Dollar Industries Limited (DOLLAR.NS) Q1 FY2026 Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 12, 2025

NSEI IN Consumer Discretionary Textiles, Apparel and Luxury Goods Earnings Calls 54 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

Operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Dollar Industries Q1 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call hosted by Motilal Oswal Financial Services. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Sumant Kumar from Motilal Oswal. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Sumant Kumar

Analysts
#2

Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and very warm welcome to Dollar Industries Q1 FY '26 Post Results Earnings Call hosted by Motilal Oswal Finance Services Limited. On the call today, we have management team being represented by Mr. Ankit Gupta, President, Marketing; Mr. Gaurav Gupta, Vice President, Strategy; and Mr. Ajay Patodia, CFO. We'll begin the call with key thoughts from the management team. Thereafter, we'll open the floor for the Q&A session. I would now like to request the management team to share their perspective on the performance of the company. Thank you, and over to the management team. Thank you.

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#3

Thank you, Sumant. Good afternoon, everyone, and a warm welcome to you all. Thank you for joining us today for the Dollar Industries Q1 FY '26 Earnings Investor Call. Gaurav and I will walk you through the business and operational highlights of the quarter, while our CFO, Mr. Ajay Patodia, will share the financial metrics. Before we move into the financial results and operational highlights for Q1 FY '26, we would like to express our sincere gratitude to our shareholders, analysts and stakeholders for joining us today. Your continued support and engagement remains invaluable as we navigate both the opportunities and challenges within our industry. We would also like to draw your attention to the safe harbor statement included in the earnings call presentation. We request all participants to review it before the Q&A session begins. Let me start with the broader picture. The outlook for the Indian apparel industry remains strong with its market size estimated at $108 billion in FY '25, and it's expected to grow at a healthy 9% CAGR until FY '31. This momentum is being driven by rising incomes, higher discretionary spending and greater access to products through e-commerce and quick commerce. With our strong brand presence, expanding reach and focus on premiumization, Dollar Industries is in a great position to capitalize on these opportunities. Importantly, we have not been impacted by the recent tariffs imposed by the United States as we have no exposure to the U.S. market. With a favorable industry trend, we have delivered a strong start to the year with operating income for Q1 FY '26 reaching INR 399 crores, representing a healthy 19.6% year-on-year growth. Volumes increased by 18.7% compared to Q1 FY '25. Our premium segment continued their strong growth trajectory, delivering 24% year-on-year value growth and 19.4% year-on-year volume growth with the average selling price rising 3.8% year-on-year. Force NXT recorded 21.5% year-on-year value growth and 18% year-on-year volume growth. Our athleisure segment grew 14.3% year-on-year, reflecting strong demand for versatile apparel. India's athleisure market valued at $13.15 billion in 2024 is projected to grow at 5.5% CAGR, indicating a promising long-term opportunity. These results reflect our strategic focus on driving growth through premiumization and enhancing the revenue contribution from high-margin products, which is positively influencing our ASPs. Additionally, stable raw material prices are expected to support and further strengthen our margins going forward. We would also like to draw your attention to our cash conversion cycle, which stood at 173 days in June '25. This is primarily due to two factors. First, Quarter 1 is typically the smallest quarter of the year and for calculation purposes, the Q1 FY '26 revenue has been annualized, which mathematically inflates the number of days. Second, the higher inventory levels reflects the production of thermals for the upcoming 2 quarters, which are higher value products. We remain focused on reducing our cash conversion cycle to around 150 days by the end of this fiscal year, an improvement of approximately 10 days compared to last year. Thank you. Now Gaurav will provide further details on the business and operational highlights of the quarter.

