doValue S.p.A. (DOV) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 14, 2020
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Operator
operatorGood morning. This is the Chorus Call conference operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining the doValue Full Year 2019 Preliminary Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Fabio Ruffini, Investor Relator. Please go ahead, sir.
Fabio Ruffini
executiveGood morning, everyone. And thanks for joining the conference call on doValue 2019 preliminary results. Attending this call and from the management team of doValue, Mr. Andrea Mangoni, CEO of the group; and Ms. Manuela Franchi, CFO. We will begin with an overview of the year and the main short-term opportunities we see in the market before commenting on the financials. Now over to you, Andrea.
Andrea Mangoni
executiveThank you, Fabio. For first comment, I would like to highlight that in 2019, we executed on several important strategic projects, which make the company today very different from what it was just a year or 2 ago. We believe that we are not only larger but better prepared to face what is ahead of us in the long term. The servicing market is evolving faster with clients asking for a broader set of services and very tight long-term relationships. Banks and investors have made the choice structurally to rely on professional specialized servicers. And we are instrumental to the sustainability of their business model. In this environment, we believe a few international independent servicers are set to emerge and continue to grow earnings. doValue has all the assets in place to lead this space. And we already do in Southern Europe. At the same time, operationally, we continue to execute, and the 2019 result, especially for what we consider market EBITDA and free cash flow generation, are a clear indication of that. Our business model is inherently cash-generative. And with a free cash flow of EUR 100 million, we took leverage down from 2x to 1.3x in our [indiscernible] models. This is quite unique in the industry. And it's not going to change since we grow while staying asset-light and cautious in terms of capital deployment. Growth in 2019 was supported by the addition of new clients in every market, both new banks and new international investors. I would like just a few names, like Cerberus, DK and Bain, and banks like UBI, Alpha Bank and Eurobank. As we will see, the current pipeline is supportive of our expectation of positive organic growth going forward. In terms of priorities, we stay focused on execution and integration and are able to share good news about the Altamira integration and the closing process of FPS acquisition. On Slide 2, a quick look at how we have changed since 2016, more than doubling the key financial indicators, expanding profitability and growing shareholder remuneration. We are also one of the most diversified servicers in the industry with a focus on Southern Europe and Italy at less than 50% of our GBV, even less in terms of revenues and no client above 50% of our AUM. We are the top player in data securitization in Italy and work with the largest banks, including the flow agreements in Italy, Spain, Greece and Cyprus. In terms of asset class, we are adding performing loans to NPLs, UTPs and REOs and shortly also in the arrears with FPS. NPE investors came out and chose doValue as their preferred partner for a wide range of investment strategies in the most promising markets. On Slide 3, we wanted to share one key message that the current active pipeline in Southern Europe is very dynamic and that we have started in the 2020 on a positive note. In Italy, we have reached 2 new agreements this past month for a large due diligence project and a master servicing mandate on a leasing portfolio. We are close to signing our first UTP mandate and are looking at an interesting pipeline. Some of our clients -- [indiscernible] clients will launch a new GACS. And there are a couple of significant portfolio sales expected by year-end. We are quite happy to have reached an agreement with Santander Spain for EUR 1.7 billion real estate project, entailing the significant investment by the bank to develop the asset and business plan running for 10 years. Besides this, there is quite a pipeline of primary and secondary transactions, where we are advising several high-profile international investors. Similar developments in Portugal, where, however, the average size of the portfolio is smaller. Greece and Cyprus have confirmed they are very active. A significant mandate in Cyprus will be awarded in the market in the next 3 to 6 months. And for Greece, we are happy to say that we have visibility on EUR 1 billion portfolio. We expect it to be onboarded after the summer, increasing visibility on 2020 targets. So all in all, the positive developments confirming our expectation. On Page 4, update on the Altamira integration, which is progressing well. As you know, given the quality of the management and the limited overlap of operation, no deep restructuring is needed. And Altamira closed the 2018 and 2019 accounts above our acquisition expectations and is continuing to perform well. Several project streams are active, covering areas from real estate, where Altamira will transfer its [ model ] to Italy employees to NPE management and operations. Our integration team is busy with the execution. And new organizational model has been launched. Lastly, I would mention that the employee satisfaction surveys at Altamira have improved since our acquisition and that turnover levels have not increased. Finally, on Page 5, our priorities for the current year. Execution continues to be key to capture the organic opportunity that our industry continues to present across markets and asset classes. What we see today confirms our conviction on the assumption of the business plan. And we count on sharing the good news as the year progresses. Cost focus continues to be a priority. And we will update you on a quarterly basis about the projects that we are running both in HR, IT and SG&A growth across the board. Cost control has been one of the main strengths in 2019 and supported our EBITDA and cash generation clearly, especially in Q4. Finally, on M&A, we will be busy with integration. And that will be the priority. The industry is consolidating faster, so it's our duty to monitor. But as always, we will do so with caution and with a focus on our current markets. With this, I thank you, and leave the floor to Manuela.
