Crombie Real Estate Investment Trust (CRRUN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 11, 2023

Toronto Stock Exchange CA Real Estate Retail REITs earnings 36 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Crombie RIETs Q1 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Ruth Martin. Please go ahead.

Ruth Martin

executive
#2

Thank you. Good day, everyone, and welcome to Crombie REIT's First Quarter 2023 Conference Call and Webcast. Thank you for joining us. This call is being recorded in live audio and is available on our website at www.crombie.ci. Slides to accompany today's call are available on the Investors section of our website under Presentations and Events. On the call today are Mark Holly, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Clinton Keay, Chief Financial Officer and Secretary. Today's discussion includes forward-looking statements. As always, we want to caution you that such statements are based on management's assumptions and beliefs. These forward-looking statements are subject to uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. Please see our public filings, including our MD&A and annual information form for a discussion of these risk factors. I will now turn the call over to Mark, who will begin our discussion with comments on Crombie's overall strategy and outlook, along with a development update. Clinton will review Crombie's operating fundamentals discuss our financial results, capital allocation and approach to funding, and Mark will conclude with a few final remarks. Over to you, Mark.

Mark Holly

executive
#3

Thank you, Ruth. Good day, everyone, and thanks for joining us this afternoon. I'm honored and pleased to be speaking to Crombie's quarterly results today. But before I get into the results, I want to highlight that this morning, we held our Annual General Meeting, where I spoke to the depth and value of the strategy that guides our business. Our focus will remain on 3 asset classes: grocery-anchored retail, industrial and residential. There are 5 strategic pillars that guide this focus: #1 operating with excellence, a well-curated necessity-based portfolio; 2, our strategic partnership with Empire; 3, executing a robust development pipeline, 4, ensuring strong financial conditions and most importantly, 5 are foundation, our people and culture. Staying focused and disciplined on our strategy is a must to achieving our long-term goal of sustainable growth. Our team's resilience and commitment to prudent execution is fundamental, and we are prepared to make hard decisions in the short term for success in the long term. Our portfolio is primarily comprised of the most desirable asset classes in Canada and our results reflect their resilience. Operational performance was strong in the first quarter with committed occupancy of 96.7%, healthy same-asset NOI growth of 2.4% and strong renewal growth of 5.7% over expiring rental rates. These metrics reflect the hard work and dedication of our leasing and operations team who commit to excellence every day for our tenants. One of our competitive advantages is our strategic relationship with Empire, investing in Empire's network in the form of modernization, conversions as well as their Vola e-commerce network is an important part of our program. We align our real estate strategies and overlay the synergies to create win-win programs. This collaboration drives value creation for both organizations. Development and reinvestment in our properties is an important pillar of our strategy as it provides opportunity to drive AFFO and NAV growth, enhancing the quality of cash flows across our portfolio. Leasing progress occurred throughout the first quarter at our completed mixed-use residential properties, Le Duke and Bronte Village. We are pleased with the progress that has been made. Le Duke, located in Montreal has reached full occupancy as of April 2023, with rents exceeding pro forma by over 5%. At Bronte Village in Oakville, lease-up continues to gain momentum with residential portion of the property 56% leased as of mid-April, with rents exceeding pro forma by over 10%. We are encouraged with the progress over the quarter and are still targeting stabilization of NOI next spring. To deliver our development pipeline. We continue to be prudent stewards of capital and prioritize its allocation with the long term in mind. Our financial strength allows us to pursue the right opportunities at the right time. Maintaining well-laddered debt maturities contributes to a strong balance sheet and financial condition. And in March, we secured long-term fixed rate debt, which Clinton will speak to shortly. With this financial strength, I am pleased to announce that we have committed to our next major development, the milestone formerly known as West Holon Duke in downtown Halifax, Nova Scotia. Halifax is a strong market and one of Canada's fastest-growing cities. Housing demands are substantial with a vacancy rate at 1%, and we own some of the best real estate in the city. This 291 unit residential rental project will be built to lead gold standards with an operational net zero ready plan and will be a Rick Hansen Foundation certified property. The milestone will be a valuable addition to our portfolio and to the community. Our development pipeline is expansive and entitlements play a critical role in establishing a well-structured development ladder. Our team is laser-focused on advancing projects through the approval process as securing entitlements provides optionality and flexibility for our development planning. We intend to submit 4 rezoning applications over the course of 2023 and adding to the 6 locations with either rezoning approval in place or rezoning applications submitted. Together, these 10 properties have the potential to add over 5 million square feet of commercial and residential GLA, which includes up to 5,800 residential units. On the sustainability front, this morning, I was pleased to announce Crombie's Climate Action Plan, the next part of our environmental commitment under our ESG platform. Crombie is committed to achieve net 0 by 2050 for scopes 1, 2 and 3 and is setting a near-term target in 2030 of reducing Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 50% from a 2019 base year. Our reduction targets will be submitted to the science-based target initiatives, SBTI, for validation and approval. In addition to this climate action plan, last month, Crombie was named a 2023 green lease leader, receiving gold level by the Institute for Market Transformation and the U.S. Department of Energy Better Building Initiatives. We also received Boma BEST Platinum at our Scotia Square office complex in Halifax. With that, I will now turn the call over to Clinton, who will highlight our first quarter operational and financial results and discuss our capital funding approach.