Gaurav Gupta

Executives
#4

Thank you, Ankit. In quarter 1 FY '26, Dollar Industries modern trade, e-commerce and quick commerce channels delivered strong momentum, recording value growth of 65.2% and volume growth of 82% year-on-year. These channels contributed to 12.2% to total revenue, up from 8.7% last year, a rise of 351 basis points. A significant growth driver has been the quick commerce segment, which continues to create new avenues for consumer engagement. We remain highly optimistic about its potential with its contribution to total revenue reaching 3.1% in quarter 1 FY '26. This performance reflects a broader industry shift towards an omnichannel ecosystem driven by a young digitally savvy customer base. Premiumization remains a key trend as consumers seek higher quality and differentiated designs, while D2C and quick commerce are unlocking new growth opportunities. Increasingly, brands are also being evaluated on purpose and sustainability, making it imperative to align with evolving consumer values. Dollar Industries is actively leveraging these shifts to strengthen our market position. The growth prospects are further supported by the rising penetration of online retail in India, expected to increase from 8% of total retail sales in FY '24 to 14% by FY '28. Modern trade and e-commerce channels also enable us to broaden our SKU portfolio, leading to higher ASPs and further supporting our premiumization strategy. Coming to region-wise, Northern India accounted for 45% of total operating revenue, followed by Eastern and Western India 24% each and the Southern India contributed 7% -- our strategic partnership with GT continues to yield strong results with the Peppi Jeans JV delivering a positive PAT in Q1 FY '26, driven by robust growth in modern retail and quick commerce channels. Further, in Q1 FY '26, revenue was INR 12.94 crores, reflecting a 56.6% quarter-on-quarter growth. PAT stood at INR 1.53 crores, up 54.1% quarter-on-quarter with a PAT margin of 11.8%. We plan to introduce a broader product range under the JV in the coming months to further enhance our portfolio and strengthen our market presence. Thank you. I'll now hand over the call to our CFO, Mr. Ajay Patodia, to present the financial metrics.

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#5

Thank you, Gaurav. Good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate you all joining us for our quarter 1 FY '26 earnings call. Before we open the floor for question-and-answer session, I would like to take a moment to walk you through a brief summary of our financial performance for the quarter. I trust you have had a chance to review the earnings presentation and press release. While Ankit ji and Gauroji have already shared their perspective on the broader macroeconomic environment, I will now focus on our financial highlights for the quarter and full fiscal year. In quarter 1 FY '26, our revenue from operations rose by 19.6% year-over-year, reaching INR 399.13 crores. Our gross profit for quarter 1 FY '26 grew by 19% year-over-year to INR 11.48 crores with a gross margin of 35.4%. Our operating EBITDA for quarter 1 FY '26 was INR 42.8 crores with a margin of 12.7%. The EBITDA margin stood at 10.9% in Q1 FY '26. Finally, our profit after tax for the quarter was INR 21.32 crores, growing by 39.3% year-over-year, translating to PAT margin of 5.3%. On the balance sheet front, our net debt reduced from INR 329 crores in March '25 to INR 278 crores as of 30 June '25. We remain committed to further lowering our debt burden with no significant CapEx plan over the next couple of years. The free cash flow generated from operations will be directed towards debt repayment, resulting in lower finance costs and improved profitability. We also generated a free cash flow from operation of close to INR 67 crores in the quarter gone by. Now I would quickly run you through the brand-wise contribution for this quarter. Big B, our Dollar main segment contributed around 40%. Our Dollar Always contributed around 42.3%. Our women's segment Dollar Missy contributed 8%. Railway segment Dollar contribute around 4% and our premium segment Force NXT contributed around 4.2% and our Dollar shops around 2%. We remain firmly committed to our strategic priorities and growth initiatives aimed at driving long-term sustainable profitability. Our focus on premiumization supported by rising contribution from modern trade, e-commerce and qu-commerce. -- will position us well to deliver strong revenue and profit growth this fiscal year and beyond. Thank you all. With this, we will now open the floor for the question and answer.

Operator

Operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Divyansh Thakur from Hillview Global.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#7

First of all, congrats on the great results. So I had a question regarding Project Lakshya. So Project Lakshya contributed 26% in fiscal year '24 and 38% in fiscal year '25. You have said that you target about 70% contribution by fiscal year '26, supported by expansion into Madhya Pradesh and Jharkand. So what are your company's plans or strategies to reach this goal? If you can further.