Manuela Franchi
executiveThank you, Andrea, and good morning, everyone. On Slide 7, we have summarized the financials for this year. Besides the significant growth in all indicators, most important with EBITDA margin expanding to 59% and leverage already at 1.3x following the 2x at the end of last year, I would like to comment on the flexibility of our business model in terms of revenues and costs. Especially towards the end of the year, we acted on the mix of our revenue being more selective on certain projects which we consider secondary while at the same time, using cost flexibility to expand EBITDA and cash flows. Additionally, for certain portfolio sales by clients occurred in '19, upon settlement, we have the flexibility to reduce the cost base structurally, returning personnel rather than receiving one-off revenue components. And we decided for this mix. This is reflected in our 2019 results. We're exceeding the profitability and achieving the targets we had anticipated via cost levels, especially in Cyprus and Spain, and through the overall flexibility, building the incentive scheme of the group, which is an upside that when volumes will not exceed the targets, which are set above our budget. More on the financials, I will flag the 32% growth in net income to be reflected in the dividend with a 72% payout ratio and the positive trend in group fees, which are confirmed as resilient. On Page 8, we have summarized the evolution of the gross book value. Inflows into the GBV are particularly strong at more than EUR 15 billion, not including the Alpha Bank contracts, for which the onboarding is currently being completed. The quality of the new inflows is particularly good, given the addition of new clients, both banks and investors, confirming our status as #1 independent servicer in Southern Europe. We continue to be selective on new mandates, protecting the profitability going forward. Collections were very strong at EUR 5.6 billion, including the REO sales, with an overall growth of collection rates. Write-offs and sales by clients for which we were compensated for were in line with expectations. You might notice that the ratio of write-offs to collection is lower than in the past. This is purely due to the new geographic and service mix of doValue and the different collection rates across markets. Moving to Page 9. The summary statistic of our reported GBV at the end of '19, so not pro forma for the announced FPS transaction, which will improve these metrics. We continue to manage one of the most attractive books in the sector, composed of large-ticket secured corporate loans with some client market and asset class diversification. Diversification by clients and markets would be even more pronounced on a revenue basis as FPS will be consolidated. On Slide 10, we have introduced a focus on the composition of our revenue, both in terms of types of fees and investment of difference between gross and net revenue. Base fees are growing significantly from 17% in '18 to 22% this year and to about 25% of total in 2020 over the revenues. The trend has high visibility for us since it's built into our contracts. And it was expected, given the fact that we are diversifying into markets, which for different reasons [ of the fee ] structure, which relies heavily on base fees protecting servicer in case of short-term volatility. You might remember that our fee structure in Italy provides for an average 5 basis points on GBV, something that has remained stable over the years. Outside of Italy, this figure is at least double because of market maturity or because of negotiated contractual terms. The pipeline we see currently is in line with this trend. Next, on Slide 12, a focus on the fee structure of UTP, which many of you have asked for. UTP is becoming more relevant now as the growth of the market picks up and we approach the signing of our first large mandate. We report illustrative data, which involves large flat upfront fee for the setup of the portfolio above 1% of the purchase price in terms of management fee and very attractive success fee, so a much richer structure as compared to the NPL. As mentioned in the past, the lower number of case files managed by employees and the type of skill needed make UTP servicing also more expensive in terms of HR. But overall, the net balance of cost and revenue provides for a profitability above 40%, so in line or above our medium-term targets. This fee structure has been widely used in a more private equity-like UTP servicing in the past and is accepted by market participants. Turning now on cost on Page 12. Highlighting the growth in EBITDA margin to 59%, one of the highest in the industry, especially for asset-light services with no balance sheet risk. We have also included the nonrecurring items, so that you are clear on most of the extraordinary expenses, mainly related to the acquisition of Altamira and the group debanking