Curis, Inc. (CRIS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 1, 2024

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology earnings 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Diantha Duvall

executive
#1

Thanks for joining us for Curis' business update covering the second quarter of 2024. To get started, I'd ask that you visit the Investor portion of our site, www.curis.com, where the press release for our second quarter 2024 business update sits alongside the associated financial tables. I also want to note that forward-looking statements will be part of what we discuss today, and those rest on what we currently expect and believe. Certain risks and uncertainties apply to these statements, so actual results could come out materially different. Our SEC filings contain further details. With me on the call today are Jim Dentzer, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Jonathan Zung, our Chief Development Officer. A question-and-answer period will also be held once the call concludes. At this point, I'll hand things over to Jim.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#2

Appreciate that, Diantha. Good morning to all, and thanks for joining Curis’ call covering our second quarter business update. We’ll begin with the TakeAim Lymphoma study, in which emavusertib is being tested alongside ibrutinib among relapsed/refractory PCNSL patients who have not responded following therapy with a BTK inhibitor. Typically, these individuals have received methotrexate chemo and radiation as front-line treatment, then ibrutinib in the second line. Once patients show progression on ibrutinib, they become eligible to join our trial, where emavusertib gets added to the ibrutinib regimen they are already on. The rationale behind this pairing is scientific: by blocking both pathways that drive NHL — the TLR pathway through emavusertib and the BCR pathway through ibrutinib — patients may be able to achieve an objective response even after progressing while on ibrutinib as a monotherapy. At last December’s ASH conference, we shared data covering the first five patients in this trial, reporting an objective response rate above 50%. Those findings were preliminary yet highly encouraging, particularly considering the substantial unmet need within this population. Enrollment has continued, and as mentioned in this morning’s press release, we have lately begun talks with regulatory authorities to secure alignment regarding the registrational path for emavusertib combined with ibrutinib in primary CNSL. Needless to say, nailing down the registrational path represents a vital next step for emavusertib’s development, and I’m happy with how our latest engagement with FDA went. I’m eager to share the results of those discussions when the timing is right. Talks are advancing in Europe too, and we’re happy to report that emavusertib received orphan drug designation for primary CNS lymphoma from the European Commission; this status brings multiple advantages, such as 10 years of market exclusivity, lower fees for protocol and scientific assistance along with marketing authorization applications, plus a centralized marketing authorization application process through the European Medicines Agency. Even as these regulatory conversations continue, we’re also making superb operational progress, and we expect to hit our goal of 30 clinical sites across the U.S. and Europe, with preliminary data from 15 to 20 patients by year end. Now let’s turn to the TakeAim Leukemia study, which tests emavusertib as a monotherapy in relapsed/refractory AML patients. Earlier this year at ASCO and EHA, we gave updated data on two patient groups within this study: those with a splicing factor mutation and those with a FLT3 mutation. Among the splicing factor mutation group, four of 18 evaluable patients saw an objective response, comprising one complete remission or CR, two CRs with partial hematologic recovery, or CRh, and one morphologic leukemia-free state or MLFS. In the FLT3 group, six of 11 evaluable patients saw an objective response, comprising three CRs, one CRh, and two MLFSs. Also worth noting, three of those patients had not previously been treated with a FLT3 inhibitor. Every one of those 3 patients showed an objective response, and among the other 8 patients — the ones whose earlier therapy with a FLT3 inhibitor had not worked — 3 managed to obtain an objective response on emavusertib; in our view, these results back emavusertib’s novel mechanism along with its promise as a therapy for people who have relapsed/refractory AML. Turning to the frontline setting, you might recall that preclinical findings show a synergistic effect whenever emavusertib is given together with azacitidine and venetoclax, which is the standard-of-care in frontline AML. A study of this triple combination — meaning emavusertib plus azacitidine and venetoclax in frontline AML — was started by us not long ago. Initial safety data from that study should be available later this year, we anticipate. All in all, the advances across both our TakeAim Leukemia and TakeAim Lymphoma studies make me very happy, and I’m eager to share further updates as the year moves along. Having said that, I’ll hand the call to Diantha for the financial update.