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#8

So in Q1 FY '26, our overall contribution coming in from Lakshya project was 32% of our total revenue without any increase in the number of distributors. Like I said in the earlier call also, like a call before like year-end call, earnings call, the thing is that due to the intensive competition into the market and with this particular project, it really disrupts the market for a time being. And therefore, in order to save the market share or the shelf space at the MBO point. So we have slowed down, paced it a bit down the implementation of this project. So yes...

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#9

Currently, we are now very aggressive in this project, but we assure that we optimistic we completed the project within 2 years.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#10

If I can follow up, is there -- so if we are going to expand then is there any margins that we are looking at, particularly if we increase the pace of Project Lux by inventory management?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#11

Yes, we already implemented the SAP HANA in our project. And we have the system from -- where we have the data from the Project Lakshya in our system, the system -- DMS system is integrated with our SAP system. So we get the actual quantity, actual quality which is required at every state and in every pin code. So accordingly, we our production and we control our inventory. And for this reason, we expect this year we achieve our target to reduce the working capital days in the current year from 160 to 150.

Operator

Operator
#12

The next question is from the line of Shubhankar Gupta from Equity Capital.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#13

Yes. Actually, I have two questions. So first question is around e-commerce. So what have you done differently over the last 1 or 2 years for the uptick of modern trade and e-commerce channels? That's one. Second is roofing in large towns like Mahesh Babu for South India, South India promotion, has it shown any goodness? And how are we reaching that? So Gaurav, do you want to take this?

Gaurav Gupta

Executives
#14

So in e-commerce, what we have done is we have really given dream into the various portals that are available, say, Mahindra, Flipkart, Amazon. We have decided to tie up and kind of penetrating all the kind of business models that they have to reach the customer and reduce the TAT because in today's world, what happens is the customer is not ready to wait for the product. So they have got different models and different warehouses across India where your product, if it is made available, it reaches the customer at a faster pace. So we have explored that segment in depth. That is about e-commerce. And coming to modern retail LSS channels, we have tied up with Walmart. We have tied up with Spencer. We have even given to V-Mart, V2. So we are expanding our doors with respect to them as well. So this is in regard to the e-commerce and LFS and how we are expanding into them. Coming to about our association with Mahesh Babu as a South Indian brand ambassadors, it definitely has created a buzz in the market. But South India being a very, very tough market because the local brands and the presence is so strong and to change that mindset and to declutter that, it's a long process. So to comment anything in regard if it has actually benefited us in numbers will be a very difficult thing to tell. But it's a long process.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#15

That's fair. So I think in terms of South India, right, as you rightly said, I mean, it's a tough market to penetrate because of local presence. What I'm trying to understand more granularly is how are we that? And let's say, one way could be that in FY '24 or '25 in the midst of that and post that 1 year, let's say, our presence -- our whole revenue from South India was x and now it's Y. So if you could share that number, you could probably give some early signs as to how it's coming along. Ajay, can you share the numbers with them?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#16

Yes. So Subhankar, the thing is that in South India, like Mahesh Babu is -- so first, we have to understand that all the 5 states act very differently, and they have their own set of culture rules and liking, disliking and everything, right? So Mahesh Babu is very famous in the state of Telangana and Andhra Pradesh. He has some kind of a penetration in Karnataka, but not much in Tamil Nadu or Kerala. Mahesh Babu like if you talk about Q1, we have seen Andhra Pradesh growing by around 40%, whereas at a company level, we grew by 19.9%. But in Andhra Pradesh, we grew by 40%. And in Telangana also, we got a good growth, which was somewhere around 20%, 21%. But overall, to see the actual effect of Mahesh Babu in the market, it's a gradual process. So it will happen with time. Maybe in the next couple of years, we'll be able to see a very big change in South India market penetration because we have changed the entire packaging also as per the South India. We have added the local language also in the packaging with Mahir Babu picture and everything. People are liking it. We are getting good feedback from the retail point also like from the MBOs. We are getting a very good feedback about it. So it's just a matter of time, and we are very hopeful that it will take off.

