Curis, Inc. (CRIS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 5, 2025

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology earnings 32 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Diantha Duvall

executive
#1

Thanks for joining us for Curis' Second Quarter 2025 Business Update Call. To start, we'd ask that all of you visit the Investor portion of our site, www.curis.com, where you'll find the press release covering our second quarter 2025 business update along with the accompanying financial tables. Also, a reminder that forward-looking statements will be made on this call. Those are grounded in what we currently expect and believe, they carry certain risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially. For more on that, please refer to our SEC filings. On the call with me today are Jim Dentzer, our President and Chief Executive Officer; Jonathan Zung, our Chief Development Officer; and Dr. Ahmed Hamdy, our Chief Medical Officer. There will also be a question-and-answer period once our call concludes. I'll hand things over now to Jim.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#2

Thanks, Diantha. Good morning to all of you, and thanks for joining Curis' call covering our second quarter business update; steady forward movement continues in our TakeAim Lymphoma trial, where we're studying emavusertib given together with ibrutinib in PCNSL patients. Let me remind you that TakeAim Lymphoma uses a single-arm design with an ORR endpoint, layering emavusertib onto a patient's BTKi regimen once they've progressed straight through BTKi monotherapy. Following joint talks with FDA and EMA, our expectation is that this trial will back accelerated filings across both the U.S. and Europe. During the coming 12 to 18 months, our focus will be on bringing in 30 to 40 more patients, the number required for the NDA and EMA submissions. We were at both ASCO and EHA in June, where we got to speak with quite a few KOLs, and they stay enthusiastic and supportive regarding moving emavusertib into further indications in CLL and NHL. What intrigued them most was exploring whether emavusertib could truly reshape the treatment paradigm for CLL and NHL patients who currently receive BTKi monotherapy. BTKi inhibitors became standard of care in CLL and NHL thanks to delivering a solid overall response rate. Yet those patients on BTKi generally get partial responses rather than complete remission. Not surprisingly, patients given a BTK inhibitor wind up remaining on it as lifelong chronic treatment. And since complete remission is never reached, a large share of these patients acquire BTKi resistant mutations and eventually progress; our aim is to better the current standard of care by combining emavusertib with a BTK inhibitor, letting patients reach deeper responses and possibly discontinue treatment, which lowers the chance of BTKi resistant mutations emerging and enhances a patient's quality of life. Testing this hypothesis begins with launching a proof-of-concept study in roughly 20 to 30 patients who have relapsed/refractory CLL and are presently responding to their BTK inhibitor, yet cannot reach complete remission or MRD negativity; the design for this study is finished, and we're aiming for first patient in by year-end plus initial data in mid-2026. Now let's shift to AML. You may remember that Dr. Eric Winer of Dana-Farber presented, at the ASH conference in December, 21 relapsed/refractory AML patients carrying a FLT3 mutation; those data demonstrated a 38% composite CR rate in the salvage line setting, with 10 objective responses among 19 patients, and 7 of those 10 responses seen at the first assessment. For context, gilteritinib, the top FLT3 inhibitor in relapsed/refractory AML, won approval with a composite CR rate of 21% in a patient population where just 13% had prior treatment with a FLT3 inhibitor. In the emavusertib study, more than 80% of patients had prior treatment with a FLT3 inhibitor. Our view is that emavusertib's data are so compelling because of its novel mechanism of action, blocking IRAK4 as well as FLT3. Looking ahead for emavusertib in AML, the upcoming move is to run a registrational trial pitting emavusertib against gilteritinib among patients who are relapsed or refractory. We're equally enthusiastic about what emavusertib might do in high-risk MDS. Back in June, word came out that the VERONA trial, which examined pairing venetoclax with azacitidine, did not hit its primary endpoint. That development sparked considerable conversation at medical conferences and made people more eager to explore combining azacitidine with emavusertib. We've observed emavusertib working as a monotherapy in hrMDS, and our belief is that teaming emavusertib with azacitidine could tackle an obvious unmet need and deliver a strong new option for MDS patients. Last, I want to share where things stand with our triplet trial in frontline AML. To recap, we launched a Phase I trial during the prior year examining emavusertib as an add-on to venetoclax plus azacitidine in frontline AML. Right now we are assessing various dosing schedules for emavusertib, venetoclax and azacitidine. So far, enrollment has wrapped up for both the 7-day and 14-day emavusertib dosing schedules within a 28-day triplet cycle, and we're eager to share how this trial is going at the ASH conference in December. As is clear, this was a highly exciting and productive quarter for us, and we anticipate offering further updates as the year moves along. With that, I'll hand the call back to Diantha for the financial update. Diantha?

