Environmental Solutions Group (DOV) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 22, 2024

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Machinery m_and_a 46 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Greetings, and thank you for joining Terex's call about its planned acquisition of the Environmental Solutions Group from Dover Corporation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jon Paterson, Vice President and Treasurer.

Jon Paterson

executive
#2

Good morning, and thank you for joining us on short notice to discuss Terex' planned acquisition of the Environmental Solutions Group from Dover Corporation. A copy of the press release and presentation slides are posted on our Investor Relations website at investors.terex.com. In addition, the replay and slide presentation will be available on our website. We are joined by Simon Meester, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Julie Beck, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Their prepared remarks will be followed by Q&A. Please turn to Slide 2 of the presentation, which reflects our safe harbor statement. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. These risks are described for detail in the presentation and in our reports filed with the SEC. In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial information we believe is useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures can be found in the conference call materials. Please turn to Slide 3, and I'll turn it over to Simon Meester.

Simon Meester

executive
#3

Thank you, Jon. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call on what is an exciting day for Terex and our stakeholders. This morning, we announced that Terex has entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Environmental Solutions Group or ESG from Dover Corporation. Represents a significant milestone in our company's multiyear transformation and will amplify our ability to capitalize on the growth opportunities that lie ahead. ESG is the leader in the waste collection and recycling industry, designing best-in-class refuse collection vehicles and waste compaction equipment as well as related aftermarket equipment and digital solutions. ESG has a 100-plus year history and has a stellar portfolio of industry-leading product brands, widely respected for their quality, durability, reliability and unmatched service. I couldn't be more excited to welcome ESG to the Terex family. ESG also boasts a robust financial profile, an efficient operating model and a decade-long track record of strong, consistent organic growth. Their equipment, aftermarket and digital solutions provides predictable and recurring revenue streams, supported by an attractive margin profile with low capital intensity. Importantly, Terex and ESG also have highly aligned values and a shared commitment to best-in-class service, innovation and safety for every community we serve. I want to congratulate the entire ESG team on the excellent businesses it has built. ESG brings a deeply experienced bench of senior executives with broad industrial engineering and supply chain expertise led by its President, Pat Carroll. Please turn to Slide 4. This transaction is compelling for several reasons. First, with ESG joining our portfolio, we're adding meaningful scale and significantly reducing Terex cyclicality. ESG has demonstrated a sustained track record of resilient high single-digit organic growth through the cycle. Second, the transaction adds a financially accretive business ESG's EBITDA margin, including run rate synergies is expected to add 130 basis points of margin accretion. Terex will have approximately $1 billion in pro forma EBITDA. Third, we're delivering value creation by capturing tangible cost and revenue synergies. Terex expects approximately $25 million of identified synergies to be achieved by the end of 2026, largely driven by operational efficiencies and commercial opportunities. Fourth, we're adding the market leader in the growing waste collection and recycle industry. Waste is an attractive market and is projected to grow for years to come. Fifth, we're expanding our addressable market in North America. Our North America revenue exposure will increase to 65% and our total Terex addressable market opportunity expense to $40 billion. And lastly, we are reducing Terex capital intensity. ESG's efficient operating model with low net working capital will drive a meaningful improvement in free cash flow accretion for Terex. Altogether, we believe ESG is a very strong fit. Please turn to Slide 5. ESG demonstrated a track record of consistent resilient growth, delivering a plus 7% organic revenue CAGR over the last 10 years. ESG has made some very successful acquisitions in the past 10 years, including 3rd Eye and Soft Pak, key elements of its digital platform and Boivin enhancing its electrically powered refuse collection vehicle bodies. I would now like to turn the call over to Julie to discuss details of the transaction.