Diantha Duvall

executive
#3

Thanks, Jim. Curis posted a net loss of $11.8 million, which works out to $2.03 per share, versus a net loss of $12 million, or $2.47 per share, during the equivalent quarter in 2023. For the six months that closed on June 30, 2024, Curis recorded a net loss of $23.7 million, or $4.08 per share, compared with a net loss of $23.5 million, or $4.87 per share, over the same span in 2023. R&D expenses came in at $10.3 million in Q2 2024, against $10 million in the matching quarter of 2023. Over the six months ending June 30, 2024, R&D expenses reached $19.9 million, versus $19.2 million across the comparable stretch of 2023. G&A expenses amounted to $4.8 million in the second quarter of 2024, compared with $4.2 million in the same quarter of 2023. For the six months concluding June 30, 2024, G&A expenses were $9.7 million, versus $9 million during the equivalent period in 2023. The growth in both R&D and G&A spending stems mainly from elevated employee-related costs. Curis' cash, cash equivalents and investments came to $28.4 million, with roughly 5.9 million shares of common stock outstanding; we anticipate that our current cash, cash equivalents and investments ought to fund our planned operations into the first quarter of 2025. On that note, I'd like to turn the call over to questions. Operator?

Yale Jen

analyst
#4

Morning, and thank you for fielding this. Also, congratulations on everything that's been accomplished. I have a couple of things. First, regarding the PCNSL data readout expected near the close of the year, what bar do you have in mind for moving the program ahead? Put differently, which guidepost are you watching for? Then I have one more after that.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#5

Sure — a quick reminder, Yale. And thanks, incidentally, for joining the call to ask. Keep in mind that our target population is patients whose disease progressed after a BTK inhibitor. Let's frame it properly. First-line therapy didn't work for them. The BTK inhibitor didn't work for them. Had we put them back on the BTK inhibitor — essentially repeating that identical option — naturally, there would be no response. What we hope to demonstrate is whether objective responses can be achieved at all. Of course, I recognize results so far have come in considerably stronger than that, but for patients, I'd say the bar comes down to this: can we prove the thesis is sound — that despite prior failure on a BTK inhibitor, the addition of emavusertib shifts that regimen's efficacy in a fundamental way. That is truly what we're after.

Yale Jen

analyst
#6

All right.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#7

And naturally, when you're dealing with a bigger patient population, correct? Naturally.

Yale Jen

analyst
#8

Sure. And you're expecting roughly 15 patients, maybe at minimum, around when you share the results?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#9

Correct.

Yale Jen

analyst
#10

All right. And I guess my next question relates to the leukemia side — congratulations on everything the positive results showed previously. From what I understand, you said there are various paths available moving forward, clearly based on what the data looks like when it comes out soon. A few of those paths regarding plus three — you could go with either the naïve patient group or heavily pretreated patients, or also for the FFM < >, you would clearly be dealing with patients who have prior exposure in that setting only. How do you think about the different choices, or perhaps you'd rather pursue all of them leading into 2025?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#11

Sure. So, as you're aware, when it comes to leukemia, there's greater optionality, and that's a lucky result of how the molecule was designed, correct? The reason being that the molecule targets IRAK4, which nearly every patient expresses.

Yale Jen

analyst
#12

Hi there? Can you hear me?

Jonathan Zung

executive
#13

Operator, Jonathan Zung here, calling from Curis. Jim is attempting to reconnect.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#14

We’re back in, Jonathan.

Jonathan Zung

executive
#15

Okay.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#16

I'm not certain what took place. The line dropped us from the call. So I was in the middle of replying to Yale Jen's question. Yale, maybe you can tell me the point at which I was cut off?

Yale Jen

analyst
#17

Absolutely, that's fine. Now, regarding question two: when it comes to leukemia, there are several paths you could weigh — for FLT3, whether you'd aim at treating either the naïve group — naïve or those who've had prior treatment — and then for the FFM, which you'd obviously only give to patients already treated before. So out of those three choices…

Jim Dentzer

executive
#18

All right.

