Cytokinetics, Incorporated (CYTK) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 2, 2025

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 39 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

David Lebowitz

analyst
#1

Thanks everybody for coming to the Citi Biopharma Conference. Next on the docket, we have with us Cytokinetics. They had some interesting news today. I'm sure we'll discuss it. Before we jump into that, if you could all just introduce yourselves and give us kind of the brief history of Cytokinetics, and then we'll jump in.

Robert I. Blum

executive
#2

So good afternoon. Thanks to the folks at Citi for inviting us to the conference today. It's a big day for us. So I'm joined by an all-star team of our senior executives. I'm Robert Blum. I'm President and CEO of Cytokinetics. I'll ask them to introduce themselves. I'll maybe for just a few minutes, provide some background and then jump into a presentation that we made and try to do all that in about five minutes so that we leave plenty of time for conversation.

Fady Malik

executive
#3

So I'm Fady Malik. I'm the Head of Research and Development at Cytokinetics and joined the company when we launched in 1998. I'm a physician scientist and cardiologist and lead our both discovery and development efforts.

Sung Lee

executive
#4

I'm Sung Lee. I joined Cytokinetics about 16 months ago as CFO.

Isaac Ciechanover

executive
#5

Hello there. I'm Isaac Ciechanover. I'm the Chief Business Officer, and I also joined around 16 months ago.

