DENTSPLY SIRONA Inc. (XRAY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

June 3, 2021

NASDAQ US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies conference_presentation 28 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Jonathan Block

analyst
#1

Great. Thanks. Good morning. Jon Block with Stifel. And our next company today is Dentsply Sirona, a leading manufacturer of dental equipment and supplies. And today, I'm joined by Jorge Gomez, Executive Vice President and CFO of Dentsply Sirona; and Andrea Daley, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#2

Somewhat of a short time period. So we're just going to go ahead and jump right into Q&A. Jorge, I'll start on the technology side of things, specific to the CEREC upgrade cycle. And I think a component of our downgrade back in December when I look back, we had some concern on where the company stood with its CEREC product cycle, notably Primescan. And I think, quite honestly, in retrospect, it might have been a little bit early there because it seems like you've got more legs, and I'd really call out the different geographies. So maybe if you could just sort of level set us where you are with the Primescan upgrade in North America and then how that compares to other markets such as Europe and rest of world?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#3

Very good. Jon, thank you, and good morning, everybody. Jon, we are very pleased with the progression of our Primescan, Primemill offers. We -- as you know, we launched Primescan in 2019. And then we began at the end of that year the upgrade cycle in North America. So that began -- that happened in Q4 right after the [ rest of world ]. And then sales, obviously, were somewhat impacted in 2020 as a result of the pandemic. But as we go fast forward into Q1 and we look back at the product, we are extremely pleased with Primescan, the sales, the trajectory. And as we enter this new phase in 2021, we believe we have still a lot of opportunities with that product, similarly with Primemill, and I'll come back to Primescan in a second, but Primemill was launched probably at a -- not an ideal time, if you will. We did it in January of last year, and that, obviously, had some significant impact on the ramp for that product. But now we are kind of doing a new launch of Primemill, and we expect that this is going to be very effective. We are expanding how we look at CEREC and digital technologies in general. With respect to Primescan, we're not only focused on CEREC, user CEREC units, but we are also focusing now on DI, just essentially just the camera. And the market opportunity is still very, very big globally. We -- in the U.S., we're now doing -- we're beginning to do trade-in. So we went from trade ops to now going to trade-ins in the U.S. through our competitive products. Outside the U.S., we have launched the trade-up program in a number of geographies. One thing that is good about markets outside the U.S. is that the tail for the upgrade cycle is much longer. In the U.S., those upgrade cycles tend to be shorter, like steep and shorter. Outside the U.S., they take longer, but the ramp is good. And so we're going through that process right now with Primescan. And we're beginning to do things with Primescan, Primemill in terms of trade-out programs. And when you look at the guidance that we provided for '21 and the implied growth rates, a lot of that has to do with the performance of that business. We are -- we believe very much in our open architecture, open technology. And Primescan is going to be -- is a great driver of our SureSmile business. And as we think about the future, it's going to be the entry point for a lot of integrated workflows, digital integrated workflows. And so we are optimistic about the durability of this product and the possibility that it will continue to grow for some time.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#4

Okay, Jorge. Very helpful. And maybe in my words, it seemed like you may have referenced upgrade cycle, maybe more middle innings in North America and early innings in Europe and rest of world. Again, that's how maybe I framed it. Do we think about that having durability or contribution into growth even into 22? I mean you talked about that longer tail in some of these OUS markets. Do you think that's fair in terms of Primescan and Primemill can still act as, call it, an incremental contributor to growth even when we look out into next year being '22?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#5

Yes, I think so. Perhaps the time frame may be a little bit slightly different than what you're saying. But essentially, yes. I think, as I said before, outside the U.S., that tail is going to be longer in the U.S., we're probably a little bit past the middle innings and going into that second phase, but we are, again, adding the trade-ins. So that helps up for some time.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#6

Okay. Great. And let's stick with technology, and I want to move to the announcement the other day, the agreement with 3Shape. They have a big installed base of scanners and have a very good scanner. And it seems like -- correct me if I'm wrong, but it will be interoperable with the SureSmile aligner. So maybe if you just want to talk to that deal at a high level. It seems like I know what you guys get out of the deal, right? I mean we've done a ton of work, and we can see the utilization of clear aligners goes up when you digitize the entire workflow. So hopefully, there's higher utilization or uptake on the SureSmile clear aligners. Is there something that goes back to 3Shape in the other direction? Maybe if you could elaborate a little bit on it.