Diantha Duvall

executive
#3

Thanks, Jim. For the second quarter of 2025, Curis posted a net loss of $8.6 million, which works out to $0.68 per share, versus a net loss of $11.8 million, or $2.03 per share, during the same period in 2024. R&D expenses came in at $7.5 million in the second quarter of 2025, compared with $10.3 million in the same period of 2024. That decline was mainly driven by reduced employee-related costs along with research, consulting and clinical costs. For the 6 months ended June 30, 2025, research and development expenses totaled $16 million, versus $19.9 million in the same period of 2024. G&A expenses were $3.5 million in the second quarter of 2025, compared with $4.8 million in the same period of 2024. That reduction largely reflected lower employee-related and legal costs. For the 6 months ended June 30, 2025, general and administrative expenses reached $7.5 million, compared with $9.7 million in the same period of 2024; during July, we closed a registered direct offering and concurrent private placement, generating net proceeds of approximately $6 million. As of June 30, 2025, Curis' cash and cash equivalents stood at $10.1 million, and roughly 10.7 million shares of common stock were outstanding. On the basis of our current operating plan, we expect that our $10.1 million of existing cash and cash equivalents as of June 30, combined with the proceeds from the July 2025 offerings, should allow us to fund our existing operations into the first quarter of 2026. With that, I'd like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Li Watsek

analyst
#4

I suppose I have a few things to ask regarding the BTK combination trial in CLL. Where do you expect the bar to be set? And given how the CLL landscape keeps shifting, with BTK degraders and next-gen BCL2 inhibitors in play, how do you see yourselves fitting in? Then my second question concerns the AML triplet data expected later this year — it would help if you could lay out what we should expect.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#5

Li, thanks for asking. We really appreciate it. Ahmed, you are probably in the best position to address the CLL study.

Ahmed Hamdy

executive
#6

Okay, so when it comes to BTK inhibitors, as Jim mentioned, what you typically see is partial responses, and patients end up taking that medication on a chronic, lifelong basis, which brings risks of mutations and toxicities. Our thinking is that if emavusertib is added to a BTK inhibitor that's commercially available, you could get MRD-negative remissions or complete remissions. That in turn would allow for treatment that's time-limited, and honestly that's what everyone is aiming for in CLL at this point, given the unmet medical need. Now regarding degraders, those are still being developed. There appear to be some responses that are short-lived, and none have received approval so far, but our plan is to combine them with BTKi inhibitors that are commercially available; does that address what you were asking, Li?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#7

Right. Let me jump in on that too, Li, picking up where Ahmed stopped regarding degraders. It makes no difference to us whether you degrade BTK or inhibit it. You're blocking the BCR pathway either way. Our compound blocks the other pathway — the Toll-Like Receptor pathway. So any approach that takes down BTK is fine, combine it with ours, and results ought to improve. On BCL2, the question is reasonable. There are many indications, or many drugs, being developed in CLL, since it's such a large indication; and my expectation is that, just like now, plenty of different competitors will find room. Still, we have strong confidence that today's standard of care, BTKi, improves only when ema is added, and it may be able to deliver a regimen that is safe and tolerable, one that could let patients move to time-limited treatment; we find that quite compelling. And clearly, the investigators agree. We'll have to wait for the data to see, but right now, I'd say we're quite excited; regarding the AML triplet, Jonathan, Dr. Zung, could you perhaps address that?

Jonathan Zung

executive
#8

Correct — so what we intend to do is share the efficacy and safety findings from the 7-day and 14-day cohorts at the ASH conference toward the end of this year.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#9

Yeah. And clearly, Li, those abstracts have to get accepted. That said, I'd say our confidence is fairly high when it comes to our capacity to share data at that conference. So that's all I'll say on it, and I'm looking forward to discussing it then.