process, and to a lesser extent, FPS. We continue to work on efficiency in all areas with a special focus on IT and HR, which supported the results in Q4 and in whole 2019. The trend in SG&A is purely due to the use of real estate progress by Altamira for the REO business, so expected and actually positive, given the development of the business overall. On Slide 13, doValue '19 results by market, highlighting both operational and financial KPIs. As mentioned in the past, collection rates are structurally higher outside of Italy due to lower collection timings and compressed collection curves in few areas. This is a very significant gap as compared with Italy, with Spain and Portugal collection rates, which are more than double of Italy and even more so in Greece and Cyprus. It's also a function of the different average vintages of the GBV. In terms of profitability, international markets are again accretive to Italy because of their contract nature, volume growth and degree of uncertainty servicers need to face, given the lack of long-term collection data. And they are specifically for Cyprus and Greece. We are comfortable in this environment since we are used to managing complexity and can use it as a competitive advantage against less structured servicers with lower servicer ratings. On Slide 14, a glance to the composition of net working capital and debt. On the top of the slide, I would flag out the net working capital is up purely due to the perimeter of the integration of Altamira. Excluding this effect, net working capital is actually lower in absolute terms. There is a positive structural trend that continues here, given the shift of client base investors, who have better payment terms for us compared to banks and due to the announced FPS acquisition, which will improve this even further, given that some payment of fees on a quarterly basis. Finally, on Page 15, perhaps the most positive feature of our business model confirmed yet again with these results. Cash flow in 2019 was very solid with EUR 100 million of free cash flow on the back of EBITDA growth, limited CapEx, neutral net working capital effect and only EUR 15 million of cash taxes paid. This allowed us to reduce leverage significantly below last year from 2x to the current 1.3x and also significantly below our target for the year of 1.5. So despite increasing the size of the company twofold and paying industry-leading dividends in '19, we confirm a very conservative financial profile, a unique case in listed servicing companies, something that will continue in 2020 and after following the integration of FPS. This concludes my remarks. And we are now happy to take your questions. Thank you.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Luigi Tramontana with Banca Akros.
Luigi Tramontana
analystYes. My questions refer, firstly, to the inflows you had from existing clients in 2019, almost EUR 5 billion, which is much higher than the guidance you gave for the coming years, approximately EUR 2 billion per year. So I would like to know if in 2019, you had some positive one-offs there and you confirm your guidance or if we can expect a higher contribution from the existing clients going on. The second question is on the collections in Italy, which actually were a little bit down compared to 2018, if you can comment on that and give us an indication for 2020, if you expect growth coming back in the Italian market in terms of collections or if you expect a further decline. And finally, a remark on taxes, you had only EUR 15 million cash taxes. And what do we have to expect in 2020, given the decays that you have on your balance sheet?
Manuela Franchi
executiveOn the first point, the inflows were significant this year because you might know that in Spain, there was integration of Banco Popular into Santander. So as part of this plan, there was an extraordinary cleanup by Santander of the new NPL that they were going to manage. And therefore, they allocated to us a much higher portion than the expected at the beginning of the year in terms of amount of NPLs. As you know, Santander in Spain uses different services. We are the major one for the secured large tickets, medium and large tickets. They then have Actúa, which manage the small and Aliseda, which also manage real estate. Given our performance and the much higher inflows from Popular, we have been allocated an higher -- much higher proportion than usual.
Andrea Mangoni
executiveOn the collection in Italy, the collections were slightly down because of the impact on the collection in terms of a delay of the preparation of the multi-data securitization we did for UniCredit, the so-called PRISMA project. The project is a sizable project. We are talking about EUR 6 billion securitization. So the impact on our collection was important. But we are talking about just a delay in our collections. And I think we will fully recover in the second Q this year.