Operator

Operator
#17

The next question is from the line of Sameer Gupta from India Infoline.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#18

Sir, a few -- like last week, your competitor reported Page Industries. And they highlighted that overall industry trends have remained very sluggish. In fact, they themselves saw a very steep moderation. And you have grown 19%. I was looking at Lux Industries number, they have grown at 12%. So just wanted to understand overall industry, like have the competitors exited some markets, which has resulted in you gaining shelf space? Are consumers down trading from higher premium levels to mid-premium levels? Have you seen any increase in receivables this quarter? Just some color on the overall growth performance in industry.

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#19

So see, one thing we need to understand that Page operates in a very different market segment. Their target consumer is very different from our target consumers. So -- and if you see Page Industries, they mainly sell through their EBOs, large-format stores, which is like modern retail, what we call. A great percentage of the sales comes from organized channel and not from trade channel, right? But in our case, mostly our sales comes from trade channel and very less like around 10% to 12% from modern channel, like organized retail, I would say. So there's no down trading happening in the market. Yes, maybe it may happen so that consumer footfall at an EBO level or a large format level might be sluggish, but what we are able to see in the market is we are getting good demand from our distributor point and the MBO point. And even if suppose there was so much sluggishness in the market, then our Lakshya areas would have degrown. But let me give you an example like Haryana, Gujarat or Orissa, where we have 100% rollout done, these states are completely under Lakshya project. And in Gujarat, we have grown by around 25%. Haryana, we have grown by 18%. And Orissa, we have grown by around 20%. So the reason why I'm citing these examples are because whatever the distributor sells to the MBO, we replenish to the distributors on a weekly basis. So this growth signifies that on a secondary level also, the goods are moving and there's no inventory getting stock up at a distributor level. So I wouldn't say that it's very much sluggish when we talk about trade channel.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#20

Got it. So basically, different segments in the market are behaving differently. That would be a -- that may be an interpretation.

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#21

But there's no down trading which is happening. Like a person wearing a Jockey wouldn't be wearing a big boss. He might go and try Force NXT, which is our premium product and equally comparable to Jockey because if you see our Force NXT growth also, we have grown by around 18% this particular quarter.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#22

And how much is Force NXT now for you as a percentage of your sales?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#23

So it's around 4.2% to our total revenue contribution.

Operator

Operator
#24

The next question is from the line of Bhargav from AMBIT Capital Asset Manager.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#25

Sir, my first question is that in the fourth quarter, we did have some additional discounting, which was being done by the industry. Has this discounting started reducing or the intensity still continues to be very high?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#26

Bhargav, the thing is that the competition is still intense in the market. And the thing is that the discounting that we -- the extra schemes and incentives that were given in quarter 4 -- it has started reducing, but not up to an optimum level where we would be telling that we are satisfied with the pricing levels. It is yet to come down. And gradually, I think in a couple of quarters, we should see some changes happening.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#27

Okay. Secondly, sir, we've reduced the debt by about INR 31-odd crores in this quarter. Is it fair to assume that by the year-end, we can reduce about INR 100-odd crores given that free cash flow generation in this quarter was also impressive at about INR 67 crores...

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#28

Yes, Bhargav, we already reduced INR 50 crores, and we are target to reduce more within this year. Our ultimate aim is to -- by FY '28, we have to the company to be net debt free. And already my commentary, our management want to release the working capital and there is no CapEx plan in next two years. So all the release working capital amount is adjusted towards the net debt only. So we are very hopeful that we achieve our target.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#29

And lastly, sir, obviously, we reported very impressive 19% volume growth fair to say that the secondary market has also seen equivalent growth or there is some inventory that the channel may be sitting on given the upcoming festive season?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#30

So it would be a mix of both, I would say. But given the scenario that we have seen in the Lakshya areas, there has been equal amount of growth that we have seen in the secondary market as well because over there in Lakshya areas, we don't stock up inventory at our distributor level, and we don't push our products, right? Whatever they sell to the MBO, we bill it to the distributor on a weekly basis. And seeing that scenario, seeing the secondary data, like billing from distributor to the MBO -- we have seen a good jump in the secondary also. So it would be unfair to say that people have stocked up the goods and we have pushed to them. So I think it would be a blend of the two and more contributed towards the secondary growth only.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#31

