Curis, Inc. (CRIS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 14, 2024
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Operator
operatorGood afternoon, and welcome to Curis TakeAim Leukemia Data Update Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Diantha Duvall, Curis' Chief Financial Officer. Diantha, please go ahead.
Diantha Duvall
executiveThank you, and welcome to the Curis TakeAim Leukemia Data Update Call. Before we begin, I would like to encourage everyone to go to the investors' section of our website at www.curis.com to find the press release titled Curis Announces Additional data From Patients With Target Mutations In The TakeAim Leukemia Study. I would also like to remind everyone that during the call, we will be making forward-looking statements, which are based upon our current expectations and beliefs. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. For additional details, please see our SEC filings. Joining me on today's call are Jim Dentzer, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Dr. Bob Martell, Chief Scientific Officer. We will also be available for a question-and-answer session at the end of the call. I'd like to now turn the call over to Jim. T
James Dentzer
executiveThanks, Diantha. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Curis' TakeAim Leukemia Data Update Call. As you saw in the press release, we issued 30 minutes ago, we're pleased to announce updated data from our TakeAim Leukemia study for relapsed/refractory AML patients with a FLT3 or splicing factor mutation. This is an ongoing Phase I/II study evaluating emavusertib as a monotherapy at the recommended Phase II dose of 300 milligrams BID. Today we're reporting data for 25 new patients, expanding our total AML data set from 5 to 30 patients. Let's start with the splicing factor data. In July 2023, we disclosed data from 3 patients with relapsed/refractory AML with U2AF1 or SF3B1 mutation. In today's update, we're reporting data for 20 patients with a splicing factor mutation, 18 of whom are response-evaluable. Preliminary data show 4 of these 18 patients have achieved an objective response, one complete remission, or CR, 2 CRs with partial hematologic recovery or CRh and 1 morphologic leukemia-free state or MLFS. An additional 3 patients are ongoing and have shown increases in neutrophils, an important measurement for assessing the effectiveness of an AML therapy. We're especially encouraged by these data, given the grim prognosis facing AML patients with a splicing factor mutation. From the moment they're diagnosed, their expectation for survival is on median, only a few months. There are no approved therapies and currently available treatments are ineffective. The only study published for relapsed/refractory patients with a splicing factor mutation was for patients treated with the combination of azacitidine and venetoclax. This combination is a standard of care in the frontline setting. But when it was studied in relapsed/refractory patients with a splicing factor mutation, the response rate was 0. We believe the reason emavusertib is outperforming that benchmark is because Emavusertib blocks IRAK4, a key driver of disease in AML that is especially impactful in patients with a splicing factor mutation and which is not addressed by either azacitidine or venetoclax. Now let's turn to the FLT3 data. In July 2023, we disclosed data from 3 patients with relapsed/refractory AML with a FLT3 mutation. In today's update, we're reporting on 12 patients with a FLT3 mutation, 11 of whom are response-evaluable. Preliminary data shows 6 objective responses in these 11 patients, 3 CRs, 1 CRh and 2 MLFS. Of interest, all 3 of the patients who are naive to prior FLT3 treatment achieved objective responses. Even more encouraging, 3 of the 8 patients who had progressed on or following prior treatment with a FLT3 inhibitor, were able to achieve objective responses when treated with emavusertib. The benchmark for FLT3 inhibition is currently gilteritinib, which in its FDA label shows a 21% CR/CRh rate in relapsed/refractory patients. This is despite the fact that most of the patients in that study had never been treated with a FLT3 inhibitor before. We believe the reason emavusertib is outperforming that benchmark, even though most of the patients in our study had been previously treated with a FLT3 inhibitor and progressed, is because emavusertib blocks both FLT3 and IRAK4, the escape mechanism for FLT3 inhibition. Emavusertib's activity is consistent with its molecular design and consistent with what we saw in the lab. We're encouraged to see emavusertib continue to demonstrate its potential to be the best-in-class therapy for AML patients with a FLT3 mutation. In summary, we're very pleased with the progress emavusertib has made in the 10 months since the FDA's partial clinical hold was removed. The study has enrolled more quickly than expected and emavusertib continues to outperform the benchmarks for monotherapy in relapsed/refractory AML. Even in the most challenging patient populations and in patients who have progressed following treatment with venetoclax and in HMA. The anticancer activity we're seeing in our monotherapy studies is both exciting on its own and exciting for the signal it represents as we begin our frontline triplet study. We know IRAK4 is an important target in AML, and we know that neither venetoclax nor azacitidine addresses it. So the logical next step is to explore the ema ven aza triplet and its potential to establish a new benchmark for frontline therapy in all [ comers ] in AML. We look forward to sharing initial safety data from that study with you later this year. With that, I'd like to open the call for questions. Operator?
