Elite Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (ELTP) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 17, 2021

OTC Pink Market US Health Care Pharmaceuticals earnings 38 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Elite Pharmaceuticals Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Before management begins speaking, the company has the following statement. Elite would like to remind their listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to changes at any time, including, but not limited to statements about Elite's expectations regarding future operating results. Forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Federal Securities laws and represent management's current expectations. Actual results may differ materially. Elite disclaims any obligation to update or revise its forward-looking statements, except as required by law. More complete information regarding forward-looking statements, risks and uncertainties can be found in the reports Elite filed with the SEC, which are available on Elite's website at elitepharma.com under the Investor Relations section. Elite encourages you to review these documents carefully. With that covered, it is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Nasrat Hakim, President and Chief Executive Officer of Elite Pharmaceuticals. Sir, the floor is yours.

Nasrat Hakim

executive
#2

Thank you, Kate, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us today. My name is Nasrat Hakim. I am Elite's Chairman and CEO. This is our earnings call. And our new CFO, Marc Bregman will give us a summary of the company's financials, after which, I'll come back with the corporate update and answer some of the questions that you submitted to Dianne. Marc, you have the floor.

Marc Bregman

executive
#3

Thank you, Nasrat, and thanks, everyone, for calling in today. Yesterday, we filed our 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2021. We're on a March fiscal year, so the June quarter is our first quarter of fiscal 2022. A copy of the 10-K is available in our Investors section of our website at elitepharma.com. Today, I'll give an overview of the financials and some commentary as well. As always, we received questions and comments from shareholders and Elite followers, and we will do our best to address those questions today. Starting with the income statement; we posted sales of $7.1 million this fiscal quarter, down 6% compared to the same time last year. Manufacturing revenue was down due to timing of shipments as Lannett was building inventory last year, although this was slightly offset by better sales of our other products and stronger licensing fees. Again, our largest product remains the generic version of Adderall, for which we have a strong partner in Lannett. Despite lower sales, however, we posted an operating profit of $1 million, which is $100,000 higher than last year. This is due to a stronger margin of 14% compared to 11% last year. We posted net income of $2.4 million for the quarter. This included a positive fair value adjustment on our derivatives and the sale of past tax benefits. Net income after adjusting for these one-time or non-cash benefits on both the years was $919,000 for the quarter, $130,000 higher than last year. Now turning over to our balance sheet; our working capital continues to grow to $8.5 million, up $2.1 million from year-end. This is directly due to cash flow from operations combined with low debt. So to reiterate, although sales were lower, simply due to timing, a strong margin resulted in income growth versus last year. As I mentioned last call, we continue to have revenue growth in our organic base, but it is the generic Adderall that continues to stand out as our main growth driver. Elite is strong and growing. With that, I'd like to turn over to Nasrat to give an overview of the company.