Yale Jen

analyst
#19

… I suppose you could pick whichever you like — first, second, or both?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#20

Sure. Let me share a few reflections. To start, we should address frontline therapy, which means the combo, and after that monotherapy involving FLT3 on its own, and then inside FLT3, naturally, we’d split things into distinct cohorts — one for naïve patients and one for those who are experienced.

Yale Jen

analyst
#21

Sure.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#22

As you're aware, the molecule's appeal in leukemia partly stems from its action against IRAK4 and FLT3. IRAK4 shows up in almost every AML patient, and FLT3 — well, we know that mutation appears in about one-third of that group. Given this distinctive targeting, our view is that it might work as a standalone treatment in leukemia, unlike in the frontline setting, where we expect it to reach all comers alongside azacitidine and venetoclax, and naturally in non-Hodgkin's lymphoma paired with ibrutinib. When we examine monotherapy within the FLT3 subgroup, your point is spot on. It might suit both treatment-naïve and previously treated individuals. With unlimited resources, pursuing every one of those groups would naturally be perfect. At year-end, when we share a fuller readout of the dataset at ASH, one topic we'll certainly take up is which groups we'll choose to push hardest going forward. So I'd suggest watching for that conversation, though every one of those possibilities lies ahead of us.

Yale Jen

analyst
#23

All right, that's a big help. Perhaps I can squeeze in just one more — regarding IRAK4 work, what stands out most for the next event coming up?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#24

Sure. When it comes to the IRAK4 symposium, we're delighted to be holding it once more this year. The way you know, excitement around IRAK4 generally has climbed within academia annually from the time we began putting out publications on IRAK4's usefulness in oncology. This year, I believe we have a truly excellent mix of participants, with leukemia specialists, lymphoma specialists, plus attention given to solid tumor efforts; so the clinical results Curis has concentrated on today, and in our public forums, really center on leukemia and lymphoma, since that's where our clinical results sit. Yet we also have five ISTs running in solid tumors, and there's an abundance of genuinely compelling preclinical results, with a number of them now starting trials in patients too; so over the months, quarters, and years ahead, I anticipate that will grow into a more and more significant and fascinating piece of the story.

Yale Jen

analyst
#25

All right. That's quite useful, and congratulations on the advancement. I'm eager for ASH to hear further specifics.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#26

Thanks a lot.

Ed White

analyst
#27

Morning. I appreciate you taking my question. Jim, during your comments on TakeAim Lymphoma, you said you'd just had a meeting with the FDA about the registrational pathways. I'm curious what your thinking is regarding the regulatory route you'd consider optimal? Thanks.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#28

Naturally, our preference would be to proceed as quickly as possible. In drug development, the standard approach involves finishing your Phase I, II study, holding an end-of-phase meeting, and afterward discussing with the FDA the design of the pivotal study. Given how evident the unmet need is here, and since the data we released last December appeared quite compelling, we felt it made sense to begin those conversations somewhat earlier than planned, and we're thankful the regulatory authorities were open to engaging in them; so those talks are underway right now, and obviously I'm not able to say anything about discussions in progress, but we'd be eager to collaborate with both FDA and EMA on the fastest route to bring this drug to the patients who desperately need it.

Ed White

analyst
#29

Alright, Jim. I appreciate you taking my question.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#30

Certainly. Thanks. Operator?

Soumit Roy

analyst
#31

Hello. Good morning, Jim and all. Apologies — I ran a bit late and so I wasn't there for the opening few minutes of your prepared comments. Is the — are you continuing to go after the relapsed/refractory indication for FLT3 or spliceosome using ema as a single agent from here on? Is that what the FDA discussion concerns?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#32