Robert I. Blum

executive
#6

So as mentioned, I'll just provide a quick overview, but then I'll jump into a few slides. So Fady and I started this company 27-plus years ago, and over these many years, we've built out a new pharmacology rooted in one biology, and as he is a visionary and physician scientist has led us all along the way. Over the course of these many years, we've built out a portfolio. You'll hear about that more in a minute. And we've added to our team, including, as you see here, Sung and Isaac, who joined us within the last year or so. And I think that reflects the maturity and the evolution of the company. There are many of us who have been with the company for 10, 20 or more years, others who have joined more recently, all fit for purpose as we're seeking now to turn a page on the company as we move from R&D to commercialization over the next several months. So with that as a background, I'll jump into some more detail. I'll be making some forward-looking statements. I'll point you to these slides and also to our SEC filings as it relates to caveats to those statements. We don't undertake an obligation necessarily to update those statements. But I will be talking to you about the company in broad brush strokes. Our mission has always been to mine this area of biology for new medicines. And in particular, as that biology reads on muscle and translating muscle biology into a new muscle pharmacology, in particular, around diseases of cardiovascular and neuromuscular impairment. And as you can see on this slide, our commitment to that science has translated into a pipeline, a pipeline of potential medicines, all of which have been discovered and developed at Cytokinetics and for which we're quite pleased with progress, including progress announced even just this past weekend at the European Society of Cardiology. As I mentioned, our focus has been on muscle biology and in particular, the mechanics or machinery that drives the contractility of muscle and where one particular molecular target, cardiac myosin, a mechanochemical enzyme that translates ATP hydrolysis into mechanical force that drives contractility of muscle. And ours is the first company to industrialize research around the sarcomere, the fundamental unit of muscle contractility that we all probably studied in high school, but for which we now have a pharmacology rooted in myosin modulation inhibitors and an activator of myosin that we believe hold great promise to the build of a specialty cardiology franchise. Lead amongst these compounds is aficamten, a potential next-in-class cardiac myosin inhibitor. It's currently pending FDA review for potential approval in obstructive hypertrophic cardiomyopathy based on a study called SEQUOIA that read out over a year ago. And that study provides, we believe, ample support and evidence for what we hope will be an approval later this year, PDUFA date, December 26. And at the same time, we're pending regulatory review in China and in Europe based also on SEQUOIA. And that informs the leading edge of our pipeline and go-to-market strategy. This past weekend at the European Society of Cardiology, investigators presented results from a second Phase III study called MAPLE, that study was positive, and we believe that could enable a potential label expansion, but not initially will we go to market based on MAPLE instead on SEQUOIA. And as you may have questions, the team here, we can respond to how MAPLE factors into our life cycle management plans. A third study is completed enrollment and will read out in first half of 2026. That's a study called ACACIA. ACACIA is a study of aficamten in patients with nonobstructive HCM. So you begin to understand how aficamten is itself a pipeline in a pill, OHCM followed by nHCM, but for which there are 2 other drug candidates in later-stage development, omecamtiv mecarbil, a cardiac myosin activator, already the subject of over 30 completed clinical trials, including one 8,000-patient study called GALACTIC that was positive and for which we're now doing a second confirmatory study and how that may enable us to extend the franchise to advanced heart failure treated by the same physician group. And then there's another cardiac myosin inhibitor called CK-586. It acts by a different mechanism. It's being developed for the potential treatment of heart failure and preserved ejection fraction. Three drug candidates, molecular target, one strategy oriented towards building an enduring business in specialty cardiology. We have other compounds in earlier clinical development that are depicted on the pipeline. I won't speak to them today. So you begin to see how this all begins to play out in terms of what could be multiple specialty cardiology launches that could be occurring over successive time, starting with SEQUOIA by the end of this year, followed by MAPLE, followed by Acacia, followed by HFrEF, followed by HFpEF. And there, you begin to understand why we think a specialty cardiology business model, the likes of which really don't exist in biopharma, but for which we believe could build uncommon enduring value for patients and shareholders. Over the weekend, I mentioned we presented results from MAPLE, this was -- these are the primary efficacy data as they were presented on Saturday in a late-breaking session simultaneously published in the New England Journal. And what you can see here depicted is patients on aficamten did better by the primary efficacy endpoint of peak VO2. This is a measure of exercise capacity. Patients on the standard of care beta blocker, metoprolol actually did worse. How could that be standard of care? You might ask, this was the first randomized controlled study of a beta blocker in patients with OHCM despite the fact that beta blockers have been a mainstay standard of care in this disease for 60 years. And absent having done a proper study like this, we do believe now that these data are presented and published, they may turn heads and call into question the use of the first-line treatment in this population. And as I think the cardiology community very enthusiastically embraced these data when presented on Saturday. If you're interested, we also convened an IR webinar this morning and the principal investor -- I'm sorry, principal investigator presented again, and those data and that presentation is archived on our website alongside of the publication. Here are the design elements of the ACACIA study that I mentioned. As you may have questions, we'll get into that, I'm sure. ACACIA is due to read out in the first half of next year, as I mentioned. This is really interesting. Nonobstructive HCM represents probably half the population with HCM and where the prevalence would suggest it's growing at a faster rate than obstructive HCM. The first-in-class compound in this category, a compound called mavacamten was recently the subject of a study called ODYSSEY in patients with nHCM. Those data were also presented on Saturday at the same late breaker. Unfortunately, that study was not successful. The study failed to demonstrate an effect on either of the two co-primary endpoints, but with trends that are really quite provocative and for which we believe they may illuminate that aficamten in ACACIA could represent a positive outcome. And as you may have questions about what was presented and why we remain optimistic, Fady can speak to that in our question-and-answer session. So again, we're building a specialty cardiology franchise. You see here how they all fit together. This is a concentrated customer segment base where we believe with roughly 125 sales professionals in each of the United States and Europe, we can get to the high-volume prescribers who treat these advanced populations where there's a very high unmet need. We believe we can build a specialty distribution network and with what we believe to be both payer leverage and differentiation amongst products, we believe we can build a very valuable business for shareholders with all of these products. We have a strong financial position. We recently reported our Q2 earnings over $1 billion, approximately $1 billion in cash. And to the point, given deals we've done, and I do believe Cytokinetics has created a high watermark amongst peer group companies in terms of combining both equity dilutive, but especially leaning into nonequity dilutive capital with partnerships, royalty monetizations and the proper balance of debt, we believe we have access to still additional capital. We have access to $100 million in a loan from Royalty Pharma that we have already qualified for, another $175 million that we may qualify for if aficamten is approved by the end of the year and an additional $150 million that may be available to us for the development of one of our pipeline programs. So these are loans that come with deals we've done with Royalty Pharma and for which we believe the cost of capital is competitive and advantageous to us as we continue to hopefully be good financial engineers much in the same way we've developed our R&D pipeline. And Sung can speak to how we're thinking about not only access to capital, but how we can be efficient with regard to deployment of capital. So with that, as an introduction, I'll turn it back to you for question and answer, and thank you for your interest in Cytokinetics.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#7

