Dhanuka Agritech Limited (507717) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 22, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Dhanuka Agritech Q1 FY '21 Earnings Conference Call hosted by Antique Stock Broking. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Manish Mahawar from Antique Stock Broking. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Manish Mahawar
analystThanks, Janice. On behalf of Antique Stock Broking, I would like to welcome all the participants on the call. From the management, we have Mr. M.K. Dhanuka, Managing Director; Mr. Rahul Dhanuka, Director, Marketing; and Mr. V.K. Bansal, CFO, on the call. Without further ado, I would like to hand over the call to Mr. Dhanuka for opening remarks. Over to you, Mr. Dhanuka.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveThank you, Mr. Manish. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Hope you all are doing well and keeping safe. Thank you for joining us for the Q1 FY '21 results conference call. I have with me Mr. Rahul Dhanuka, Director, Marketing; and Mr. V.K. Bansal, CFO of the company. Dhanuka Agritech Limited is a leading agrochemical company in India. We specialize in formulated products and have a solution for almost every crop. We have a strong diversified product portfolio, which is well distributed across insecticides, herbicides and fungicide segment. We have a pan-India presence with over 7,000 distributors and dealers and approximately 80,000 retailers. We have 3 state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in Rajasthan, Gujarat, J&K. Coming to the quarterly operating performance. Despite the challenges faced during the nation-wide lockdown and reverse migration of labors from big cities to rural areas, I'm pleased to inform you that we have witnessed record sale on the backdrop of good monsoon, recharged groundwater table and better sowing in kharif season during the month of June. Some of the ambitious steps taken by the Government of India to revive the role of agriculture in the growth of Indian economy such as increasing Minimum Support Prices, eNAM portal, distribution of soil health cards and direct benefit transfer via PM Kisan Samman Nidhi have helped to create a robust foundation to announce farmers' income and encourage wide -- wider adoption of high-quality seeds and judicious use of fertilizers. These initiatives would transform Indian agriculture and make it competitive globally. Coming to the financial performance for the quarter, revenues from operations stood at INR 373.84 crores in Q1 of FY '21 versus INR 219 crores in Q1 of FY '20, representing an increase of 70.7% growth. EBITDA stood at INR 65.28 crores in Q1 of FY '21 versus INR 19.97 crores in Q1 of FY '20, up 226.94%. EBITDA margins improved from 9.1% in Q1 of '20 to 17.5% in Q1 of FY '21, led by strong operating leverage. Profit after tax was at INR 51.79 crores in Q1 '21 versus INR 14.79 crores in Q1 FY '20, up 250.12%. PAT margins improved from 6.76% in Q1 of FY '20 to 13.85% in Q1 FY '20 (sic) [ Q1 FY '21 ]. Such a tremendous performance is possible because of the teamwork from factories, from the marketing team, from finance team, from logistics team and all deserve appreciation from management. Coming to the zone-wise share of turnover for Q1 FY '21. North zone contributed 31%, east zone contributed 10%, west zone contributed 42% and south zone contributed 17%. Product-wise category -- product category-wise share of turnover for Q1 FY '21. Insecticides contributed 31%, fungicides contributed 11%, herbicides contributed 46%; and others 12%. You are well aware that at initial stage, consumption starts with herbicides, followed by insecticides and then fungicides. I'm happy to inform that the Board has approved buyback of equity shares of the company using funds of INR 100 crores at a maximum price of INR 1,000 per share. These equity shares will subsequently be extinguished, resulting in reduction of paid-up share capital of the company. We would like to highlight that we have received approval for 1 molecule in this quarter under section 9(3) category, which will be used for grapes and potatoes. Also during the last quarter, we have launched 2 new products by the name of Dabooch and Dozo Maxx, which are both herbicides. Both the products are in-license products. Friends, Dhanuka regularly organize various seminars, Krishak Goshtis and sammelans to educate our farmers about new innovative techniques of farming. Being India's leading agrochemical company, we are at the forefront of introducing digital solutions and innovation, streamlining policies and collaborating with ingenious entities to boost integration of technology across business segments. In the same endeavor, we have tried to boost our reach through online farmer interactions and aggressive use of TV advertisements for our 3 products, such as Sempra and Targa Super. We are focused on expanding our market coverage through our network of distributors and our digital platforms where we are engaged with the end consumer. We consider ourselves responsible to our securing the farmers' welfare and preserving food security of the nation. We continue to strengthen our association with the farmer producer organization, Krishi Vigyan Kendra and other critical institutions to increase our business expertise and boost our market presence. To summarize at last, Dhanuka continues to demonstrate our ability to overcome challenges and emerge stronger despite uncertain business environment. We will aggressively roll out new formulations in the upcoming quarters and would ensure that it reaches to the consumers. I reassure our shareholders that we are committed to the task of transforming the landscape of agriculture in India, and will play an integral role in rewriting the future of a better and new India. And now on this note, I would like to hand over the mic to Mr. Manish to enable us to take question and answers. Thank you very much.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] We take the first question from the line of Rohit Nagraj from Sunidhi Securities.
Rohit Nagraj
analystSir, our sales have been very robust and congratulations on the sales. Is there any preponement of sales for Q1 due to the lockdown issue and probably maybe the lockdown will be extended if second wave comes in. So from that perspective, has there been -- we are seeing that some of the sales, which was supposed to do in Q2 have come online in Q1?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes. Definitely, there is a preponement as well as postponement of the sales in the quarter 1. Because of the lockdown in Q4, we could not meet the billing of at least 8 days. So approximately 10% of the sales of Q4 were postponed to -- in Q1. At the same time, because of onset of monsoon before in time, so there was a preponement of sale as well of July to some extent. That's right.