Jorge Gomez

executive
#7

So first, I mean, we are very excited about this partnership. I think there is other opportunities beyond SureSmile and their scanner. The initial phase of the partnership, I think, you described it really well. It's about seamless interaction between their camera, the software in their camera and our SureSmile business. Today, both systems are open, open architecture. But doing -- using both is cumbersome, right, because dentist has to -- they have to download files, upload files, manipulate data with the new interpretability of these 2 software is totally seamless. They take the digital picture that information is sent to the SureSmile software, and the dentist has nothing else to do there. So it's great from that standpoint. You're absolutely right. For us, is a great partnership. It opens up a market that we don't have access today for the most part. I mean we could, but it's hard. They have a large installed base globally. And so our SureSmile business from a scientific standpoint, clinical standpoint has proven to be second to none, great product, and they like that product. And so for us, expanded market clearly; for them, today, they believe our product is very good. They have been blocked by other participants in the industry, and they have the opportunity to give their customers, their clients and access to a great product, the SureSmile product. So for them, it also helps from the standpoint of selling their cameras.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#8

Okay. Very helpful. Yes. I mean, to your point, it's been thought about as clear liner is sometimes like the killer app for the scanners. So now arguably if they were blocked by another industry player, that 3Shape could have a clear [ route ] with a really good clear aligner with SureSmile. Now you started the conversation or this talk [ track care ], if I said, there could be other opportunities further down the road. Do I think about an opportunity to hook up the mill -- Primemill to these 3Shape accounts, maybe further down the road when you allude to that open architecture?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#9

We're not prepared to give any specifics right now because we -- I mean, this -- documenting these agreements takes some time, and we just finished documenting first agreement. I think in terms of both companies are very much invested into digital technologies and software capabilities. And so I think the future is about integrating workflows, and I think we have opportunities to do further work in that space.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#10

Okay. Fair enough. I'm going to stick with technology, I'm going to move to the Clear Aligner portfolio, which is meaningful between SureSmile. And Byte, Byte, it looks like it was roughly $40 million in the first quarter of '21. The company is expecting to exit the year at around a $200 million run rate, which really isn't a long way from here. Just talk to us about what's gone well so far. What's allowing Byte to seemingly capture share from some of the other DTC players such as SmileDirect?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#11

Yes. We're very excited about the Byte acquisition when we first started looking at them, which was actually about a year ago. We -- our first impression was they had a tremendous capability from a digital marketing perspective. They have very good people, very good in size, software engineers, they have good data. And to us, that was a strategic asset that we wanted to add into our stable of assets. And after now 6 months of owning the company, we are even more excited about those capabilities. And to your point about how are they been able to take share, I think, those digital marketing capabilities are coupled with a good product that is now going to be even better because now we have the aggregated data of SureSmile and Byte. And as you know, in that space, the more cases you have, the better your library and the better the outcomes produced by the product because the artificial intelligence behind this product is able to simulate more cases and so makes the treatment plans faster and more importantly, more accurate. And so the integration is going well at all levels, at the clinical level, at the data level. From a digital marketing perspective, we're actually not integrating anything. We are leaving them along. We are actually learning from them because they are the ones who know about that space. We don't. And we are adopting some of those learnings into our e-commerce platform. As you probably remember, we've been investing in our e-commerce platform for a while now, and that is going to be an important asset for us going forward. So that whole integration is going well. We're working on the next phase -- actually, we -- I think, the core business will continue to grow really fast, but we're also working on Byte Pro, which is kind of the next phase for our multichannel approach to aligner. So we have the in-office offering with SureSmile. We have Byte direct-to-consumer. And then for class -- some Class II and Class III cases that are not able to be handled by Byte, we are -- we're going to direct that volume into a curated network of dentists that we are close to because they are our customers today. And that's going to create a new incremental volume for those practices because the reality is that a lot of the people who come to Byte, they are not even -- they haven't even visited a dentist in months or in years in many cases. And so they are essentially new volume into the industry. And if we're able to send them to other dentists, and that's going to create new revenue sources for the dentist, and we're able to actually sell SureSmile as well. So that is an important aspect of the next phase of the integration.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#12