Sara Nik

analyst
#10

I wanted to ask about the TakeAim Lymphoma trial and how accrual will move forward across the coming 12 to 18 months. Could you share any detail on how that accrual is proceeding among those next 30 to 40 target patients — whether additional sites still need to open, or whether it's moving along about as anticipated?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#11

Of course. It's proceeding the way we anticipated — steady — though this is an ultra-rare population. As you're aware, more than 30 sites are now open. Our stated expectation previously, and we keep stating it, is that each clinical site should be able to enroll 1 patient per calendar year; for instance, we'll phone Sloan Kettering and request a single patient during 2025. Certain sites may enroll more, while others do so at a lower frequency. That's simply what occurs in an ultra-rare indication, and it's the reason we have more than 30 sites. So I'd characterize it as on track, and we're very eager to gather those data and hold a productive conversation with FDA and EMA.

Danya Ben-Hail

analyst
#12

Congratulations on the advancement. I've got a handful of questions. The initial one concerns PCNSL. Regarding the upcoming data update, ought we to anticipate patient count or mature data?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#13

Right. We've not yet provided any direction on what that next update will hold, beyond the obvious fact that the next suitable conference would naturally be ASH; however, what we're telling people is that whatever data exists when that time comes is what we'll show. Enrollment therefore keeps going. Data collection keeps going, and whatever we've got is what we'll present. And like I said, what we've observed up to now is fairly compelling. My hope is that going forward, the data will keep demonstrating that same point — that we possess a clearly effective drug for patients who are naive or for those whose prior BTK therapy failed. So, I'd suggest keeping an eye out.

Danya Ben-Hail

analyst
#14

Right; and do you have any plans to bring more clinical sites on board?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#15

That doesn't seem necessary to me. As things stand, the quantity of sites we currently have works well for us, and enrollment is proceeding as expected. So our confidence level is fairly high. Of course, fresh from the medical conferences, we've had numerous excellent conversations and plenty of enthusiasm from the KOLs. Still, I would say as of now, adding more sites isn't required in order to remain on schedule.

Danya Ben-Hail

analyst
#16

And for the CLL program, one final question. So what line of therapy do you expect most patients to be in — which one are you intending to enroll? Is your assumption that every one of them will have had a BTKi already?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#17

Yes. In fact, Ahmed, would you like to address that?

Ahmed Hamdy

executive
#18

Absolutely. So it could be used in any treatment line, as long as those individuals are receiving a BTK inhibitor that's commercially available; that means it may be in second line, or it may be people who've taken a BTK and haven't gotten to a complete remission or MRD negativity.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#19

Right, and as a quick note, Danya, when you look at the prescribing information for ibrutinib—or for acalabrutinib too, for that matter—the CR rate shown for those patients is exactly 0. Now, at some point, obviously, many trials are going to exist, and a few patients might be able to reach CR, but the bigger takeaway is that this happens very seldom. What we hope we can accomplish is to reproduce what has been observed in AML as well as in primary CNS lymphoma. That means the agent pairs well with other therapies. Given its novel mechanism, we ought to be able to repeat what has been observed in PCNSL, which is that complete responses can be achieved. And if we are able to deepen those responses and give patients the chance to move to a time-limited treatment, then I believe we truly transform how they can be managed, and it provides a genuinely exciting alternative for them.

Analyst

analyst
#20

Anna here, filling in for Kripa. We have two things to ask. With what's been going on at the FDA, could you say whether any of it has affected your PCNSL accelerated approval plans? And have talks with the FDA been ongoing? Then second, when it comes to the cash runway, is there anything new on BD efforts or similar? And are there any wider trends, oncology especially, that could have a read-through to Curis?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#21

Absolutely. Thanks, Anna. We appreciate those questions. Jonathan, do you want to address the FDA?