Rohit Nagraj
analystOkay. And currently, how is the situation for the month of July? I mean everything has come to normal in terms of our plant operation, our logistics and supply chain, both from product placement perspective and from raw material procurement perspective?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveCould you please repeat that question?
Rohit Nagraj
analystYes. So now that the first quarter is over and we're at the end of month of July, so how has been the position in terms of our plant operations have been normalized? And on the supply chain front, sir, both from our product placement in the market and raw material procurement?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So our plant operations stabilized much earlier, I think so, somewhere around April end, they were significantly up and running. And I think so by mid-May, we were running at full capacity. We received large support in this from the local governments from -- at the district and the state level also. Agriculture and agri inputs being essential commodity, we received a very good support. At one of our plants, we faced issue of the labor going back to their native districts. But the -- by the month of June end, they were really back and into operations up and active again. So plant operations are absolutely really good, and that's why we could service our channel and customers in the last quarter. In terms of the supply chain, I believe, except for the sporadic impact of the local district level lockdowns, the supply chain is significantly smooth and things are moving positively. And also, the procurement pipeline faced some hiccups in May and June for various reasons, which also has significantly stabilized, and the procurement pipeline is also running largely unhindered, undisturbed.
Rohit Nagraj
analystAnd sir, one last question. In our presentation, we have said that we target to launch 10 new products across the segments over the next 2 years. So what are the categories? And what are the crops we are targeting for? And what is the potential revenue or potential of these 10 products? That's it.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So in the call, I'm only specifying the products which we are going to launch. However, we have maintained largely an effort to introduce about 4 to 5 products every year. We have already introduced 2 products in the previous quarter, which is Dabooch and Dozo Maxx. And we are planning to launch about 3 to 4 more products within this year, out of which 2 will be 9(3) introductions. Our efforts will be to cover the -- all these segments of herbicides, fungicides and insecticides. We'll be introducing across the span.
Rohit Nagraj
analystYes. Any market size for these 10 products? Any idea, I mean broader understanding?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveNo, we are not specifying that.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We take the next question from the line of Varshit Shah from Emkay Global.
Varshit Shah
analystHeartiest congratulations to the management team for this splendid performance. My question is on the margins. So you are seeing gross margin improvement on a Y-o-Y basis. But my sense is that probably gross margins could have improved even better. I think one of the reason I could think of is because we were ahead of the competition in terms of securing our supply chain, especially from the imports. And hence, we were able to place the products probably ahead of competition, which led to this robust performance. But then probably we had to compromise a bit on margins in the form of higher cost of goods because we were ahead in the game and then prices came down subsequently. Is my assessment correct? That's part one. And if that is yes, then will we see even further improvement in gross margins in Q2? That's my question.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveFor your second concern, definitely, we can expect improvement in gross margin in Q2. That's right. And with regard to your -- first part of your question, I have understood you are saying that there is an improvement in the gross margin by 19 bps, but it could be much better than this, right?
Varshit Shah
analystYes, sir. Yes, sir.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSo yes, you're right. It could be. I cannot deny that. But you see, in the quarter 1 portion of the -- some B2B sale in generic is exponentially increased disproportionately. Therefore, increases like this, it could have been better if the proportion, which we have normally 2/3 or 1/3, it remains like this, it could have been much better.
Varshit Shah
analystUnderstood. So I think going forward, it would normalize. That's what I can assume?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveThat's right. That's right.
Varshit Shah
analystAgain, congratulations and best of luck for the rest of the quarter.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Madhav Marda from Fidelity Investments.
Madhav Marda
analystI just wanted to understand that given that there's been some preponement of sales in Q2 and some postponement from Q4, what should we look at in terms of annual sales growth for FY '21 given that the season looks very, very good right now? Any like thoughts on your side on that?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveWe have already given guidance of 20%-plus growth for the whole year. So we maintained our -- that guidance of 20%-plus growth.
Madhav Marda
analystOkay. Okay. And in terms of the EBITDA margin side, any outlook on that as well?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes. EBITDA margin also, the guidance was 100 bps improvement over last year. So that also we maintained that minimum 100 bps improvement over last year.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Probal Sen from Centrum Broking.
Probal Sen
analystCongratulations on the good set of numbers. Sir, 2 questions. One was you just mentioned about the category-wise breakup, where herbicides has obviously stood out. Is it a function of the fact that this -- because of the shortage of labor, there has been more transplantation and weed removal investment by the farmers? And if so, for the rest of the year, can we expect this proportion to once again revert back to the sort of 40% insecticide and 35%, 33% herbicides for the full year? That was the first question, sir.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes, you are right, Mr. Probal. This quarter, because of the migration of the labor, especially from Punjab, Haryana, et cetera, the manual weeding was not possible, and that's why chemical weeding is the only option for the farmers. So consumption of herbicides even, otherwise, in first quarter is always higher. So we hope that at the year-end, the similar percentage will be there. That means insecticide consumption in the bracket of around 43% and herbicide consumption around 31%.
Probal Sen
analystOkay. And sir, the other question was more near term. I think you mentioned earlier also as well as on TV that Q2 historically tends to be the strongest quarter for you in a year. Now obviously, this year, we are going off a larger base because 1Q itself is so strong. But still, on a Q-o-Q basis, is it fair to assume that 2Q would be stronger than even this quarter if things stay as favorable as they are now?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveNo, that much growth was possible in Q1 because of the postponement of the March sales to first quarter and preponement of July sales in first quarter. So that much growth is not possible in the second quarter. However, over last year, there will be definitely growth we are expecting in the second quarter also, being monsoon good and sowing all-time high. So that's why growth is 100% going to be there.
Probal Sen
analystRight, right, right. And sorry if I missed this, sir, if I may ask one last question, what is the share of sort of the newer molecules, what you call, in your overall sales as of now, just as a rough percentage?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveAre you there, Vinod?