Nasrat Hakim

executive
#4

Thank you, Marc. Our last conference call was only 8 weeks ago. During that call, I outlined Elite's calls for the next 2, 2.5 years. In today's update, I'll make a few comments about Elite's financials. Then I'll update you on safety, manufacturing facility and commercial products, our R&D pipeline, and then we'll go to Q&A. As Marc stated, our revenues for this quarter were $7.1 million. If you recall, last quarter, we were in the $4 million range; last quarter, ending in March of 2021. That wasn't because sales declined, that was because we had not sold what they had in inventory and did not replace it all. Why do I think that? Because the profit split we got from the quarter before where the sales were in the $6 million, $7 million range were about the same. So that really determines how much the sales are. Depleting the inventory is a standard practice in the pharmaceutical industry. Sometimes they build it and you see a fact that might talk about. And sometimes, they depleted when they reach equilibrium and they have money. Depletion is standard practice in the pharmaceutical industry and a fast rate is money for the company, too. But it does have its downside as well. The bottom line from all of this is the following: the sales and profits from Amphetamine IR and ER are solid and getting better. As you know, revenues from the last 3 years went up from $7.5 million to $18 million to $25 million. 2 years ago, $18 million in revenues was the best year ever for Elite. Last year, when we earned $25 million in revenues, that was -- that became our best year ever. I believe that the current year is shaping up to be our best year ever yet in revenues and profit split. You would think that higher revenues and profits would lead to higher stock price. I understand a lot of things about this business, but I do not understand the rationale for Elite stock movement. It seems to be inversely proportional to our performance. The better we do, the worst the stat debts. The stock was higher when we were broke and had to sell shares to survive, than it is now when we are profitable, self-sufficient and self-sustaining. As I updated you before, if you look at the generic sector as a whole, you'll find that the first price of the majority, not all, the majority of the companies have been depressed over the past 5 years. I look and compared 5 stocks this morning. Teva, Perrigo, Amneal, Lannett, Dr. Reddy's. 4 of the 5 stocks, Teva, Perrigo, Lannett and Amneal declined between 60% and 85% in value over the past 5 years while only one, Dr. Reddy's, increased by 30% over the past 5 years. And just to be accurate, Dr. Reddy's increased over the past 1.5 years or so because they changed their business model, and they were following the same pattern as everybody else, but they recovered and to their credit they're ahead. The most interesting part is their P/E ratios. 3 of the 5 had a negative P/E ratio. Their earnings per share are negative, they're losing money. They're Perrigo, Lannett and Teva. Dr. Reddy's and Amneal had a positive P/E ratio. Dr. Reddy's P/E ratio is 45, Amneal's is 87. Elite, like most companies in the industry, have declined from $0.17 to $0.045 or $0.05 over the past 5 years. Our P/E ratio is 6. If we are treated like Dr. Reddy's or Amneal, not like the other 3 that are losing money, just like Dr. Reddy's and Amneal, our stock price would be $0.33 or $0.65 today, just based on substituting their P/E ratio for ours. This is not the only metric to assess a company's value. There are other metrics that are used for company valuation. And we fared very well under those metrics as well. An example will be we have very low debt. The tide will turn. In due time, the stock should go up. In the meantime, we need to stay focused and stay the course and procure our business, starting with our employees and employee safety. Regarding safety, we are operating in a once in a lifetime pandemic. COVID-19 is a pandemic that is affecting all of us. It is affecting Elite, our suppliers, service providers and sales and marketing partners, not only in our business, it's affecting every business. We are following local and federal guidelines on the CDC recommendation. Most of our employees are vaccinated. We are still asking everyone to social distance as much as possible. We are holding meetings via Microsoft Team and conference calls for employees that must be in the same manufacturing suite, we've increased the airflow and circulation. And in addition to hyperfiltration, with installed UV lamps to ensure that viruses and bacteria reach an air conditioning or a heating ventilation system, they will get killed before they enter someone else's office. All non-essential employees have been given the option to work from home. At Elite, we have invested in our employees and it's paid off. We protected them, and they are protecting our business. Elite's business has not been materially affected by COVID yet because we do have multiple sources for many of our materials. We have been able to manage this problem well, and I hope that we continue. This pandemic is going to be around for generations, and it is most likely to morph from an epidemic to endemic. An endemic is when a disease continues to flourish up in certain parts. It's going to be very hard to get rid of this virus. And therefore, we need to manage our business accordingly, and that is why I update you on safety every single time we talk. I have my eye on the ball because even with APIs that we make in the U.S. and Elite buy from a U.S. source, it still scares me because some of the components that could go into that API could be