Easterly Government Properties, Inc. (DEA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
March 7, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Emmanuel Korchman
analystHey, there. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the 2:45 PM session at Citi's 2022 Global Property CEO Conference. I am Manny Korchman with Citi Research, and we're pleased to have with us Easterly Government Properties' CEO, Bill Trimble. This session is for Citi investing clients only. If media or other individuals are on the line, please disconnect now. Disclosures are available on the webcast at the end at the AV desk. [Operator Instructions] Bill, we'll turn it over to you, and I think you're going to have me on screen hopefully soon, so you can actually see me. Bill, we'll turn it over to you to introduce Easterly and any members of the management team that are there with you today, and then we'll come back for Q&A.
William Trimble
executiveThanks, Manny, and thanks, everybody, for coming today. We really appreciate it. And it's just so wonderful that Citi took the lead and having this terrific conference. We missed it very much, and thanks for getting everybody organized. I'm joined to my left by Meghan Baivier, who is our CFO and COO; and also by Lindsay Winterhalter, who is Head of our Investor Relations today. I just want to just take a quick second to take a look at 2021. I'll keep it brief. But it was such an outstanding year for us that we had a moment in our Board meeting a couple of weeks ago, but we really wanted to take a look at what we accomplished. And I think record acquisitions, $412 million for our team. Our hats are off to them. Meghan's hard work with a terrific year in the capital markets, but also a year where we saw the new JV that we created with an international global domestic. We have about 5 different names from an investor, but a wonderful partner who have allowed us to explore different ends of the market, and it's been a terrific opportunity for us, and we look forward to doing a great deal more with them in the future, which allowed us to do the very large transaction with 10 VAs this year. But I think the big theme for us has been inflation, and that's a wonderful thing for Easterly Government Properties. It's not wonderful for everyone, but it sure is from us. And if you know our leases, we're unique in that we get to move them up every year with certainly the operating expenses with the urban CPI. And secondarily, it's been unbelievable for us and our ability to negotiate with the federal government because there's one thing when we're renewing buildings that they understand is inflation because they're basically responsible for it. But luckily, they also have a printing press in their basement and are able to keep cranking on that as well. So it's been a great opportunity for us to be able to hopefully enter into some terrific negotiations in the years ahead.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystGreat. With that, we'll open it up with our kickoff question here. What are the top 3 reasons an investor should buy your stock instead of any other listed property company?
William Trimble
executiveI think, again, I'm just going to hit it with inflation protection. It's embedded within our leases, and I think it's unique to us, and it's certainly a good thing to have with these uncertain times. I think as we've said every year, the creditworthiness of our tenant, the federal government is unique, and another great place to be certainly during troubled times, we think all the time. And finally, we've delivered a 3% to 4% earnings growth rate with a 5% dividend backed by the full faith of the U.S. government. So I think those 3, Manny, sum up what we deliver.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystWhat do you think is the biggest growth opportunity that you guys have that the market isn't giving you credit for?
William Trimble
executiveWell, I think it's going to be the inflation fuel renewals. As you know, we're based on replacement cost, not local market rents. And an FBI is a lot more expensive to build this year than it was last year, certainly up 7.5%. I was seeing reports this morning just on basic commodity pricing. And so, with this mission-critical portfolio and the construction costs of -- the only thing they can take is that, as you know, Manny, is somebody building another build-to-suit building for the tenant. And that is becoming more and more unlikely by the minute with what's going on. We're even seeing some of the developers that were sort of dipping their toes into this market exiting. And so, I think as we get to those renewal conversations with those contracting officers, they're going to try to get things squared away as quickly as possible, and we've got a lot of more room to navigate.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystMaybe walk us through sort of any changes in that lease negotiation process with that as a framework. So are they trying to take longer? And are they trying to take shorter, you're trying to take longer? Are you guys aligned in just getting this done whenever it gets done? Do they actually even think about the fact that inflation is what it is?