Vinod Bansal
executiveYes. In quarter 1, it is coming 7.4%.
Probal Sen
analystOkay, 7.4%, sir?
Vinod Bansal
executiveYes, current year plus 3 years. As in last year, in quarter 1, it was 7.34%. It is almost similar to last year. There is an improvement of only 6 bps. But by the year-end, we are expecting a significant improvement over last year, say, more than 200 basis points.
Probal Sen
analystOkay. Okay. Okay. So for the full year, a 200 bps improvement in this index?
Vinod Bansal
executiveAbsolutely, we are expecting at least minimum.
Probal Sen
analystCongratulations again and all the best.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Viraj Kacharia from Securities Investment Management.
Viraj Kacharia
analystJust 2 questions, sir. First of all, congratulations for good set of numbers. So first question is, so as of end of March, the inventory in the channel for us and the industry also was quite thin. And in the initial part of the Q1, you had issues in production and placement. So currently, how would the inventory in the channel be for us and the inventory now, as of June end or in July so far? How is the inventory position in the channel being now? So that is one. Second you talked about the gross margin expansion starting to play out in Q2. So is it purely a function of product mix which we expect to correct? Or is it also the fact that you expect either the RM and price environment being more favorable of you and your products have taken a price increase? So which of those factors are actually going to drive the margin expansion? And third is, if you can provide any update on those ban of 27 molecules, which the government had come up with the order. So has there been any further update on that? And also on the glyphosate-related molecule?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSo first of all, I'll be talking about the channel inventory. Of course, March end, the channel inventory was not very high. And subsequently, due to aggressive sowing, availability of irrigation water, availability of groundwater has led to actual consumption of agrochemicals. So April, May, June has seen significant consumption of agrochemicals and almost 60% to 70% of the stocks build have been consumed. So there is pretty less inventory in the pipeline. What I'm talking to you about is the 30th June situation, and then the consumption has continued. So that is -- the pipeline stocks are not expected to be very high. That is one thing. Of course, the second point was about the margin expansion. So in Q2, the largely impact will be of the product mix.
Vinod Bansal
executiveYes if you see last year, there was a significant decline in the gross margin in Q2. So one, the base is low. Secondly, last year, there was a decline in trade when it started in the month of August. This year, we are not expecting such a trend. So therefore, it is a combination of all. One is the base, one is the decline in trade and third is the product mix. Therefore, we are expecting improvement in the Q2 GP.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveAnd then talking about 27 products ban, the industry took up very strongly this issue. Farmer associations and the channel also took up the issue very strongly because this does not have scientific base. And as of now, the subject has not moved forward. We are not looking at any of this ban coming into action in near future. The entire list contains about 3 red triangle products. So at worst, what can happen is that those red triangle products might come in the government's ambit in the short term. But in long term, the government would probably be seeking more data and being satisfied with the data would allow the products to be continued because these are the optimum low-cost choices and options available with the farmer, which is not, as of now, prudent to withdraw.
Viraj Kacharia
analystOkay. If I can squeeze in one question. Sir, you said that apart from the mix and the base, also the trade terms you have tightened. So for us in the industry, is that by and large the approach that, given the kind of demand and consumption we are seeing right now, the approach is more of tightening in terms of trade, either in terms of more stricter credit terms or increase in product prices, any of those things we have seen in the marketplace?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So as such, I would -- you know that Dhanuka is an asset-light model and a debt-free balance sheet, so we have that leverage available from our vendors. When we go out to reach out to our customers, I think so this is natural what is happening in the ecosystem. But we have improved our trade receivables significantly. So we have gone really aggressive on that front. And that was largely part of the plan as we were shaping up the Q4. We have gone aggressive on our collections and trade receivables.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We take the next question from the line of [ Rikin Shah ] from Phoenix Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystCongratulations on a fantastic set of numbers. Firstly, I'd just like to ask, now on the global scenario, we are seeing disruptions and companies like [indiscernible] saying that India has a very good opportunity for contract manufacturing, so are we going to be looking at that side? And secondly, I would like to ask, are we going to see a better trend of 9(3) and 9(4) in-licensing?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveIn-licensing is a continuous effort that we do because India does not have basic R&D, basic research available. We have two 9(3) products coming in this year, both are grapes fungicide. And we have some very powerful products in pipeline to be introduced in coming years. And this year, we've already introduced 2 in-licensed products, Dabooch and Dozo Maxx. And also going forward, we'll be continuing to do these in-licensing 9(4) products as well. So we are going to stay aggressive on both these fronts. Talking about the supply disruptions globally and the opportunity there is, yes, that opportunity is absolutely there and it is an open opportunity for Dhanuka also. As and when we have something powerful to share in this group, we'll certainly like to come back and do that.
Operator
operatorNext question is from the line of [ Krish Kothari ] from Shinobi Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystI was wondering could you tell me if you, in your assessment, as you've managed to gain some market share predominantly from smaller companies that -- especially private companies that may not have been able to sort of have necessary production going on in the factory in the quarter or had problems with the distribution network?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. It is relatively difficult to assess because even our team does not have very clear access to the markets right now due to corona-related restrictions imposed by the district administrations or sometimes the market associations themselves. So what I'm talking is relatively more secondhand. So this is true that the unorganized sector probably could not service the market with as much agility, and that is why the market would have shifted towards the organized sector mode. That is one thing. Secondly, I also have a sense that because of our very agile supply chain at Dhanuka, our 3 formulation units being up and running relatively much earlier, our very sincere efforts to have all our depots spread across the country to become active in spite of the local curfews was very helpful in servicing our farmers, the service what happened in the industry. So it was a very agile supply chain for which we were able to take this advantage. And all the credit goes to our supply chain team and the 3 factories team, which did this great job. So as an outcome, the market share would have certainly increased.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And just one question on the employee cost for the quarter, I was wondering has there been any salary cuts? And assuming there have been, will they simply be made up in subsequent quarters? Or have you paid pretty much 100%?