Julie Beck

executive
#4

Thank you, Simon. Please turn to Slide 6. We are acquiring ESG from Dover Corporation in a $2 billion all-cash transaction. When adjusted for the present value of expected tax benefits of approximately $275 million, the purchase price is $1.725 billion. This represents approximately 8.4x 2024 estimated EBITDA, including expected run-rate synergies. We expect annual run-rate synergies of approximately $25 million to be achieved by the end of 2026. These synergies are largely driven by operational efficiencies as well as commercial synergies. Given Terex and ESG's complementary product offerings and solutions, we expect to realize additional upside through digital offerings and cross-selling opportunities to existing and new customers. We have fully committed financing and expect to fund the transaction with cash on hand, and the combination of Term Loan B and Senior Unsecured Notes. We expect to maintain our strong balance sheet with a 2024 net leverage ratio of 2.2x net debt to EBITDA under Terex's 2.5x through-the-cycle net debt-to-EBITDA target. We expect net leverage to be below 2x by the end of 2025 with consistent deleveraging thereafter from an enhanced free cash flow profile. Ultimately, this deal will offer significant financial advantages to Terex's and its shareholders. By integrating a resilient and recurring revenue stream, we are reinforcing our market presence in a sector with a robust growth outlook. This acquisition not only enhances our scale, but also diversifies our revenue streams and end market mix, positioning us for sustained long-term success. We also expect this transaction to expand our EBITDA margins, reduce our capital intensity and be free cash flow accretive. We expect adjusted EPS to be double-digit percentage accretive in 2025 and to increase meaningfully thereafter. The transaction is expected to close in the second half of 2024, subject to regulatory approvals and customary closing conditions. Given ESG's proven track record of sustained growth and resilience through the cycle, we are confident that this transaction will enhance Terex's financial profile and create long-term value for our shareholders. One quick note before I pass it back to Simon. The purpose of this call this morning is to discuss our agreement to acquire ESG. We look forward to discussing our second quarter performance on our earnings call on July 31. I'll now turn it back to Simon.

Simon Meester

executive
#5

All right. Thanks, Julie. Please turn to Slide 7. Post transaction, we will be creating 3 market-leading business segments with a $40 billion total addressable market. This includes a $4 billion parts and services addressable market. Our Materials Processing segment will stay as is. Aerials will be its own reporting segment in our newly created third segment called Environmental Solutions will encompass ESG and our utilities business. This new segment, which serves a $6 billion addressable equipment market will be a clear customer-focused segment, supporting our goal to increase synergies across all of Terex. As of March 31, 2024, the new segment would have generated pro forma last 12 months' revenues of $1.4 billion and had a 15.8% EBITDA margin. Our Environmental Solutions segment will be #1 in waste collection vehicles, stationary compaction equipment in the U.S. and #2 in insulated utility vehicles in the U.S. Please turn to Slide 8. The combined business will be approximately $6.2 billion in pro forma sales and $960 million in pro forma EBITDA, inclusive of approximately $25 million of expected synergies. Terex and ESG's complementary portfolios will enhance diversification and reduce cyclicality. In addition, we will increase our exposure to the North American market and have approximately 24% of revenue tied to our newly created high-growth Environmental Solutions segment. We will also be increasing our exposure to the resilient and growing waste and recycling end market, which will now be 25% of our end market mix. Please turn to Slide 9. I'd like to focus on waste and recycling and what really excites us about our increased focus on this growing end market. As we all know, waste is an essential service and the demand for waste collection equipment and associated services has been consistently trending upward with projected market growth at a 5-plus CAGR over the next 10 years. We have strong conviction in the future of this market, especially as waste collection is the gateway to recycling which in itself, we consider to be a fast-growing market where we can leverage legacy businesses like Terex recycling systems, our sorting robust business and mobile waste shredders and material handlers. It will also give us an opportunity to further leverage emerging technologies in our portfolio like digital, electrification and robotics. Please turn to Slide 10. We are excited about the future of Terex plus ESG, and we believe the 2 are a perfect fit. It literally checks all the boxes. With that, we'll open the call for your questions. Operator?

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Stanley Elliott from Stifel.

Stanley Elliott

analyst
#7

Congratulations on the news. It sounds like a great fit. Simon, can you talk about kind of the electrification within the Heil portfolio and kind of the rest of the ESG business and how you see that progressing? When does that become a real meaningful part of the overall on that truck side and the collection side?

Simon Meester

executive
#8

Yes. Certainly, chassis are electrifying. I think that's well known. At what pace is to be determined. The markets seem to be moving more first to hybrid solutions than full electrical solutions at the moment. But then that's the chassis side, but you also have the body side. And with Boivin and ESG has a very competitive differentiated solution in terms of just an electrified body, which basically eliminates pretty much all of the hydraulics and really manage this contamination. So we believe that ESG is very, very nicely positioned for whatever pace the electrification might happen and whether it will be chassis first or whether it will be bodies first or both.

Stanley Elliott

analyst
#9

And they've got a nice kind of software portfolio with 3rd Eye and some other things in there. How quickly can you all kind of take the technologies from them and incorporate into Genie and other products or vice versa? Just curious kind of what the ramp might end up looking like for some of the software synergies within that.