Manuela Franchi
executiveIn terms of tax outflow, in Italy, as you know, we have had the benefit of the DTA, which are summarized on Page 21 of the presentation. Now we are left with around EUR 13 million, EUR 12.9 million of remaining DTA that can be used for 2020. The remaining will be used -- can be used only after from 2022. While in Spain, the taxes paid in 2019 as the [ story ] of this business are low because the amortization of the contracts is something that has been very high in Altamira, given that obviously they tried to limit as much as possible the tax paid, given that they were a parent company. But the amortization was down over time. Therefore, the net income increases more than proportionally vis-à-vis the EBITDA. Given that, they have very negligible amount of DTA, they will obviously start to pay the relevant tax rate in Spain. So definitely, the tax will step up from next year but still with some DTA to be used to reduce the margin of tax rate.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Borja Ramirez with Citi.
Borja Ramirez Segura
analystA couple of questions. Firstly, I would like to ask if -- given the effect on the fees from the delay in the securitization, once this is fully normalized in 2020, could we expect a higher-than-expected collection rate? And my second question is I saw that you reiterated the 2.6% collection rate for 2020. I would like to ask if you could provide more color, also if the current negative rates in Europe could help in collections. And my last question, given the negative rates and also the improved capital outlook for banks, could we expect increased NPL disposals in 2020?
Fabio Ruffini
executiveBorja, this is Fabio. Can you please repeat the last question?
Borja Ramirez Segura
analystYes. So given the negative interest rates in Europe and also the improved capital position in the banking sector, could we expect increased NPL disposals in 2020?
Andrea Mangoni
executiveOkay. On your first question, the collection rate for this year, we confirm more or less 2.6% collection rate for 2020.
Manuela Franchi
executiveYes. Because we had already considered this effect when we announced the partner in November. So the effect of the shift, and therefore the higher collection, are included in the target of 2.6%.
Andrea Mangoni
executiveOn your last question, the low interest rate and the impact of the portfolio disposal, I think, yes, it could be. But on the same time, the situation of the banks in terms of derisking is slightly better in comparison to last year. So all in all, I think the impact of the low interest rates will be positive, but not materially.
Operator
operatorYour next question is from Andreas Markou with Berenberg.
Andreas Markou
analystSo two from my side. The first one is again on collections and revenue in general, especially in Italy. So during the updated business plan, you gave us an estimated figure for revenues of about EUR 380 million for the year. You are -- you actually alluded EUR 360-something million for the year. The point is that the guidance was actually given at the end of Q3. And my understanding is that the portfolio you did with UniCredit, all the work was done -- was finished by Q3. So effectively, Q4 collections were down by EUR 20 million, this is my understanding, versus your guidance. Am I correct on that? And then if that is actually the case, what has gone worse than what you expected? That's the first question. The second question is again a confirmation on the new AUM guidance over all your geographies. So we expect the UTP EUR 0.5 billion for this year to be signed into one. Also congrats on the portfolio in Spain, EUR 1.7 billion. But are you still comfortable with -- especially Italy, it's about EUR 3 billion of new NPL AUM this year and about EUR 1 billion to EUR 2 billion of UTP.
Manuela Franchi
executiveAndreas, I'll take this question. On the collection, actually in the first quarter, the topic was not Italy, but the choices we made elsewhere. Because as you said, we already knew about the transition of the PRISMA portfolio in November and we have anticipated it and built into our numbers. So basically, there are 2 events in Cyprus and in Spain. In Cyprus, the collection have decreased because we took benefit from an early retirement plan that the government has launched in favor of CCB employees that -- because CCB is the Cyprus Cooperative Banks which have been included into the perimeter of the state, given that the bank defaulted. So many people have exited more than we expected, which is ahead of our plan in terms of less employees in the country, given that the other platform, which is quite rich in terms of people vis-à-vis the book we manage. But this obviously has an effect on the revenue -- the collection and then the revenue these people we're bringing in, in a time where they're exiting. So there was much better on the cost side because more people are out but softer collection. The net impact on EBITDA, as you have seen, is not -- is nothing. Actually, the overall performance of Altamira, including Spain and Cyprus, has been a positive vis-à-vis last year results. In Spain, I said, as you all know, on the -- especially on the real estate side, we received a loss of new flows from the Santander-Popular integration. Some of them were of lower quality, so the marginality you get on this is lower. So we preferred to have -- to manage less than those. So on a net revenue basis, the impact is very limited. But when it drops to revenue, we were assuming more revenue and more outsourcing cost. Again, we decided to focus on the more profitable collection. And also, given you might notice on a similar perimeter basis, Altamira has grown quite significantly versus last year, this is also due to one-off portfolio sale, where instead of having a very high indemnity fee, we decided for [indiscernible] but having people exit and getting it back so that the net effect on EBITDA is the same. But we are lowering the cost base. So it's a specific choice in this market.