Vinod Bansal
executiveWe have paid 100%.
Operator
operatorNext question is from the line of Nitin Agarwal from IDFC Securities.
Nitin Agarwal
analystSir, 2 questions. One is, a, with all this talk about potential banning of certain goods from China -- I mean, a, how do you see that impacting the industry landscape in general? And 2, I mean from a Dhanuka perspective, sir, how much of a business impact does it have for us from a strategy perspective?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So I don't think so we've heard any specific message around banning of agrochemicals import from China. How I look at it is that agriculture is the cornerstone of Indian economy, GDP, both economically as well as politically. What we should worry about as a country and as a government is about food imports. So still we have to indulge in a lot of pulses imports, lot of oilseed imports, and we need to really take care of that by increasing the productivity in our country. So should we become food dependent or should we become chemical dependent for a while? While the government takes initiatives to increase Make in India and increase the chemical production in the country, which is certainly laudable and appreciable effort. I think so we will not be -- as a country, we will not be compromising with our food security. And we would probably be trying and making the efforts to check our import bill -- our food import bill. So that's not happening in short term is my feel. But if there is any dumping happening of agrochemicals from China or something like that, then I think the government should take a serious view of that and take corrective actions as well. Talking about the strategic perspective of China sourcing, for Dhanuka, our strategic sourcing is largely from our Japanese principle. Our 9(3) pipeline largely constitutes of Japanese partnerships and products. And also our relationship with American and European companies, which are the major source of in-licensing products. So the strategic base remains clear.
Nitin Agarwal
analystAnd, sir, secondly, what's the broader question? Sir, we've had -- this is pretty much our best year after a gap of almost 3 years, right? Because then we've had very uneven monsoons with flooding and effects after FY '17 onwards. So when we start to look like a 3-year view of this business going forward, in the context of how uneven growth has been for us over the last 3 to 4 years, so how should you -- how should we look at the business on a 3-year view? I mean does it continue to remain hostage to these monsoons on an annual basis as it's been in the recent past? Or you see a more structured -- structural sort of steady improvement in growth as you go forward?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So I cannot discount the impact of monsoon when we talk of 3 years perspective. Yet, at Dhanuka, we are making efforts to streamline this mode in terms of structural changes, how we can make it more and more agnostic to the monsoon impact. Now this initiative, while we are taking at our end, is also very visible in the environment because more irrigation channels are being established, more water accessibility for the farmer is happening and the technology is moving towards drought-resistant crops in agriculture. So that is going to help the Indian agriculture grow and stabilize in perspective. From our side, we are introducing more products which are suitable for the farmer even in case of less water. So for example, last year itself, we have introduced a product, Chempa, which is a rice herbicide and it is meant for direct-seeded rice and water-stressed rice. And this year, it was because of labor stress that the Punjab and Haryana kisan and various other markets, the farmers shifted to labor-free, direct-seeded rice and Chempa has exhibited a major boost. So what I'm sharing is we are trying to make our portfolio also monsoon agnostic.
Nitin Agarwal
analystRight. And if I can squeeze in one last one. Sir, for the kharif or rabi season, are there any indications why -- when will we start getting a sense of how rabi will really play out this year for us -- for the industry?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSo far, the monsoon forecast is very good for the rabi. Also La Niña is largely predicted and has settled. La Niña is a monsoon-favorable situation of the Pacific and Atlantic. So I think so we are well placed when it comes to a good rabi rainfall. And we're also well placed in terms of the self-sufficiency call of the government of oil seeds, pulses and other crops. So I think so rabi is expected to be really good.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Rohan Gupta from Edelweiss.
Rohan Gupta
analystSir, first question is on our current year, I mean FY '21, the growth prospects, which we are seeing for our company. Sir, no doubt, Q1, we have seen a very solid growth. And you are still talking about that in Q2, you remain confident about further growth in Q2 as well, right? Despite this some preponement of sales happening in the current quarter, but you still remain confident that Q2 we may see growth over last year?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes. Definitely, we hope that we will definitely have growth over last year, which is evident from the last 20-day sales also.
Rohan Gupta
analystOkay. And maybe, sir, if I just were to look at the slightly more closely, then what kind of growth number we can expect? Though you've mentioned, sir, for full year, you are expecting 20%-plus revenue growth, my whole point was that given the robust Q1 and even if we are expecting a Q2 growth, then it means that for full year, we are going to see revenue growth number may be beyond 25% or even 30% also. So I'm just looking at, are we being conservative in terms of how we are seeing this year? Also, the same thing is, sir, reflected in bottom line like EBITDA margin expansion, though you initially guided for 100 basis points. But sir, if I keep your last year 9-month number same and Q1 number if I factor in for the current year, then itself you have achieved 150 basis point EBITDA margin expansion already. So I just wanted to get a clear sense that how FY '21 could pan out for us given that -- in a current scenario and how the agri is doing? So if you can just can share some more light on that.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveI will request Mr. V.K. Bansal to answer this question.
Vinod Bansal
executiveYes. Thank you. You see, you are absolutely right. So we have committed around 20% growth in the beginning of the year. Now looking for the quarter 1 numbers, definitely, we are hopeful that our overall growth will be more than 20%. In quarter 2, definitely, growth will come, and it should come in double digits. But you will see in the last year, rabi was very, very good -- exceptionally well. So in the last year rabi, growth appeared to be a little dull. I'm hoping so, it would not be very great in growth in the rabi. As far as EBITDA margin is concerned, you're absolutely right. We have completed 100 basis points, and I'm sure our EBITDA margin improvement is significantly more than what we committed.
