Dentalcorp Holdings Ltd. (DNTL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 30, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
David Newman
analystHi. It's David Newman from Desjardins, and I'm the diversified industries analyst. And today, we have dentalcorp, the first up in our first time at our conference, led by Graham Rosenberg, CEO and Chairman. While we do not currently cover the stock, we find it extremely interesting. I'll let Graham tell you about his business. So I won't give you my paraphrase version of it. But welcome, Graham. Thank you for joining us. I will hand over to you to kick out some opening comments, and then we'll jump into a fireside chat, unless you have some opening comments you wanted to dig into?
Graham Rosenberg
executiveNo, other than to say thank you very much for hosting us. I'm excited to be here. We're looking forward to chatting about our story. Just by way of background, dentalcorp is the largest provider of essential cash-pay consumer health care in Canada. We have a vision to be the most trusted health care network in the Canadian market. We have a high-growth platform with clear competitive modes. We've driven double-digit growth every year in our history, and that continues this year as well on a quarter-over-quarter and year-to-date basis. with the sector leader in dental, which is an $18 billion industry, growing at about 2% a year. It's a highly recurring nondiscretionary staple in health care, about the 87% plus of Canadians with events at least once a year. Our growth is driven by reputable acquisition program, which drives really attractive economics at scale adding -- we had about $40 million of EBITDA per annum, which equates to around $200 million of revenue and drive 15% plus returns on invested capital. So we're not so focused on multiples, but we're more focused on can we drive mid- to high double-digit returns on our invested capital on an unlevered basis. And we have proprietary technologies and playbooks, which we'll talk about through the presentation, hopefully and through our charts, which drive attractive organic growth at the revenue level of 3.5% to 4.5% plus and a consequential drop through to the EBITDA level on a same-store basis. So we're really excited to be here, and I look forward to chatting more, David.
David Newman
analystExcellent. Thanks, Graham. So just digging right into the performance today, the IPO was up $14. The stock has appreciated despite the significant sell-off in the health care industry in general. So you've held in really, really well. You're now, I think, on a trailing basis, over $1 billion in revenue and $211 million in trailing 12-month EBITDA. So maybe just give us your report card and the outlook right now. And I think you've got 445 practices as of the end of the Q.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveThat's correct. So I would be remiss as a health care to say that my stock is fairly valued. We don't think it is. So yes, we're up, and we feel good about that, but not good enough yet. What we're really proud of is the value drivers that drive value in this business which include acquisitive growth and margin expansion, all tick the box despite a very challenging environment, including into Q3, with continued regulatory restrictions across the board pretty much in all of our provinces, which have about a 10% impact on the hygiene side of our business, which is a recurring higher margin side of the business, which is about 30% of our business overall. So despite all of that, we've had strong sequential growth in our quarters since being public. We've driven strong same-store growth over 2020, 3.5% plus in Q3 and positive over 2019, a lot of that underpinned by our insourcing agenda, where we look to provide not only gone up price and volume increases in patient business, but also underpinned by our insourcing agenda, whereby we work with our practices, 99% -- 92% to 93% plus of which are general petitioner practices to provide more and offer more services to their patients, again underpinned by patient demand for one-stop shop. Through to the end of Q3, our acquisitive growth agenda has been ahead of expectations. Our margin expansion through really aggressive cost management and our ability to scale our corporate infrastructure has to take the box ahead of expectations. And overall, we're in line with revenue and ahead in the EBITDA margins. So we feel really good about the control we have over our business in a challenging environment and our ability to continue to drive growth with strong results coming out of Q3 and into Q4.
David Newman
analystIt's very rare in this country that we have these quality compounders that could be in the same bucket. Thinking about it around 200 practices of not mistaken since we're on April 2018 and 15 in most recent quarter. And yet, you still only have 3% of the market, and that's extremely fragmented. Maybe just talk about what you're seeing out there in terms of opportunities and what you're paying or multiples creeping up, just kind of the dynamics of the M&A market.