William Trimble
executiveI think that's a great question. I'd love to say that your federal government has just kind of immediately pushed on the accelerator and call up stuff on the phone and start moving things ahead. I think things are probably moving in regular order, which is the way the government usually proceeds. As you know, there's a huge stack of these leases on every one of these contracting officers desks and there's only so much time and so much effort they want to put into each one. But I think where they had reasons and many reasons we get into discussions that could take up to several years as to why we were increasing rents as to why we're doing this and that, I think it's quite clear to certainly federal employees and certainly in their own lives, what inflation is doing. And so, I think it just makes sense to them. And to answer your question, yes, I mean, I think we walk in with a little straighter and a little stronger stride when we walk or -- actually, we do it all by written word mostly. But I think our negotiations are greatly strengthened.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystUse a lot more bold text.
William Trimble
executiveBold text. Angry text, yes.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystNow, Meghan, as we sit here, and I know you're very good at kind of grounding us. So, as we sit here and talk about this, I want to figure out how should this translate to actual whether it be lease renewal spreads, whether it be actual cash flow? How long does this actually take to flow through? Because I know that I'm always tempted following these things to go back to my model and say, "Oh, inflation is 10%, all the leases rolling are going to be up that, but that's just not the way it happens". So help us get it back to sort of dollars and cents.
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. I think really, as Bill said, it's that force behind us that we walk into the room, and we come in with a bid from the government or a perspective that the government might have, and we've got an ask and we engage with them on a back and forth basis, right? It's ability for us to know that we're leaning in. We're leaning in hard because we know the development cost. Obviously, we have a development team who is better than anyone in the industry at underwriting these developments. And so, it's just that extra little bit of push in those last final rounds where we stand our ground, et cetera. And we are. We're going into these -- again, we call them negotiations, right, with an assistance to the government in justifying our lease proposal. And part of that has always been and will continue to be looking at cumulative inflation of construction costs. That wind is at our back. Maybe it's not bold print, but it's a nice chart with a hockey stick at the end, right? And so, as we think about that, wind at our back and we think about the renewals that are coming in the next couple of years, as we look at that range in the low-teens to the high-20s, right, we're going to really aim for the high end, if not above the high end. But it's also just over time, increasing the value of our portfolio. Every day, these assets get more valuable, right? So we have an ability to strike a new lease on some of them, but investors with a slightly longer-term perspective should be considering that every day, Loma Linda, right, just accretes in value for these irreplaceable buildings.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystI guess, where I struggle in conversations with investors on that point, though, is that, you're actively out there buying assets as well. And I think people think of you more -- as more of an -- rightly or wrongly as more of an asset aggregator than of this growing internal cash flow, whether it be because of expense bumps or leasing. How do we bridge that gap? Like if these assets are, to your point, accreting daily, that means that you're paying up for them more every day or not. And if it's the -- or not, how do we get there?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. So, to kind of circle back also to your prior question, Manny, right, what we're talking about here is the wind is at our back and creating that low single-digit, call it, 1% to 2% same-store NOI growth over time. That's what a perfectly rolling portfolio with the type of spreads that we aim to get [ wood ] garner. And that's really what sits at the base of our long-term, we say 2% to 4%. We certainly performed at the high end of that range over the last 2 years earnings growth. But you're right, that does take the acquisition engine layered on top of the renewal story that we have internally. And we've done some really interesting things in the last 6 months to continue to support our cost of capital and be able to engage on the acquisition side, right, as we have this real strong underpinning on the existing portfolio. We've got an ability to transact in what we call our bread and butter. Last year, our average cap rate was a 6% cap, but you know the big VA portfolio is at 5.25% cap, but we can certainly transact wholly owned in the bread and butter stuff. And if we see portfolios or we see large flagship assets coming closer to 5.25% and even shy of that, where we've got a fantastic relationship with a large global investor who is keen to put billions of dollars into this space where we can also continue to grow a relationship. So, I guess, really the same-store piece is the underpinning, but the pipeline is absolutely -- is critical, and we're continuing to stay active in that market.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystOn that last point you made there on building the relationship, that's building the relationship with who, with the investor or with the agencies or someone else?
