Diploma PLC (DPLM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 18, 2023

London Stock Exchange GB Industrials Trading Companies and Distributors trading_statement 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, and welcome to the Diploma Q1 Trading Update Call. This conference is being recorded. I will now hand over to Johnny Thomson, Chief Executive. Please go ahead.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#2

Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us on our quarter 1 update call. I'm here with Chris Davies, our CFO. The agenda for this morning, I'll say about 5 minutes worth of comments on our strategy on the quarter 1 performance and a few words on the outlook at the end. And of course, we'll do questions after that. So to start with a quick reminder of our strategy, which is to build high-quality, scalable businesses for sustainable organic growth, we do that by focusing on diversifying our specialized business revenues to drive organic growth, to build scale and increase resilience. That diversification strategy entails driving great exposure to high growth end segments, penetrating further our core geographies and expanding addressable markets with new product. Alongside that, we're also progressing our scaling journey. We're developing the business' operating model, so they can execute their value-add customer proposition at scale, and that value-add model drives for us customer loyalty and, therefore, share of wallet. It drives for us reputation and, therefore, market share potential and, of course, it drives for us pricing power and margins. At the same time, we're building the structure, the capability and culture of the group for sustainable delivery. And together, this strategy, therefore, will continue to deliver in the future on the group's long-term excellent track record of compounding 15% EPS growth. So now the first quarter, we're very, very pleased with another strong quarter for us. Organic growth was 10%. The demand environment remains largely positive. We're seeing encouraging trends across all the sectors, similar to what we saw in the old year. We continue to drive the organic revenue diversification initiatives I've just been talking about. And indeed, we come into quarter 2 continuing to see very, very good trading. So we feel very positive about growth -- organic growth. Reported revenue growth was 30%, another a very good number, reflecting, again, the contribution from the high-quality acquisitions we did last year, particularly R&G and Accuscience. And of course, we've got some FX tailwind in there, too. A few words on the M&A environment. As we said in November, market conditions mean that it's more important than ever for us that we retain our discipline, and we have done. We don't feel under pressure to acquire businesses because of the great organic growth potential we have. But having said that, we continue to do the small stuff, the Diploma style deals, which support organic growth. We did 5 in the second half of last year, if you remember from our November update. In quarter 2, we had another 2 small, $7 million, but very, very attractive valuations. And we want to expand this small deal approach across more of our business lines in the future. The immediate pipeline for the next few months looks encouraging. And actually, as we step out of that into slightly bigger or medium-sized deals for us, the pipeline is also surprisingly active. Our operating margin in the quarter is strong and consistent with the guidance. As we've said to you before, we continue to see the benefits to margin of scale. We continue to drive performance activity, which helps us to see our operational disruption and installation. And as per our margin formula, we reinvest some of those upsides into the scaling activity to sustain the model that I talked about a little earlier. So very, very strong quarter, and we're pleased with it. In terms of the outlook, it's been a strong start to the year, but we're not complacent about the potential for a tougher environment ahead. We feel the model is resilient, and the strategy makes us more so. Continued revenue diversification, of course, brings with it resilience. The value-add servicing components to our model supports pricing power and margins through cycles, and we have very, very strong cash flow dynamics as well. So we feel the model is resilient. And as I said, it's early days, but a strong first quarter performance underpins our confidence in the full year guidance that we set out in November, which is double-digit revenue growth, mid-single-digit organic half 1 weighted, plus 6%-ish from acquisitions and a strong operating margin in the range of 18% to 19%. So a good start, and reinforcing our guidance for the full year. And I'll take your questions.

Operator

operator
#3

[Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from James Rosenthal from Barclays.

