EDAP TMS S.A. (EDAP) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 19, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies earnings 37 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Greetings, and welcome to the EDAP TMS Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Jeremy Feffer, Managing Director of Lifesci Advisors. You may begin.

Jeremy Feffer

executive
#2

Thank you, and good morning, and thank you for joining us for the EDAP TMS Third Quarter 2020 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. On today's call, we will hear from Marc Oczachowski, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board; and François Dietsch, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that management's remarks today may contain forward-looking statements, which include statements regarding the company's growth and expansion plan. Such statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in such forward-looking statements. Factors that may cause such a difference include but are not limited to those described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. I would now like to turn the call over to EDAP's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Marc Oczachowski. Marc?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#3

Thank you, Jeremy, and good morning, everyone. I will start with a brief operational update and then turn the call over to François Dietsch to review our financial performance. We are pleased with our third quarter results. While the calendar third quarter is seasonally our softest quarter of the year in terms of business volumes, this year, it was the strongest quarter so far. So while restrictions in Europe and elsewhere began to lift, we did see a gradual shift back to a normal. Obviously, these trusted procedures cannot be delayed indefinitely. Total revenue in the quarter was EUR 9.4 million or USD 11.2 million, as compared to EUR 9.3 million or $10.3 million in the second quarter of 2020. Another interesting sign was the fact that despite an 8% decrease in overall revenues in the third quarter this year compared to Q3 of last year, we generated a slightly higher amount of recurring treatment-driven revenues in our HIFU division, and we sold the same number of Focal One units. So following a difficult first half of the year, we are pleased with our third quarter performance. We announced just a few days ago that we entered into an agreement with ab medica, a leading distributor of medical technology in Italy. ab medica already distributes ExactVu, so they are already familiar with our product line. Italy is the fourth largest medical technology market in Europe, and we are pleased to be able to partner with a recognized leader and significantly expand access to our portfolio in this important European market. COVID infection rates are again climbing in many parts of the world, including most of the U.S., and we are carefully monitoring our key markets. We are again seeing a modest impact on procedure volumes as hospitals continue to focus on the pandemic. However, halfway through the fourth quarter, I can say that against this very challenging business environment, we continue to build our pipeline of Focal One and ExactVu sales prospects, while at the same time, advancing our development programs into new soft tissue indications that can potentially benefit from High-Intensity Focused Ultrasound, or HIFU. As we recently announced, the clinical value of Focal One was further validated by the number of successful sales in the third quarter despite the pandemic. This is a testament to the entire EDAP team that we were able to maintain our focus during these challenging times. During the third quarter, we announced 2 Focal One sales and one of which -- one of which, sorry, also included the ExactVu high-resolution micro ultrasound solution that we are now marketing as a result of our partnership with Exact Imaging. Recall that this micro ultrasound resolution is comparable or better than MRI and represents a 300% improvement of our conventional ultrasound. Similar to MRI, it allows urologists to visualize and look at suspicious regions within the process and target biopsies in real time. Using this technology, urologists can see detail that evade other imaging modalities. They can use the ExactVu system to perform targeted biopsy, whether transrectal or transperineal to confirm with the high success rate of suspicious lesions seen on the image. During the third quarter, we closed 8 ExactVu deals in different configurations, whether by a bundle deal such as the Focal One-ExactVu combo we sold to Mount Sinai Health System in New York or as a stand-alone solution to existing HIFU users or to new accounts and prospects. Prostate cancer diagnosis and treatment can only be delayed so long that ultimately must be addressed. Therefore, we remain optimistic that the short-term impact of COVID will not affect the long-term momentum of market adoption of HIFU and its numerous benefits for patients, most notably quality-of-life preservation. We continue to host virtual education sessions with urologists in the center. And in September, we hosted a key opinion leader call on Focal One and ExactVu, featuring Dr. Brian Miles from Houston Methodist and Dr. Laurence Klotz from Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre. They spoke of the significant opportunity that exists between the current 2 extremes of prostate cancer treatment, radical prostatectomy on one side and active surveillance on the other side. With HIFU, suspected prostate tissue can be ablated while leaving the gland intact. These virtual outreach efforts have allowed us to stay in front of our key stakeholders. As noted, COVID infection rates are increasing, and we are tracking changes rather than other restrictions. To this point, we have stayed true to our long-term mission, which is to make these technologies available to the broadest possible patient population. We continue to build inventories so that we are in position to ship systems as soon as we are able to safely do it. Regarding reimbursement, as indicated last quarter, we expect CMS to publish the final rule for 2021 by the end of this year. We continue to prepare for a Category 1 CPT code effective January 1 and will provide an additional update once the final rule is available. Turning to our endometriosis program. In August, we were granted full approval by French health authorities to initiate a Phase II clinical trial of HIFU for the treatment of deep invasive endometriosis. And we quickly completed the first patient treatment just a few weeks later. A total of 38 women will be enrolled in the study and treated at 5 major hospitals across France and assessed over a 6-month follow-up period. During the study, investigators will evaluate the safety and efficacy of HIFU for the pathology. To date, we have enrolled 6 patients and enrollment is continuing as we have scheduled an additional 3 patient treatments so far in December. And of course, should the results of this Phase II study be positive, we will work to efficiently initiate a Phase III program. The advancement of our endometriosis program is consistent with our strategic shift away from legacy lithotripsy business into our HIFU. Endometriosis is just one example of the condition that we believe can benefit from this noninvasive technology. So we see significant opportunity to expand our HIFU pipeline into very large global market opportunities. We look forward to keeping you apprised of our R&D efforts exploring HIFU in other indications. Publications of clinical data are key to our ongoing sales efforts. During the third quarter, we published 2 papers in the procedures and peer review Journal of Urology. These studies represent the first U.S. publication detailing successful partial gland ablation using HIFU to treat prostate cancer patients since FDA cleared the technology in 2015. The studies conducted at USC and the University of Miami report on outcomes and follow-up of up to 2 years on the combined 152 patients. Importantly, radical surgery was avoided in a vast majority of study patients -- participants, and incontinence and impotence were avoided or quickly returned to baseline levels. These results here are what we have observed in prior European studies that involved larger patient cohorts and longer follow up studies. Seeing some of our prominent reference center already publishing data, demonstrating that our HIFU technology provides unmatched potency and accuracy marks another important milestone in our U.S. market penetration strategy. And now our CFO, François Dietsch, will provide some details of our financial results. François?