Clinton Keay

executive
#4

Thank you, Mark, and good day, everyone. Crombie ended the quarter with committed occupancy of 96.7% and economic occupancy at 94.5%. Excluding Voilà CFC3 which is expected to take occupancy and commence paying rent in mid-2023, economic occupancy would be 96.1%. New leases increased occupancy by 62,000 square feet at an average first year rate of $18.91 per square foot. Approximately 87% of new leases equivalent to 54,000 square feet were completed in VECTOM in major markets. At March 31, 2023, 406,000 square feet was committed at an average first year rate of $20.42 per square foot, with tenants expected to take possession throughout 2023. VECTOM and major markets represented 363,000 square feet of committed space, including 304,000 square feet in Calgary, Alberta for the substantially completed Voilà CFC3 and 31,000 square feet in Burlington, Ontario for our new Farm Boy store. During the quarter, 540,000 square feet of renewals were completed at an average increase of 5.7% over expiring rental rates. The primary drivers of renewal growth in the quarter were our freestanding retail and retail plaza portfolios. An increase of 7% was achieved for first quarter renewals when comparing expiring rental rates to the weighted average rental rate for the renewal term. Crombie proactively manages its lease maturities, taking advantage of opportunities to renew tenants prior to expiration. During the quarter, approximately 237,000 square feet of renewals related to future year expiries were completed. On a cash basis, same-asset NOI increased 2.4% compared to the same quarter in 2022. Primary drivers are improved tracking revenue, increased rental revenue from renewals, new leasing, modernizations and capital improvements. For the quarter, AFFO per unit was $0.26, increasing from $0.24 for the same quarter last year, while FFO per unit was $0.30, increased from $0.28 for the same quarter last year. AFFO and FFO payout ratios in the quarter were 86.6% and 75.3%, respectively. The improvement in AFFO and FFO for the quarter is primarily due to an increase in income from equity account investments of $3.2 million as a result of the sale of land inventory at our Opal Ridge property in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Increased rental revenue from renewals, new leasing and acquisitions as well as improved tracking and higher supplemental rent from modernizations. This was partially offset by lost rental revenue due to dispositions. AFFO was further offset by an increase to the maintenance capital expenditure charge in Q1 2023 from $1 to $1.10 per square feet, which resulted in an increased charge of $468,000 and is expected to impact the full year by approximately $0.01 per unit. We have worked hard to improve our balance sheet and overall financial condition to position us well to drive future growth. During the quarter, Crombie had a successful offering of $200 million senior unsecured notes with a term of 6.5 years at an interest rate of 5.24%. This transaction aligns with our strategy of accessing multiple sources of capital to pursue strategic growth opportunities, including Empire-related initiatives and our robust development pipeline. We ended the quarter with available liquidity of $736 million, and our unencumbered asset pool grew increasing its fair value from $2.2 billion at year-end to $2.3 billion this quarter, predominantly from mortgage repayments. The $200 million non-revolving bank facility expiring in November 2025 is intended to be used to fund mortgage repayments over the next 12 months. Unencumbered assets as a percentage of unsecured debt is 195%, providing Crombie with additional financing flexibility and optionality. Our debt to gross fair value was 41.9% at the end of Q1 2023. We ended the quarter with debt to trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA at 7.96x down from 8.02x at December 31, 2022. The improvement is primarily due to lower outstanding debt as a result of mortgage repayments and dispositions as well as improved EBITDA. We continue to prudently allocate capital, reduce risk and build financial strength through access to multiple sources of capital, maintaining ample liquidity and a healthy weighted average turn to maturity. With that, I will now turn the call back to Mark for a few closing comments.