Got it. And the next is the integration. I just want to follow-up on a couple of things there. So Jorge, does that individual who's not a Class I or Class II, is that a Byte case then once they go into the professional channel? Or is that a SureSmile case or TBD?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#13

So Class I cases that comes straight to Byte, those are Byte Class Is, right?

Jonathan Block

analyst
#14

Yes. What about the Class II that goes to Byte?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#15

Class II -- we are in the process of figuring that out, like -- and that's why we haven't launched program formally because we want to make sure that we have a clear handbook, playbook for this in terms of incentives and how this is going to work. And I think for the most part, I think, what's going to happen is if that patient goes to the dentist, that is going to be dentist revenue, hopefully, SureSmile revenue. Most likely it's going to be SureSmile revenue. That's probably how this is going to play out.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#16

Okay. And then maybe something else with the integration. Just if you can talk to us about the vertical integration of Byte, are all those aligners coming out of Dentsply Sirona or are they on the same sort of SureSmile platform, if you would?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#17

Yes. The aligners, the manufacturing side of the integration is underway. They were using, for the most part, third-party manufacturers, and we have our own facility that we have invested a lot of money in Mexicali for SureSmile. And the integration plan is to integrate all of this volume into the same facility. Now that -- the synergies from that are included in the business case. But honestly, there isn't a lot of money there. The interest aspect of the integration is more -- is the data integration, it's having a common software that utilizes the same data base that is really, really big. That's where the benefits come from in terms of integrating the processes of the 2 companies.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#18

Okay. Okay. Maybe one more on the Byte deal, and then I'm going to pivot because a lot of other topics to get to. Post the Byte deal, we did some work. We talked a potential channel conflict with GPs and how they might view the acquisition. Maybe if you could just talk to any early feedback. Feel free to say, Jon, you're crazy, that was never an issue. It's not the first [indiscernible]. So just talk...

Jorge Gomez

executive
#19

I would never call you crazy, but go ahead.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#20

Just talk to us, are you getting any blowback from GPs at all? If so, is it from a GP who's doing clear aligner, someone who's not doing clear aligners? How is the industry perceiving that acquisition, 6 months post the announcement?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#21

Yes. No, I know you have brought up this topic multiple times, and we've been consistent with our position on this, which is based on data. First, when we were thinking about doing the acquisition, again, about a year ago, that was one of the first things from a due diligence perspective that we looked at. And we did a lot of work, market research, service, a bunch of things to understand if there was going to be a blowback from other customers. And the outcome of that analysis was there was minimal conflict. And I alluded to some of the reasons why the conflict is not there. And that is the fact that these are very different populations. The demographics is very different. In terms of age group, in terms of income levels, very different price points are very different. And as I said before, this has actually taken a customer through Byte and sending that customer to the in-office services. That is actually adding volume to the industries, adding volume to the dental space. So from that standpoint, we believe we are just beginning to create a lot of excitement for GPs that are going to have great technology or have great technology from a scanning perspective. They have powerful software through SureSmile or Byte. And that's going to be incremental volume for them. We're not there yet. We are mostly now doing all of the pure Byte volume, and we have had not major complaints from the GPs that we work with or our customer base. A few people here and there have complained. But for the most part, they are not even in the clear aligner's space. That's one interesting thing that we found out is people that are not even in that space. So we have no concerns. We believe we can serve both populations really well, and more importantly, over time, we are going to be able to actually send more volume, not only aligners volume to dentists in general but by bringing people that have not seen the dentist in years, that is going to create opportunities for dentists to do other procedures with this population.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#22

Okay. Okay, perfect. Fair enough. Let's shift gears to R&D. And I think one of the impressive things about the OpEx leverage is that you really are actually doing it while deleveraging, if you would, in R&D. There's been a talk about renewed commitment to R&D from a Dentsply Sirona perspective. It got down to 3.3%, 3.4% of sales in 2019, 2020. But this year, or you called out $160 million in R&D, it's going to be closer to 4% of sales. So maybe talk to us about what areas the company is targeting. And you've also alluded to more workflow emphasis rather than specific products, maybe you can give some details there, please.