Thank you so much for that, and I appreciate the seminar this morning. It was very interesting. I guess to start out, when we look at this space overall, OHCM and nHCM, naturally, people are looking at Camzyos, which is out there, mavacamten, and they're trying to measure that up against the profile of aficamten. Thus far, we can compare them on the actual data in OHCM, which is under the FDA review. But there's also these other emerging data sets with respect to MAPLE and ACACIA coming online, ODYSSEY from there end. How do you see the profiles of these drugs ultimately being compared? I mean there's the REMS program. Yes, there is the data that will be on label, but they also -- all the doctors know that there's other things going on that differentiate them.

Robert I. Blum

executive
#8

Yes. So that's a very good question. There's a lot to unpack. I'm going to turn it over to Fady, but I'll just start by saying, we played a hand in the discovery of mavacamten as it was discovered in a company that incubated within our laboratories before we spun it out as a separate entity. So we know that compound quite well. We understand its positives, but also where there could be opportunities to engineer a next-in-class compound as we did. And aficamten was engineered with certain properties in mind, and we've studied it both preclinically and clinically to elaborate on what could be a differentiated profile. And we do believe the clinical studies that we've conducted in later-stage development, REDWOOD, SEQUOIA, now MAPLE elaborate on its profile. With that, maybe I'll turn it over to Fady to answer your specific question.

Fady Malik

executive
#9

Sure. As we -- as Robert said, and we work to discover aficamten, we had a particular profile in mind. We wanted a drug that could be titrated easily, drug that was reversible if you -- like with any drug you titrate to effect, you wanted to be able to down titrate simply, drug that's devoid of significant drug-drug interactions that complicate its use and ultimately, then to take those properties, including a shallow PK/PD relationship and develop a best-in-class data package for them. And so through the conduct of our Phase II trial, REDWOOD, followed by SEQUOIA, which is now followed by MAPLE in obstructive HCM, we think that the safety profile of aficamten is exemplary with showing essentially that titration works and titrate the drug as needed. You don't have to interrupt treatment. You can down titrate the drug if necessary, patients respond to down titration. We haven't observed heart failure events, significant heart failure events as a consequence of use of aficamten. And now as was presented at the ESC in addition to MAPLE was some very long-term follow-up data in our open-label extension. So those -- those attributes have -- that we intentionally designed in aficamten now are manifesting themselves in our development program. And ultimately, we hope that leads to a label and practical everyday experience in using aficamten that make it something that physicians want to choose.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#10

Understanding your REMS program is still in the works, and we don't have a submission. Where do you see given the recent changes that happened on Bristol's and as potential areas of differentiation for your program?

Fady Malik

executive
#11

Yes. I think the properties, again, the way that we have employed aficamten in our clinical trials, we hope would be reflected in the label as well as REMS. So titration would occur on a more frequent schedule, so patients could potentially get to target dose within 6 to 8 weeks if they so choose, perhaps maybe longer than that if they decide to go more slowly. If they don't have to worry about significant drug-drug interaction effects, that's another aspect of REMS that physicians might be educated on the label, but patients don't have to, every month, kind of go through their medication list with a pharmacist because there aren't as many or meaningful clinically significant drug interactions. All of these things, I think, help, if you will, differentiate a potential REMS from another. And the REMS are reflective of your label. And so -- and the label is reflective of the use of the drug in the clinical trials as well as obviously, the data that you generate with them. And so I think if you look at our clinical data, they support a meaningfully differentiated REMS down the road.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#12

In terms of once it's approved and launches, what's the lift in getting into the new-to-therapy patients versus potentially getting some switches. It strikes me that certainly given some changes regarding for Camzyos, a switch is a higher lift, a much heavier lift than would be new patients -- new to therapy. And towards that end, how penetrated is the market at this point?