Mark Holly

executive
#5

Thank you, Clinton. To summarize, I'm pleased with our first quarter results. We strengthened our business with successful operations and finance results. We're in a great position with strong fundamentals and a committed team. I'm especially pleased with the progress we've made to advance our environmental commitment and our next major development. That concludes our prepared remarks. We are now happy to answer your questions.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] We have your first question coming from the line of Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins.

Lorne Kalmar

analyst
#7

Mark, congrats on 1 quarter in the books. Just on the Marlstone. I was wondering if you could give any color on yields and costs and time lines, given that you guys would sound like you're pretty close to getting started on the project.

Mark Holly

executive
#8

Yes, we're really excited about the Marlstone, our next project. We expect cost to be in the range of about $130 million to $150 million. We, at this point, already have about 75% of the cost through an LOI. So we have some security around that, which is one of the things that we've been working hard at over the last number of months on getting some comfort around the cost in this market. And at this point, we don't currently disclose yields, but really pleased with the project metrics and the project time lines and discipline that we're taking around this. And so that gives me a lot of confidence. And I think your last question was around timing on breaking ground. Because we've done a lot of work over the last couple of months on getting organized with certainty around costs, we've got a lot of the contracts ready to go. And so the team is ready to start to pull the trigger over the next coming weeks to month or 2.

Lorne Kalmar

analyst
#9

Okay. So you guys are real close on that one. All right. And then just sort of maybe looking a year or 2 down the road, is the goal to sort of start one project a year?

Mark Holly

executive
#10

Yes. As you know, we got a really robust pipeline, a number of near-term projects, medium-term projects, and we just talked about sort of one of the things that we want to work on is in the acceleration of entitlement for flexibility. We have an amazing team that has really worked hard over the last 5 years on the other 6 projects. And we're going to pick our spots. We're going to start with the Marlstone. We're going to work through the rest of the development ladder and find our spots when the market conditions are right when we have the right team available and we have some certainty around it. So more to come, but at this point, I'm super excited about the Marlstone to get that one going.

Lorne Kalmar

analyst
#11

Okay. Fair enough. And then just last one from me. You guys got the CFC coming on in Q3, I believe, or middle of the year, I should say. Is there any desire to add to the industrial portfolio by way of acquisition?

Mark Holly

executive
#12

Well, CCI 3 was the one that we acquired and built and we will be -- we've handed that one over to Empire Sobeys, and we're really pleased with that construction. It is one of our focuses as we talked about the 3 asset classes that we're most interested in. Most of our industrial has been with our partnership and our strategic alliance with Empire. Never say never in the acquisition, but in world keen on industrial, it's a nice asset class for us. We've grown that portion of our portfolio mix. And so we're always interested in that platform. It is a part of our growth.

Operator

operator
#13

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Mario Saric from Scotiabank.

Mario Saric

analyst
#14

Coming back to the milestone, I may have missed it, but it appears that you own 100% of that project is the intention to own 100% of it going forward.

Mark Holly

executive
#15

Yes, that is the intention. So we own 100% of that asset. We are going to self-develop that asset and manage that asset. We've got an amazing team that has been working on residential projects over the last 5, 6 years. We've got the home base here in Halifax, and we've got one of the best operating teams directly adjacent to this site. So yes, we will own 100% of that asset.

Mario Saric

analyst
#16

Got it. And so, I guess, discussing returns, just conceptually, how do you -- how does running 100% of the project impact kind of the required return to kick start the project relative to actual interest previously at all?

