need samples to be given at all stages of the protection, whether it is the R&D stage or a pilot stage, or a launch plan stage. So this is on a commercial scale, we need to give the samples and get tested. And most of these are highly capital-intensive projects, and we don't want to set up the facility unless we have a sign up with the key customers. So we are in the process of identifying those key intermediates which we can sign up with the customers. And once the launch plan is ready with those products and products are cleared, this is a journey which we have embarked 1 year before and with getting accelerated now. Once we have a visibility on the product getting cleared with key players, we should be able to set up a commercial plant, which may involve CapEx of INR 200 crores to INR 300 crores, probably 1, 2 years down the line once we establish the feasibility and viability. That is what the road map we are having. And that can give a good amount of EBITDA margin completely different from current portfolio. And chlorination-based intermediates are also used in our own captive. So we are looking at both the opportunities for in-house usage as well as for the I think it will open up the opportunity for us to enter in the specialty chemical space, which we have been discussing in the past as well. But we wanted to do slowly. We don't want to commit the capital upfront unless we are sure about what we are doing.

Operator

operator
#51

The next question is from the line of Himani from ICICI Prudential Asset Management Limited.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#52

One question. On the biological side, while you have already highlighted that the growth has come from the fertilizers being available in the prices versus NPK. Just wanted to understand shoelaces growth only from this phenomena or is this growth sustainable in future?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#53

Absolutely it is sustainable. Biologicals have got 2, 3 verticals here. One is the based another one is a plant extract or we are building and plant extract and third is the organic food lasers, which are based on industrial base like trusted as well as municipal waste. And also we have come up with variants in organic fertilizers by adding other phosphates and nutrients. So it's a complete boutique of products, and that's a company we strongly believe in integrated nutrients management, which means 20% of organic and 80% of nutrient chemical fertilizers. The challenge here is in terms of ensuring the quality products available at the doorsteps of the farmers and the costs are quite high. And that is where when the retail centers coming up in all the remote centers, we are able to service the farming community closer to the pace of construction. And the offend rates are quite high. And this is likely to sustain and it will grow. And there are a lot of smaller players with a good research products available. It did not be global play. It can be a low place to play with a lot of micro nutrients, microbials additions, and we do our own in-house testing and clear these products. Is one of the areas which Coromandel will drive through retail outlets to environment, safe for soil and safe for the farmers, affordable for the farmers as well. So we are completely bullish on this, and we'll continue to grow on this space. In the biological bioproducts segment, we have made a beginning, a lot to catch up on this. In fact, last 2 quarters, we have been driving these bio verticals through the direct sales rather than piggyback on the current crop protection channel. And we have seen good traction because most of these bio products are concept selling. It requires a lot of engagement at the farmer level, right on the crop development to -- and in the footing stage. So I think this is the way to go, and we have got a product a few product pipelines. And currently, the share of bioproducts is related to less. Our aim is to see how best we can scale up in the segment and be a significant play and the EBITDA margins are completely different. And we have seen the traction here, and we'll continue to build on this. It is not a one-off It will sustain and it will build and grow on this.

Operator

operator
#54

The next question is from the line of Archit Joshi from Nuvama Wealth Limited.

Archit Joshi

analyst
#55

Sir, just one question. We had shared something on the acid on the last 2 interactions. Any developments there in terms of technology or any long-term partnerships in CapEx, any economics that you can help us with on that account?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#56

Too much preoccupied with the nutrient, our mind space was not there on this. They've taken it back stage. They are walking on net technologies available. Here again, we need to ensure that we have a customer stickiness. We need to work along with some of the few end consumers of this battery We will evaluate again back, and there has been a slowdown on this in the last 2, 3 quarters because of the challenges and the headwinds we faced in the main business. hopefully, we should come back to it in the fourth quarter, and I have nothing much to share at this point of time.

Operator

operator
#57

The next question is from the line of Abhijit Akella from Kotak Securities Private Limited.

Abhijit Akella

analyst
#58

First one was just now that the Rabi subsidy rates are known for the second half, would we have sort of a fairer idea of where we could expect EBITDA per tonne to settle at for FY '27?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#59

Too really to count the chickens. Let's wait for the quarter to close because things are so volatile -- the last 2 quarters are completely destablished in terms of margin I would prefer to wait, but these have improved significantly. Our valuation is restored now. So the challenge here is not the margin per se permits more of a volume. How do we relate the consumption, to what extent do we need to set the market price. These things will play out in the coming weeks. Probably one more quarter, we'll be able to give you a But structurally, directionally, we are there. Even in this stressful quarter, we have done a decent in terms of both manufactured margin and some opportunistic imports, which has helped us to have a decent margin on importers in NPK as well. So I think we should be able to come closer to what we have been talking about in the past from Q3 onwards. Until the I don't want to do any secondary thing at this point of time, but things are looking positive.