Graham Rosenberg
executivePerfect. So I'll frame it up to you by saying that the market is an $18 billion market. There's about 14,500 practices across the country, ranging from sole practitioners to multi-providers. We have multiple dentists in all of our practices at least 2 or more coupled with hygienist to support that recurring revenue stream. The market grows at about 2% per annum. We believe we can double our EBITDA and our share over the next 4 years and change. We have a very strong acquisitive growth agenda. We have roughly -- as we sit to then, we look at our pipeline, 140 plus deals in advanced stages of negotiation, and that includes multiple location deals, not only 1 or 2 locations. When we look at multiples, multiples for our single and maybe 2 to 3 location practices have been fairly consistent over the last 3 years in the high 7s, low 8s, as multiple of EBITDA. We will immediately increase that EBITDA by about 10% to 15% through cost reductions on the supply side, labor efficiencies driven by our technology stack and revenue growth in year 1 through our in-sourcing agenda. So we feel good. And we always relate back to can we drive sustained 15% plus returns on invested capital on an unlevered basis. And larger acquisitions, and there's a lot of platforms out there. We think there's about 80 to 100 platforms with 3 to 5 plus locations in them. We like those. We can garner some real cost savings and efficiencies by acquiring them in because we can get rid of the small layer of management that they've put in place and those come at higher multiples, sometimes high single digits, low double digits. And so more and more of those are coming to the table. We have a very robust pipeline, like I said, 140-plus deals in advanced stages of discussions. We had a very strong Q3. And our pipeline has never been stronger, so we feel good about that. And again, it's all about -- it depends on investing capital driven by cost management, cost savings and growth.
David Newman
analystGo ahead, go ahead, Graham.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveNo, go ahead.
David Newman
analystAre you seeing the PE firms have obviously with the 123 dentists and Ultima and guys like that, any change in the competitive landscape? And when a dentist sells to you, what are the factors that they consider in selling to you?
Graham Rosenberg
executiveRight. So few ways to skin the cat there. So let me say that these businesses either didn't exist or weren't very active until we shot up 10 years ago. We believe we came to the market with it, and we've always been private equity owned. That's we were -- me and a few friends and family owned the business when I started in 2011 and then in 2014, we did our first private equity deal with 2 Canadian private equity firms. And then in 2018, we partnered with L Catterton out of the U.S. So I don't look at much about private equity. I say that we have a better model for dentists looking to join our business, and I'll tell you why a little bit later. We have real rigor around the structural integrity of our acquisition program. We've had the same acquisition program with the same structure and the same key features around alignment of interest on the growth of the practices after we acquire them. The preferred return that we get out of the practices when we're acquiring some downside protection built into the structure and the alignment of interest at the dentalcorp through the issuance of equity. We've never wavered from that for 10 years. Some of the other players will do whatever they can to get a deal done. We believe that, that structural integrity really favors investors and the stakeholders in our business because it has consistency. Can't just know what they're getting. We keep it really simple. And it also leads to our ability to drive an automated integration process. Our whole integration process is digitally driven. We can do as much as $10 million to $20 million of acquired EBITDA in the quarter if we had to. And our breadth of relationships and the business development team that we've built out over the last 4 to 5 years, which is about 12 people strong from [indiscernible] where we really build relationships with dentists, and it's a true partnership. We don't just find practices off for sale. So obviously, being public gives us a liquid stock. So when we do issue that equity in dentalcorp to create that alignment of interest, we have a liquid currency and we issued that on all deals to drive alignment at the dentalcorp level, what we think actual the cost of capital certainly does support a more aggressive acquisitive growth agenda and gives better incremental returns on investing capital to our investors.
David Newman
analystExcellent. Now switching gears over organic growth in orthodontics. You've been well recognized through acquisition efforts, but you've also done an excellent job of driving organic growth. And I'm thinking pricing, volume mix and also orthodontics, implants, technology in Loblaw -- or we can talk about Loblaw in a second, but maybe just talk about organic growth as it relates to your orthodontics on what you're doing there and maybe what stage you are in terms of the rollout overall and all that.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveDefinitely. Thank you. So we've averaged around 3.5% organic growth, including same-store comps in our history. And all of that has come through from a combination of price and volume. But what we've done is begin to drive what we call an in-sourcing agenda. And we're starting to see real value come out of that and real growth come out of that. And it really starts with the demand side of things where the patients are increasingly looking for a one-stop shop. They're becoming increasingly sophisticated around customer service and a real digital journey through the piece, including at their dental practice. And there are a few trends that are playing into this in-sourcing agenda. One is on the orthodontic side, where we've started with a very robust program. We implemented it in about 30% of our practices over the last 15 months. We're running at around $30 million of incremental revenue just from those 30% of practices, and we expect the remaining practices to be implemented over the next 24 months and change. What's really driving that is on the patient side, a demand for more cosmetic services, folks in their late teens and adults as well historically didn't want to have wire and brackets in their mouth but the advent of [indiscernible] therapies, that's created a real demand on the patient side. And on the supply side, that technology is relatively simple to use, certainly when compared to wire and brackets, which requires a lot more art than science from the orthodontists. And so these GPs, these general practitioner dentists, are able to add those to their cohorts of service offerings to patients. And so again, with the proper training agendas, which ramp in place, the proper rollout agenda, which we have in place and our technology, which we've invested in all of our practices, this cohort of 30% of our practice is already running at around $30 million a year. On a run rate basis, we think we can get to $30 million just from those to add another $100 million from the remaining 70% of our practices over the next 24 to 36 months. We feel really good about that. At the same time, implants is another big area of growth for us, which we're starting to invest in playbooks again, to drive growth in our active business similar type of all at orthodontics. A little more complicated on the supply side, a little bit more surgical in nature but with an aging population looking to replace the potentiation with permanency, not vectors, we see a wonderful opportunity for implants to play an important in our growth going forward.