Simon Meester

executive
#10

Yes, great question. Obviously, we're very excited about what ESG has built from a digital solution standpoint and not just on how it works, but it also actually delivers tangible benefit to their customers. And we believe maybe not so much in Genie right away, but we definitely believe that there are cross-selling opportunities in utilities. Obviously, you need to be careful when you work on live wires with whatever you have in the platform. But we do believe there is a technical road map there where we can start leveraging some of that work that ESG has done in our utilities business. And that might not be too far out. So very excited about that piece of the business as well.

Stanley Elliott

analyst
#11

Perfect. Congrats again and chat with you next week.

Operator

operator
#12

Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook from Truist Securities.

Jamie Cook

analyst
#13

Congratulations. I guess just 2 questions. Can you just unpack for me what the growth profile has been on the digital solutions business and where you think that business can be over longer term and the profitability relative to the overall mix? And then I guess just my second question, Yes. Julie, just comfort level with leverage just given the macro environment?

Simon Meester

executive
#14

Yes. Thanks, Jamie. Yes, definitely, digital has grown quite nicely. We're not attaching a specific number to it. Obviously, we need to be all aware that it's very much still a Dover business until we close, but definitely a fast-growing segment. And I forgot your second part -- your second question, Jamie, on the digital revenue growth.

Jamie Cook

analyst
#15

No, I was just trying to understand -- sorry, try to understand the margin profile of the business relative to the overall mix?

Simon Meester

executive
#16

Yes. On the margins, definitely industry standards and definitely accretive to ESG overall.

Julie Beck

executive
#17

And Jamie, on your leverage question, I feel confident that we're financing the transaction in a prudent manner. Our balance sheet is strong and pro forma for the transaction, we expect a net leverage ratio of 2.2x at the end of 2024, below our stated target of 2.5x through the cycle. And we expect our leverage to be below 2x by the end of 2025, and we'll have consistent deleveraging going forward from an enhanced free cash flow profile.

Operator

operator
#18

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Volkmann from Jefferies.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#19

Julie just a couple of modeling questions. How should we think about this tax benefit to $275 million and how that sort of plays out over the next few years as we model tax rate?

Julie Beck

executive
#20

Yes. So when you think about the tax rate, this is -- we're evaluating the benefit at $275 million. And so what happens is that, that will be a reduction in cash taxes going forward over time, over the next 10 years or so.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#21

Okay. So no change in book tax?

Julie Beck

executive
#22

Correct.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#23

Okay. Great. And then maybe just back to the electrical question. I can imagine that there might be a real ramp-up in R&D spending as we sort of transition to electric or other drivetrains. Is that something we should consider?

Simon Meester

executive
#24

I would say not a significant change. It's basically more a change in our R&D than a ramp-up in R&D, I would say.

Operator

operator
#25

Our next question comes from the line of David Raso from Evercore ISI.

David Raso

analyst
#26

Julie, did you say EPS accretion double digit, just so I understand what that means. I mean you're run rating around $7 of earnings, you expect the accretion of EPS next year to be above $0.70. Can you just define that? I have a follow-up on that.

Julie Beck

executive
#27

That's correct, David. You got -- that's correct. Those numbers are correct. On an adjusted EPS basis, we would expect the double-digit accretion.

David Raso

analyst
#28

And the funding rate for this, I know it's a blend of debt and cash on hand. What kind of funding rate? And do you feel you'll get the tax synergies quickly enough that we should be doing that rate on $1.725 billion or better to do it on the $2 billion? What's the blended rate? And what's...

Julie Beck

executive
#29

So we will be doing a combination of cash on hand, Term Loan B, and secure -- unsecured notes that will be the combination. We'll be looking to finance this over the coming months and interest rates will be determined at the time that we go to market.

David Raso

analyst
#30

Okay. But I mean, to get that kind of run rate just feels like it has to be around a blended 6% or something like that, not just on the debt, but the utilization of the cash as well. I'm just trying to get the numbers. And then real quick on the TAM. What caught my eye was that the change in the TAM, you went up $6 billion from $34 billion to $40 billion. Nothing changed on the existing businesses. But of that $6 billion increase, you increase your Parts and Service opportunity by $1.5 billion. So essentially 25% of the TAM increase was aftermarket and the business you acquired was only doing 18% aftermarket -- so I'm just curious, when you look at the business, what has you excited about the Parts and Service opportunity above and beyond what they were capturing? I'm just curious [indiscernible] and service, what has obviously [indiscernible] the margin profile. So I'm just trying to capture it.