Jonathan Zung

executive
#22

Absolutely, Jim. Anna, as far as the agency situation goes, right now there's been no shift at all in where we stand. We held meetings with them during last year, we've got agreement on the main activities together with them, and we are carrying those out.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#23

Absolutely, and I want to build on what was just said. Anna, I'd simply repeat the view you're seeing across every publication and every paper out there; and that is that right now at the FDA, the situation is somewhat worrisome given all the unpredictability. What gives us some reassurance is that our leading beachhead indication in NHL happens to fall within primary CNS lymphoma, a setting where no drugs have been approved at all. No standard exists. And we believe that makes for a quite favorable set of facts for us as we keep holding discussions with the FDA. Naturally, the talks with EMA, which I'd describe as just as favorable, are clearly untouched by whoever currently holds the administration. Still, the general mood, though I doubt it affects Curis very much, definitely does affect the biotech sector. And I'd urge everybody to speak up and make their worries known about it. Regarding the cash runway, Diantha, would you like to address that?

Diantha Duvall

executive
#24

Right. So as I said before, our cash runway extends into '26, and we keep assessing options that are both dilutive and non-dilutive as a way to stretch that runway; clearly, that's something we'll aim to pursue during this year's second half so these programs can move forward the way we laid out today.

Yale Jen

analyst
#25

Congratulations on the advancement. For my first question, I want to ask about the triplets. You brought up the 7 days and 14 days that were finished. From what I recall, during the previous call, you all noted that a 21 days dosing schedule might be necessary. So I'm wondering if that 21 days is still the plan, or will the 2-time point be enough?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#26

Of course, I'd rather not say too much regarding the data in our possession, since we are hoping to present it at ASH. What I would say is that my expectation is that a variety of regimens are going to be attempted in the real-world setting, and we will want to keep that in mind and evaluate them as thoroughly as possible while we remain in this clinical setting. So for the time being, I'd say we feel very good about our current position, and we are eager to talk about it in greater detail once the data are public. In the interim, though, as I mentioned, I believe our optimism comes through — having a drug that pairs well with other drugs and has produced published responses in truly difficult indications is quite encouraging.

Yale Jen

analyst
#27

All right, that's really useful. One more thing I wanted to ask: you're discussing CLL, and enrollment of patients there might begin near the close of the year, yet all of you have also mentioned refractory AML quite a bit. So what I'd like to know right now is, once PCNSL enrollment is underway, how will you decide which development effort comes first, and what takes priority next?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#28

Yes, that's a wonderful question, Yale. Thanks for raising it. As you might expect, this was a nice problem to have. We arrived at ASCO and EHA with strong data and left with plans for 5 distinct trials. We definitely have additional studies we could launch, with plenty of enthusiasm from the community, beyond what we can honestly pay for. So internally we're having quite active conversations about spending in the most capital-conscious manner and the most capital-efficient manner we can. This isn't shocking. For quite a while, biotech has faced a difficult financing climate. And the reason we've managed to thread the needle across recent years, keep advancing, and produce strong data in spite of that climate comes down to our discipline. And I believe that's thanks to Diantha and, honestly, the whole company. Everyone here is driven to secure approval for this drug and to accomplish that in the smartest, finest, and quickest manner possible, and that work continues.

Yale Jen

analyst
#29

Great. Perhaps I can fit in one additional question here. You do have investigator-sponsored research in solid tumors, so broadly speaking, what's the status and is there anything new?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#30

Yes, there's nothing new to share on those right now. As a reminder — and thank you, Yale — we discuss 5 distinct ISTs in our corporate presentation. Naturally, since these are ISTs, the positive aspect is that the NCI, NIH, or academic collaborators are the sponsors, which means they don't run up much expense for Curis. The negative side of any investigator-sponsored trial, or IST, is obviously that the timing of when data gets released isn't something we determine. My hope is that data will be available to report from at least 1 of those studies during this year, though we can't make a firm commitment since, regrettably, that decision isn't ours to make. So I'm glad emavusertib is being tested across a wide range of areas, among them 5 different solid tumor types. And I'm glad it's extremely cost efficient. That said, yes, I feel the same eagerness you do about seeing results from those studies and hope we'll be able to inform you later this year that we can do so.