Jorge Gomez

executive
#23

Yes. And just to kind of give a perspective for the journey of the company in the last 3, 4 years, when Don got here, the -- we had an R&D organization that was broken down and essentially about 11 different groups working on their own bank. And one of the first things he did was to bring all of these groups together, preserving the verticals, but having a common strategy and a common management approach for the R&D. So one of the first outcomes from that transformation was actually spend came down because we found out there was a lot of duplication, obviously. We found out that there were people working on projects that were not important at all for the company. So spend came down, and we started to work on infrastructure, processes, discipline around investment. And we have been going on that for a couple of years now. So we feel like now we are in a position to spend more money because we have greater visibility, because the spend is direct -- is being directed to strategic areas of the company. And that's why now we went out and say, "Okay, we're going to target about 4% of revenue", which is the $160 million number that we included in our guidance. And we feel good about increasing the number because we have the frameworks now to manage to govern that investment and because we have a lot more strategic clarity in terms of the spaces where we want to spend. And those areas, we have been very clear. We just talk about one of them, clear aligners. That's a very important space for us. The digital scanning capabilities, let's call it, digital dentistry, from an equipment perspective, very important area for us. Our inputs is one area where we are big, we have great margins, but we haven't grown as much as we should have. We haven't matched the growth rate of the industry. So we are doing more there, both organically from an R&D perspective, and we are adding some capabilities like the bone regeneration acquisition that we did with Datum. We also want to invest more in our consumables -- specialty consumables business. So we are creating an innovation center here in Charlotte, North Carolina, where we're going to bring all of the basic capabilities from a consumables perspective, and we're going to add a lot of talent because we have a few franchises, as you know, Endo, Resto, which are great franchises for us in terms of size, profitability, growth, and that's going to be also a key area for us. So -- and then the final point that you also brought up is strategically, and this theme comes through in many parts of how we describe the company, the integrated workflows is very important. Think about it from a commercial standpoint. We've been talking about reducing the number of sales forces. We had also like 11 sales forces before, we're down to 4 to 6, depending on the region. And we're doing that by creating greater focus on the customer, going to our customer as one company with the full breadth of our offering. We -- so commercial, we're doing that. We're putting incentives that are aligned with that. So One DS, when you think about One DS, it's about increasing share of wallet by incenting our customers to buy more of our things because one thing that was very prevalent with us was, we had great -- very high share of wallet in one product and very low in the rest of the portfolio. We're trying to move everything up at the same time. And now in addition to that, in addition to sales, incentives, how we think organically within the company, now technology is another piece of that puzzle, is having a seamless software from scanning capabilities to treatment plants like SureSmile, like Byte and then other things will go into those workflows. So that is not one isolated thing we're working on. When you think about the overall strategy of the company, we are going in that direction. And all of them build that.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#24

And I think, Jorge, part of that is really leveraging that massive installed base that you have out there of scanners.

Jorge Gomez

executive
#25

Exactly. Exactly.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#26

Two companies in dental, with all due respect, to others had 50,000-plus scanners, it's Primescan omni/iTero from a line, right? And so you're in a really [indiscernible] you've got the front end of that, which is becoming a central part of the practice. We just heard about Heartland thinks there's going to be 2 to 3 scanners in every single dental practice, every footprint and you want to leverage that across the workflow.