Simon Meester

executive
#31

Yes. So there's a little bit of apples and oranges here because in the case of ESG, there's also The Curotto-Can acquisition that runs through some of those numbers. So maybe what we do is just we circle back with you, David, on this one because there's a little bit of detailed modeling behind it.

Julie Beck

executive
#32

The aftermarket, parts is remanufacturing. There's digital. There's all of these different things that make that up to you as well, David.

David Raso

analyst
#33

All right. Perfect. And the closing time, you just said roughly, I think, second half. Any help if you [indiscernible] trying to think should this be by the end of the third quarter? Or how...

Simon Meester

executive
#34

Q4.

Julie Beck

executive
#35

Q4.

Operator

operator
#36

Your next question comes from the line of Nicole DeBlase from Deutsche Bank.

Nicole DeBlase

analyst
#37

Congratulations. Maybe just on the synergies. Any more color on the timing of that $25 million, like what would come through in year 1? And then it sounds like there are some revenue synergies embedded in that $25 million number. Can you just give a split between cost and revenue synergies?

Julie Beck

executive
#38

Yes. So thanks for the question, Nicole. We expect annual synergies of approximately $25 million and we're expected to achieve that by the end of 2026. And those synergies are largely driven by procurement, supply chain efficiencies and some commercial initiatives as well.

Nicole DeBlase

analyst
#39

Okay. Okay. Got it. And then I guess you guys said I think you're expecting kind of a 5% growth rate over the next 10 years. But I think you also cited 7% CAGR over the last 10 years. So what's causing that step down? Is it something with where we are in the cycle of investment for refuse vehicles? Or maybe is there just some conservatism embedded in that multiyear outlook?

Simon Meester

executive
#40

Yes. So collection vehicles 5%, but collection vehicles and solute -- total solutions, 7%, then when you get into recycling, then it's actually in the double digits. So it depends on which subset of the market of waste and recycling you look at.

Operator

operator
#41

Our next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs.

Jerry Revich

analyst
#42

Congratulations. Simon, I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind just talking about the digital growth outlook from here in terms of where your offering fits into the digital plans that the major haulers have? Is there a revenue concentration towards regional versus waste haulers and how does the tie into your digital approach map to what the majors are doing in terms of their own [indiscernible] management systems, et cetera?

Simon Meester

executive
#43

Yes. I would just say we're just still very much at the beginning of kind of the digital value at here. Obviously, ESG has some very tangible solutions that bring very tangible returns for their customers but there are more use cases out there that we're working on -- that ESG is working on with their large customers. So there's still definitely upside in applying more digital solutions, think about additional safety features, think about additional reducing liabilities, service confirmations, contaminations in the waste stream. There's just a lot what you can do with digital. And then if you combine it with one of our businesses that, for example, as in robotics business, our sorting robots business, where we are using AI to sort waste streams, you can start picturing all sorts of synergies that we have in terms of digital use cases.

Jerry Revich

analyst
#44

Very interesting. And then can you talk about the sales process to the extent you can comment pretty interesting free cash flow multiple for a well-regarded business. I'm wondering if you could just step us through the process to the extent you're able and willing on this call.

Julie Beck

executive
#45

We will comment on the specifics of the deal process, but we can share that we're pleased with the outcome. The purchase price represents approximately 8.4x the 2024 EBITDA including expected tax benefits and run-rate synergies. And so we're just really excited about the financial benefits that ESG brings to Terex. And we've identified the synergies that we talked about, financially accretive. ESG needs a margin profile, including the synergies, we're expected to add 130 basis points of margin accretion. So we're just really excited with the business. They have a sustained track record of resilient, high single-digit organic growth through the cycle, and as well as best-in-class margins and free cash flow conversion. And it also reduces our capital intensity going forward which is the strong capital -- net working capital and free cash flow generation. So we're just very pleased.

Jerry Revich

analyst
#46

Agreed. Congratulations.

Operator

operator
#47

Our next question comes from the line of Tami Zakaria from JPMorgan.

Tami Zakaria

analyst
#48

Congrats on the deal, proposed deal sounds like an exciting opportunity, both near and long term. So I have a couple of questions. The first question is, I think ESG, like many others, faced chassis shortage post-COVID that drove up the backlog. So can you comment on the state of the backlog now versus history. I'm trying to understand if the backlog can continue to add to growth as we look into 2025 or the ongoing backlog burn could create a tough comp beyond this year? So any color would be helpful.