Rohan Gupta
analystOkay. Okay. Sir, second question is related to buybacks. Sir, how should we read it? Is it in lieu of the dividend which generally we give or you thought that it's a better time to distribute the cash because we are doing the buyback when stock has seen a huge appreciation in last 3 months and even the buyback price is also pretty aggressive at INR 1,000. So is it in lieu of dividend you are doing the buyback because there is no tax-related benefit now? Or it is another smart way of paying the money to the promoters because 75% we have, and are we also going to participate in a buyback and so that is it a smart way of paying money to the share -- promoter? So just one thought on that, sir.
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes, you see. You see it's definitely one way of rewarding the shareholders. Instead of paying dividends, you are doing the buyback. In paying the dividend, the tax liability remains with the shareholder, while in the buyback, the tax liability will be borne by the company. So ultimately, shareholders are going to get the advantage in this buyback. Since promoters are holding 75%, so always that benefit will be passed on to the promoters also because they will be participating, it's the tender made. So promoters will be also participating in the buyback process.
Vinod Bansal
executiveAnd see, we are not saying we will not pay any dividend. But yes, in the year, buyback dividend is significantly lower as compared to the previous year. But the dividend will definitely be there this year as well.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Archit Joshi from Dolat Capital.
Archit Joshi
analystCongrats for a great set of numbers. Sir, we have had around 70-odd percent of volume growth for this quarter. I just wanted to ask if we have been benefited by the recent locust attacks that had happened in the quarter. So if I were to look at a like-for-like basis and if you can share the quantum of the volumes that we have had from the locust attack itself because I think we had about 7 to 8 products from our insecticide portfolio that could have been used for this particular phenomena. So if you can help us out with that?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So locust attack is relatively spread out in terms of the north and northwest of the country. However, its intensity keeps on varying depending upon the micro climate of the area. So right now, the locust is active in some parts of Haryana and Uttar Pradesh. And the agrochemical consumption is largely tender based where Dhanuka is not aggressively participating. Whatever is the consumption in the private hands of the farmer, our options are available to the farmer much aggressively and much better way for him to make his choice.
Archit Joshi
analystRight, sir. Got it. Sir, another question on the participant who had asked about the gross margin expansion. If you can just repeat as to what has happened in the first quarter and what we are expecting in the second quarter? I think I missed that point.
Vinod Bansal
executiveYou see, in the first quarter, there is an improvement of 90 bps in gross margin. And in quarter 2, we are expecting an improvement in the gross margin because last year, there was a significant decline in the gross margin in quarter 2 and because the price decline in trade was there in the month of August and September. This year, we are not expecting such a trade. So therefore, we are expecting an improvement in the gross margin as well as some improvement in the product mix as well.
Archit Joshi
analystRight, sir. Sir, on the same point, I think you've already taken a price hike in the previous quarter. And will that also sort of come into play if you -- if we consider the base? And if you can also comment on how is the underlying pricing of the things that we are importing from our in-licensing partners?
Vinod Bansal
executiveIn case of imports, normally, prices are stable for the -- throughout the year. The price change was significant in the month of April, May in case of generic and now largely settled. In the few molecules, there is a little softness, and in few molecules, there is an increase in the price.
Archit Joshi
analystRight, sir. So largely it's stable?
Vinod Bansal
executiveYes.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Levin Shah from Valuequest.
Levin Shah;Valuequest Investment Advisors
analystYes. Firstly, congratulations on very good set of numbers. Now if you look at the growth that we have seen this year, so majorly, the growth has been led by volume growth. And there has been hardly any price increase that we have seen. So do we see this phenomena continue throughout the year? Or like you said, that this was just because in this quarter, we saw that the product mix has changed? So that was the reason that we have seen no value growth as such?
Vinod Bansal
executiveYou see in this quarter, actually, the volume growth was more. It was 72.52% approx and whereas the revenue growth is 70.72%, which means there is a decline of around 180 bps in the value because of many molecules, prices were lower in the quarter 1 as compared to the price of quarter 1 in the last year. So I am expecting this gap will be fulfilled by the year-end. It would be almost -- should be almost similar, volume and value, by the year-end.
Levin Shah;Valuequest Investment Advisors
analystOkay. So we are not expecting any major growth in the value or the growth would be driven -- major growth would be driven by the volume?
Vinod Bansal
executiveAbsolutely right. That's correct.
Levin Shah;Valuequest Investment Advisors
analystRight. Sir, and my last question, again, is on this gross margin. So like what we have seen last year, there was a big compression in the gross margins in FY '20 numbers if we see. And now with growth coming back and also like new products that we have launched, do we see our gross margin going back to like FY '19 -- FY '18, FY '19 levels in this current year?
Vinod Bansal
executiveIt is little difficult to comment, but definitely, I can say one thing that this year there should be improvement quarter-on-quarter in the gross margin definitely because last year, there was a very bad situation.
Levin Shah;Valuequest Investment Advisors
analystSir, I'm talking about year as a whole. So if we compare FY '20 gross margin, they were like compressed as compared to FY '19. And there was like a major compression and last year's gross margins are one of the lowest in like 6, 7 years' history.
Vinod Bansal
executiveYes. That's what I'm saying. I'm not sure whether we will be equivalent to the FY '19 level, but that is sure that we would be better than the FY '20 level.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Deepak Kolhe from B&K Securities.
Deepak Kolhe
analystCongratulations, sir, for good set of numbers. Sir, can you please provide the generic and the specialty revenue mix for the first Q as well as for the last year?
Vinod Bansal
executiveYou see for the quarter 1, it is almost 50% -- 60%. And in the last year, it was approximately 60-40.