Jorge Gomez

executive
#27

Absolutely. And one of the ironies of the history of the company is that we probably, historically, have always had the biggest portfolio, but we were not utilizing the power of the enterprise to increase share of wallet. And so all of these things we're doing are intended to fix that.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#28

Okay. Okay. A couple of minutes left, and I've got the CFO, so I'd be silly not to talk about margins, which has just been a tremendous story for you guys over the past couple of years. Maybe just looking at -- you plan on exiting -- let's look forward. You plan on exiting 2022 at or above 22% op margins, and you're already in the low 20s, if you would. How do we think about long-term margin expansions we're in? In other words, can Dentsply Sirona, everything is so choppy because of COVID, but can Dentsply Sirona be 100 bps per annum of op margin expansion, when we take into consideration gross margin expansion and OpEx leverage?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#29

Listen, I always like to deliver on promises before I offer new promises, right? So we are very much on track to get to the 22% level. And I think we have a clear road map to that. Do I believe that there are opportunities to go above that number? Yes, I think there are opportunities. I don't have a clear road map to achieve in that incremental 100 basis points that you're talking about. But there is a possibility, but we haven't gotten to that point yet. There is also a consideration at some point of the trade-off between investments and increase in margins, right? And we have been really mindful of that. When you look at the restructuring that we have gone through, we have been pretty decisive on a number of things, but we have also been kind of delicate in terms of balancing investments for the future and short-term improvements. And that's the mentality that we want to keep. I think what is really important for us strategically is to establish a base of predictable top line growth that is highly profitable and consistent, which is something that the company has not done historically. And so in order to achieve that, there might be situations where you need to sacrifice a little bit of margin in order to ensure that your top line keeps growing at a reasonable rate. And so that is also a consideration as we think about what comes next after next year.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#30

And a good problem to have, if you think there's a lot of that innovation that you can bring to the industry to help grow [ Dentsply Sirona ]. I think, I'll squeeze in one more even if we don't have time for it and it's a little bit of a nuance of the model. But when I look back, I look back at 2017 to 2019, Jorge, 1Q represented 20% of your full year EPS in each year. This year, if I look at your 1Q, which was particularly strong, you would be closer to 25% maybe 24% if I pushed the nickel, right? That you talked about the $0.05 push. Either way, it seems like the guide is conservative in that regard. Why would this year be different, especially if we think about the dental industry for the balance of 2021, maybe even getting a little bit stronger as it's seemingly gaining momentum?

Jorge Gomez

executive
#31

Yes. I would not say that our guide is conservative. I think it balances risks and opportunities. I think Q1 was a little bit of a strange quarter for -- mostly related to the recovery from COVID. I think we saw, as the vaccine rollout was gaining traction as people were getting more comfortable, I think, the level of optimism and volume started to pop up and that compelled everybody in the industry to gear up for higher volumes because they were happening. So take our example, we've -- if you look at the inventory balance of the company at the end of Q4, it was lower than at the end of Q1. Why? Because as we projected '21, as we gave guidance of growth in '21, we knew that we needed to buy more. So I would say -- and I said -- I used these words during the earnings call, I think there was an overall replenishment, if you will, of the entire supply chain. I'm not talking about dealers, okay? Just -- I'm glad to make sure that it's clear. It's not dealers. It's the entire supply chain, it's manufacturers, dealers, dentists, everybody is just buying more to sell more because the volume is back. I think a lot of that happened in the quarter and was reflected on the top line. From a bottom-line perspective for us, there was that plus the timing of certain investments and discretionary spend. I think discretionary spend remains still very constrained. And that is going to be -- is going to increase over time. I don't think we're going to go back to the same levels in T&E and other discretionary spend areas that we had before, but it's going to go up because now people are spending time with customers face-to-face. We have people traveling. All of that is factored. And then last thing I would say from a risk perspective that is factored into our guidance is, we are seeing challenges with respect to supply chain costs, like distribution costs, and we're seeing challenges with respect to shortage of certain components, especially semiconductors.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#32

[indiscernible] called out. Okay. Fair enough. Jorge, great color as always. It was great to see you. And a great rest of the conference. Really appreciate your participation and talk soon.

Jorge Gomez

executive
#33

Good luck, and thank you for the time.

Jonathan Block

analyst
#34

Thanks, guys. Take care.

Jorge Gomez

executive
#35

Bye.

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