Meghan Baivier
executiveInvestor. Yes, our new global partner. Fantastic partner. Really understands these assets. Really has a perspective on them. We've talked a lot in the past years, right, about thinking about our story as a spread to treasury investment. They share that lens, which I think is really, really critical. So, continuing to grow that relationship.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystAnd what does that look like? Is that more portfolio deals with them? Is that more single asset deals? What does growing that relationship maybe look like here?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. I mean, I know -- we know that they have billions to put to work, and the return profile of our assets works well for them. The relationship with us works really well for them. And they might just -- the nature is for them to move programmatically, right? So that would be the way I think we would continue to interact with them in the future.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystI've spoken to some other investors, direct investors in this space, not equity investors, and they talked about only looking at assets that had much longer lease terms than even what you guys are sort of looking at buying. What are you seeing out there, either from your own appetite for buying or what's your targeted lease term and from your competitors?
William Trimble
executiveWell, as you know, the most recent portfolio that we purchased is 20 years, and I don't think it's possible to buy anything longer than that in the United States federal government. We averaged 19.5 years because 1 building is at 15. But I think as you know, Manny, for us, there's 2 sides to coin. And I think that a lot of the investors that are dipping their toes into this space, like those longer-term leases, they think they can put them on the shelf, which they can in many ways. But from our standpoint, we've got an incredible team at Easterly. And so, when we purchase a property, I'd say, we'd rather see they roll in 5 years or 4 years, and we're going to see a nice up on those properties. And we know how to go in. We know how to manage them. We know how to power spray them and we know how the federal government likes. We know the FBI likes a lawn and the DEA likes parking lots. But seriously, I think we can add a lot of value everywhere in the time frame of these leases. And so, we are rather agnostic. And in fact, we're probably going to get a better deal on the shorter-term leases, and we're probably going to add more value in those. But we -- as you know, we're almost like a laddered bond portfolio now with 89 buildings. So we have a lot of different lease lengths. And I think we're happy at anywhere on the spectrum.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystMaybe we'll dive into some of those acquisitions. What does the pipeline look like today and remind us where your guidance was for the year?
William Trimble
executiveYes. And so, we've bifurcated it this year. We wanted to make sure that folks understood the difference between this portfolio that we are executing on right now, and that's very large. But we're looking at about $140 million worth of the JV, new VA outpatient clinics this year. And at the same time, we're looking at doing from $200 million to $250 million in our regular way transactions, which would look very much like the sorts of things we've been buying ever since we started our first private equity fund. So the wonderful thing here and Meghan pointed out is that, as you know, we only do accretive acquisitions. And I think that's very important. But in these times where you're seeing interest rates and cap rates going in different directions or certainly not moving where they should at some point, and we can go into the reasons for that, it's great to be able to have a partner that realizes that these assets are worth a great deal and that we can continue purchasing them, particularly, it keeps anyone else from owning them. And we don't want someone else coming in buying $630 million with the 20-year leased properties. It would be a toehold. And even though I don't think they do a very good job at -- certainly not as good a job as we can do running them, I think that they belong at Easterly, and don't forget, the value and the scarcity is the buildings. There's only about 550 of them and we really do need to own them, but we've got to do it accretively for our shareholders. And I think that's what we've been able to put together with the new JV.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystRight. And if you think about the reasons that some of these owners go to sell, have those changed in recent sort of days, weeks or months?