Mark Holly

executive
#17

Yes, the last residential projects we had completed, we were as shared partnerships with Westbank and Prince [indiscernible]. All the metrics and all the project modeling that we did included all the overhead requirements, they're all embedded in with this project. And they're included in sort of that capital $130 million, $150 million that I referenced earlier. And so overviewing the metrics over the last few months and getting ourselves organized, we're really pleased in kind of where we're going to land on this project.

Mario Saric

analyst
#18

Got it. And then maybe, again, conceptually, when you think about interest rates have come up quite a bit for a lot about construction costs or construction interest rates coming up quite a bit. How do you think about returns in relation to construction interest rates or private market cap rates, if you can just conceptually kind of illustrate how you think about the relative return profile when it kicks in.

Mark Holly

executive
#19

Yes. I'll give you a bit of an overview on sort of the construction industry, and I'll pass it to Clinton, then I'll talk a little bit about cap rates and interest rates. But from the industry side, as we were going through our tendering process, we are seeing some good stability in the market. And we're also seeing good availability of labor and trade. Again, it's our home base and Halifax and so we've got some amazing partnerships already formed here. And on that side, we were really, really comfortable, and we're able to get to 75% certainty around the cost, which was one of the influential factors as we're looking at the total cost to move it forward. I'll pass it to Clinton who can talk about cap rates and interest rates.

Clinton Keay

executive
#20

Yes. So on the interest side, obviously, we'll be looking at implementing CMEC financing, the loss cost, funding possible on this and lots of liquidity to manage us through the construction phase as well. So from that standpoint, Mario, I'm not sure your question around how that ties into returns. But during the -- obviously, during the construction, we'll be capitalizing as a project cost, and that's built into the modeling. But at the same time, once we do get to substantial completion, we will be looking to put long-term CMC financing on that property.

Mario Saric

analyst
#21

And I think excluding kind of the value of the land, like how much equity do you think you need to put into the project?

Clinton Keay

executive
#22

Equity, well the value of the land is in there. We haven't disclosed that yet, Mario. Honestly, I don't want to give disclosure at this point in time. We'll get back to on that probably in the next quarter or so.

Mario Saric

analyst
#23

Okay. Maybe shifting gears on the retail side, just from a leasing perspective, are there any larger leases in the next 12 months or so that you're concerned about in terms of renewal? Or are you pretty confident that you can maintain what is essentially a record occupancy in '23?

Mark Holly

executive
#24

Mario, it's a good question and definitely been hitting record highs. As I continuously call out, I think we have one of the best leasing and operations team in the country, and they've done just an exceptional job in managing the relationships with the tenant. At this point, we don't see anything that would adjust those numbers. There's slight fluctuations up and down, but we have no material concerns around our portfolio. As we're operating in 3 really desirable asset classes. The tenant mix is really healthy, and we're really pleased with sort of where we sit today.

Mario Saric

analyst
#25

Got it. Okay. Last one for me, Mark, you talked about never say never in terms of buying industrial assets. How about on the office side? I know the office portfolio is somewhat integrated within the broader portfolio. What are your thoughts on the office exposure going forward?

Mark Holly

executive
#26

Yes. We have the Scotia war asset, and it is for those that know the asset, it is centric and Halifax occupancy rates in the near 90s or slightly above 90. It's got some of the best amenity services in that building and the operations team there and the tenant service team there has done just an excellent job. We have a pretty long Walt on that facility. In terms of where do we stand on office, it is not part of our 3 asset classes that we are -- what we've been on. This particular asset represents about 3% to 5% of our GLA. And so it's a small piece but end we're happy with the asset, but we're not looking to invest any more in that.

Operator

operator
#27

Your next question comes from the line of Tal Woolley from National Bank Financial.

Tal Woolley

analyst
#28

Just on the Opal Ridge project. You've obviously been liquidating some land there. How much more land is available there to liquidate? And do you have a sense of the timing of that?

Mark Holly

executive
#29

Yes. So yes, there is more land inventory. And yes, we do expect to sell more in the second half of 2023. We own about 6 parcels remaining. And so we will be looking to dispose of those assets over the course of the year or into next year, timing still to be determined or sort of working through the process at this point in time.