Robert I. Blum

executive
#13

Yes. So BMS is doing a nice job educating and building market awareness for the category of cardiac myosin inhibitors. They're adding about 1,500, 1,600 patients per quarter, and they're going to do north of $1 billion worldwide in sales this year, but for which in the United States, there's still about 650 physicians who are accounting for over 80% of the prescriptions, and it's incumbent upon us to work to grow the category and to hopefully have preferential share of category, but to ensure that more physicians are comfortable prescribing a cardiac myosin inhibitor for their patients. Right now, we believe they've penetrated about 15% of the symptomatic diagnosed population and where there's even more who are undiagnosed and perhaps going to be available ultimately for treatment, and that's in the United States. So we believe that a next-in-class opportunity if aficamten were to be approved, could be opening the aperture on the market in ways that the differentiation could drive wider adoption. Cardiology launches generally take longer. There's both that period under which you have to go from free drug to revenue-producing drug, but also just adoption takes longer, but they have long tails as well. And we do believe that there's quite substantial TAM here and enduring value that could make this one of the leading cardiovascular categories. And it's important that Cytokinetics when we go to market, we're not seeking to compete with BMS. That would be perhaps bringing us both down, but rather as could be enabling of more patients to benefit from this innovation. So while there may be some switches, and we're hearing that there are high-volume prescribers who are intending to switch their patients, that's not going to be core to our strategy. Rather instead, what's core to our strategy is building on the momentum and speaking to the integrity of our data, our science and its implication for patients with OHCM.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#14

On the question of the high-volume prescribers, because of the burdensome REMS program, has there been kind of a conglomerate of people who will just pass the patients on because they don't want to deal with the program towards these high-frequency prescribers? And can a drug that gets kind of has a more simple or easier program push beyond that group?

Robert I. Blum

executive
#15

Yes. So we've been out in the field, if you will, for a couple of years seeking to answer that question. And I think we've got a lock on it. We understand referral patterns very well locally, metro area by metro area. And we understand how they translate to payers. We have had 15 area business managers and many MSL's deployed for a long time readying for our commercial launch. We believe we understand it well enough to know this that right now, a lot of community-based cardiologists are choosing to refer patients to centers of excellence, but reluctantly. And that if there is a potential new medicine that could be available with a less burdensome REMS that they may be more likely interested in prescribing themselves. And we believe we can activate them if aficamten is approved with the differentiated label that we expect of it. So our strategy will be to focus to centers of excellence and also where there may be low-lying fruit in the peripheral community of cardiologists who also see a lot of HCM patients. And our intention is to be focused to where we can influence both those high-volume prescribers who have themselves already been warehousing patients awaiting the potential of aficamten and as they've told us, and at the same time, grow the category beyond where currently cardiologists are comfortable prescribing.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#16

So you presented details of MAPLE this past weekend, and the data was very, very strong. It was clearly superior. How does that translate ultimately into a market opportunity? Is it -- how difficult is it going to be to move into the first line? How should we think about that when we're building our models? And secondly, do you see as there being a benefit just from optics perspective of eventually having on label that might help after beta blockers, even though the trial is for frontline?

Robert I. Blum

executive
#17

So the question you just asked, I asked that of many opinion leader cardiologists over the weekend. And where I do believe for the fact that beta blockers are a mainstay standard of care and they're cheap, that it's not going to be overnight that we see practice changing. But to my surprise, many cardiologists indicated that when they get back to their offices today, they will be looking at certain patients differently than they would have last week for knowing these data and that the time that they may remain on beta blockers could be shortened. At the end of the day, this ultimately has to factor into guidelines. And to be clear, we won't be promoting MAPLE data upon launch. It won't be in our label. We will be compliant to label, but for which we could imagine that there may be some physicians who are more likely going to be looking more skeptically or critically at beta blockers. And ultimately, this will take some time, but I do think it could be enabling of aficamten to become a first-line therapy for these patients. Fady, I think, has a better insight into this, and maybe he should also comment.