Simon Meester

executive
#49

Yes. Thanks for the question. On backlog, obviously, it's still a business that reports into Dover, so we don't want to get ahead of ourselves here. But we do want to mention that there is robust backlog coverage for the remainder of 2024 going into 2025. And so -- but yes, you're right, the industry has been constrained. It's very similar to what we've been sharing with you on the utility side and slowly but surely, that is starting to unconstrained itself. But other than that, there's not much more we can share on backlog at this point.

Tami Zakaria

analyst
#50

Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And one more question on the cycle. Where do you think we are in the refuse collection vehicle cycle -- end market cycle in general. Is it -- I hear the argument that it's expected to be less cyclical. But from your perspective, how would you define where we are in that cycle?

Simon Meester

executive
#51

Yes. So first of all, I would say we don't think it's cyclical. So there is no point in the cycle. From what we're seeing for the next couple of years, it's a pretty consistent, continuation of growth, both in collection vehicles and in digital use cases and then especially when you then start to cross over in recycling, I would say we're at the beginning of the long-term cycle there in terms of the application of technology and recycling. So if I would have to answer it, but then I would say we're at the beginning.

Operator

operator
#52

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Barger from KeyBanc.

Steve Barger

analyst
#53

I just wanted to push on that cyclicality a little bit. It's a 7% CAGR over 10 years, but the range is negative 8% to 23%. So it does seem like there's some cyclicality. Why the last 2 years averaged 18% against easy comps, why were those years so far above trend?

Julie Beck

executive
#54

Just if you look at the trends that you're talking about, you look at Terex, and you compare Terex and you add Heil and obviously this gives us a more consistent revenue stream over time. You see some nice growth in both the equipment side as well as the digital side over the last couple of years. And of course, that business was impacted by supply chain constraints as well.

Steve Barger

analyst
#55

Okay. Are the dealers independent and exclusive? And are they the only channel for the Parts and Service and non-equipment sales? Or do you have some direct customers?

Simon Meester

executive
#56

Yes. The dealers are exclusive. And it's actually one of the many things that we like about the ESG business is the strength of the dealer network. And we believe that, that is definitely part of the competitive advantage that ESG has in the market.

Steve Barger

analyst
#57

Got it. And just one more quick one. What is the age of the installed base? And just trying to understand how much of equipment sales come from increased price on replacement equipment versus fleet expansion on average.

Simon Meester

executive
#58

Yes, I don't think we have that number here, right, readily available. We can circle back with you.

Operator

operator
#59

Your question comes from the line of Tim Thein from Raymond James.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#60

All right. The first question is on the composition of the EBITDA in '24. And in terms of the split between equipment, parts and digital and not asking for those precise numbers. But in the spirit of the question is -- relates to just the chassis tightness that we've had, is that contributed to maybe an outsized growth in parts and digital relative to what equipment may look like or in kind of a steady state run rate?

Julie Beck

executive
#61

Yes. So thanks for the question. I mean, Tim, the business has had growth both on the equipment side as well as the service side. And so we see both sides growing and we would see demand from -- when we're pleased with the aftermarket parts growth as well. And at this point, again, they're owned by Dover right now. So we can't disclose more than that at this point in time.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#62

Okay. All right, Julie. And then maybe just -- you hit on the cost synergies earlier, but the procurement one seems, I would think to be kind of an outsized opportunity just given I would expect that a fair element of overlap between -- from a chassis supplier just given what you are buying through utilities. Is that -- is there any more detail you can give on that in terms of again, just kind of better leverage from a procurement side on the whole goods.

Simon Meester

executive
#63

Yes. I mean think steel, think hydraulics. There is definitely immediate opportunities there in terms of strategic sourcing. There's just a lot of similarities. Think utilities business and whatever goes to build material or the utility truck is very, very similar to ESG. So definitely, synergies on the sourcing side, on the -- I'm equally excited about the opportunities on the commercial side, I mentioned -- we mentioned digital. We mentioned -- we talked about the dealers, but Terex recycling systems and robotics, those are all kind of products that we can add to the ESG portfolio, and that will just give us a tremendous opportunity. So on the synergy side, we're quite excited about the line of sight that we're having there.

Operator

operator
#64

Your next question comes from the line of Kyle Menges from Citigroup.