Tal Woolley

analyst
#30

Perfect. I mean you mentioned earlier wanting to increase the amount of sort of zone density within your pipeline projects. Do you look at target a certain amount that you're looking to surface over the next x number of years?

Mark Holly

executive
#31

We've got the 10 that I talked about, and that's -- we're making a push on 4 in 2023, which I'm pretty excited about. For us, it's ensuring that we have a really strong entitlement ladder. So we talk about development ladder just as important is the entitlement ladder. And so we are looking at all those assets and entitlements can be very complex and tricky and they move at different paces depending on which part of the geography are in Canada. And so where we sit today, doing a little bit of acceleration is what I wanted to push on and so the team is focused in on that. We're laser focused to try and push on the 10. So right now, I'm pretty happy with that. I don't have a target where I want to be at the end of this year, but I'm focused in on those types.

Tal Woolley

analyst
#32

I'm sorry, which of the 4 projects are the ones you're really looking to move forward at most?

Mark Holly

executive
#33

Yes, it's a great question, Tal. Unfortunately, you don't disclose that at this point. But we do have our development ladder in our documents and you can kind of see where they sit between near term, medium term, long term.

Tal Woolley

analyst
#34

Okay. And then you made reference to -- you made reference earlier to sort of seeing good market conditions in Halifax to proceed with a residential development like the Milestone. Where across the country are you sort of seeing the best -- the kind of best conditions to sort of proceed with residential development?

Mark Holly

executive
#35

Well, Halifax we're certain with 1% vacancy and a lot of dialogue in the community around a shortage of housing. And so we're really happy to bring the Milestone on board, it's got the right metrics and the right fit. I also am pretty bullish on the other side of the country in BC and Vancouver, and we had some pretty strong assets there. And as you know, we just finished Baby Street in BC. We just completed Le Duke in Quebec, and we did Bronte in Ontario. And so we're also pleased with all those 3 assets. But as we sort of focus in, the Milestone is the one that we're really excited about. It will be our first one in Ontario Canada. And so I'm looking forward to it. The metrics are right.

Tal Woolley

analyst
#36

Yes. So BC still would be maybe a little bit tough right now.

Mark Holly

executive
#37

No, I wouldn't say top. We're working, as you know, through the process on Broadway-Commercial and we're working through rezoning. We're working closely with our partner and with the municipality to try and ensure that we're building the right application for the community. And that's in our near-term plans, and we're just working through that process. So I wouldn't say that BC's tough. I think it is an exceptional market, and we're just kind of working through that project now.

Tal Woolley

analyst
#38

And on Broadway-Commercialdo you have an idea of when you can expect a final decision on that development?

Mark Holly

executive
#39

Yes. I wish I did. We're working through the rezoning process now with Westbank. We're hopeful that we'll be in a position to work through the process of rezoning. Rezoning can take time between 2024 and 2025, we'll hopefully be in a good spot to start taking a look at the entitlement. And then even though you're entitled, you're not shovel-ready. And so you've got to go through that process as well. So we're working through 2024 on entitlements and then we'll sort of make some decisions.

Tal Woolley

analyst
#40

Okay. And then just lastly, your weighted average term of maturity on your debt around 5 years right now or slightly over 5 years. I'm just wondering, with the shape of the curve and your interest rate outlook, what's your sort of goal? Are you looking to lengthen that maturity going forward? Or are you sort of comfortable with the term you have right now?

Clinton Keay

executive
#41

Yes. I would say in the range of 5% is a good number to be at. It will fluctuate plus or minus. But we're really comfortable with our debt ladder that we have today, Tal, really comfortable with the amount of liquidity available at hand. One of the key things is our floating rate debt at this point in time, pretty minimal on balance sheet. Really the only floating rate that I have is that Broadway construction loan, and we're looking to put CMHC financing on that to turn that in. So yes, no, I'm pretty happy with the latter and the term of maturity we have today.

Operator

operator
#42

Your next question comes from the line of Sam Damiani from TD.

Sam Damiani

analyst
#43

So just on the -- sorry, the Milestone, I love the name, by the way. How will we sort of funding for that unfolds? And what is Crombie's kind of target leverage on the balance sheet as that project gets reached completion.