Andreas Markou
analystOkay. So effectively, the cause of a bit of softness in revenue on Q4, it's temporary on the Cyprus side. And then on Spain, maybe a bit more temporary, given the lower quality of the new inflows. But on the EBITDA, the effect is pretty much 0.
Manuela Franchi
executiveYes. Actually, on the net revenue, now we haven't -- you don't have the margin by portfolio on the net revenue. But the impact on the net revenue is very small vis-à-vis the guidance because we didn't give guidance on the gross. Now your other question on the AUM guidance. We had guided to around EUR 3 billion of NPL and EUR 1 billion to EUR 2 billion of UTP in Italy. As you can see, the pipeline for the Italian market is good as we speak. And we know -- and yet we have only put things which are certain and decided by the banks. But we know different banks are still working on GACS and sizable transactions. One of our clients, UniCredit, has clearly stated that disposal plans in some of these disposals are not part of our perimeter, so we'll be on top. And we are aiming for that business and one of our other banking clients. In Spain, we have guided around EUR 1 billion to EUR 2 billion of additional AUM. The pipeline on Page 3 indicates today EUR 7 billion. On Greece, ex FPS, we had guided between EUR 1 billion to EUR 2 billion. And we have already indicated on Page 3 that we have EUR 1 billion already that will be onboarded in the second part of the year. In Cyprus, we haven't given specific guidelines. Actually, the guidelines for Greece, plus EUR 5 billion or so, with the EUR 1 billion already secured in Greece, we can see the upside from there, also on the Cyprus side, where a couple of large portfolio will be -- they're already in the market, so they will be allocated to an investor and then finally to a servicer in the second part of the year.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Filippo Prini with Kepler.
Filippo Prini
analystYes. A couple of questions of Greece, if I may. How much of your EUR 5 billion pipeline in Greece should come through portfolio through the Hercules scheme? Just to understand if this is a scheme that is already taking momentum in 2020 with respect to a very solid pipeline of new portfolios sold by Greek bank this year and also the coming year. Then on Greece, a couple of housekeeping questions, if I may. Should we expect some cost of -- for the integration of FPS or cost of M&A-related? And finally, on Slide 13, you provided the collection rate of Greece of 12% with Cyprus but is net of write-offs. So I would like to ask if it's possible to have it basically on the GBV without the write-off.
Andrea Mangoni
executiveOn the impact of the Hercules scheme on our projection, our target in Greece are before the Hercules scheme itself. So we really believe the Hercules scheme can accelerate the portfolio disposal in Greece, significantly accelerate the portfolio disposal in Greece. And at the same time the Hercules scheme will increase our competitive advantage because our leadership position in the GACS market in Italy, so we are familiar with the GACS scheme, quite similar to the Hercules one. And we have a proven track record in running the securitization, that securitization project. So in Greece, we are positive in terms of target. I really believe we can do better. And just to give you an example, NBG is accelerating its portfolio disposal. And probably, the banks will start with the securitization of EUR 7 billion mortgages portfolio this year. And it's not included in our current pipeline.
Manuela Franchi
executiveGoing back to the other question, Filippo. On the cost of integration, now in the target we have given in December for FPS, we have included in the EBITDA already the integration cost that we are expecting. So the actual EBITDA of FPS will be slightly better than what we have indicated to you so that we have reserved some costs for potential reorganizational and restructuring efforts, if needed. On the collection rate, we have given to you the numbers we feel more comfortable with, which is the net because the local team focuses on this measure. We are working on the gross number so that you can have all the metrics comparable. But at this stage, we are still not comfortable with the gross estimated there quarter-on-quarter, so we prefer to give in terms of KPI, the net. But for the next reporting, we will focus to give you also the gross figure.