In terms of advertising cost, how is the trend on a Y-o-Y basis? Is it falling or it continues to remain on a growth path?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#32

So in Q1, our advertisement cost was somewhere around INR 29 crores with respect to INR 24.5 crores last year. So it's 18% growth. But overall, on a Overall, on a year-on-year basis, like on a full year basis, we'll be capping our advertisement cost to somewhere around INR 85 crores to INR 90 crores... INR 100 crores.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#33

And lastly, in terms of your Lakshya areas, what has been the volume growth? Is it possible to quantify?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#34

So in Lakshya areas, if we talk about all the states who have been rolled out fully, like if you talk about Gujarat, so there, we have seen a volume growth of 25%. Haryana, we have seen 18% Telangana -- sorry, Andhra Pradesh, we have seen around 50% kind of a growth. And if we talk about Orissa, we have seen 21% kind of volume growth. where the project is still ongoing. So there it's somewhere around 12% to 13% kind of a volume growth that we are.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#35

And the working capital in these areas would be how much, sir?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#36

Sorry?

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#37

Lakshya areas, is it fair to assume that the working capital days will be lower?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#38

Yes, definitely. The debtor days in Lakshya is lower than what we see in the normal non-lakshya areas.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#39

Both data and inventory right?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#40

Because inventory -- our sale is completed when we bill it to the distributors. So -- and there's no goods return into the company, right? So inventory at the distributor level does not come into our working capital cycle.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#41

Okay. Okay. And lastly, in terms of Lakshya in the next two years, where do you see the rollout from current 31%, 32%?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#42

So it would be very difficult to actually commit or give guideline on the same. We really want to wait for 3, 4 months before we actually come with a proper plan and the strategy because of the intense competition that is going on in the market, we are unable to comment on that. But we are very optimistic about the project, and we really want to take it forward because we are seeing good growth. It's just that in a short-term period, it causes disruption in the market. And we are not yet ready to actually lose the market share while we are implementing this particular project.

Bhargav Buddhadev

Analysts
#43

Congrats on a good free cash flow...

Operator

Operator
#44

The next question is from the line of Deepali Kumari from Arihant Capital Markets.

Deepali Kumari

Analysts
#45

INR 1.5 crores export revenue in Q1 across 15 countries. So what are you targeting for export in next 2 or 3 years? And are there any specific geographies you are and looking for a new geography?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#46

So we have always been strong in the Gulf market. But the newer market that we are trying to enter and increase our overall export is the African market and Myanmar, Burma. So we have very recently, like last year only, we started off with African market and Berma exports as well. So we hope that we'll be able to crack because it's very difficult to enter a market where -- so in the African market, there's a lot of counterfeit product that sells. There's a lot of private labels. So there's a cost constraint also in order to enter into the particular market. So we are very hopeful that we'll be able to grow our exports.

Deepali Kumari

Analysts
#47

Okay. And sir, are you looking for inorganic growth for brand...

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#48

Sorry...

Deepali Kumari

Analysts
#49

Are you looking for any inorganic growth?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#50

So we have been looking for inorganic growth for quite a while, but things have not materialized as of now. But in case there's a good opportunity that comes in with the business point of view, yes, we are open to it.

Deepali Kumari

Analysts
#51

And sir, how do you see the product mix evolving within core innerwear, outerwear, athleisure segment by '27 or '28?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#52

So currently, our athleisure segment is around 12%. Our innerwear contributes around 85% to our sales. And the rest is thermals and socks and women outerwear. Going ahead, we grow at a faster rate than our innerwear. And we are very optimistic about the thermals also. Since it's a seasonal product, one can't comment on that. But yes, there's a good opportunity, and our market share is very less when we talk about thermal wear. So we have a good opportunity over there as well. Plus the rain that we have come out with Dollar Protect. So we are getting a very good traction in a couple of years, standing at 4% of our total contribution coming in from Dollar Protect rainwear. So we are very hopeful about these product categories growing at a faster rate than the core products.