Yale Jen

analyst
#31

Congrats on all the progress.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#32

Thank you, Yale.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#33

Congratulations on everything you've accomplished. I wanted to ask about — regarding PCNSL, the tirabrutinib results presented at ASCO. I'm interested in hearing your perspective on them. For one thing, the response rate along with median DOR are quite high, 64%, 9.2 months, yet the PFS is somewhat lower at around 3 months compared with historical figures of 5 months. Do you consider that to be a significant drug for opening a second arm with AMR, so that AMR stays relevant in PCNSL perhaps 2 years from now should tirabrutinib gain substantial traction?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#34

Well, thank you, Soumit. To start, I appreciate the question. Indeed, the tirabrutinib data definitely appear quite compelling, and we would anticipate that at some point, it ought to secure approval in the U.S. I mean it seems at a minimum to be the fifth BTK reaching the U.S. market. It seems comparable to, comparable to Acala, comparable to zanubrutinib, comparable to Pruto, it appears to be a next-generation BTK, which ought to provide at a minimum a certain safety benefit and possibly even a benefit in efficacy; and once it finally receives approval, I believe what we would want to do is exactly as we would with any BTK inhibitor or, for that matter, BTK degraders, demonstrate that after you select a means of blocking the BCR pathway, whether that's through tirabrutinib, ibrutinib, the degrader, choose whichever method you prefer, combine emavusertib with it, and that ought to improve the efficacy. That represents our ultimate objective. So yes, we were quite keen to see their data too. We anticipate watching them secure approval in due course. And I would add, just as we examine zanu and Acala and Pruto, our aim would ultimately be to demonstrate that emavusertib is the standard drug that you combine with a BTK regimen.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#35

Are we discussing a distinct study here, since right now you're using ibrutinib, and that's provided the results from those 30 patients make it into the label.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#36

Well, tirabrutinib hasn't received approval. That means testing it alongside tirabrutinib isn't possible. Any BTK inhibitor available commercially could be used by us, yet the overwhelming majority of patients — actually every one of our patients except 2, if I recall correctly — were receiving ibrutinib. One patient, as I remember, came over from the tirabrutinib trial after progressing, and perhaps one other patient was taking Acala. Still, most PCNSL patients across the U.S. and Europe, purely as a matter of fact, receive ibrutinib these days. Now, I believe you'd share my expectation that should tirabrutinib ultimately succeed and secure an initial label in the U.S., that label will cover PCNSL, given that this is the sole study they have underway. My hope is that at that stage, we could have it included in the label. The method for achieving that — perhaps running some kind of supplemental study demonstrating equivalent performance with any BTK inhibitor, tirabrutinib included — is something we'll need to discuss with the FDA after tirabrutinib gains approval. Long term, though, I'd definitely anticipate that this becomes the fifth. Merck has a candidate likely to become the sixth approved; my aim is simply to be able to pair with every one of them.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#37

I've got a question about the triplet in the frontline AML setting. You've finished the 7-day safety portion already, and at ASH, my understanding is that we're looking for safety data from the 14-day and 21-day groups. For these patients, is reenrollment required for them to be part of the efficacy readout, or not?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#38

Yeah, when it comes to the data, I want to choose my words very carefully, honestly, since I've stated that our plan is to submit and present it at ASH. So I'm sorry if that comes across as a bit evasive, but the only thing I'll say is that discussing the possibility of a triplet combination in the frontline setting is something we're genuinely enthusiastic about. In AML, azacitidine and venetoclax are, without question, the standard of care. And I'm simply eager to discuss what we've got that might point to a possible role for emavusertib too, though we'll have to hold off on that until the data becomes public.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#39

Okay, so my understanding is that the upcoming safety data readout will cover only the 14-day and 21-day safety information. Can those very same patients be put into the efficacy portion? Or would you need to recruit new individuals, just so we can get a sense of how straightforward — or how fast — the following enrollment period would be?

Jim Dentzer

executive
#40

Yes. Like I mentioned, I prefer to be extremely cautious regarding what we plan to show and how it will appear, until we're actually in a position to discuss it. So can we hold off and find out if the abstracts are accepted and what sort of presentation we end up with, before I say too much on that subject, if that works for you?

Soumit Roy

analyst
#41

Yes, that makes complete sense.

Jim Dentzer

executive
#42

Thanks, operator, and thanks to all of you for being on today's call. As ever, we're grateful to the patients and families taking part in our clinical trials, to the Curis team for their dedication and effort, and to our partners at Aurigene, the NCI, and the academic community for their continued collaboration and support. We're looking forward to giving you another update before long. Operator?

Operator

operator
#43

Everyone, that brings us to the end of today's call. We appreciate all of you joining us. At this point, you're welcome to hang up.

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