Filippo Prini
analystOkay. Just a follow-up very briefly, so on the [ EUR 37 million -- EUR 32 million ] EBITDA on full year basis of FPS, there's already the inclusion of the integration cost, correct?
Manuela Franchi
executiveYes. But it doesn't include the transaction costs, cost of the bank lawyers to [ some is ] support. These are the nonrecurring items type of cost, which we always exclude. But the restructuring costs, which we have not, even in Altamira, not excluded by -- from the NRI, because at the end of the day, they are operating costs as part of the business. Although exceptional, they are in that guidance.
Operator
operatorNext question is from Andreas Lisi with Equita.
Andrea Lisi
analystSeveral question from my side. The first one is on the P&L you reported for the full year. We have seen that in the first 9 months, the nonrecurring items that included in your net income adjusted were EUR 26 million, now in the 12 months are EUR 31 million. So I want to ask you, where lies this difference of around EUR 5 million, if you can provide us more color on that in terms of nonrecurring items in the last quarter of the year? Then in terms of net working capital, I want to ask you which dynamic do you see in the next quarters. In particular, looking at this quarter, I see that there was a negative net working capital while the previous quarter, there was a strong release. While the previous year where -- when there was only the Italian business, it was quite the opposite in the sense that the last quarter was really strong while this year, we see negative net working capital -- use of net working capital. And then another question is maybe related to the point you have said before on Cyprus and if you can repeat that because I didn't get it really well. If I make the comparison of the fourth quarter results in 2019 with the ones pro forma in 2018 in terms of EBITDA adjusted, I see a minus 13%. So I want to ask you, why was the EBITDA going down and also the revenues why are going down?
Manuela Franchi
executiveOkay. On the impact of the NRI between the 9 months and the full year, it's not related to the additional -- some of the costs related to FPS, which we accounted for in the last quarter. We still have obviously the remaining fees after the closing. But where we were certain, we included them, those which are not related to closing. On the working capital dynamic, we look at it on a full year basis in the sense that there could be a trend specific in the different markets, whereby in a specific quarter due to, for example, indemnity fees, which only fall into a specific quarter, or a special portfolio sale with -- especially of real estate, where they sell a bunch of assets in a specific quarter, you can have as wins. So our strategy is always looking at EBITDA on a full year basis. That is also why we leave on our balance sheet cash. Even with the transaction where we have -- we are acquiring FPS, we are not using all the cash we have on balance sheet because we want to be facing these changes in a timely fashion. Obviously, we have also revolving credit lines to do that. But we never use these lines, given the cash we keep on the balance sheet. On Cyprus, I'll explain it again. Basically, in Cyprus, we started when we bought Altamira with 420 people on the CCB contract. We're not talking about [indiscernible], which will be onboarded beginning of this year. We had a plan which was part of our strategy of decreasing these people, these number of people over time by a significant amount. Because to manage a EUR 7 billion portfolio, our assessment is that given the right workloads, you need less. We were fortunate that we didn't even have to pay for the layoffs because the state has offered preretirement to these employees and many have accepted. So the workforce in Cyprus at the end of the year has decreased from 420 to 300 people. But this, obviously with a few people exiting, you have an impact on collections. So we have experienced less collection than we were expecting, so less revenue but also much lower cost because our schedule of exiting was anticipated partially. Last point on the 4Q EBITDA, this was in our EBITDA estimate for the year, given that we had anticipated the impact on the delay of the collection due to the onboarding of the large securitization. So this basically explains the 4Q change. Taking into account that in the first Q, we have onboarded not only PRISMA but also the other EUR 3 billion of transactions, which are composed by other 5 portfolios. So in 1 quarter, the activity was pretty intense in terms of onboarding, which has always an effect on collection and therefore on the EBITDA of the quarter.
Operator
operatorGentlemen, there are no more questions registered at this time.
Fabio Ruffini
executiveThank you, everyone, for joining the call. Have a good rest of the day.
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