Operator

Operator
#53

The next question is from the line of from the line of Naman from AUM Capital.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#54

Congratulations on good set of numbers. So I have a question. I just want to understand since the cotton for a major part of your raw material, how has been the trend in the cotton prices till date? And how should we expect it to evolve going ahead?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#55

Sorry, we didn't get your question. [Technical difficulty]

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#56

So I was asking that since cotton for a major part of our raw material, how has been the trend in cotton -- and how should we expect it to evolve going ahead?

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#57

Currently, cotton -- cotton market is very stable. And from last 6 months, average candy price is stable between INR 55,000 to INR 56,000. And as per current guideline, the agriculture for cotton crop is also very good. And we hope that there is no fluctuation in the market with regard to cotton prices. And it is stable for next 6 to 12 months.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#58

Okay. And as you said that you expect the price to remain stable in case there is some hiccups going ahead have you done any kind of hedging to protect the prices because if it is going to impact our performance...

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#59

Actually, we purchased 80% of our procurement is yarn only. So we require 20% purchase cotton for our spinning unit only. So there is no requirement for such hedging purpose.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#60

Okay. And my next question is could you please provide us a breakup of your export revenue based on country like what portion of your export accounts for a particular country

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#61

Currently available now, but we can help you to send after the call if you contact our e-mail, we can give certainly. -- just to clarify that we don't have any exposure to U.S. market. So there is no impact on the tariff imported by the United States.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#62

Yes, yes. You mentioned about -- so on that part, I have no further questions to ask. And you mentioning that targeting around INR 85 crores to INR 90 crores going ahead, right?

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#63

In absolute terms for the full year.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#64

In absolute terms. And while I was going through your financials in the other expenses part, there was approximately 90% jump on a Y-o-Y basis. So could you please shed some light on that, like what led to this sharp jump?

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#65

Actually, in quarter 1, we have promotion through the IP also. So in quarter... Is. But overall in full year, the budget is within our range within 5% to 6% only. So current year, our total cost -- total budget is around INR 8 to INR 5 crores. So in next quarter, there is less expense on advertisement.

Operator

Operator
#66

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Anik Mitra from Finnomics.

Anik Mitra

Analysts
#67

Sir, my first question is regarding EBOs. Sir, in FY '25, you have given a target of 125 EBOs. And in FY '24 and '25, we have seen that you have 17 EBOs. And once again, you have given 125 EBOs target by FY '26. So I just want to understand how do you achieve this number? What would be the strategy behind like achieving this 125 EBOs from 17 currently? And what would be the impact of this increasing impact on your top line?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#68

So Mr. Anik, the thing is that during last year only, we said that we are not opening any EBO and we won't be able to open 125 EBOs by FY '26 also because the basic problem still persists that -- the exclusive brand outlets that we have, the ASPs are very low and the per ticket value is that we are getting right now is not feasible and it's bleeding, right? So up to a certain level, we are able to optimize and also we are treating it as a white elephant like it is more of an experience store for our consumer and it's a permanent holding of our brand, which is there. And we are compensating our franchisees also on a yearly basis. Although the amount is not big enough, it's almost negligible. So the amount we are bleeding is almost negligible, but finding a new franchisees for the stores is getting difficult. Secondly, we don't really want to open COCO stores because it would be capital intensive and a lot of -- it's capital heavy. So that's why we don't want to move for COCO model. Yet we are trying a few different things in the market with respect to EBO like kiosk and getting smaller stores where we can find franchisees very easily. So we are working on that. And we are also working on the front that how do we increase our overall ticket value at the store level. So once we are able to achieve that, I think we'll be able to scale up our exclusive brand outlets.

Anik Mitra

Analysts
#69

Absolutely. I understood, sir. Sir, my another one question is like what is the ratio of your premium, semi premium and mass products in terms of revenue value?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#70

So in terms of revenue, our economy range is contributing around 42% of our sales. mid-premium is 48% and premium is 8%...