William Trimble
executiveNo. I don't think -- I don't -- I tell you every year that the reasons are, Manny, and most of the owners of these buildings are regional developers and been very successful in developing on the government's behalf. And I said, I think last year, virtually that I thought the tax regime during the Biden administration would probably change and push some sales. I think that's still on the table from what I'm hearing. Obviously, Senator Manchin is in charge of that right now. But I think that also at these current prices, a lot of these owners, first of all, they're looking usually at a renewal and somewhere in the future. And so, they know that we're probably going to do a better job of it. And by the way, we'll give them credit for what we will have done on that renewal. And so, I think that -- and I also think that there's a state planning reasons for a lot of these folks and the pricing. I mean, maybe -- I don't know if we're going to top [ tick ] it, but it's pretty darn close. So we're pretty excited about what we're seeing out there, and that's, hence, those sorts of numbers that we're putting out.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystIs there any exclusivity with you and the global partner that you formed that JV with? Can you do another JV with someone else if you wanted to?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. No, we're not handcuffed in any way. It's a great relationship. I think they acknowledge us as the leading manager in this space. But we have flexibility.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystAnd do they, Meghan, have any either desire or force to have some type of volume come from you over some time frame? Is that a -- let's get to $5 billion over 5 years? Is it anything like that?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. There is -- I would tell you, we're not limited by them, right? Exactly. If we can change that in with a $1 billion -- they'd do it.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystRight. And maybe that's more of the question. But they're not forcing you to -- or encouraging you to do that in any way beyond what you'd be comfortable doing?
Meghan Baivier
executiveNo. I mean, the relationship is absolutely an agreeable one. I think we would both be interested, right, in something more programmatic, so that we understood what the goals were and an ability to continue to grow the relationship versus one-offs here and there. But no, there's no limitation to size.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystThere's a question here in the live QA. How is the buy box for the JV different than on balance sheet? Like what are the cap rate ranges?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. So, obviously, we saw them transact with us, alongside us at a 5.25% cap. They're paying us a 40 basis point asset management fee in the joint venture. So right, that's a 4.85% cap to them, and they are thrilled. And obviously, it takes us to a 5.65% capital level where we can deliver some good accretion for shareholders. We know they're very happy with those economics. And I think that today continues to be the market. So, the box is one that accommodates the current landscape of acquisitions.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystAnd is the determinant for balance sheet or JV pricing, asset quality, asset location? What's the filter?
William Trimble
executiveIt's going to be pricing for the most part, because they're going to be the highest quality assets that our JV partner interested in and usually longer-term assets. But as you get -- obviously, at quick Citi conference, you get us to $29 a share, we're not going to be able to do quite as many things with them. But I think it's fallen out just perfectly. We have different goals, and I think this partnership will work well.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystMeghan, I want to go back to -- and maybe this is just semantics. Back on the [ re-Q ] call, I think there's some confusion as to the accretion from the JV. You just talked about the 5.65% sort of cap to you, and that is accretive. I was under the impression the messaging was more that it's not really FFO or accretive, maybe it's a little bit AFFO accretive. So, when you talk about accretion at a 5.65% cap, like if you were to do -- tomorrow, you woke up and your acquisitions team's dreams came true and you did another $1 billion in this JV. What's the accretion to 2022 from that, aside from your guidance of on balance sheet assets?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. So just as a reminder, right, on an FFO basis, we're talking marginally accretive because it's that 5.25% cap rate, but these are brand-new assets out of the box, CapEx requirement -- maintenance CapEx requirements that are well inside of what the average Easterly portfolio runs. So we talked about cash flow accretion, CAD, if you will, to the tune of $0.02 to $0.03. So, consistent today, I talk about it as accretive, marginally accretive. I want to be very clear, it's not dilutive. But those assets have a very unique profile in that cash flow sense. And sorry, Manny, what was the second part of the question? The acquisition team to the...
Emmanuel Korchman
analystYes. Well, just hypothetically, right, what -- maybe just to help us frame numbers. Like if they did another $1 billion at the same -- everything looked the same as you did another $1 billion sort of today or make it easier, you did it 9 weeks ago on Jan 1, whatever that math is. Like what does the accretion look like from a deal like that to you guys from an FFO or AFFO perspective?