Operator
operatorThank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Bilal Jahangiri from Truist Securities.
Billal Jahangiri
analystI have a couple of questions. Is it fair to compare the 100% ORR and 66% CR/CRh rate in the 3 naive patients to the 21% benchmark in gilteritinib directly? And then I was wondering if you saw any more patients convert from an MLFS into a CR or CRh?
James Dentzer
executiveBill, this is Jim. Thank you for calling in, and thanks for the question. So I want to be careful to compare directly small data sets that aren't in the same study. I think what is fair is to understand the context in which the patient populations are sitting where the drugs are addressed. In the case of gilteritinib, that 21% CR/CRh rate, that was in the study where 87% of the patients were FLT3 naive. When we look at our study, only 3 of the patients were FLT3 naive, and we saw responses in all of them. Now I'm not going to suggest that we're going to get a 100% response rate in all patients that are FLT3 naive, of course, not. What I am going to suggest is that we expected, given the mechanism of action for emavusertib and the data that we saw in the preclinic, we do believe that emavusertib has the potential to be best-in-class. And the limited data we have so far support that thesis. In the naive patient population, which is where gilteritinib data or what gilteritinib data represent, in that population, we appear to be competitive and with the potential to be best-in-class. And then when we look at the patients who went on a FLT3 and progressed, well, those are patients who shouldn't be responding and yet we're getting better data in that population than the FLT3 inhibitors were getting in naive patients. So I would say we're always a little cautious in early data and comparing data from multiple studies. But I would say these data are a pretty powerful next step in supporting the thesis that this could be the best-in-class therapy for these patients.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Li Watsek from Cantor Fitzgerald.
Li Wang Watsek
analystJust a couple here. Maybe just comment a little bit on the duration of response that you've seen? And then for the 3 patients that are not response-evaluable, maybe just to expand a little bit on the reasons?
James Dentzer
executiveYes. Why don't I take the first one, and I'll ask Bob to chime in on the second one. On the duration of response, I think -- I mean, to be honest, it's a little too soon to talk about duration. So we just got off hold 10 months ago, got our sites up and running, got these patients enrolled. And I mean we're thrilled that we're already seeing a signal in responses. But I think we need to follow these patients for a longer period of time before we could have a discussion on where the duration sits and especially where it sits within the context of other available therapies. But I'd say for now, we are seeing what we'd like to see. Bob, would you like to comment on the 3 patients who haven't yet achieved a response?
Robert Martell
executiveI think your question was actually the patients who are not response-evaluable -- so typically, patients who come on to the study in order to be response-evaluable, they need a baseline evaluation as well as an on-study evaluation. And so those patients did not achieve that for various reasons. And reasons could include progressive disease or coming off study for some other reason. It's difficult to tell for sure. That's why we highlight the overall -- the number of patients as well as the subset of patients who actually did have responses. We also note several patients who -- as Jim mentioned, this is an ongoing study in several patients who have not achieved a response at this point but are continuing on study and showing signs of clinical improvement such as neutrophils improvement, things like that. And as we mentioned in our press release, infection and sepsis is one of the top causes of death in these patients. And so we see this -- maybe not as a specific direct endpoint per se, but as we're thinking about looking forward to future studies, in fact, pivotal studies with survival as the endpoint, these could be an important parameter to help give us a view as to the broader benefit of the drug across the patient population since improving neutrophil counts reduces risk for developing sepsis and infection.
Li Wang Watsek
analystAnd then just another question for the spices on mutated cohort. Just wondering, will you think the FDA regulatory bar for the CR/CRh might be in this population? Do you think the benchmark here is 0% like you alluded to earlier? Or maybe around 10% as we've seen with other AML studies but with other mutations? And then in terms of the next steps for the regulatory steps, maybe just remind us what are you going to do?
James Dentzer
executiveActually, Bob, would you like to take a shot at that one first.
Robert Martell
executiveYes. So that's a great question. I mean, ultimately, this would come down to a discussion with the FDA. I'd like to sort of point out a couple of aspects of this. One is the striking single-agent activity of the drug, where we're achieving some of these responses despite prior HMA and prior venetoclax. This has been very impressive. If we think about the prior precedents, we see that oftentimes, the FDA looks at the response rate, but they also look at the lower bound of the confidence interval. We believe that in a population where the response rate published so far is really 0%, having a lower bound above 10% is not unreasonable. But obviously, that is something that we need to discuss with the agency.