Franois Dietsch

executive
#4

Thank you, Marc. Good morning, everyone. Please note that all figures, except for percentages, are in euros. For conversion purposes, our average euro-dollar exchange rate was $1.1832 for the third quarter of 2020 and $1.1319 for the first 9 months of 2020. Total revenue for the third quarter of 2020 was EUR 9.4 million, a decrease of 8.5% compared to total revenue of EUR 10.3 million for the same period in 2019. Third quarter of 2020 revenue reflects the impact of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic on equipment sales. Total revenue in the HIFU business for the third quarter of 2020 was EUR 2.6 million, a 7.9% decrease compared to EUR 2.8 million for the third quarter of 2019. During the quarter, we sold 2 Focal One versus 2 last year. Total revenue in the LITHO business for the third quarter of 2020 was EUR 2.4 million, a 27.6% decrease compared to EUR 3.3 million for the third quarter of 2019. Total revenue in the distribution business for Q3 2020 was EUR 4.4 million, a 6.4% increase compared to EUR 4.2 million for the third quarter of 2019, thanks to the Exact Imaging sales development. Gross profit for the third quarter of 2020 was EUR 4 million compared to EUR 4.7 million for the year-ago period. Gross profit margin and net sales was 42% in the third quarter of 2020 compared to 45.3% in the year-ago period. The decline in gross profit year-over-year was mainly due to the lower sales level as compared to the year-ago period, driven primarily by COVID-19. Operating loss for the third quarter of 2020 was EUR 0.3 million compared to an operating profit of EUR 0.3 million in the third quarter of 2019. Net loss for the third quarter of 2020 was EUR 1 million or EUR 0.03 per diluted share as compared to net income of EUR 0.8 million or EUR 0.03 per diluted share in the year-ago period. Turning to the 9 months of 2020. Total revenue for the first 9 months of 2020 was EUR 26.3 million, a decrease of 20.1% compared to total revenue of EUR 32.9 million for the same period in 2019. As mentioned, the first 9 months of 2020 revenue reflects the fact of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic on the company's activities. Gross profit for the first 9 months of 2020 was EUR 11.4 million, compared to EUR 15.9 million for the year-ago period. Gross profit margin and net sales was 43.2% for the first 9 months of 2020, compared to 48.2% in the year-ago period. The decline in gross profit year-over-year was mainly due to lower sales in the HIFU business driven by COVID-19. Operating loss for the first 9 months of 2020 was EUR 1.5 million, compared to an operating profit of EUR 2.1 million for the same period of 2019. Net loss for the first 9 months of 2020 was EUR 2.5 million or EUR 0.09 per diluted share, as compared to a net income of EUR 2.5 million or EUR 0.08 per diluted share in the year-ago period. Finally, we finished the third quarter with a very strong cash balance. Cash and cash equivalents, including the short-term treasury investments, were EUR 19.9 million at the end of September 2020 or USD 23.4 million using a euro-dollar conversion rate of $1.1723. As announced earlier, we received during the third quarter, 2 COVID-related loans guaranteed by the French government totaling EUR 4 million. These loans carry very favorable terms, interest rate at 0.25% for the first year with a repayment term of 1 year, which can be extended to 5 years. These French loans added to other COVID-related assistance already received during the second quarter. We received EUR 0.2 million from the U.S. Paycheck Protection Program that, as you probably know, is forgivable if certain conditions are met. And we received another loan of EUR 0.4 million from a Japanese COVID-related assistance program, which carried an interest rate of 1.8% and is repayable beginning in 2 years. Let me now turn the call back to Marc.