Fady Malik

executive
#18

Yes. Obviously, beta blockers have been entrenched for decades and people have a lot of comfort with using them. If our data weren't so compelling, it would be, I think, a long road to displace them. But the fact that aficamten was better than metoprolol was not surprising to me. It was -- I expected that to be the case. But what was, I think, surprising to the physician community was how ineffective metoprolol was. And obviously, that should cause one to question its use. Now remember, these things can always be tried and one can switch from one to the other. But I think the data over time, as they get incorporated in time lines, as physician practice begins to evolve, you'll begin to see not in year 1, year 2, but out in the outlying years, you'll begin to see a greater proportion of physicians that decide to go straight to CMI's. Payer practices will probably evolve over time to support that as well. So this is a trend that's been seen not once but many times before a medical practice where the newer therapy displaces something that maybe has been entrenched for quite some time.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#19

It's very interesting. I'd be curious to see how that ultimately evolves. If we move on now to nonobstructive and obviously, Acacia is going on, and there is data presented today with respect to Camzyos from ODYSSEY or presented this past weekend. Could you run us through what your takeaways from that data is? And what are the deltas that -- from the Camzyos experience that could be different for you because they came close, they just were a little short.

Fady Malik

executive
#20

Yes. No, absolutely. We were pleasantly surprised to see that there were positive trends on their endpoints. and that the underlying data, the rationale for using the drug in nHCM was also positively impacted. It reduced NT-proBNP, which presumably reflects improved healing pressures. It reduced or improved diastolic function and the relaxation of the heart. And then you saw peak VO2 move in the right direction. You saw KCCQ, their other primary endpoint move in the right direction. That one was confounded by an unusually large placebo effect that is not typically observed to that magnitude with KCCQ. And -- but what was clearly evident is that the way that the drug was dosed confounded the interpretation of the results. So they had upwards of 25% of patients that had to interrupt treatment at some point during study. Some of those went on a discontinued treatment permanently. We had patients that developed heart failure as a result of some of the EF excursions. Obviously, that impacts patients' assessment of their health status as well as their exercise performance. And there were doses that were utilized that haven't been studied before for their effectiveness like 1 milligrams or 2.5 milligrams. And so what we put together with that is that perhaps there was a dilution of the treatment effect. And we'll have to wait and see if they publish an on-treatment analysis that excludes patients whose treatment were interrupted. But they indicated as much as that they were planning to do so, and you would think that if that was the case, there's probably something there. Aficamten, we've -- in our Phase II and open-label extension experience, we've been able to dose aficamten with an EF-guided algorithm that has been well tolerated, hasn't led to discontinuations of treatment or treatment interruptions or severe heart failure events. In the background of that, we've seen improvements in diastolic function. We've seen improvements in NT-proBNP even to a larger extent than they observed. And so I think at least the fundamental basis for believing that this drug should work in nHCM is still intact and perhaps something that is less prone to confounding will help us get to the right answer.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#21

And obviously, we'll find that out not too far from now. So getting back kind of to a question I had asked earlier. Now if you're a doctor out there and you're prescribing and you're trying to compare the two data sets that are on label, which is always fraught with difficulties and it gets noisy. But you have a label that one of the therapies has MAPLE on it and does have nonobstructive, assuming the trial works out. What does that mean for the on-label indication right now that eventually it can turn out there? Does that mean that the profile of aficamten in the head-to-head indication right now is actually improved? Or do you think doctors will view them all as completely separate indications?

Fady Malik

executive
#22

Well, I think the -- I mean, that remains to be seen, but you invest a lot of time learning how to use a particular drug. And if you can use one for everything, and there's no reason to necessarily pick the other because it's superior in some aspect. I think the rational thing is that people will simplify their practice of medicine and kind of focus on the one that has the most uses. So Acacia could provide a, if you will, rationale for focusing on the use of aficamten if Acacia were positive. And I think physician practice ultimately might reflect that.

Robert I. Blum

executive
#23

I think there's two ways to answer your question. And it's -- does the properties of the molecule lend itself to the potential approval across different indications? Or do the indications ultimately drive the use of the molecule? And I think they're, in some ways, one of the same. This is a bit of a reciprocal. So we've designed and engineered into aficamten certain properties that may lend it able to be studied in such a way that it could translate to positive outcomes in OHCM and nHCM. That was the intention. And I believe enabling of flexible dosing, flatter PK/PD relationships and the opportunity to achieve greater dose density is hopefully going to be serving us well not only in OHCM but also in nHCM.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#24

So we've got five minutes left here. What do you think we should -- we could talk about a lot of things we could talk about what your marketing effort will look like or if you want to move into omecamtiv, what do you think that the Street is not paying attention to that we should be?