Abhijit Akella

analyst
#60

Sure. Understood. The second one was just on the subsidy announcement itself. In your reading, does it seem somewhat more favorable towards the NPK segment rather than towards DAP? That was 1 question. And the other one is that the of the financial results we have disclosed says that the necessary consequential impact of this ABS announcement will be taken in the subsequent quarter. So there any adjustment required to be already declared Kharif season results also or this will be prospective

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#61

There can be some positive impact on the channel inventory what industries carrying because these subsidies are paid out on consumption. So that will be a positive impact on the high-cost carryover inventory, but it will utilize the high cost. Otherwise, there have been a loss for the industry. So rather than saying whether there's a positive impact, I think the industry will not have a negative impact going forward, I would say, because we had to be rightfully compensated for having purchased and produced and carrying the high cost inventory that will be reasonably compensated as we sell these fertilizers in consumer farmers. So to extent, there will be a positive impact in the coming quarter. And secondly, in terms of shift favoring NPK, ideally delve it will always be that way only NPK is a balanced nutrition and domestic sector is focused on NPK fertilizers, and we can make it available during these challenging times. DAP capping it at INR 1,350 is an aberration. I think now we are come back to normalcy, and this is a way to go. I do feel that NP/NPK consumption should come back. And at some stage, even this capping a DAP may get released because government also cannot afford that sort of a higher subsidy and let the farmers decide which fertilizer he has to use. And that's the right thing to do, and that's what the industry also we have been at.

Abhijit Akella

analyst
#62

Okay, sir. And just last 2 quick ones from my side. One is the prework for fertilizer sale, does that apply only to urea and DAP or also to NPKs and in such a -- if it's the latter, then is there some impact on possible volume growth in the NPA category also from here?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#63

See, it is applicable for all, but I do not know there have been some areas where ideally some of the cash grow formers need higher volumes of NPKs, which they are not currently able to do because of this restriction. Industry has already started engaging with the government and given this feedback to ensure that the farmer who needs the right dosage in NPK should not be deferred on this. package of practices developed by dental chain cities need to be updated, and we have already returned to the government. We'll be engaging with them. It's very important that right procedures that innovative products are factored in the package of before they put out this system. This is on a pilot scale. The impacts have been given. We'll take it up further with the government to see that it doesn't adversely impact the availability of these portals to farmers who are indeed of them. It's a serious concern, which we are trying to address.

Abhijit Akella

analyst
#64

Perfect, sir. And the last 1 was on the fluorine chemicals plan side. In the last 2, 3 years, we've seen quite a lot of Chinese capacity coming up in the derivative space and some of the larger Indian companies have also been undergoing some struggle in that space. So in that backdrop, how do we plan to differentiate whatever offerings you plan to put up over here

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#65

See, one or 2 things. First, we are trying to establish the proof of concept and looking at chlorination chemistry-based agrochemical intermediates and certain pharma intermediates. And right now, we are not creating complete downstream. But one unique advantage Coromandel has got is in terms of hydrophilic acid, which helps to diversify chlorination chemistry rather than using So while China is competing on the our ability to leverage on our byproduct which is coming from our phosphoric acid can be a good value, so that can provide the complete value chain in the chlorination chemistry space. So our unique advantage of on raw material can give us complete advantage compared to others. But having said that, we need to establish the market and identify partners who will uptake the volumes. This capacity will come up based on the market needs are then looking for the market after the capacity comes. So we'll have in the time before we move CapEx.

Operator

operator
#66

The next question is from the line of Bharat Sheth from Quest Investment Managers Private Limited.