James Dentzer
executiveYes, I'd like to expand on that as well. Thank you, Li, for the question. So I would say, first, the traditional design in AML where you look at an endpoint, you follow the patients, you look at duration and to see how that compares, is certainly a valid approach and a valid path worth exploring with FDA. There may be another one in this population. And when we think about the patients with a splicing factor mutation, one of the reasons why -- it's not just no drugs work, but there really aren't any studies in this population is because the patients, frankly, don't live long enough to be studied. There was a really interesting paper in Oncotarget by [ Hu ], where they described that the prognosis for survival for patients once they're diagnosed with AML -- if they don't have a splicing factor mutation, their expectation on median is 29 months, about 2.5 years. If the patients do have a splicing factor mutation, that 29 months drops to 2 months. Once the patients are diagnosed, they have to go through frontline therapy. As you can imagine, the clock is ticking. There's not a whole lot of time once they've gone through frontline therapy and progressed for anything to work or, frankly, for that population to be studied. So one opportunity to have a discussion with the FDA about path is, of course, the traditional one, which is more surrogate endpoint driven and duration driven. But another one might be survival. To Bob's point, this is the first time that a single agent has shown activity in this population. I mean, we're getting decreased blast counts, increased heme counts. We're getting CRs. But most importantly, patients are staying alive and on study. That could be something of real interest with the agency. I don't want to commit to anything, of course, because that's something that we need to have a conversation about. But I think in this population, unlike FLT3 or any other subpopulation within the landscape of AML, there may be 2 interesting dialogues to have with FDA. One, the traditional one on surrogate end duration and then the other one, simply on survival.
Robert Martell
executiveCould I add also -- I think a really important aspect of this is single agent activity by itself is, in my view, very predictive ultimately of potential for combination efficacy and we see that as a very good sort of lead into our other combination trial that Jim mentioned earlier.
Operator
operatorYour next question is from the line of Ed White from H.C. Wainwright.
Edward White
analystI might have missed this, but I was just wondering if you can tell us about the 2 patients that had the dual mutation FLT3 and [ NSF ].
James Dentzer
executiveSure. So yes, you're exactly right. There were 2 patients in the population out of 30 that had dual mutation. Dual mutations are rare, a patient who has both the FLT3 and the splicing factor mutation. We did see one in the first data set, and we saw a second one in this new data set. So what would you like to know about them exactly? Their prognosis is, as you can imagine, tough because they have the splicing factor mutation.
Edward White
analystI was just wondering the -- did they respond?
James Dentzer
executiveSo we haven't gone into the detail on a patient-by-patient basis. I think we're going to have more detail on the poster when we get to the conferences. But I would suggest, just as a frame of reference, that patients with a splicing factor mutation, no matter what other mutations they have, FLT3, RUNX1 whatever that might be, their prognosis is -- it's going to be pretty tough. But we will be very interested in having a more detailed discussion when the posters come out at ASCO and EHA.
Edward White
analystAnd on the -- you gave us some data on patients that had MLFS response. Is that really a response that the FDA is interested in, don't they typically focus on CR/CRh? I'm just trying to think of how we should be viewing these patients that responded like that? Or are you thinking that they could turn to CR or CRh responses?
James Dentzer
executiveYes, Bob is probably the best person to talk to that one, Bob?
Robert Martell
executiveYes. So well, MLFS is basically a complete normalization of the malignant blast count in the bone marrow. So on the surface, it's a very strong sign of anticancer activity, in fact, so is the loss of the visible excess of blast in the bone marrow. And it's recognized as part of guidelines for AML. In terms of the FDA, so the FDA is obviously -- they've traditionally used CR and CRh, but clearly, they're interested in other endpoints as stand-alone endpoint such as minimal residual disease, MRD, and potentially MLFS. One of the things I think that's extremely important here and it's the same point that I made about the neutrophil count, and that is that this is a clear sign of sort of anticancer activity. And as that relates to thinking about our broader studies that ultimately go towards survival, demonstrating that we can control the cancer in this way is, I think, a good predictor of potential outcomes for future long-term survival study.