coming from India and China or a country that's infected with a severe case of the COVID-19, even Latin America. On the R&D front, of course, our objective is to grow our commercial pipeline, and we can only do that by investing in R&D and/or purchase new products. Protecting and improving our current commercial product line is key to continuing profitability. The protection part is a joint effort with our sales and marketing partner. We provide them a product with a reasonable transfer price so they can compete. That's our part of it. And they need to penetrate the market and compete with that price. Now expanding the product line is a function of R&D. I shared Elite's call with you 8 weeks ago. So let me recap. Our goal over the next 2.5 years is to continue profitability, continue to upgrade our manufacturing facility, stay cash flow positive, maintain adequate working capital and the rest of the money will be invested in R&D or new product purchases. I get advice from our stockholders telling me to go into the vaccine business because it's lucrative and that's what's happening lately. We cannot do that. In R&D, we have to select the right product that fits our portfolio and can be made at our facility. For example, we're not considered to make injectable streams arrangement. That requires a totally different technology of laminar air and bacterial control and a purified water of higher standard injectable standard. We do not have that. We will pass on that opportunity. I know somebody is offering us the product line and the facility. Opportunities that include controlled or non-controlled substances that are orally administrated either tablet or capsule that are instant release, delayed release or extended release, which sit within our portfolio. These are the things we keep looking for. Once we identified the product and begin reverse engineering, it takes years and a lot of time and money before we run a pivotal clinical trial. I'm telling you this because you'll understand that the first I'm promising we're going to take care -- for end of a year. We have been working for a long time on these products. Many formulations do not materialize into clinical trials of filing because of multiple things you encounter throughout the life of the development process. You may fail the first second and third time before you finally can run a clinical trial or get successful clinical trial and file. SunGen, which has great scientist, success rate was about 25% on the products they worked with us on. We do a lot of force behind the scenes that the public does not know about or hereof. Our goal is to pass and/or file for ANDAs before December 2022. You can do the math and determine how many ANDAs we must be working on our work on to get for viable ANDAs in 2022. Now let me be clear, the formulations that do not work the first, second time are not a last. They can be reworked. You learn from the errors, and you learn what not to do, and you can come back and try again. But that cost delays, time and money. Financial permitting, we intend to do this next year as well, conduct for more clinical trials and file more ANDAs. And hopefully, by then, we still fruit for labels where the first 4 we filed we will be in the process of getting approvals for. This plan is a critical part of getting to and sizing on NASDAQ. On the commercial front, we are profitable and our commercial products and sales and marketing partners are key to continuing profitability. We cannot do it alone. Amphetamine IR and ER continues to be the highest contributors to revenues and profit. Lannett is doing well at market penetration. This quarter's profit split was the highest we have had to date, and I expect that trend to continue. Isradipine and Phentermine are with our partner, Epic. These 2 products are interesting because they have limited competition. Each one has only one competitor in the market. Glenmark, our previous partner, was not able to give them the attention we believe they deserve. We expect Epic to be more effective in the marketing of Isradipine and Phentermine. Let me make a comment in here. It is about market penetration when we have 15, 20 players. But when you're the only one in the market or there's 2 it's about the price adjustment. And when X of us are selling this product, we were making millions. Glenmark was selling them a small little margin above cost. And that is not the way to handle it. That's why we reverted to Epic, hoping that they know how to sell these products. Tagi is doing well with naltrexone and the bariatrics. They are running second in sales of the bariatric compared to KBK, which had 85% of the market, we have about 16%. But we hope that Tagi will capture a larger share of the market as KVK solve their problems with the FDA and the federal government. KVK got in trouble with the FDA. Their owner and the Head of the Quality were invited because apparently, instead of using the suppliers that their and approved the FDA, they bought products from Mexico, which was not approved and a lot cheaper, and we're competing with that for hydroxyzine. So the FDA and the federal governments invited them and they are under investigation, and that could materialize the business for Elite. Loxapine, Prasco is our partner there. We've launched Loxapine capsules in June with Prasco under the label Burel Pharmaceutical. Loxapine continues to be on product surface list, and we hope that Prasco does well with that. Elite is executing one of the growth plans, obtaining product approvals and launching new products. Our sales and marketing partners are performing well. We look forward to another successful year.