Anik Mitra

Analysts
#71

Premium is 8%...

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#72

Yes, 8% of our total sales that is the premium sub-brands that we have. But if you talk about premium in terms of EBITDA contribution, there it's almost 24% to 25% of our sales.

Anik Mitra

Analysts
#73

Premium. Okay. So sir, itself contributes around 4.2% as Q1 FY '23. So overall, it is you are saying 8%, I got it.

Operator

Operator
#74

The next question is from the line of Pulavati saikiran from Pulavati Advisors.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#75

Sir, just continuing on one conversation on the advertisement expenses. If you look at your annual report last year, you have advertisement expenses of approximately INR 100 crores and you also have commission and brokerage of around INR 3.5 crores and you have got sales promotion expenses are around INR 14 crores and you have got other selling and distribution expenses of INR 35 crores. Sir, how do you classify among these four? And if I compare with your peer group, all this combined together, you have got a very high proportion of percentage of sales. How do you think about it? And also going forward, how do you evaluate the effectiveness of this expenditure?

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#76

Yes. With respect to advertisement expenses, means that we classify all the ATL and BTL activity like electronic media and like in-store branding. But with regard to commission, if the commission is paid on sales and on purchase also. So when we purchase procure yarn, then there is a commission. When we -- when we sell our product, then we have the system of the regulatory agent. So we have to pay the commission from 1.5% to 1.75% of our sales and with regard to sales promotion expenses, they are the expenses which are we organize conference for our dealers and distributors time to time and promote and the selling expenses is related to the BAT part of the salesperson. We have team of around 650 person for salesman team and the selling expenses related to the traveling and part of the same.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#77

Got it, sir. So how do you -- go ahead, sir.

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#78

Yes. All the 4 are different head and different nature.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#79

Understood, sir. How do you measure the effectiveness of your advertising expenditure, sir?

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#80

Pardon...

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#81

I mean to say that you look at INR 100 crores in terms of the advertisement expenditure, right? As a percentage of sales, it is almost like one of the highest in the industry, almost like 6% to 7% is what you have. How do you measure the effectiveness of the advertisement expenditure which you have?

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#82

Yes. If you see our balance sheet from last 5 years, then you see that our advertisement expenses is caved within INR 100 crores because according to us, INR 100 crores is the handsome amount for the brand to promote. And currently, this year, our target is around INR 80 crores to INR 85 crores. So we have the target of growth of 11% to 12%, then it's come to around 4% to 5% of the total revenue for this year.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#83

And one last question, sir, in terms of Project Lakshya. When you look at -- I understand that you measure your effectiveness of the Project Lakshya, but have you ever worked with the distributors? What kind of benefits the distributors got and how that benefits are improving?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#84

So there are majorly three to four benefits that the distributors are having. One is that we don't push our products to the distributors. So the distributors inventory is optimized at a level of 30 to 45 days. Secondly is we have fixed their margin, and we have fixed the retail price also at which the distributor would be billing to the retailer, and it has been guided by our distributor management system. The -- the third is the ROI. So the ROI that we have guaranteed our distributor, if they follow all our SOPs is somewhere between 18% to 20%. And the distributors who have been working hard in the market and following all the SOPs, we have seen that distributors are earning around 20% to 25%, 28% also ROI. So these are the benefits that the distributor gets. And in turn, we get all the data at which pin code, which retailer is getting built and at what frequency, what is the kind of rain selling that we are doing in the market. So -- and the sales representative that we give to the distributor. Earlier, our sales representative was limited. But now we ensure that from company side, there's a minimum of 15 days of working happening at a distributor point that the distributor handles this area. Plus we have given telecaller support to the distributors. So our telecallers also take orders from the retailers on a weekly basis. So these are the benefits that the distributor get while they are dealing with us.