David Newman
analystWhat's the cost that you incur in terms of setting a practice for ortho?
Graham Rosenberg
executiveLook, we have a training and development team as part of our Institute. We've created our own institute for DC Institute, and DC Institute is a continuing education platform, which we provide both in-person and digital considering education, all of our actions across the country of about 1,300 dentists across the country. We're also supporting the training agenda for in-sourcing of orthodontics, along with our central operations folks. And so we've been able to scale that without much incremental costs. We've made the technology investments. And so it's all very scalable from here on in.
David Newman
analystSo massive contribution margin here on the back of this.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveYes, we figure about 35% to 40% where we orthodontic dollar average case is about $5,500, which is paid over 18 months, which is the average life of the treatment.
David Newman
analystYes, perfect. Okay. And then switching gears over to the Loblaw partnership, very exciting. I want to dig a little deeper into it. You're going to be exclusive dental provider on the PC health app. And so just a few questions on that. What's the potential reach of this partnership? And I think -- I think Loblaw expects to have over 1 million users on the platform by next year on the back of this. So maybe just talk about the penetration on that and how excited you are about the rollout.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveSo really excited about the rollout, really proves to have been chosen by Loblaw as their partner of choice for dental. Obviously, dental behind drugs is the next largest spend of private pay health care even though drugs has some government paying it as well. Pharmacies that is not other kinds of drugs, not talking cannabis alike. So really excited. And they chose us for a few reasons. One is we're the only national provider of dental services in Canada. We have practices from [indiscernible] every province and a few territories as well. We have a location within 20 kilometers of 75% of Canadian populations. We really have tremendous reach. And so they chose us not only because of those facets of our business and our scale, but also our brand equity and our brand reputation across the country, both with dentists, regulators and the board potential community alike. So we feel really good that it is a testament to the business that we've built and the brand equity that we've built over the last 10 years. Really excited to be on the platform. What allows us to be on the platform and actually realize on the opportunity, which today is not quantifiable. And we will commence late this quarter, early next quarter with the first phase of implementation where you'll be able to go on to please help them find a dentist near you. Better technology backbone, our technology stack, which underpins our hellodent platform, which is a patient acquisition portal, our technology stack, which allows us to just book from online on hellodent straight into general practice, our peoples' next appointments. That technology stack, which really sets us apart from individual practices and other aggregators is what's attractive to Loblaws and allowed us to actually influence and get this partnership off the ground. So we're really excited about it. Truly to make a call on data, but we certainly believe it will be additive, not only to our patient acquisition agenda, but also to our visits on a per patient basis.
David Newman
analystExcellent. That's a nice segue into my next question. You are armed to the teeth, pardon the pun, with your suite of technology with hellodent, your patient acquisition platform, DC Engage, your customer engagement platform. Maybe just talk about your technology road map. I know you use partners and things like that. And what other functionality you think you could add to hellodent to make it even more robust.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveSo we've decided that instead of just renting technology for the most part, other than really large stuff like Workday and Netsuite and so on. We want to truly partner in a holistic way with providers of technology that are going to drive our patient agenda, both in terms of our patient acquisition, driving those recurring visits and with our scale now keeping patients inside the network. And so we made an investment in a company called Care Crew. I can't remember what percentage we earn of it, but we just sit on the board, so we have some influence over that pet vehicle, and that is the technology that underpins what we call branded DC Engage. DC Engage is a software that sits inside of our practices. So when a practice comes on board, part of the integration process is to implement DC Engage. It drives the back office administration of patients. So it uses algorithms and automation to drive better recurring visits with our patients, getting them to come back more often, making sure that they're reminded of their appointments, minimizes cancellations, which allows us to optimize our schedules and increases our business per patient from about 2.3 to 2.4 to 2.5x a year, which is really value add when you look at the fact that we have 1.6 million...