Robert I. Blum

executive
#25

So maybe I'll answer that real quick, but I also want to make sure that we get a chance for you to learn a little bit more about how we're thinking from a corporate development and a finance standpoint because I think those things matter also to ultimately inform the full picture of Cytokinetics. To your question, omecamtiv mecarbil is the subject of a study called COMET, which is designed to confirm what we've already seen in GALACTIC. In GALACTIC, 4,000 approximately patients were enrolled in each of two arms. And this was a study of a broader, more heterogeneous group of heart failure patients with ejection fractions below 40, and we saw a statistically significant effect on death and readmission. But admittedly, it was a more modest effect. But in the more advanced patients with EF below 30, it was more than double. So FDA and EMA have asked us to now go back and do a smaller study just in that population, confirm the effects. And if COMET is positive, which we have every reason to believe it can be, that could be really meaningful for patients who right now don't have a good treatment for the more severe forms of heart failure. So in effect, we're doing a 2,000-patient study to replicate something we've already seen in an 8,000-patient study, of which 4,000 of those patients match up to the inclusion criteria in the 2,000-patient study. So we hope this is going to be like being on the 5-yard line first in goal and an opportunity to bring this forward to the end zone for patients and shareholders. So that study, COMET is already enrolling. Hopefully, it completes enrollment next year and would be another pillar in our franchise development strategy.

Isaac Ciechanover

executive
#26

Sure. So we think about business development from two perspectives. Our primary focus is obviously the launch of aficamten and making sure that patients everywhere in the world get access to it. So as you know, late last year, we did a deal in Japan. We have a partner in China with Sanofi, Bayer in Japan. There's still the rest of world territories. We are obviously building our own franchise in Europe. But there's been considerable interest in being able to work with us in those territories. So that's something that is of great focus to aficamten. Separate to that, there's in-house expertise, as you can imagine, both from a biology perspective, chemistry in muscle diseases in general, not just cardiac, and we are going to leverage that. From a business development perspective, we look at multiple programs, both preclinical as well as clinical to augment our pipeline. We'll do that in a cost-effective way, but we really are in a unique situation to bring best of breed. We did a deal last year from an equity perspective with Imbria, where we think that is a very unique molecule. We continue to do that across the board, and that's something that you should pay attention to and expect from us.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#27

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Isaac Ciechanover

executive
#28

Sure. So obviously, in building a cardiovascular franchise, we want to make sure that whatever we do, we could use -- we can leverage our sales force. I will say that our focus has been on small molecules. We look to expand outside of small molecules into other modalities, but ones that are already well established, and so skeletal muscle and cardiac are probably the primary focus for us.

Robert I. Blum

executive
#29

None of this happens without a strong balance sheet and good financial discipline. So maybe Sung could speak to sort of how we're approaching those matters.

Sung Lee

executive
#30

Sure. Happy to. And just to reiterate what Robert said, we ended quarter 2 with a very solid balance sheet position with $1 billion in cash and investments. Of course, this was made possible through the financings that we did about a year ago. partly equity, but also partly nonequity provided by Royalty Pharma. I also want to focus you on the capital that lies ahead of us in addition to the $1 billion in cash and investments already on our books. So as Robert mentioned, we're eligible to take down $100 million loan from Royalty Pharma this year. We've already qualified for that. We could further become eligible for an additional $175 million should aficamten be approved this year in the U.S. So those will be very two important levers for us in terms of adding capital to our balance sheet. Also, we have pipeline funding. Should CK-586 move into a pivotal study, Royalty Pharma has the option to opt in up to $150 million. So that could be potentially an important source of capital to further advance our pipeline.

David Lebowitz

analyst
#31

Excellent. I think we've run up to the end of our time. Thank you so much. Always great and look forward to seeing you again soon.

Robert I. Blum

executive
#32

Thanks very much. Appreciate it.

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