Dampskibsselskabet Norden A/S (DNORD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 1, 2025

Nasdaq Copenhagen DK Industrials Marine Transportation earnings 11 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Hello, and welcome to the Norden Q1 2025 Analyst and Investor Conference Call. My name is Harry, and I'll be your operator today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Norden CEO, Jan Rindbo. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Jan Rindbo

executive
#2

Thank you very much. Let me start by pointing out some of the highlights from the first quarter of 2025. We delivered a group net profit of $33 million and a return on invested capital of 11%, and that was driven primarily by good coverage in weaker markets. We've also seen improved financial performance that was driven by a margin recovery in the Dry Operator segment in Freight Services & Trading. We, last week, upgraded the full year net profit guidance to a range of $50 million to $130 million. NAV, at the end of the quarter, stood at DKK 372 per share, and we are focusing on realizing net asset values by selling 9 vessels in the quarter, and out of that, 3 were from declared purchase options. We are paying out an interim dividend and a share buyback program in total of $17 million, which is accruing to 52% of the net profit for the first quarter of 2025 and that is through a dividend of DKK 2 per share and a new share buyback program of $7 million. I will now turn over to CFO, Martin Badsted. Please turn to the next slide.

Martin Badsted

executive
#3

Thank you very much, Jan. Before diving into the -- some of the details of our segments, let me just point your attention to the fact that in our report, we have added a new segment information and operating EBITDA figures where we adjust for IFRS 16. This is on the back of requests from both the analysts and the investors, and we hope really that this will add to the transparency and ease of reading of our reports going forward. On that basis, our EBITDA in Freight Services & Trading unit was $3.3 million compared to a loss of $27 million in the same period of last year. And breaking that down into the new 4 segments that we report under FST, you can see the numbers at the bottom right-hand side in the gray area of the slide. And you will see the Dry Operator made a positive EBITDA of $2.1 million. Projects & Parcelling continue to do -- deliver profitable growth with $2.3 million. Tanker operator was somewhat down as expected since it's very dependent on the market levels that were weaker in this quarter. And Logistics did book a small loss, but much improved compared to the same period of last year. Please turn to Slide #4. Our Asset Management division continued to deliver good results with a contribution margin that increased to $48 million versus $42 million last year. EBITDA did actually decline, but that was, to a large extent, explained by last year being impacted by gains from vessel sales, which was lower in this year. And at the end of Q1, Norden had a total of 66,000 extension option days and 81 purchase options. Of those, more than half can actually be declared within the next 2 years and strike prices that are, on average, 15% below current broker values. So there's still a lot of good value in our purchase options. And actually, even though we have declared a number of purchase options recently, we continue to also build the portfolio for the future. So actually, we still have the same number of purchase options that we had at year-end 2024. Now to Slide #5. So our earnings were delivered against the backdrop of fairly weak markets, but we were actually quite well positioned for that. It was a quarter marked by political developments and geopolitical uncertainty. And especially worth mentioning is the U.S. trade representative proposed port fees on Chinese-built vessels entering U.S. ports. There was a new draft coming up a couple of days ago, which actually was a significantly watered down version of the original proposal. Then today, actually, a new proposal has then been set forward, so this just shows you how volatile the situation is. But basically compared to where this started a couple of weeks ago, the versions that are being circulated are something that we think Norden's flexible business model can handle with limited cost. Then there's the tariffs that were first announced at the beginning of April and later put on hold for at least half of them. I would say that there are limited impact on our markets directly from the U.S. tariffs, but we do see a lot of uncertainty and investment postponements, adding to the risk that the global economic outlook is actually weakening as we speak. We think we are quite well positioned to capture opportunities in weaker markets in the short term. We have a strong balance sheet with limited bank debt. And we do actually believe that the long-term outlook is structurally quite attractive, and we are positioned for that, as you can see in the bottom graph on the right-hand side. Actually, in the short term, you will see that at end of April, we had more open tanker days than we did in dry cargo, and in tankers, of course, we are long, that's 5,700 open days, whereas in dry cargo, we are short 3,900 vessel days for 2025. And with that, turn to Slide #6, please, and back to Jan.

Jan Rindbo

executive
#4

Thank you, Martin. On this slide, we just like to highlight the diversity of our business model, where we both have owner and operator activities, and we are active across tankers and dry cargo and that flexibility enables superior returns over time. And for example, it's the ability to adjust exposure on several different parameters that helps us to navigate market volatility. At the moment, we have mainly exposure to the product tanker market for the rest of the year. But longer term, we are more exposed to the dry cargo market. This strong -- enables strong value creation through the cycle in the shipping market. And as you can see in the graph on the right-hand side, with the value creation over time, we can deliver best-in-class return on invested capital over time. Our ambition is to generate a high degree of stability in earnings and protect the downside risk while also embracing the volatility to capture the potential high markets that we also see. Please turn to Slide #7 for guidance. On the back of increased gains from the sale of vessels and good operational performance, we have upgraded the full year guidance on April 25 to a range of between $50 million and $130 million. This includes sales gains from already agreed transactions of $45 million. In the Freight Services & Trading units, we expect margins to improve compared to 2024. And in the Asset management part of the business, we expect to continue to benefit from high earnings coverage in both dry cargo and tankers at profitable levels. Please turn to Slide 8. And let me just finish here with the key takeaways from the first quarter. It was a solid first quarter with a group net profit of $33 million, an 11% return on invested capital. We are well positioned for weaker markets in the short term, while we are maintaining deferred exposure in markets where we believe there are some strong long-term fundamentals, especially supported on the supply side. We continue to benefit from our flexible business model and have great upside from our portfolio of purchase options. We have, over time, delivered best-in-class return on invested capital and return to shareholders through our flexible business model. And the current share price indicates a large upside to net asset values. So with that, we can turn over to the Q&A session.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] With that, we have no questions on the line at this time. So I would now like to hand back to Norden management for closing remarks.

Jan Rindbo

executive
#6

All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank you for your attention, and have a good day. Thank you, and goodbye.

Operator

operator
#7

Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines.

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