Correct. A comparable question came from Yale, from Yale Jen at Laidlaw regarding this. Thanks, Soumit. So, as you're aware, we have chances in leukemia with both single-agent and combo approaches, and naturally, the combo chance in NHL. The NHL1 is likely what most people are thinking about most, since that seems to be the program that has advanced the furthest. Like I said, we're currently talking with regulators about what the registrational design should look like. Regarding EMA, FLT3 and spliceosome as single agents, those results appear quite compelling; we're set to get a readout from that data set of about 20 patients per arm before the year is over. And then, naturally, the combo, which we would anticipate, assuming it reflects what we observed in the lab, could be a genuinely compelling addition to frontline, to the existing standard of care in that setting. For FLT3 and spliceosome, once we see those data mature, we'll hold that discussion at the point it arrives. And naturally, that first readout, despite being only a safety readout, has plenty of people paying attention to it too. We'll be facing quite the difficult choice about which of these studies to put our focus on first and fastest, but keep that in mind.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#33

Alright. So would it be reasonable to think those FDA meetings will take place after ASH, perhaps in Q1 of 2025?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#34

Regarding NHL…

Soumit Roy

analyst
#35

Or…

Jim Dentzer

executive
#36

We've already started those conversations. When it comes to FLT3, our plan is to hold off and review how the data turn out prior to approaching the FDA. My sense is that AML is a busier space; with primary CNS lymphoma, there are no approved drugs, as you're aware. I recognize our data in the third-line setting are early, but what we're seeing suggests results that don't have an equivalent for these patients in that setting; so with the obvious unmet need and the data we've observed so far, I believe there's a chance to deliver a treatment to patients that in these early days looks very promising. That's why we intend to pursue it as aggressively as possible; and like I mentioned, we appreciate that the regulatory authorities were willing to take up that discussion sooner than is typical for us.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#37

Understood. When you say NHL, are you referring to the PCNS?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#38

That's right.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#39

Okay.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#40

Yes. Yeah.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#41

Also, whenever you reach out to doctors about enrolling people, do any particular remarks come up—like whether they're hesitant, or since nothing else exists for such patients, pitching ema in this context becomes simple?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#42

No. Sadly for those individuals, though luckily for the trial, the unmet need within this group is, honestly, dreadful for them. Nothing has received approval. First line, as you're aware, consists of high-dose methotrexate, chemo, plus whole brain radiation. After progressing beyond that, ibrutinib usually comes next, and following that, genuinely nothing remains; our hope is to contribute to a fix for such patients by delivering this new treatment, which appears—early days, early data—to hold potential and look quite promising. So, as I mentioned, enrollment continues. Community enthusiasm runs strong. I'm aware that while attending the conference, you personally managed to meet up with multiple investigators. The excitement level is genuinely elevated. Early days, we recognize. I constantly aim to note that cautiously. Still, I must say what we observe makes us extremely thrilled. Our doctors share that thrill. And we feel fortunate that regulators showed willingness to engage in talks somewhat sooner than planned, which naturally left us quite encouraged.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#43

Right. Just like what happened with Gilead’s CAR-T in PCNSL as well, there’s a pretty elevated rate of ICANS. So a small molecule, given your safety data, definitely makes that possible. One more thing, and this may be somewhat removed from the blood cancer side — on solid tumors, is there any line of sight into when the bladder cancer study might begin enrolling? I’m not sure whether that’s an investigator-run trial involving KEYTRUDA plus emavusertib. I’d welcome any perspective.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#44

Sure. So, as you’re aware, at present there are 5 investigator-sponsored trials underway in solid tumors. Our attention has been on the NHL trial and, naturally, the leukemia trial, since those carry company sponsorship and those are where clinical data exists. That said, we also have research ongoing in pancreatic and gastroesophageal, melanoma, urothelial bladder cancer, and colorectal. Every one of those has strong preclinical findings that have appeared at a range of conferences across the past 12 months to 24 months. And at this stage they’re transitioning into the clinic, which is genuinely thrilling. My hope is that we’ll be able to report results from a few of these trials during 2025. Once again, though, these are ISTs — investigator-sponsored trials, not sponsored by the company. As a result, we obviously lack control over enrollment as well as how data gets reported from them. Still, we’re monitoring them closely, and we remain extremely grateful for the partnership with every one of these study sponsors.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#45

Thanks once more for fielding every question, and congratulations on the advances.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#46

Thanks so much.