Nasrat Hakim

executive
#5

We received a lot of questions that Dianne, as always, was kind enough to group them and put them on several categories. So I'll go ahead and start with the first on the pipeline. Is Elite considering buying additional assets less drugs or is the plan to develop them in house? Actually, it's both. Elite evaluates all types of opportunities, whether it is buying ANDAs, contract manufacturing, developing or co-developing our own ANDAs. We find generally that developing our own ANDAs is the most attractive. In the last CC, Nasrat that there would be 4 ANDAs filed in each of the next 2 years. Was he referring to calendar or fiscal year? Calendar year. Can you please provide more color as to the 4 ANDAs that will be submitted in 2022, market size, age drugs using about technology or not. I wish I could. First, for competitive reasons, I can. But second, as I explained a few minutes ago, we run a dozen projects and let's say, for end up for this year. Okay. So I don't know it's for them to end up really being the ones. But I can promise you this. We will disclose that information when it's appropriate. And there will be instant release, the laser is or extended to be tablets or capsules, and they will -- may or may not contain control substance. It will shift into our portfolio. COVID impact. The question is last conference call Mr. Hakim mentioned that API might be a concern since the problems with COVID in India. Is Elite still having these concerns or is the company able to source API to manufacture the medications? Our API and other materials are sourced from many different companies spread all over Europe and also Asia. We have not experienced supply chain and production as a result of COVID. And whatever interruption would encounter, it really is not material. We did have one part of clinical trial that was a put on hold and then continued in India because of COVID-19. That part of the CP was completed, and the results were provided. As I stated before, my concern is not for today because today, we have absolutely no material impact on the Elite. My concern is as this economic lingers on, is there going to be a concern in the future? I'm trying to be ready now to address that issue before it becomes a bigger problem than it already is. We had several questions on Adderall. I'll read 3 of them because they have some different flavors, and then I'll answer that. As the generic Adderall, IR has been great market penetration, should create market pentation. These are products which has been in the market for about 16 months, now is hardly showing any significant sales. Not true, but let's go on. Can you shed some light as to why this may be? And what Lannett is doing to start moving the product as this is the drug that really should have pushed us to the next level? Our expectation for Adderall ER were multiple of what we are seeing are sales, what you were expecting. If not, what is holding us back? And what is its potential contribution to revenues in 2022? May I have insight or guidance as to the relative flat earnings from Adderall and generic product? Is this the limitation of the quota or Lannett not penetration in the market? Okay, I don't want us to blame Lannett or be up on the Lannett because I do believe they are doing a decent job from the standpoint of sales and marketing. So let me frame this in the right form. Amphetamine IR has 11 competitors. Each and everyone is trying to other and get into the top company, CD as margin a Walmart and Cardinal Health and McKesson and our 8 competitors in ER. The first problem we encountered, if you recall, was the delayed entry. First from the government, the FDA did not have resources and they actually delayed our application by a year. We were supposed to be number 4. When you give somebody a product that there are 3 other competitors and were number 4, it's a little bit of suffice. When you give them 8 competitors, it's a much bigger fight, okay? So I don't want to blame, Lannett. We got to where we got. And by that time, we were one of 8. There was a rational of control subset the time that had minimal impact, not really much. But the last portion is the market penetration. So let me explain that. In my base of action, whenever we have market penetration, we waited when the bids came on. Let's say, for example, CBS. CBS does not call people as a single day see if they can buy a drug from them cheaper. They have you bid on certain products or products once a year. For the rest of the year, you got that contract till they come in late and say, what have you done for me lately and try to share lower price review or they put it for big with others, okay? So when a product is only -- a little more than a year old, it tells you that Lannett has only had 1 or 2 shots at getting in. And every single time you bid, you learn from that and see how you need to go lower or higher or help adjust the pricing. Now they have penetrated very well into the IR market, way beyond my expectations because, frankly, the first approval was maybe in 2012, and we did not go into the game until much, much later. I expect them to do the same with ER. It's just a matter of time. And I expect, as I said earlier, the revenues and profit splits from the IR and ER will grow. Another question about Lannett; with Lannett comping in the low profitable drug marketing, have we been impacted? Let me explain the question. Every company has contacts or tree do not bring in any profit, but they use them as a basket, so they can get their foot into the door and they sell it to a Costco or sardine or whatever, and then that will give them an end to sell other products there. Lannett evaluated the product line and come down several products that they don't believe are profitable or they are really not worth their time. There is absolutely more impact on the Elite product whatsoever. We are not in that category. Next question is about payment, or salary and stocks. Will HM consider taking his salary and bonus in all cash then purchase Elite share on the open market? This is funny, okay? The first part is valid. The second one is funny. I used to get 100% of my compensation in stocks, which meant at the end of the year, I had to pay 50% of my salary equivalent to 50% of my salary to work at Elite. A while back, the Board changed that half and half. So now I just work for free. They have cost to the government and has issued in a piece paper that mark now in the old based used to store somewhere. I hope and I would love to see the Board pay me 100% in cash next year. Now the reason I've never pushed for that is because we need the money. Even now when we were profitable at the end of the day, you saw Marc's numbers, you make $1 million. That's not a heck for a lot of money for R&D, and that's why we're partnering with doing other things in order to increase that number. So for me to tap into that, I don't have the hard to do it, okay? When we are much more profitable, nothing would please me than be making cash and actually taken it to the bank. All right. Another question, again, every single quarter, everybody asks about the purchase of the SunGen ownerships and Adderall and Mikah. I have answered that question every single quarter for the past now past quarters. If you wish to hear the answer, go back and read all transcript, I'm not going to address again because right now, the question is just being asked to be asked. We have addressed this, Carter's addressed this. The Board's addressed this. We're done with that. We've purchased -- Mikah has purchased SunGen's share in Amphetamine IR and ER, and that is so much better for us than another company doing it. Please comment on the development agreement with Mikah included with the 10-Q. Marc, could you take that, please?