David Newman
analystAnd it reduces your admin cost as well.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveIt reduces our admin costs over time. We see more and more automation. And what that results in is it may not actually reduce admin costs in a significant way as it increases patient engagement. So instead of showing up in the dental office where you don't want to be in the first place, let's all be honest here, and having a receptionist or a front office person sitting on the phone, not good, but having them be able to engage with you while the practice runs in the background leveraging technology is a huge advantage for us. And so we have this in about 2/3 of our practices so far, and we'll be in 100% of our practices over the next 24 months as well. What we're looking to do with hellodent, Hellodent was originally established in COVID. We're seeing about $5 million to $10 million plus of incremental revenue come through that in terms of bookings. It allows people to search for a dentist near them in a very holistic way. Our practices come up, you can book online. And what it has allowed us to do as well is we're marketing it inside of our networks. So 10% of patients of Canadians move every year. That includes our patients. Patients go to the dentist close to where they work or live. If you have moved, we're preempting our patients now to say, hey, if you're going to be moving, let us know, we have a like Monday dentist with the same technology, the same playbooks for growth, the same services near wherever you may be going across the country. We're actually seeing our retention rates to increase, which lowers our cost to acquire, lowers our required marketing spend to maintain a flat patient base, but also creates consistency and our scale also allows us to drive more labor efficiencies, again leveraging technology. And so when we talk about hellodent, what are we trying to do here? In terms of advancing hellodent, it's just increase in patient engagement on hellodent, leveraging those virtual capabilities as able to offer somebody and show them before and afters of what an implant may look like, what an orthodontic treatment may look like and increase throughput of conversions. And that's where we're going to focus over the next couple of quarters. You'll probably see a new version of hellodent with a significant face lift over the next, I'd say, 6 months. So really that is we continue to renew and improve everything that we have to offer our patients to optimize their patient journey.
David Newman
analystSo you -- can you do like triaging, speaking with an orthodontist, perhaps like is there lots of things you can do in the virtual world. And then you can have data analytics that you can actually obviously have there as well.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveYes. Look, the data analytics piece runs in the background. Our technology stack really allows us to leverage and optimize a lot of data. We have a lot of data signs between all that technology stacks on patients, patient management programs that we're able to leverage to continue to enhance and drive more volume of visits and obviously, more margins. When it comes to virtual dentistry, certainly offering services and showing before and after, things like that, a little bit of triage but not much. One of the things we like for dentistry is that it's not subject to disintermediation by technology. And most of our shipment is going to come from attending a dental office.
David Newman
analystMaybe just talk switching gears a little bit just on COVID and just kind of the impacts that had positive or negative on your business, kind of a quick sound by as to how things are recovering, how things are looking and all that.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveYes. So in the middle of the pandemic or at the beginning of the pandemic, I'd say, around late March of 2020, we were shut down to only be able to provide these services. It basically reduced our revenues by 95% of where we were confident going into it and versus 2019. But by the end of June, when we were able to resume operations, we bounced back really nicely to at or above pre-COVID levels as we settled through some demand through the balance of 2020 going into 2021. We're comping really nicely over 2020, obviously, but also positive over 2019. So we feel really good about what our team has been able to do and what has 7,000 staff names and team members across the country being able to do to get those practices back up on running. Maybe patients feel comfortable coming back to the dentists. And it really speaks to the resiliency of dentistry. Dentistry has grown of -- every of last 30 years, including through a very difficult economic cycles, has demonstrated really tremendous resiliency to recessions and the like and kind of grows the ultimate test. It really proves the resilience of the business. So we're very excited about that.
David Newman
analystWell, it's like vaccine uptake is same as dentistry uptake, Canadians are just a little bit more health aware, I guess, than anything. Just maybe -- I think we've got to close out here, but I wanted to give you an opportunity to kind of sort of talk about the key takeaways investors should have both dentalcorp and kind of the elevator pitch.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveDefinitely. I appreciate that. So we're the clear market leader with the only national platform and an $18 billion industry. Dentistry is a highly recurring service. It's nondiscretionary. It's cash payer time or service and it's into economic cycles and disinformation by technology. What drives our growth is our reputable acquisition program, combined with proprietary technology and playbooks, which we believe continues to equate to clear visibility for sustained double-digit growth, which we've achieved every year since our inception. Our exclusive digital assets, we've spoken a lot about that and clear value proposition position us as the thought leader in the industry with an opportunity to capitalize on significant white space. Only 3% of the market is consolidated. We think go double end -- and sorry, only about 5% of the market is consolidated. We have 3% of the market. We think we'll double that over the next 4 years and change. And we have an executive team with long-term economic alignment, and we believe an enviable track record of performance at scale and really excited about the next 3 to 4 years.
David Newman
analystExcellent. Thank you, Graham. I appreciate you joining us the first time at our conference. Have a great day.
Graham Rosenberg
executiveGlad to be here. Thank you so much, David. Be well.
David Newman
analystThank you.
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