Meghan Baivier
executiveRight. So a deal like that $100 million, right, we priced the equity last summer sort of mid-$21 range, $21.64. So let's assume we're in that zip code. We obviously got a little wind at our back today. It feels good. But that's going to be marginally accretive $0.01 of CAD. That's what that looks like.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystWe've got a couple -- looks like they might be follow-ups. What is the -- I guess, this is sort of a -- what didn't you get? What fish did you miss? What's the opportunity set dollar amount that is sold in the last few years under your cost of capital but above a 4.85%? So, it was too expensive for you to look at, but have you had this partnership in place, you might have acted on it? I think, Bill, you can answer that question.
William Trimble
executiveYes. I mean, I can see the buildings quite clearly, it would be the Denver FBI. It would be the Defense Intelligence Agency outside of Dulles, Virginia. And just those 2 alone, Manny, would probably get you close to $400 million, that would have been probably closer, north of a 5% cap or right around there. So we looked at both of them. And I think that was -- those 2 sales, which were disturbing to us, but we were not going to go dilutive on our shareholders, really got us doing a fair amount of work, meeting some wonderful people over the last few years and coming up with this idea that worked out perfectly with the VA portfolio.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystOkay. What about selling some of your own assets either into a managed fund or somebody else?
Meghan Baivier
executiveSo, obviously, that [ disparate ] valuation perspective is not lost on us. I think it's something we -- we talk about all the strategic options, right, around our assets and growing the portfolio and recycling capital. So it's certainly one that remains in the conversation. I think we're still committed to continuing to balance the partner and on balance sheet deals and continue to try and grow this in the public realm today.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystOkay. Let's switch to ESG for a little bit here. What's your #1 ESG priority in 2022?
William Trimble
executiveWell, we hired a new -- which we talked about, I think, a Director of Sustainability last year, and we're progressing through a baseline process by harnessing the power of environmental data management platform, which we're excited about, which will allow us to actively manage our environmental impact. And in 2022, we'll be in a position to set and publicize formal ESG goals. And that's something we're working on more in the near-term. And with this data and these goals that are intent to publish our inaugural sustainability report next year, probably be a little bit after the conference, somewhere in that time frame. And then -- and I think we'll be able to measure our performance. And then eventually, as we look a little further out sort of in the longer-term, we want to join sort of a voluntary framework. It could be GRESB or something like that. So we're taking it very seriously. We have a wonderful new person working with us now, and we'll just continue and march along.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystMeghan, maybe this is one for you. But in the past, you've spoken about intensification, renovation, improvement projects that you actually get a return on because you did them on behalf of the government rather than just to the building, if I understand that correctly, which I hope I do at this point. Do ESG projects fall into that? Like do you do a big energy upgrade? Do you then all of a sudden get points from whether it be GRESB or whoever else, but the government might actually fund that?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes, it's interesting, right? The -- obviously, the ESG perspectives and goals of the government are evolving very quickly. So I would say heretofore a lot of those projects have been security-driven maybe outside of the ESG realm, I think that's -- that could definitely -- there could be opportunities for as those projects come about for them to be looked at through an environmental sustainability lens and for us to be able to do work alongside maybe some other priorities of the government and continue to push forward the sustainability profile of our assets. I think that's -- Manny, absolutely, they are really coalescing around that perspective, but we're just even the last 18 months. And so, I think it's going to really shape the next 5 to 10 years of those self-funded tenant improvement projects.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystAnd do you think those would happen at lease negotiation or at lease renewal? Or do you think those could happen off-cycle and just something that you...
Meghan Baivier
executiveNo. They happen...
William Trimble
executiveAll the time.
Meghan Baivier
executiveAll the time.