Marc Bregman

executive
#6

Sure Nasrat. Yes, well, Elite continues to carefully allocate our development capital to use it wisely, however, we've done, for example, an agreement with SunGen when developing new products. The deal with Mikah is modeled after that agreement. It allows Elite to execute a greater number of development projects with the support of another party. Although we develop part of the profit through profit splits, it allows us to do a greater number of projects and diversify our risk. In a difficult and highly competitive generic industry, diversifying our risk is very important, and this is why we do this.

Nasrat Hakim

executive
#7

Thank you, Marc. Okay. The next question is says it's financial in nature. And this is an interesting question. And I can read the whole thing I did a part of it. A number of shareholders are now worried that your strategy has now pivoted from your original goal to list Elite on NASDAQ to taking Elite private. Perhaps this is crazy speculation? Yes, it is. That said, shareholder discussion centers around your controlling interest of both Elite and Mikah and that by taking Elite private, you could then merge both companies and sell both companies as one entity leaving shareholders with nothing. If this is closing, please tell us on Tuesday's conference call. This is not crazy. This past crazy a few miles ago, insane. I enjoy as much as mutating about conspiracy theories and fake news and all of that, but this is silly. So let me officially unequivocally state. Taking Elite private has not been discussed at all, ever, by me, by the Board of Directors, by Dianne, by Marc, by Chris by anybody at Elite. As a public company, Elite will be required to go through an extensive process to go private. I looked through that at actives on time. And again, this has not been discussed. And why hasn't been discussed because nobody brought to my tension that, hey, if we do this, it benefits Elite shareholders, none. Elite start subject to the volatility of being on the OTC. The price is down right now. Our strategy to get it up is to develop, file and launch new products to increase our revenues and profits and shareholders' value. All this constructive stuff you hear about taking Elite private and depriving the stockholders or having majority control is not true. Our focus on Elite is to make Elite profitable and get us to a place where the stock price is less volatile and less subject to manipulation. And manipulation doesn't mean somebody is doing something illegal. A lot of people do manipulate the stock legally. One form of manipulation is with the folks from Robinhood, you can buy a stock or 2 or $5 of Elite money or fewer money to buy Elite share and try to feel how people want to sell it and start taking it down. These kind of things don't happen in NASDAQ. Negative comments like this and conspiracy theories scare people off. That's a form of repulsion. But anyway, all of that is trite stuff we are focused on delivering, and we are delivering positive results and profitability. Partnership; do you see any new partnership on the horizon? If I did, I couldn't disclose that for you, okay? We talked to a lot of companies, and most of it doesn't materialize because the businesses don't are not in synch. Do not fit, if you will. We are always open to evaluate opportunities that make financial benefits for Elite. And we do have a contorted right now. We have Prasco and Lannett and Nike and ADI. We have a lot of partners. We need products. Uplifting; are we still on track for a NASDAQ move in 2022? So let me say this, moving to NASDAQ continues to be an objective as discussed in past calls. Elite's revenues and profits to date support this mix. And with continued new product launches, we're going to get there. We have the fundamentals to make a move to NASDAQ by 2022. The only issue that I had to settle in my mind and the Board is this, what do I do about the stock price? The stock is really depressed and I walked you through all the [indiscernible] you can go and look at [indiscernible] look at all of these guys and see what I'm telling you is 100% true and who assist like everything else will be much higher. I do not want to have a reverse split when you are at 5 frames. It needs to be a minimum in the 15% to 25% range, a minimum. And then there is a like period between having the reverse split and getting to NASDAQ and are people going to manipulate the stock down. There are nemesis for there or some lag others in here. But that is the only issue on my head on how do I work the details of getting us to NASDAQ other than that, the company, the employees and the partners have done well enough for us to be among those who are actually profitable, okay, and have fundamentals and a solid PE ratio. So 2022 remains a target. What we're going to do, we will keep you updated. That concludes our update for today. Thank you all for calling in, and have a wonderful day. We'll talk to you again in November.

Operator

operator
#8

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's presentation. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

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