Deepak Kolhe
analystOkay. And sir, how do you see this raw material supply situation currently? If you can give some color on that, that would be great, sir.
Vinod Bansal
executiveRaw material supply largely is reasonably good.
Deepak Kolhe
analystIn terms of pricing, sir?
Vinod Bansal
executiveIn terms of pricing, pricing largely settled. In few molecules, the prices are a little on the higher side, and in few molecules, little softness is there.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Somaiah V from Spark Capital.
Somaiah Valliyappan
analystCongratulations on a great set of numbers. Sir, firstly, if I heard it right, the impact of Q4 sales getting moved into Q1, you mentioned it 10%, is that right, sir?
Vinod Bansal
executiveCould you repeat your question please?
Somaiah Valliyappan
analystAround 10% of Q4 sales got pushed into Q1 '21. Is that right to understand?
Vinod Bansal
executiveThat's right.
Somaiah Valliyappan
analystIn terms of the preponement that you mentioned, so -- I mean I know it's very difficult to kind of have a number to this, but any ballpark number in terms of how you think the revenues from Q2 had moved into Q1, a rough ballpark number?
Vinod Bansal
executiveCould be in the same range, around 10%, but it's very difficult to estimate, but it could be around 8% to 10%.
Somaiah Valliyappan
analystGreat sir, helpful. Sir, second, I think one of the previous participants mentioned about this locust impact on corresponding sales for us. So was there any kind of, I mean, numbers that we could attach to this, which kind of aided in Q1 and numbers, sir, this locus impact on corresponding sales?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveI don't think so the locust impact would have impacted our numbers directly. But overall, there is an aggressive agrochemical consumption in the market in the fields by the government, by the farmer to deal with the locust attack. So that vacuum in the market would have certainly impacted our portfolio, our revenues also indirectly.
Somaiah Valliyappan
analystGot it, sir. And also the reason -- in across regions, we have done well, but specifically south, though relatively a smaller base, but there has been quite a sizable jump. So any color on that front in terms of southern markets, anything that you are seeing different this time?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSo southern markets were carryforward impact of good rainfalls in the previous rabi. So previous rabi resulted in good waters in the dams, good groundwater, good sowing in December, January, and which was the carryforward impact of the consumption going into April and May.
Somaiah Valliyappan
analystOkay. Got it. Sir, also, is there any element of prebuying because of this COVID impact that you are able to see from the market? I mean a sense of urgency on products not being available. That is probably pulling forward some of the sales. Is it something that you could fix from later on?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveI think so in April and May, I would say that there was a color of that too, apart from increased sowing because increased sowing itself consumed the products, absence of labor consumed the products. But also there must have been some impact of the feeling of shortage or unavailability, resulting in preponement or aggressive lifting of material by the channel as well as by the farmers.
Operator
operatorNext question is from the line of Vishnu Kumar from Spark Capital.
Vishnu Kumar A.S.
analystThanks for the follow-up. You mentioned about direct-seeded rice. If you could just explain like conventional method is for direct-seeded rice, how much would probably a farmer incrementally has to buy agrochemical per acre? If, let's say, we are spending INR 200, now how much would you be expecting?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveWow, no, that's a difficult one. If per acre farmer is spending INR 200 in 1 type, then what's the differential delta in the other one? I won't be able to address that right away, Vishnu. I'll have to come back on that one. Theoretically speaking, in the past, direct-seeded rice has been our preferred choice in water-stressed pockets. And this is also called as upland agriculture. However, as the water tables depleted in Godavari and even in Punjab, Haryana, then the government started promoting direct-seeded rice varieties and farmer also lapped it up. So the major challenge in direct-seeded rice is weeds. So farmer certainly needs to go for a weedy side application, extra weedy side round in direct-seeded rice. That is for sure. But what are the overall economics, I'll have to check that.
Vishnu Kumar A.S.
analystBecause of labor shortage, do you think the direct-seeded rice acreage has materially shot up this time around?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYou'll have to repeat that. You're not audible.
Vishnu Kumar A.S.
analystI'm sorry. Because of the labor shortage, we understand that the direct-seeded rice acreage has materially shot up compared to the conventional because of lack of labor. Is that the right understanding?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes. That's the right understanding that the direct-seeded rice went up substantially due to shortage of labor. But in many pockets, the farmer was not trained or not capable to deal with that shift. So in many areas, as the labor inflow started, as the labor restored or by mechanical tools, farmer removed the direct-seeded rice and went back to conventional paddy or shifted to another crop. That also happened in the month of June. However, in April, May, the shift was significant. It was really very high.
Vishnu Kumar A.S.
analystOkay. Got it, sir. Sir, my second question would be that…
Operator
operatorMr. Kumar, I'm sorry to interrupt. Requesting you to please speak a bit louder, sir. Your audio is not audible.
Vishnu Kumar A.S.
analystOkay. My next question is just on the diversification plans. Is there any plan to invest in any technical plants? I mean you've spoken about in the past that we'll come back to you at a certain time. But are there any serious plans to get into because at the end of the day, then again, we are rainfall dependent and as you did mention that there is a little bit of cyclicality. Anything that we would do to reduce this cyclicality?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSee, our technical plant doesn't change much unless it is an export-oriented technical plant. Then it is just derisking it from the Indian monsoons and betting on the rainfall or the agriculture of the international markets. So to that extent, it does not -- the technical plants do not define the monsoon trends. But coming back to the diversification plans, as of now, I have thing to add there.
Operator
operatorExcuse me, sir?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes, I can hear you.
Operator
operatorYes. Can we proceed to the next question?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes, please.