Bharat Sheth

analyst
#67

Sir, my 1 question, can you give a little more color on the subsidiary and nonagrochemical business, the size of the business and how where we are talking of very bullish, so how difficult is to scalable, I mean, and what are the kind of so people cannot enter into?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#68

see, agrochemicals you're familiar, there's a complete landscape known to everyone. In terms of bioproducts, all the products are unique, specific to Coromandel whether it's a based bioprocess in house research product. And even some of them are specifically registered and developed by us in-house. So I think to that extent, it will be -- there's a strong entry barrier. But scaling up of volumes would be a challenge because they are applied in gold dosage and it conceptually takes time to double the market. So it's a of product uniqueness and the product branding and reach is important. And the global market registration, presence there is important where with our wider portfolio of crop protection Nano, bio, we are much better place with agrochemical business in 80 to 90 countries makes us if the accessible to these markets for us cross-selling these products, whether it's Nano or bio products. So to that extent, we are rightfully positioned to scale up the volumes. On the specialties, of course, it's a larger play, a lot of competitors are there, a lot of global players are we depend on imported raw materials. And here, we are trying to invest on our own lot of key raw materials are imported from China. We are trying to reduce the Chinese dependence, and we are putting up our own MAP plant, which will feed into our own manufacturing. So here again, our uniqueness of coming up with the crowd-based order salable grades, bringing in differentiation for risk makes it important under significant market presence in key markets, articles of markets. And our presence over the last 2, 3 decades in specialty nutrients that puts us in a very strong credit compared to the other players. We are having a sustainable volume growth of 20%, 25%, even during this stressful period, we are able to manage this. Other advantage we have is our large sourcing capability in Cote can have a positive but effect in these businesses as the similar type of raw materials are being sourced. So our sourcing efficiency or infrastructure, our despite supply chain to our common rate of less all this as something unique to Coromandel it will be difficult for us to the players to compete in the market space. And we don't compete on generic, we focus on specialities. to extent, we have less competition intensity.

Bharat Sheth

analyst
#69

What is the current annual size of the business? And how do we look at, I mean, scaling up the growth over the next 2, 3 years?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#70

Which business?

Bharat Sheth

analyst
#71

[indiscernible] non-agri, non-subsidy and non-agro chems.

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#72

Probably it is not differentiated as a separate segment. I'm not sure this understand whether you can put out those numbers. So probably I'll get back to you, but they are gathering momentum. They are very significant. And they have reached the size and scale comparable to the individual listed entities as well, especially on specialty, nutrients and bioproducts significantly.

Bharat Sheth

analyst
#73

And last question, sir, any update on the Dhaksha?

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#74

Waiting for good days. Next quarter, definitely, I should be able to give you good news in the A few good things have happened in the last quarter on Dhaksha. We have introduced 2 new variants and agri We have scaled up our volumes of agri operations in Coromandel through Dhaksha And we have done sizable volumes through retail outlets. And we have seen very well, we are using drones swing our volume of liquid fertilizers and liquid accretes have gone up significantly. So now we are attaching agreed drones to each of our retail centers, and there are pilots attached to each of the retail centers. And they will be executing this agreed drone services. very reasonably confident that future agree revolution in India will happen through drone span. Right now, it is confined to staying, but we can move into precision agriculture at a later stage. This is as far as agree metical is concerned. On the defense side and the surveillance rooms and other fixed winged drones, we are already working on. We have come up with 2, 3 new variants, and we are going in for registration with defense. And hopefully, once we get the order cleared for the earlier order, we should be able to make complete offerings. Some of the demonstrations we have given on these drones at the very high altitude in card sector was very well received by -- and hopefully, we should be able to get the orders. This sector is growing the annual CAGR of 25%. And not many established players out there, and we have created a large ecosystem with the facility for Lakn000qfleet, trying to develop indigenous vendors. We are looking to partner with other institutions to get the access to data technologies. We have worked much on the product offerings range everything. It will take some time once we are able to excite the order, we should be able to realize the value of this sector. I know it's completely different from agri inputs, but being part of this on diploid don't have been helpful. On the defense side, it opens with a new opportunity.

Operator

operator
#75

As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to Mr. S. Sankarasubramanian for closing comments.

S. Sankarasubramanian

executive
#76

I think we are cautiously optimistic about the Rabi season, supported the improved fundamentals and governmental prices have started showing signs of moderation, recent revision NBS rates also should be more supportive for fertilizer sector. The demand side farm economics remain broadly supportive are commodity prices of key crops are holding above MSP level, and that should support farmer cash flows and input affordability as we move to the Rabi season. We're also seeing some improvement in agriculture environment. The recent at been quite helpful in replenishing this all much in the country. And sowing has begun to pick up now, although aggregate acreage remains behind last year at this stage. So thank you for your insightful inputs and questions and hope to see in next quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

operator
#77

Thank you. On behalf of Systematix Shares & Stocks Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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