Operator

Operator
#85

The next question is from the line of Prerna Jhunjhunwala from Elara Securities.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Analysts
#86

Sir, I just wanted to understand the competitive intensity in the industry, given that 19% growth that you have done during the quarter, is there any base effect or easing of competitive intensity? Or how should we read this number?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#87

So Prerna, the competition is still intense in the market, although it's not as intense as it was in Q4, but the intensity is still there. And 19.5% kind of a growth that we have done is the hard work of our sales team and the distributor and the trade channel. And plus the model -- the support that we got from the e-commerce, quick commerce and the modern retail, we have seen 82% kind of a growth in our modern trade sales. So e-commerce has also helped us a lot in increasing our overall sales.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Analysts
#88

Okay. Just a follow-up. Will that be meaningful to our overall numbers when we look at the 12% volume growth for -- how much would be the e-com contribution in that?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#89

So overall e-com contribution to our total sales -- the modern trade contribution to our total sales is 12% for this quarter.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Analysts
#90

Okay. Okay. And do you see this kind of performance continuing over the next few quarters given the support of modern trade and commerce continuing. So we will be able to achieve 15% plus growth for the next of the quarters coming ahead?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#91

So Prerna, we are very optimistic about the numbers and everything. But as told earlier that our guideline will still be at 11% to 12% on a yearly basis. Yes, so which would be majorly guided through volume growth and not value.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Analysts
#92

Okay. Okay. And sir, I was not there on the call earlier. So I would have missed this, but the distribution of Lakshya has not improved in the quarter. How do we see this project moving ahead?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#93

So it is slow pace right now. It's a conscious call that we have taken, taking into account the overall competition behavior also in the market. And that's why it's a bit slow pace. And it's a strategic decision that we have taken right now, but we are very optimistic about the project and seeing the results coming in from the Major state as well in the first quarter. So it really motivates us that we'll move ahead with this particular project. And sooner or later, we'll be able to complete the project pan-India basis. But yes, for the time being, we have slow paced this particular project. But at the same time, yes, we are very optimistic. So we'll be completing the states that we have started. We -- our ongoing WIP is Jharkhand, Bihar, some parts of Himachal that we have. So these are some of the states that we need to complete. Maharashtra, it's an ongoing project for us right now. So still more than half of Maharashtra is still left. So we'll be completing this, and we'll not be including any new states as of now because this particular project disrupts the area for a time being, and we're not in a mood to shed the market share that we have or the shelf space.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Analysts
#94

Understood. So sir, any improvement in working capital cycle or type of products that you are seeing in Lakshya that you were targeting to achieve? Could you highlight some of the benefits that are starting to accrue in the Lakshya network?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#95

So in Lakshya network, our debtor days are much better than the non-lakshya distributors. So our debtor days are better. We are able -- the sales are much more organized, and we can actually track the secondary data also on a daily basis, distributor-wise. So we actually know where we are lacking and we get real-time market feedback also market data also like which product is doing well, which is not doing well, where we have to put in more focus, which brand to focus more on. And what is the kind of visibility we are getting or traction we are getting in the market with respect to the competitors. So all those data that we are getting is very valuable. Overall, yes, the distributors' ROI has increased. So they are also more focused about the project, and they are working really hard in the market. And yes, that's it and the data days that has reduced, which I told you.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Analysts
#96

And what will be the difference, sir, in the days of Lakshya and non-Lakshya?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#97

It would be to the tune of 30 to 35 days.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Analysts
#98

Okay. And the last question is on Dollar Women. In one of the slides, you've mentioned the brand-wise contribution of Dollar Women at 8% and gender-wise contribution of 13%. So just wanted to understand where is the rest of 5% actually included in the number?

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#99

So it's in dollar always. So like Dollar always is the consolidation of our -- all the economy range of products. So it's a mix of men's, women's and kids actually. It has always operated in a similar manner. So that's why.

Operator

Operator
#100

Due to time constraints, that was the last question. I now hand the conference over to the management for the closing comments.

Ankit Gupta

Executives
#101

I would like to thank you all for taking the time out to join the earnings call. Have a nice day. Thank you.

Ajay Patodia

Executives
#102

Thank you.

Gaurav Gupta

Executives
#103

Thank you.

Operator

Operator
#104

Thank you. On behalf of Motilal Oswal Financial Services, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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