James Dentzer
executiveYes. And I would add to that, Ed, the way we think about MLFS is really twofold. To Bob's point, it's an indicator that the drug is working because what our drug does -- as you can imagine, in AML, what's happening is the bone marrow is packed with malignant blasts, and that's crowding out the body's ability to generate the neutrophils and platelets that it needs. So the first step is, of course, to address the blasts, and that's what our drug does. It reduces the blast count in the bone marrow. And then if the bone marrow is healthy enough, we hope to see it, of course, recover the capability to generate neutrophils and platelets. But step one in that process is you see the blast counts drop, hopefully all the way to achieve MLFS. So when you -- as you started your question, is that an indicator that the patients are on their way to CRh, CRI or full CR? And I would suggest that in the time course of events, yes, it's a necessary precursor. We have no guarantee that they'll continue to get on that road towards CRh or full CR. But that is, of course, where they would start heading as they're going in a good direction. And then the second point to Bob's comment, simply addressing the cancer in these patients is the whole point of the drug, and that is a really important sign for us. We've got very clear, very strong single-agent activity. And we think in certain patient populations, single agent activity is enough. It certainly seems to be compelling compared to other therapies that are out there. It's even more compelling when we think about going frontline. Knowing what we're seeing in the single agent activity tells us IRAK4 is an important target, that we're hitting it. And since we know frontline therapy doesn't do that, we should see in the clinic what we saw in the lab, which was synergy with aza and ven. And that could potentially establish a new benchmark. That's why we've just started that study, and these data reinforce our optimism.
Operator
operatorYour next question is from the line of Soumit Roy from Jones Research.
Soumit Roy
analystJim, if I may get a little bit of broad color from the strategic point of view, would you be pushing forward in the relapsed refractory setting, FLT3 or splices of mutation even if FDA gives some kind of guideline? Or would you conserve resources and focus purely on the frontline aza ven emavusertib triple combo?
James Dentzer
executiveYes, it's a great question. Thank you, Soumit. So I'd say, first and foremost, we need to have a data set ready to go talk to FDA. And as you've heard us say in the past, we believe roughly 20 patients is the right-sized data set to go have that conversation. So we think -- as we get those patients and we go to the FDA, in the case of FLT3, a monotherapy path would likely involve a CR/CRh endpoint with some element of duration, of course. And I would say today, we're not quite at that 20-patient bar, but we're getting close and the data are supportive of that path. In the splicing factor, I think we've got 20 patients. We need to keep following them. We've got 8 patients ongoing at the data cutoff. We need to follow them and see how they do. But we may have the very first drug that works in that setting. And as I said earlier in response to Li's question, there may be 2 paths available in that setting. We need to have a conversation with FDA. In the background, we have the frontline study started. So we certainly need to understand what is the most capital efficient path for the company, but we also want to make sure that we have a drug with a novel target that we think has the potential to really change the game for patients with AML. And I look forward to having a dialogue with FDA and trying to work through what is the best path forward of these 3 paths, monotherapy FLT3, monotherapy slicing factor and, of course, frontline in all comers.
Soumit Roy
analystIf you decide to still move forward on a splicing factor angle, you would have to develop a [ companion ] diagnostic and with a larger data set of like 80 to 100 patients, your response rate is probably going to pull back further. And thinking through that, you still want to go ahead on that?
James Dentzer
executiveYes. I think that's clearly one of the considerations that we're going to have as we go through that process with FDA. You're exactly right. Nobody has addressed this population before. So there isn't an approved companion diagnostic for splicing factor patients. There are [ G ] panels that look for these mutations and their standards. It's the FoundationOne channel, the alumina panel, places like MD Anderson have proprietary panels. But we would have to have a discussion with FDA that talked about -- we seem to have a drug that is active in this population. If that means we need to have a companion diagnostic, which is extra time and cost, that's going to have to be part of the calculus in figuring out from a Curis perspective, what makes the most sense in addressing that population with a new therapeutic?
Soumit Roy
analystA little bit -- a few questions on the data itself. Could you give us maybe some sense on the baseline blast percent, where they started and/or at least a range end? Why more patients are not undergoing stem cell transplantation, the CR patients and one last question is the kinetics of the blast reduction, do you expect you would see further deepening or except for 1 or 2 patients if this is pretty much it, the response rate?
James Dentzer
executiveYes. Thank you. Actually, Bob is probably the best person to answer that one.
Robert Martell
executiveWell, thanks, Soumit for those great questions. So the blast kind of baseline by definition, for AML, that needs to be above 20%. And so these patients had blast counts in the range of 20 up to -- I don't know what the highest was. I think it was in the range of 80 or so. So very high percentage blast. As Jim mentioned, many of these, if not most of the patients, their bone marrow was full of blast. And so the reduction that we see is pretty striking. Now for the FLT3 population, as we mentioned in the press release, these tended to occur very rapid drops in blast, which is quite impressive and very advantageous for those patients, 5 out of the 6 responses we're seeing within the first 28 days of being on study on the first bone marrow evaluation. And we've seen rapid drops as well in the splicing factor mutated disease in those patients as well. But as Jim mentioned, a number of those patients are still on. We have seen, over time, deepening of responses as well. We'll be giving more detailed data on those at the presentation itself.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Sean McCutcheon from Raymond James.