Li Watsek

analyst
#47

Morning, everyone. Apologies if this was covered before I joined, but Jim, perhaps a question about digital, specifically how you see the opportunity in lymphoma compared with AML. From what it sounds like, the unmet need in lymphoma is somewhat greater and possibly less competitive. So how do you think about prioritizing lymphoma against AML? Might you be holding off for some kind of regulatory feedback before deciding?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#48

Yes. Thanks, Li. Appreciate you dialing in. Appreciate the question. So regarding NHL versus AML, there are a few ways to address that. Naturally, I believe the interest in NHL stems partly from the fact that this is the newest data and the area where we are, naturally, in conversations with regulatory agencies. Throughout the NHL landscape, it is clearly a significantly bigger market too. Thus, BTK inhibitors generated $11 billion in revenue during 2023. It is an enormous field that has not seen any novel drugs come into it, pardon me, over the past few years. And should our latest data continue to hold, we would, naturally, aim to advance very aggressively in primary CNS lymphoma. Then, with that data available and those processes in motion, we would extend across NHL into all of those other indications. I think that is genuinely what fuels investor enthusiasm and why we concentrate on that more. In leukemia, I think the enthusiasm comes from the fact that although it is a more competitive area, as you point out, the molecule truly appears to have been fortuitously crafted for an AML setting. I mean, it was clearly intentionally created as an IRAK4 inhibitor, and as you are aware, we intentionally designed key oncology targets of interest. Yet since it targets IRAK4 and FIT3, it genuinely can deliver an uncommon benefit, a distinct and standalone targeted benefit for patients in that setting; so, yes, I think the enthusiasm around NHL is partly due to the advanced stage of the data within the context of the unmet need and the regulatory progress. But AML is also very, certainly very much on our radar screen.

Li Watsek

analyst
#49

All right, and yes, I appreciate that context. Then, could I ask about the frontline AML combo approach? I'm just wondering whether there's any intention to stratify based on the long IRAK4 discussion and possibly to construct a step plan around that, plus one for all comers?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#50

Yes, thank you. As you mention, or at least as you suggest, our thinking in leukemia is that monotherapy and combination each need their own distinct approach. With FLT3 as another target, since this drug hits both IRAK4 and FLT3, I believe that gives us the chance, potentially, for best-in-class therapy among FLT3 inhibitors, which represent one-third of the AML population. And once more, I realize you're aware of this, but for everyone else listening, the research we cite, first published in the Melgar paper < >, demonstrated that the escape path is IRAK4, which is why patients receiving a FLT3 inhibitor don't perform as well as one would hope. To be specific, it's toll-like receptor pathway signaling via IRAK4. Thus, when we block FLT3 and IRAK4 together, we're shutting down both the primary driver — the main disease pathway — and its escape route. In our opinion, despite the data being early, that genuinely clarifies why these results appear superior to those of other FLT3 inhibitors. So for monotherapy, I consider that a genuinely compelling option. On the frontline side, that trial has only just begun, so it remains to be seen if it will succeed, though the preclinical findings are unambiguous. IRAK4 is expressed in almost every AML patient, all comers. And as we know, azacitidine and venetoclax, the present standard-of-care, fail to hit it. Consequently, the preclinical data revealed a meaningful efficacy gain when emavusertib was added to standards-of-care, when ema was added to the aza-ven doublet. We're hoping to observe that in patients, and that study has just launched, so stay tuned. I hope that's helpful.

Li Watsek

analyst
#51

Thanks.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#52

Yeah.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#53

Thanks, Operator, and thanks to all of you for being on today's call. As ever, our gratitude goes out to the patients and families taking part in our clinical trials, to the Curis team for their dedication and effort, and to our partners at Aurigene, the NCI, and the academic community for their continued collaboration and support; we're eager to bring you another update before long. Operator?

Operator

operator
#54

That wraps up today's conference call, everyone. We appreciate you joining us, and please go ahead and hang up your lines.

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