Clinton Keay

executive
#44

Yes. So obviously, in the last year, Sam, we've done a lot of deleveraging to position ourselves to be able to focus on our development pipeline. I've always said, multiple sources of capital. Our focus is on being accounting BBB mid. And we've said that's a goal of ours on the rating agency side. So really important that we maintain our balance sheet in a balanced way, utilizing CMC financing and such a critical aspect to all this is gene cost-effective. So I would say, clearly, the balance sheet is something we want to pay attention to. And as I said in many previous calls, multiple sources of capital. We've proven that through last year with the sale of King George and a titled property that from time to time, we will sell and we're not in the business of doing it. But from time to time, it does provide with a high-value asset that we can get the proceeds it'll impact our EBITDA.

Sam Damiani

analyst
#45

That's great. And what about capital recycling from what we're seeing, there's certainly still a decent market for grocery-anchored retail. Is there a goal of recycling a certain amount of capital in the near term?

Mark Holly

executive
#46

No, not at this point. We did some recycling as we are working to get our balance sheet in order as we were pushing in development. We are in the best shape. We've been in quite some time in terms of available liquidity. I think it's a record high. So at this point, there is nothing in our strategy on dispositions.

Sam Damiani

analyst
#47

That's great. And last one for me. Just on the retail leasing, apart from some seasonal fluctuations, it looks like things are holding up very strong. Any watch list retailers on your mind today?

Mark Holly

executive
#48

Yes. We -- as you know, we're grocery-anchored, and it's a pretty resilient asset class and we're pretty proud to be in that. And we are not seeing any major fluctuations other than the miner as you called out the seasonality. We're actually seeing continued strong demand. And the demand is in those necessity-based retailers, discount stores, pharmacy, QSR, restaurants, we're seeing some strong demand. We added almost 100,000 square feet last year and sort of into the GLA. And so we're seeing strong demand.

Operator

operator
#49

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Pammi Bir from RBC Capital Markets.

Pammi Bir

analyst
#50

Apologies if I missed this, but just 2 quick ones. What were the proceeds or the gain or and again, I guess, on the sale of the Opal Ridge lines?

Clinton Keay

executive
#51

Just here I don't want to just tell you about -- go to the next question, and we'll have an answer for you in a second.

Pammi Bir

analyst
#52

Okay. Just the second one is really just on the milestone. What are you targeting for completion? And I'm curious as to if you can share sort of what range of rents are you underwriting at that project?

Mark Holly

executive
#53

So the timing of the project is going to start over the next month or 2, we suspect. As I said earlier, we've done a lot of work over the last couple of months, getting ourselves organized on certainty around cost and tendering of those projects. The duration of the project is somewhere in the range of 36 months. And so that's probably where we're going to land. As you know, when you get into construction, things kind of ebb and flow. In terms of market rents, we have built out a pro forma. We're not disclosing that number at this point in time, but we have done a robust analysis of the market when it's been changing. Halifax has a vacancy in around 1%. And we've been watching that, and we're seeing what's going on in the market and historical trends. So we're pretty conservative in our modeling, and we're really excited about the project. But at this point, we're not disclosing what the market rent will be.

Pammi Bir

analyst
#54

Okay. And Mark, the 36 months that you referenced, does that include the lease-up period? Or is the lease up period after that 3-year development period.

Mark Holly

executive
#55

It's following. So the -- we want to make sure that the asset is ready. There will be some pre-leasing. One of the great things about the areas which we're developing it as we have Scotia Square, and we've got some great opportunities to do some pre-leasing and showcasing what a great asset, it will be in advance. And so there will be a few months before the end of construction that we'll be able to start pre-leasing, but the majority of the leasing will happen when the asset is ready for people to view it properly.

Pammi Bir

analyst
#56

Clinton maybe if you have a chance, we can follow up on the Opal Ridge if it's not a bother.

Clinton Keay

executive
#57

But the gain was $3.2 million, as I said in my script so.

Operator

operator
#58

There are no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Ms. Ruth Martin for any closing remarks.

Ruth Martin

executive
#59

Thank you for your time today, and we look forward to updating you on our second quarter call in August.

Operator

operator
#60

Thank you so much, presenters. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a lovely day.

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