Operator
operatorFrom the line of [ Rikin Shah ] from Phoenix Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystI would just like to ask you about your interpretation on the pesticide management, sir, and more specifically how are unorganized versus organized, and the chemical industry plan by the Government of India?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveOrganized versus unorganized, and the second one was?
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, the new chemical industry plan okayed by the Government of India?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveNo, you are not audible. I'm not getting you.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, basically, I'm asking, sir, how do you see the unorganized shifting to organized after the Pesticide Management Bill, sir?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So Pesticide Management Bill is certainly going to make it stiffer and stringent when it comes to the unorganized sector, but largely for the fly by night operator or spurious product manufacturers. And that was kind of really long-awaited stringent action required against these spurious product manufacturers. Regulations to be put in place in the type of quality laboratories they should have. For example, for Dhanuka, all our laboratories -- testing laboratories are NABL accredited. And whereas the licenses go out -- agrochemical licenses go out to nonexisting labs also. So PMB will certainly be impacting that favorably, in favor of the organized sector. And I think so because of this, there will be a shift towards branded products and towards the branded organizations -- a brand-driven organization. So farmer will go for a brand recall and pick up the product accordingly. And in that, the regulation, the local authority, the government would be backing us up with the PMB.
Unknown Analyst
analystAll right, sir. And second question would be, sir, how would your distribution be different from PI Industries and Insecticides, like those companies also have heavy distribution in India like yours?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight, right. So in fact, I won't be able to comment on what kind of a distribution they have and plans. But in recent past, what we have done is we have kind of consolidated the distribution and trying to service the second layer. So from 8,500 channel partners, we have reduced to 6,500, cutting down the tail significantly over the last 3 years. And we are trying to promote the next level of interior retailers through our selected distributors. So the idea is to catch the secondary sales. The idea is to influence the deeper hinterlands, the deeper rural belt. We claim ourselves to be rural FMCG. We would really want Dhanuka to be available on every access point of the farmer.
Unknown Analyst
analystAll right, sir. So basically, the way forward, would it be getting more from the current distribution or expanding because we have consolidated?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSo it will go both ways. We'll be expanding in the right markets wherever we find we are relatively less represented or our market share needs a push. And we will be pushing aggressively for the secondary sale reach out wherever we find ourselves on the strong footing on the primary front.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Rohit Nagraj from Sunidhi Securities.
Rohit Nagraj
analystYes. Sir, just one question in terms of strategy. So whenever we are introducing any new products, so what is our strategy? There may be some incumbents in similar category, so are we targeting maybe in the initial phase some kind of pricing power over the competitors? Or we are primarily making use of our expanded distribution reach through the farmer doctors, et cetera?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveOkay. So there are 3 things which we largely try to leverage. One is our understanding of the emerging opportunity. Second is accessibility of the new technology. And third is leveraging our distribution channel. So while trying to leverage the -- first of all, I'll talk about the emerging opportunity. So for example, in Madhya Pradesh, in soybean markets, there was a trend at the farmer in Malwa belt in Ujjain, Indore area, they started shifting towards pre-emergent herbicide. So we really tried and source Dabooch as an access point for the pre-emergent herbicide in soybean. In terms of accessing new technology, so Largo, which is a product from Corteva, is a very, very powerful and ecofriendly and almost bioproduct to control Lepidopteran pests and it's a very, very powerful technology, which we source from Corteva. And third is, of course, introducing a product to leverage our channel and make that product reach into wider corners of the country, which we find we can do exceedingly well because of our channel network. So we leverage these 3 things, and we weigh the options across these 3 while we introduce a new product.
Rohit Nagraj
analystSir, normally, how is the competition across these products? I mean there are very few players in the category? Or there are many players, but these are regional-specific players or probably don't have the kind of wide distribution reach as we have?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveNormally, we try to introduce products, which -- where many players are not present.
Rohit Nagraj
analystOkay. Okay. And sir, last clarification. Do you have any biologicals just now in our portfolio? And are there any plans to introduce them in the coming future?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveThere are a couple of biologicals in our portfolio, yes. We introduced a product last year itself, Mycor, and Largo from Corteva is also biological, and we are aggressively looking at offering these options also to our consumer aggressively.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Viraj Kacharia from Securities Investment Management.
Viraj Kacharia
analystYes. I just had one follow-up question. You talked about 2 new innovative products, which we launch under 9(3). So who are the innovators who -- in those new products?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. So NISSO DELAN, which is a grapes powdery mildew fungicide comes from Nippon Soda, Japan, and Kirari, which is a downy mildew product, again for grapes and potato, comes from Nissan Chemicals, Japan.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Rohan Gupta from Edelweiss.
Rohan Gupta
analystSir, my first question is on this China, and we have seen recently that because of the increasing tension at border, that raw material availability from China. And I think that custom clearing and port clearing was getting continuously delayed. How is the scenario now? And do you see that in a current scenario of kharif crop, there is going to be some shortage of the raw material coming from China, which can have impact on our business?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveAs such, our business is not that dependent on Chinese import significantly. Our strategic products and initiatives come largely from our Japanese principles. Yes, the impact for overall Chinese imports was there and that has sorted out significantly faster due to intervention on both the sides. And I think so in last 20 days, nothing has actually even delayed, not stopped -- forget stop, not even delayed. So things are moving really fast now at the port end also. The congestion at Indian ports is certainly a cause of concern, and the channel -- the custom clearance is slow. Overall, the custom clearance is slow.
Rohan Gupta
analystOkay. So materials, at least at the port end and supply from China has resumed and there is nothing further?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveThat's right. That's right.