William Trimble
executiveThey can actually happen, which is amazing. The federal government will put a new security system into a building a year before the lease ends. And they'll put millions of dollars into it. So they realize they're going to be in the building long-term. And that's the way they think -- the federal government thinks of these buildings as their own and -- which is an important differentiator, I think.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystMaybe they're just thinking about those printers that you mentioned earlier. And that's not what they're thinking at all. So I've got a follow-up here on the conversation we had earlier about your cost of capital versus your JV partner's cost of capital and approach to capital. And just how did they think about their cost of capital? They're getting over a 4.85% with a -- be it, 15- or 20-year lease. What's their sort of cost of capital? And how much spread do they need to get to make sense for them?
Meghan Baivier
executiveYes. So, I wouldn't pause it knowing their perspective on all other subsectors within real estate, but I think an opportunity for them to earn, right, a levered yield sort of in that high single-digit range is in a profile asset like a VA or a 20-year brand-new lease is extremely attractive. And so, that obviously works within the construct of our marketplace, and I think gives us a lot of room to run with that investor.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystAre there agencies that you previously had been underexposed or maybe been ignoring that are now coming to the forefront? When you first came public, the VA was not a big conversation. Now it's a big piece of what you do. What's next from that perspective?
William Trimble
executiveThe good news is, there's a lot of next -- and that's a great question, Manny, but I don't think I can identify an agency that like the VA, that's basically gone into the good graces. They've always been in the good graces of the politicians, but they haven't exactly been on the cover of good government magazine. I think though that these facilities that they're building the -- that we're investing in are very much long-term and will work under any scenario of whether we -- more privatization within the VA or whether we stick with the hospitals or what the hybrid might be. As you know, we continue to like agencies that are -- we keep talking about gun-toting, et cetera, and I think they're going to be really important. I don't see us jumping into, for instance, a social security situation, particularly agencies that could be -- their services could be delivered online that could be delivered in a more efficient manner and where work from home works. So, we haven't -- none have popped up. Look, if a secret service agent -- secret service headquarters came up, we'd be more than happy to buy it. I think you've seen us lean in a little bit more to U.S. CIS, which is the legal immigration into the United States and incredibly important to this country and been woven in our history. And it suffered, I think we all know the difficult 4-year period for them, but I think they're raring to go and back and have a huge backlog and have a very important mission. So I think you've seen us make some purchases there.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystAnd then anything that would have been bulls-eye before that's not now, whether that be ICE or DEA? I hope it's not DEA because you've got a whole ticker change company.
William Trimble
executiveYes, we got a ticker change.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystBut something...
William Trimble
executiveNo. I think it's important to mention with ICE. ICE, when they put the Department of Homeland Security with 22 agencies together back in 2001 or '02, just after the disaster, they put a lot of people into different buckets. And ICE has a very -- obviously, a very important mission and one of them is HSI, which is the Homeland Security investigative unit, which is the FBI for Homeland Security and it resides within ICE. And so, we have a lot of exposure to HSI in our various facilities. We think they have a very important mission for no matter what the administration. I mean, they do a lot of -- I mean, a lot of drug interdiction, kidnapping and all of that. But we don't particularly own those removal groups and we don't -- as we say, we don't have people overnight at Easterly Government Properties.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystOkay. That was the end of my questions. Anyone in the room? No. And they're rapid fire. All right. We will. What will same-store NOI growth be for the -- where do we go with this?
William Trimble
executiveWe got an answer. We're saying 1% to 2%.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystOf what? What are we? What are you comparing to?
William Trimble
executiveWe compare -- who we get to compare it to, we get to compare it to ourselves. So I think -- so we are our own property sector. So...
Emmanuel Korchman
analystWhat will the 10-year treasury yield be a year from today?
William Trimble
executive2.27. 2.25.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystWill your unique property sector have more or fewer...
William Trimble
executiveWell, I mean, it's hopeful that every year I can report to you that we'll have the exact same number, us, so one.
Emmanuel Korchman
analystOkay. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Meghan.
William Trimble
executiveHey, thank you so much, Manny.
Meghan Baivier
executiveThank you, Manny. Good to see you.
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