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#5

Thank you, François. In closing, the third quarter was the strongest of the year thus far, despite the challenges caused by the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. We believe that our strong cash position and efforts to grow our sales pipeline globally has positioned us well to seize 2020. We will now open the call to your questions. Operator?

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Brooks O'Neil with Lake Street Capital Markets.

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#7

I hope things are not too difficult in Lyon for you during the COVID crisis?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#8

Brooks, well, it's not the easiest, but we're managing and navigating through it. Thanks for asking.

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#9

Yes, good for you guys. So obviously, it's a challenging environment to sell systems. But I'm curious if you're able to find ways to continue generating physician interest in the HIFU for prostate? And if you have any comments on how that's going?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#10

Yes. Actually, it's true that it's difficult to generate equipment revenue or even activity in the hospital as everything is pretty much focused on the COVID-19 management. But as we explained, I mean we continued to do a lot of educational sessions using webinar and also taking the opportunity of more time available from the urologists. So we continue to do a lot of marketing and a lot of communication towards our users, our prospects, leads, and also by our distributors. So that's one of the positive part of that is that, again, most of those doctors not really involved directly in the management of COVID have more time for discussion, or for training, or for education also on new technologies. So that's -- as a result of that, we've seen an increase -- a continued increase in our pipeline of projects and leads, which is good. Now the question is, will we be able to access management, purchasing department, legal in the hospital so that we can bring those new prospects to deals.

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#11

Right. That's the $800 question for everybody. It sounds like the partnership with ExactVu is going well. Are you pleased with that? Is it more or less on schedule? Or would you say it's even going better than you had hoped?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#12

Well, we're very pleased with it. I mean, again, the -- everything that we have -- we had anticipated in terms of synergies between the product is really here. It's really helping us well to drive the pipeline of projects and to get the attention from urologists and from the hospitals. It has also allowed us to kind of build some very aggressive offering of -- like the bundled deals or these kind of things. And no, we're very happy. And like we said, we've sold 3 machines during the second quarter as we got started in June and another 8 during the second quarter (sic) [ third quarter ], which is good, and it's probably over our expectation.

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#13

That's great. So you mentioned, Marc, the expectations for the Category 1 CPT code. My feeling is that's going to be a big deal for you guys. Is there anything specific that you've heard from FDA or the reimbursement folks in terms of that code? Or is it just sort of the expected time frame of dollar figure sometime here in December probably and then going live in January?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#14

No, that's following the normal process in -- again, usually, the final rule is released by CMS somewhere around Thanksgiving. We expect some delay this year as it was for the proposed rule. So probably somewhere in December we might have all the final numbers for next year. And again, we'll keep you guys updated once we have some news.

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#15

Yes, that will be a big deal for you guys, I think. So can you just -- you talked about the endometriosis trial, but sort of when are you thinking you get through all of that, maybe be able to have an indication for endometriosis, and I think you alluded to HIFU for other indications even beyond endometriosis. And I'm curious if you could even -- I mean I don't need the specifics, but I'm curious if you can give an example of 1 or 2 additional areas where you think HIFU might have applicability?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#16

Sure. No, we're also working on earlier stage research and development programs for other indications, and that includes pancreas -- pancreatic cancer, liver metastasis. But these are earlier stage developments, and we are not yet in terms of patient treatments.

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#17

Sure. And what's the timing on endometriosis?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#18

Sorry, can you repeat that again?