Rohan Gupta
analystOkay. And sir, second question is that we have definitely, on the name of biopesticides and all spurious products, that will be close to INR 4,000 crores plus sort of market has been developed in India, which primarily was due to materials or ingredients coming from China only and was using some spurious chemicals on the name of biopesticide, everybody knows about it. Do you see that the current year, that market has been significantly impacted and also the pesticide bill, and along with the raw material ability from China and also that credit conditions which have been -- were in the market, because of all these reasons that biopesticide market, which was a fairly large market, has been impacted in the current year and beneficiary will be companies like us in the current scenario?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveI think so, yes. The spurious market has been badly impacted because of the corona-impacted lockdowns and then subsequent crackdowns on imports and micro investigation or micro assessment of all Chinese imports. So that will certainly impact the spurious or the unregulated market. So that should favorably impact the organized sector and the branded companies.
Rohan Gupta
analystOkay. Is the impact is already visible, sir? I mean have you seen that those products are now off-the-shelf from the small dealers, retailers or they are still very much there?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSo what I'm trying to do is only extrapolate here, Rohan, because as I shared with you, the market accessibility has not yet opened up. There are district level lockdowns or market associations have imposed their own lockdowns where company people are not being allowed easy access into the markets. So that visibility is not very loud and clear. I'm just extrapolating given the fact that my other peers have also informed a brisk movement in the quarter. And I have seen unprecedented movement in this quarter. These leaves me -- takes me to believe that there is a supply shortage from the unorganized sector. And this is what my channel also informs me in my telephonic and Zoom interaction that such supplies and spurious supplies and so-called bioproduct supplies is seriously impacted.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of S. Ramesh from Nirmal Bang.
S. Ramesh
analystMy first thought was on the balance sheet. What is the kind of CapEx you plan to invest this year and what is the impact of the sharp growth in revenue on your working capital?
Vinod Bansal
executiveYou see, as far as CapEx is concerned, not really significantly. It would be normal CapEx between INR 5 crores to INR 10 crores in this financial year.
S. Ramesh
analystAnd what about the impact on working capital because you've seen your revenue go up so much?
Vinod Bansal
executiveWorking capital has improved quarter 1 significantly by 15 days.
S. Ramesh
analystSo you expect that to continue for the rest of the year?
Vinod Bansal
executiveIt should continue, but not exactly in the same speed.
S. Ramesh
analystOkay. And in terms of the distribution costs, do you see any room for improvement in the distribution costs for the industry or for your own company? Or is there a potential for actually the cost to go up because everybody is sensing an opportunity and the cost of reaching to the farmer and getting that mind share is possibly increasing. So what is your thought on the trend in the distribution cost over time?
Vinod Bansal
executiveWhen you are saying distribution cost means what? What exactly you are looking for?
S. Ramesh
analystSir, basically, in terms of your marketing and distribution costs?
Vinod Bansal
executiveMarketing and distribution costs?
S. Ramesh
analystYes.
Vinod Bansal
executiveLargely, it would remain as per the last year percentage. This year, there are certain changes in certain heads, and we are spending more than the industry this year. In terms of percentage, it will be largely same as per the last year.
S. Ramesh
analystOkay. Okay, sir. That means if you're able to control your raw material costs and if you're able to grow your revenue, you should be able to maintain your EBITDA margins going forward. That's what you're saying?
Vinod Bansal
executiveYes, absolutely.
S. Ramesh
analystCongratulations and all the best.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Saurabh Kapadia from Asian Markets Securities.
Saurabh Kapadia
analystSir, first on the in-licensing of products. So all the products which we are going to in-license in FY '21, are they exclusive to Dhanuka or there will be some other company as well?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveSo we are introducing 2 products, NISSO DELAN and Kirari, which are 9(3) introductions for the year. These are exclusive for Dhanuka.
Saurabh Kapadia
analystOkay. And, sir, are the 2 products you've already launched in this quarter? So…
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveYes. The 2 herbicides, which we introduced, Dozo Maxx and Dabooch, these are nonexclusive. These are in-license, nonexclusive.
Saurabh Kapadia
analystOkay. And sir, what would be the size of the 9(3) products like we are launching? So maybe a peak potential sales for those products, maybe 2 or 3 years down the line, what could be the size for those products?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveRight. I'm not sharing those numbers on the call.
Saurabh Kapadia
analystOkay. And sir, just one more thing. On the co-marketing in the Maharashtra, so that has begun from 2020. So how much was the revenue in this quarter? Probably really last year, it was -- it would be again revenue in this quarter, it would have been some contribution from that part of the portfolio as well?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveI think so we try to put behind that memory itself. So we have not really assessed how much is the impact of that. So yes, of course, that has been favorable.
Saurabh Kapadia
analystOkay. So in the range of 5% to 10%, that would be a fair assessment?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveCould be, could be for that one state. Yes, for Maharashtra alone, yes.
Operator
operatorThank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that is the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Manish Mahawar for closing comments.
Manish Mahawar
analystYes. Thank you, Janice. On behalf of Antique Stock Broking, I would like to thank the team of Dhanuka Agritech for providing us an opportunity to host the call. Dhanuka, would you like to make any closing comments, sir?
Mahendra Dhanuka
executiveOnly thing is that as per information, the rainfall of long period average is 10% higher in comparison to last year till 15th of July and the swing is around 21% higher in comparison to last year. And the groundwater is also higher and results are all full with the water. So irrigation facilities are available and farmers reaped a good harvest in the rabi crop and they get good price also. So that way, farmers are having ample money in their pocket and they are ready to spend more money to safeguard their crop from pests and diseases in this kharif also. So we are hopeful that rest of the season also, we will be able to grow significantly, and this will be a, basically, golden year for Dhanuka after a long time. It was a historical, basically, quarter for Dhanuka because never in the history we have grown by 70% in earlier times. So this was the first quarter. So let us hope that this momentum continues, and we are able to deliver to the expectation of the market. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you. On behalf of Antique Stock Broking, that concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
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