James Rosenthal

analyst
#4

Just 2 for me, please. First of all, could you give us an indication of volume and price within that 10% organic, please? And then secondly, could you talk through Controls in a bit more detail? Presumably, volumes are still very strong in Windy City, despite the tougher comps.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#5

Yes. I mean, volume and price, well, the 10% is mostly volume, a little bit of mix and a little bit of price in there as well, obviously. I feel like most of our significant pricing increases from a supply chain and product perspective were quite a long time ago now, and we're kind of lapping beyond that. So price is becoming a lower component of our growth, albeit with still some price to cover wage inflation. What's really encouraging, therefore, is that we're still seeing very, very good volume growth, which, I think, is partly supported by an encouraging demand environment, but I think mostly driven by the activity that we're driving across the sector to diversify and scale up the businesses. So we feel really, really encouraged about that. From a Controls perspective, look, I mean, last year's organic growth in Controls was 24%, which was an exceptional performance. It's not growing in the first quarter by quite that amount, not because anything has changed from a trading perspective, maybe just a little bit tougher comparators, but the trading is still very, very strong in Controls. Windy City Wire, consistent with the way it finished last year, which is really, really encouraging, of course. But also, as we've said to you before, one of the advantages to the diversification is that we've got some great end segment exposures. And the control -- international Controls business continues to benefit from the likes of exposure to energy, to aerospace, to defense. And even, as I said, in November to electrification in some of these newer end segments we're looking at. So there's great structural growth trends, which is supporting a consistently high growth across the Controls businesses.

Operator

operator
#6

The next question comes from Sylvia Barker from JPMorgan.

Sylvia Barker

analyst
#7

Well, a similar question to Control. So I guess, if you can just talk about the other 2 businesses maybe relative to how they did last year and what you're seeing by region as well within those.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#8

Okay. We'll talk about -- I think I've just talked about Controls. We're talking about the other 2. I mean, Seals was very, very similar. I mean, last year, yes, remember, we're only 2 months on from when we last talked to you, so not a lot has changed, really. But last year, we did organic growth in Seals of 14%. So a very, very pleasing number. We're still seeing very, very high growth rates in Seals, which is fantastic. The work that we've done in North America with Louisville to transition to a new distribution facility is continuing to support market share gains in North America. Our new acquisition in the U.K., I think a year ago, R&G has seen fantastic organic growth since it came into the group in April, May time, and that continues to flourish into the quarter. And we're seeing pretty strong performances across the rest of Seals. So still very, very good growth rates there. Life Sciences, as we've talked about, was slower last year mainly driven by -- or party driven by much, much fewer surgical procedures across international health care systems. I think, as I said in November, we expected a quarter or 2 of continued sluggishness, let's say. And Life Sciences has been broadly flattish in the first quarter, absolutely as we expected. What we do expect now is to see that starting to tick up. The surgical procedures are improving. They're not at pre-COVID levels yet, but they are improving, which is encouraging. And therefore, our growth rates coming into quarter 2 are starting to tick up. So I would expect, by the time we get into certainly the second half, that Life Sciences will be a fantastic contributor to the group's full year growth. And don't forget also, longer term, we're very excited about it because of the backlog of surgical procedures, which will have to unwind over the coming years, but also because, importantly, of the increased investments into the diagnostics space, which supports the other half of our health care businesses. So I think we're starting to get into a place now where Life Sciences is going to be a big contributor to growth, short and long term.

Sylvia Barker

analyst
#9

Very helpful. And just my second one. Could you maybe provide a rough bridge, just broadly, to the various impacts on the margin year-on-year in full year '23 versus '22 in those buckets? If we think about, I guess, any potential negative impact year-on-year on some pricing becoming just a little bit less prominent compared to operating leverage compared to, I guess, the small drag from your reinvestment as well.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#10