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#19

What's the timing for the Phase II? And then how long would a Phase III trial for endometriosis be?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#20

So the Phase II, I mean, as I said, we have 38 patients to treat in 5 institutions in France. We've already -- I mean we got started in September, and we've already enrolled and treated 6 patients and we have another 3 that are planned to be treated in December. So we'll be probably around 10 patients by the end of the year. We -- then we -- the uncertainty on conducting clinical studies in the environment gives -- I mean makes it difficult to really anticipate the exact time of the -- of completing the enrollment. But the good news as well on the protocol that was approved by the French health authorities is that the follow-up period is only 6 months. So overall, it should be a pretty short study from, I mean, enrollment and follow-up. And then again, based on what we achieved on the Phase II, we'll certainly conduct a Phase III.

Brooks O'Neil

analyst
#21

Congratulations. I know it's a difficult environment, but it sounds like you're making tremendous progress.

Operator

operator
#22

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew D'Silva with B. Riley Securities.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#23

Congrats on the progress. So just to start, and I very much appreciate the additional financial information you provided this quarter. Could you just let us know, if possible, what stock-based comp was during the quarter? And then I was also curious if you could let me know what ESWL and HIFU systems placements were during the quarter if possible.

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#24

Can you repeat the beginning of the question, Andrew? Sorry, I didn't hear you well.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#25

No worries. Stock-based compensation, if you have that figure for the quarter? I'm just curious what it was. And then if you could just also let me now know what ESWL and HIFU system placements were during the quarter?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#26

So François will answer you on the stock-based compensation. As far as the unit placement, as we said earlier in the call, we sold 2 Focal One units during the quarter, similar -- same number as last year. And in lithotripsy, we sold, I think...

Franois Dietsch

executive
#27

In lithotripsy, we sold 4 devices this quarter versus 7 last year.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#28

Okay. And the Ablatherm, there was no Ablatherm assistance placed?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#29

No.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#30

Okay. Okay. Perfect. And are you able to find the stock-based comp? Or do you need a little more time?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#31

In a minute. Maybe if you have another question, meanwhile you can follow it.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#32

Yes, yes. Also curious, just what engagement's been like with potential customers since the proposed reimbursement came out? And have there been any discussions with private payers since the proposed reimbursement came out and maybe give a little sense of what it's historically been like from previous experiences? Did it typically start to mature or evolve with customers and private payers while the proposed reimbursements out there? Or do you have to actually wait and see for the -- what the finalized reimbursement is to get that kind of traction?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#33

No. Usually, the process is that we get the code in force and in use, and then that will be in January when the final rule will be released and then the CPT will be in force next year. And then when you start using it, you start getting the coverage and getting the claims submitted to the different [ match ] of CMS around the country. And that's when you get to the point that you can start lobbying and discussing with the commercial payers and private insurances. So it was still too early, but we -- I mean, soon, in 6 weeks from now, we'll be able to get started on all those kind of actions.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#34

Okay. Very useful. And my last question is just related to the cadence in the fourth quarter. Can you maybe give a little bit of color around that? Are you seeing any change in traction from equipment sales quarter-over-quarter? Or is the fourth quarter a situation where you expect much of the heavy lifting as it relates to revenue recognition to take place in the last couple of weeks? I know that's the trend typically. But with the holidays in the fourth quarter, I wasn't sure if placements come in earlier than typically seen in the quarter.

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#35

Well, I mean, again, the fourth quarter is usually the strongest, is very critical in terms of the yearly results. We see -- I mean, of course, there is a lot of excitement. Of course, there's a lot of pressure as well to get deals done by the end of the year, and everything will -- I mean, again, the most important month of the quarter is December. So everything will be -- I mean a lot of things will be done during the month of December, and it will go until the end of the month, like usual. So there is -- I mean there is less or more traction. There is a lot of excitement. We've also been working on making very aggressive offers as well to help in terms of -- not only in terms of conditions but also in terms of financings and working with partners to offer our customers a very interesting condition in the context so that they can make decision and close deals before the end of the year. So we're -- I mean, everybody is on the field trying to close deals. And again, we'll see the results of that within the next 6 weeks.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#36

But just anecdotally, as it looks with the pipeline and engagement with customers, would you believe that, that same quarterly trend seasonality will continue this year as far as the fourth quarter most likely being the strongest quarter of the year? Or anecdotally speaking, do you feel like that isn't the case?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#37

Anecdotically speaking, it's a fourth quarter of COVID-19 year, which makes it completely different or unpredictable. And to answer your question, I mean there are 2 things. One is that our pipeline of projects and leads has never been that big. So we have plenty of projects to work on. Now the uncertainty is the ability to close deal and the ability for the hospital or for the health care system to navigate normal business activity within the current environment. So as I said, I mean, we're trying to be creative and have a lot of initiatives to kind of help those hospitals and health care systems to make the right decision and get the process done despite the environment. So that will be the real challenge, and that's the unpredictable and unknown situation that we are facing within the context of COVID-19, but again, we are doing our best effort to try to offer solutions.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#38

Okay, great color. If you have -- don't have a stock-based comp, I can just take it offline. But...