Sean McCutcheon
analystSo a couple on my end. First, what do you think the bar is post FLT3 inhibitor? So in the ADMIRAL study, the CR rate post FLT3 TKI was 19%, and they got a CRC rate of close to 50%, 48%. And you're seeing a CRC rate about 3 out of 8 and you're getting a 2 out of 8 for the CR/CRh. So just curious what you're thinking in terms of what the bar will be post FLT3 TKI, given that that's likely the initial approval setting? And then second, I noticed that a previously disclosed patient, the CR patient with an SRSF2 [ permutation ] was previously listed in the ASH 2023 disclosure as a one prior line of therapy. And it looks like in the abstract today in the table, it was listed as 2 prior lines of therapy. So just curious if you can provide some clarification on the baseline disposition of that patient?
James Dentzer
executiveThanks, Sean and thanks for calling in. I might ask Bob to take a first shot at that one and then I've got some thoughts as well. Bob?
Robert Martell
executiveYes. So I think in general, for single agent post FLT3, we believe that a targeted response rate in the low 20% in a single-arm study is sufficient based on the precedent of gilteritinib initial approval. I think the ADMIRAL study provides a little bit of a different context than this. So I think we'll wait to see, and we'll have this discussion with the agency. And again, would also project forward to subsequent combination studies as well. So not only in the mutated splicing factor population, but also in the FLT3 population combinations is something that we'll be evaluating going forward.
James Dentzer
executiveYes. And so I'd like to add to that, too. So when we look at the data for gilteritinib and just to make sure that we're all looking at the same database, gilteritinib was approved on 138 patients. They got a CR in 16 of those patients. So a 11.6% CR rate. CRh rate was 9.4%. So the CR/CRh rate that led to the approval of gilteritinib was 21.0%, 29 CR/CRhs out of 138 patients. When they later did a follow-on to that study, that CR rate did increase from the 11.6%, I believe, to 14.2%. So there was a modest increase as they followed those patients for longer periods of time. Just like our study, which is ongoing, if you follow those studies for a longer period of time, hopefully, some of those patients who had just started on drug or are already at MLFS what will convert into CRs. So I expect we would see the same kind of thing. I think what we can say without being overly aggressive about comparing data from different studies is that the reason why our CR/CRh rate is higher than theirs, even though we are in, as I said in response to an earlier question, even though we're in primarily patients who have failed prior FLT3 as opposed to naive patients, which is the case in the gilteritinib study, I would say it's because gilteritinib like midostaurin, like quizartinib, they only hit FLT3, not hitting FLT3 and the escape mechanism. So I think there is clearly, I'd say, optimism on our part or encouragement on our part based on the data we've seen to date, that if these data hold in larger data sets, we should get as friendly a reception from FDA as we're getting from our investigators who are, of course, eager to put the patients on to our study, and we're glad that the patients seem to be responding. I hope that was helpful.
Sean McCutcheon
analystAnd just on that one patient that was -- and correct me if I'm wrong, if it's not the same patient, but a prior patient that was listed as one prior line of therapy and that the abstract released today is listed as 2 prior lines of therapy for SRSF2 patients?
James Dentzer
executiveBob, do you want to speak to that patient? Actually, let me take that back. Let's be real careful about what [indiscernible] on a patient-by-patient question because I know what's in the poster. So yes, I think maybe, Sean, if that's all right, what I'd like to defer is detailed questions going on a patient-by-patient basis. And I don't want to risk incurring the ire of the organizers of ASCO and EHA. So I think I'm very happy talking about the summary of data that's being released. But of course, the detail that's going to show up in the poster, happy to take that question, but why don't we do that in Chicago when we're at ASCO or in Madrid at EHA, if that's okay? Yes, I think I just made my General Counsel and my head of Regulatory happy or at least head of the conference [indiscernible] happy with that, thank you.
Operator
operatorThis concludes our question and discussion. I would now like to turn the conference back over to the company's President and Chief Executive Officer, Jim Dentzer for any closing comments.
James Dentzer
executiveThank you, operator. And as always, thank you to the patients and families participating in our clinical trials, to our team at Curis for their hard work and commitment and to our partners at Origin and at the NCI for their ongoing help and support. We look forward to updating you again soon and hope to see all of you at ASCO and EHA. Thanks so much.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you very much for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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