Okay. I mean, we're tactically ahead of [indiscernible] a little bit here. We've done 2 years' worth of just under 19% margin. And through those 2 years, of course, with the extremities of particularly supply chain and product inflation, we've managed to maintain our margin through our pricing activity. Our pricing activity is supported, of course, by the value-add proposition and what that gives us in terms of customer loyalty and, therefore, supporting our ability to be able to pass on price. My comment about less price is not about -- it's not a factor of the fact that we're going to under recover. It's just the fact that inflation is going down. So there will be less of inflation. But there's less pricing. But that doesn't mean that, that had an effect on our margin. Actually, we've, I think, quoted here 18% to 19%. So broadly, we're expecting consistent margins -- strong margins going into the year ahead. Perhaps you're a little newer to our story. So just to reiterate the margin formula, of course, we see inflation with price. But longer term, the formula says that the benefits of scaling our business will flow to margin. The performance improvement from our action will flow to margin, but we will incrementally and quietly reinvest those upsides into the longer-term development of our businesses as they scale. And therefore, we seek to maintain high margins over the long term, and that's really the way we see margin. I don't think there's anything different in this year's margin from that longer-term perspective.

Operator

operator
#11

[Operator Instructions] We'll take the next question from David Brockton from Numis.

David Brockton

analyst
#12

Can I ask a couple around acquisitions, please? Firstly, I think you touched on the fact that you want to expand the small deal approach across the business. I guess, you were sort of referring to how successful R&G is performing there. Are there any other businesses that sort of could naturally replicate that? And any changes you need to make elsewhere across the business? That's the first question.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#13

Yes, that's a great question. And we're quite excited about it, really, because I guess it's about, as the businesses get bigger, they build the capability to be able to do the very, very small stuff for themselves, stuff that maybe at Diploma PLC level, we wouldn't necessarily see or have the resource to get to. And that means as those businesses build capability, it gives us access to those smaller deals and allows them to accelerate their growth strategy. And generally speaking, it allows us to do a very, very low multiples and, therefore, a fantastic returns. R&G have come with a track record of being able to do that and have bought a number of very small businesses since we acquired R&G in April, so that's exciting. We've been doing it -- actually, we have been doing -- we've done one, I think, in Techsil, our specialty adhesive business. And if you remember, that was a product adjacency that we're building out in Controls. And therefore, to be able to add to it is exciting, and they've got more in their pipeline that they can do. There are -- I think -- I can think, off the top of my head, there are 2 or 3 other businesses that over the next 6 months, I think, can replicate that. And of course, over time, we would carefully like to expand that capability into more of our businesses. It's something, of course, that we have to do with some care, some caution and some oversight to make sure that we have the capability to get it right. So we'll build out gradually over time, but I think it would be great for us if that level of very small deals could just increase in volume over time, and that would be a huge value driver for the group's future.

David Brockton

analyst
#14

Great. And the second question sort of almost relates to that. Presumably, as you develop that capability, the sort of the competition for these deals is less. But I just wondered more broadly if you could just talk about how the sort of competitive landscape for M&A is looking at the moment given the sort of the changes in interest rates, et cetera.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#15

Yes, yes. We'll have that very small level. I mean, generally, we're talking about -- probably, I should just say we're talking about deals in the $5 million sort of bracket, maybe between $0 and $10 million. So we're talking about very, very small stuff, and they will almost entirely be exclusive one-on-one processes. So that's that. To your broader question, I suppose -- we talked about it in a bit in November. Debt markets, et cetera, will it affect valuations? Will there be less deal processes, et cetera? And I think the answer to that is there probably has been a little bit less. But I suppose we've been quite surprised by how much activity there still is. And so our pipeline in that kind of, I guess, I don't know the right word, but medium size for us, let's say $0 to $100 million or something around, $0 to $150 million, and that kind of medium-sized sweet spot, the pipeline is surprisingly active. I don't -- one of the challenges here is that everyone automatically relates debt markets must equal cheaper deals. The reality is that, yes, there might be a turn or maybe 2 here and there, but great businesses are not going to go on cheap. And so I'm not going to sit and promise that we'll do deals, and there'll be half the multiple because I think that would be churlish. Might they be a little cheaper than they were a year ago, I would hope so. But I think it's more about the pipeline of activity. And as I said, I've been surprised that the pipeline is as active as it is.