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#39

We do. François just is ready to answer that.

Franois Dietsch

executive
#40

Yes. The impact on the quarter is EUR 30,000.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#41

Could you repeat that one more time?

Franois Dietsch

executive
#42

On the quarter, it's EUR 30,000.

Andrew D'Silva

analyst
#43

Congrats on the progress during the third quarter.

Operator

operator
#44

Our next question comes from the line of Swayampakula Ramakanth with H.C. Wainright.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

analyst
#45

This is RK from H.C. Wainright. So couple of questions. On the -- within the HIFU sales, we see the sales from leases and the RPPs either being stable or actually growing. So -- and as you were talking about trying to become creative in terms of how to generate revenues, do you think -- with all the budgetary constraints due to COVID and also from trying to be careful how much monies these different organizations will be able to outlay, do you think it's much easier to go the leasing route rather than an outright sale, especially for a device like HIFU? What's the appetite for that? And also, how are you able to navigate those uncomfortable conversations with the organizations out there?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#46

Actually, this is part of the options that we're offering, and we also have been able to design with a number of leading companies with one we partner for long-term lease or even short-term lease capital operationally. So we have all the options, and this is really depending from one hospital to the other, from one project to the other. But again, the idea for us is really to have the most -- the broadest potential offering in terms of financing so that we can answer most of the needs.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

analyst
#47

Perfect. Talking about distribution, congratulations on the Italian distribution collaboration that you just announced recently. Also looking into the distribution part of the revenue line, it certainly has been growing, and I would think ExactVu is adding to it. So when you look at your leads out there for not only fourth quarter but also for later, how much of that synergies is really working to your benefit? And also do you see that part of the revenue line becoming more of an important growth item within your revenues, not only for '21 but also beyond?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#48

Yes. I think the -- again, what works very well is the synergy between the usual -- the product we have in distribution and the product we are manufacturing ourselves. And that's really the -- the idea is to grow both type of equipment and business sales. And it's working pretty well. You took the example of ExactVu. And again, ExactVu really works well with Focal One, first of all, because it's a good complement, but also because it really gives us a unique offering on the management of prostate cancer using focal approach, which is, again, the big growing strategy of treating prostate cancer, and that's making a lot of sales. So I think the 2 types of businesses, distribution and manufacturing products, are really working in the same direction. And the way we choose and the way we decide also to implement new distribution products is really to help, first of all, growing -- I mean for outgrowing our global business but also to help as well growing our homegrown technology like HIFU and Focal One.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

analyst
#49

Great. And then the last question from me is on endometriosis. You stated that you have 6 women in the trial at this point. Do you plan to wait for all the 38 women to go through the 6 month follow-up before you announce the data from the study, or would we be able to see some data in the interim without waiting for the complete study to come to completion?

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#50

We'll see, and it will clearly depend on the pace of recruitment and enrollment that we have, and if we're able to continue on that pace, which, again, it's really depending on the context. As you know, most of the clinical studies are on hold now, and we've been very lucky to be able to do that and to continue to treat. Actually, we are very happy to have the confirmation of the slots for the treatment of the 3 other patients in December. So if we're able to recruit quickly, we might not need to go on interim results. Then if we have some -- if it takes us some time to recruit the entire 38 women for the trial, then we may want to give interim results. So it will depend on the speed of enrollment and treatment. And again, we are making our best effort to do that as quick as possible. And again, because the follow-up is 6 months only, so it's a very short period of time. So we might not need to get some interim results of the publication.

Swayampakula Ramakanth

analyst
#51

Congratulations on this -- on what you have achieved so far, especially with the difficult COVID situation going on, and good luck for the fourth quarter and beyond.

Operator

operator
#52

[Operator Instructions] Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Oczachowski for any final comments.

Marc Oczachowski

executive
#53

Thank you, operator. And again, thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Again, stay safe, and we are looking forward to updating you very soon as we're making some progress. You all have a nice day and stay safe. Bye-bye.

Operator

operator
#54

Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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