Operator

operator
#16

The next question comes from Daniel Cowan from HSBC.

Daniel Thomas Cowan

analyst
#17

I just have a question about, I guess, the -- how you sort of see the U.S. construction outlook. There's a lot of talk about some slowdowns in some areas, but there's huge amounts of investment coming through in other areas, in nonresidential construction. How do the guys at Windy City Wire think about that? Are they looking at it? So the prospect of some of these big infrastructure projects coming through, is it not relevant at all? Can you just perhaps give us an idea of how we should think about what's going on in the U.S. and with all of these various government-driven investment programs and how that might help you in both Controls and, I guess, also in Seals?

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#18

Yes. I mean, I guess, it's quite challenging when to call, isn't it, just from a market perspective. I mean, increasingly, we read more positive news than negative about the U.S. economy, in general. I'm no economist, just to make this clear, but I suppose the kind of -- there seems to be a bit more talk about softer landings than harder landings in recent times. From a construction perspective, I hear people talking about residential being slower versus commercial still being very, very strong. And I think the point for us is really -- it's a little bit Windy City, although Windy City tends to be a bit more into refurbishment of automated office facilities. From a pure construction perspective, it's a bit more about our Seals business in the U.S. And the Seals business is still growing very, very well. Now will the residential market cool off a little bit? And could that have an effect on mobile machinery repair? Maybe. But to your point, we still see very, very good levels of activity within the repair shop market, very strong. And we feel that there has to be -- and there is already starting to be some impact from the projects driven out of the infrastructure bill. It's quite difficult for us to see through the repair shop into what the end market is actually doing, but we certainly feel that there are some benefits to that. And that particular business in North America is still growing very, very strongly. So I don't know what the cycle is going to look like, but I do think there are some favorable market aspects like that infrastructure bill, which can keep the end market volumes. And of course, don't forget, on top of that, we've got our own activity to keep driving growth as well, particularly the market share gains that we can drive in -- across different regions of the U.S.

Operator

operator
#19

The next question comes from Kean Marden from Jefferies.

Kean Marden

analyst
#20

I've got a couple of quick ones on Life Sciences, if I may. I appreciate it can be a lumpy business, and this is just one quarter. But if you can give a bit of insight into how much the delayed shipments impacted the organic revenue growth for that business in the first quarter and just confirm that all came back in January, that would be helpful. And then, Johnny, Sodexo have flagged that their retail sales in hospitals picked up in the November quarter, which suggests, at least for their business, that maybe surgical procedures or visits to hospitals has been picking up. So is there a reason why you wouldn't necessarily be seeing that in your Life Sciences business at the moment and why it would be delayed by a quarter or 2? And then just a quick question on headcount. So with labor markets easing a little bit, are there any parts of the business where you feel that resourcing constraints are now lifting and that's being helpful for you?

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#21

I'm going to take them in reverse order, if that's okay. For headcount perspective, I mean, I think the -- what we've seen is last summer was, really, for us where we felt the tightest labor markets, most difficult to attract and retain around about last summer. I think as the year progressed into the fall, into autumn, we saw that easing quite a bit. I suppose for us, and again, I'm no economist, but savings rate dropped quite a bit, cost of living going up, people coming back into the workforce post COVID, et cetera, et cetera, particularly U.S. I'm talking about now. We just saw quite a significant easing. So we haven't felt any headcount pressures or labor challenges, I would say, for 4 or 5 months. Clearly, there is cost of living and, therefore, wage inflation pressure, but that's a slightly different thing. And we are currently passing that on with the appropriate pricing activity, as you would expect. But there's no pressure on headcount at the moment from our perspective. The surgical procedures, but yes, I think, I said, I mean, we -- you have to -- you're making quite a jump there between Sodexo and foodservice and surgical procedures. Put it this way, their business could be jumping up because there's more people going into hospital with flu and COVID, which doesn't help surgical procedures. So it could be the opposite. But as I said a minute ago, actually, we are seeing surgical procedures more generally stepping up. It's gradual because the health care systems globally don't necessarily solve a massive staff shortage overnight. We were just reviewing the Life Sciences businesses yesterday, and the general view is that, across the patch, we're at about 85% to 90% of pre-COVID surgical levels. So that's encouraging, and that means the performance of Life Sciences is stepping up. And as I said, we expect quarter 2 to be a little better. And I'm giving ourselves a bit of breathing space by saying have to -- we expect to be back to really, really good growth, not forgetting, of course, that we've got fabulous diagnostics businesses, which are also firing on all cylinders. I don't really get the delayed shipments point. I mean, I think there is an aspect in Life Sciences right now, which is very, very particular from a supply chain perspective, which is post COVID, demand is starting to come back in that whole investment into research, testing, development and investment moving out of COVID and into other areas of health care, which is a bit of pressure -- demand pressure onto some of the suppliers. And therefore, there is a bit of an extension in the lead times. But I don't think it's anything more than some months worth before it unwinds. And I certainly think that it won't be anything, which will significantly or materially derail our second half growth.

Operator

operator
#22

We will take the next question from Ben Wild from Deutsche Bank.

Ben Wild

analyst
#23

A quick question just on inventories. At full year results, you flagged an inventory buildup, and we can see that taking place across the industry. Are you unwinding that buildup now? How quickly can it be unwound? And are you seeing the wider inventory buildup have any effects on the wider market?

Chris Davies

executive
#24

Ben, it's Chris. Let me take that. So in our old inventory, as we said at the full year, look, it's a little higher than we'd ideally like. And we've got plans in place that we actually need to bring that down. It's not a material -- it's not -- there's not a material change required, but we've got to just tighten up around the edges, which we're doing, and that's fine. In the wider demand environment, are we seeing people suddenly slowing down orders to sell from the stock? No. As we said at the full year, is it likely there is a slightly innovated inventory picture out there somewhere? Look, it still probably is. That is not materially changing order books, order backlogs or order patterns at the moment.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#25

Well, just remembering on the inventory, no, I mean, I think we do -- customer fulfillment is important to us, so we do put a bit more money into inventory, and that's still -- we still support that. It is the right thing to do. We have to be cautious about this because we want to -- as perhaps demand looks -- it could soften a fraction over the coming months, of course, we want to [ blaze ] out in line with that, but we're still growing at 10%. And the last thing we want to do is to get in the way of either customer fulfillment or growth.

Ben Wild

analyst
#26

Sure. And then just a second question following up on that demand point, obviously, you're flagging this morning that demand environment remains very strong, and we can see that in the prints this morning. Thinking forward to the second half, where there seems to remain to be a degree of caution on your commentary, how do we get from this very strong demand environment currently to a potentially weaker demand environment in the second half? And how much visibility do you have on that over the coming months?

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#27

Look, if you were in my position, what would you do? Look, I mean, everyone is out there talking about a [indiscernible] market ahead. Everyone is out there calling things down. Everyone is out there talking about data points and indicators. Do you think we're going to be overly bullish about the second half? I mean, 6 months out in this environment right now is a long way, right? So might we do better than that? I bloody well hope so. But quite honestly, I don't think we're the ones that are going to be calling out the second half until we get closer to it and see the way that macroeconomics play out. And there's nothing more scientific than that. There is nothing in our numbers today, which suggests that half 2 is going to be very, very hard. But I think we now all have to anticipate that there's been a very [ buoyant ] demand environment for some time, and that's not going to continue forever.

Operator

operator
#28

That will conclude today's Q&A session. I would now like to hand back to Johnny for closing remarks.

Jonathan Thomson

executive
#29

Yes, not much to say, really. Strategy is clear, and we feel it's progressing. Quarter 1, strong performance. We've got a very, very positive outlook for the full year, and we feel like we can continue to deliver Diploma's track record of compounding very, very strong EPS growth. Thank you very much for joining the call. Look forward to seeing you soon.

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