Kyle Menges

analyst
#65

Just looking at the slide deck, it looks like the ESG outlook for this year implies 15-plus percent revenue growth compared to 13% last year and then 23% the year before. Could you just help us understand what's driving this re-acceleration in growth for ESG this year?

Julie Beck

executive
#66

Well, thanks for the question. I think that we -- like I mentioned, we've seen growth in both the original equipment side and the vehicle side as well as the digital side and aftermarket in Parts. So all of that has grown. They've had some supply chain constraints as well. So that has allowed increase as well but just drawing performance and execution by [ the team ].

Simon Meester

executive
#67

I just want -- I would just want to add, this is a very strong performing business, strong performing team, very tangible value proposition. They're firing on all cylinders. Obviously, one of the many reasons why we're very excited to welcome them to the Terex family.

Kyle Menges

analyst
#68

And then I know there's some recycling and environmental elements within MP. I'm curious why not roll those into this new Environmental Solutions segment and if that's something that you guys thought about and maybe why you held off doing that.

Simon Meester

executive
#69

Yes, definitely something. We want to get through close first, but definitely something that we will be looking at. There are immediate commercial synergies with, as I mentioned, with Terex recycling systems, but also with our sorting robots with our Ecotec waste shredders, although that's more of a mobile solution and our Ecotec material handlers. So plenty to look at there. Now typically, the waste and recycling that MP focuses on is more C&D, is more construction and demolition and we're now creating a group that is more focused on solid waste, but there's definitely crossover of technologies that you can use in construction and demolition waste that you can use in solid waste. So that's something that we'll continue to fine-tune as we go through integration.

Operator

operator
#70

Your next question comes from the line of Mig Dobre from Baird.

Mircea Dobre

analyst
#71

Just to maybe follow up on that last question. I too thought it was kind of interesting that you paired ESG with utilities. And I guess I can understand the fact that you're buying chassis in both these verticals. But beyond that, what's the logic from having these 2 together? And as you look at the margin of ESG relative to the margin that you have in utilities, what would you say at this point is maybe like the biggest differential that makes ESG so much more profitable?

Simon Meester

executive
#72

Yes. I'll let Julie reply to the margin question. On your first question, businesses have very strong similarities, similar operating models, similar support structures, we see synergies in operations, supply chain, but also on the commercial side of utilities, including the digital use cases that I talked about earlier, they're both virtually, noncyclical businesses serving resilient end markets. They're both serving environmental focused end markets, think electrification, think recycling and they're both serving large public-owned customers, municipalities, integrators and they're both North America focused. So we believe there is a lot there in common between the 2. [indiscernible], do you want to take the margin?

Unknown Executive

executive
#73

So we believe that there's a lot of good things that have happened, that we can learn from in terms of the new business. There's throughput, productivity, there's scale advantages when combining with the Terex Utilities. And then recall that Terex utilities margin on an LTM basis was impacted dramatically in the third quarter of last year with a supplier quality issue that caused some issues in productivity and reduced margins in the third quarter of last year. So and that's reflected in the LTM. So we think that putting these 2 businesses together is going to be a really great thing. And we think that our utility business will benefit as well from the combination of all the different things that ESG does well.

Mircea Dobre

analyst
#74

Okay. And my follow-up is a question on the customer side for ESG. Can you comment at all as to what the mix looks like in terms of customer size and in terms of go-to-market, what do you sell direct versus dealers? And if most of the business is done through dealers, what sort of due diligence have you done in terms of where the dealers stand as far as stocking levels relative to what would be normal?

Simon Meester

executive
#75

Yes. The business model is the direct sales and there is sales through dealers. It's a very similar mix as our utilities business. The dealers are a partner in pretty much all transactions, certainly from a support standpoint. And I forgot the second half of the question what was it?

Julie Beck

executive
#76

Roughly how much goes into the dealer supply chain. We would say that -- so the revenue mix, it's a little bit early for us to talk about revenue mix at this point in stage with the [ dealer ]. We will happy to supply more information later.

Simon Meester

executive
#77

Yes. And inventory levels, there is not that much inventory in this industry. There is a lot of build to order. So inventory is not a real criteria here in terms of throughput.

Operator

operator
#78

Your next question comes from the line of Angel Castillo from Morgan Stanley.

Angel Castillo Malpica

analyst
#79

Congratulations on the deal. Just curious if you could give a little bit more color just on the equipment side of the business. I think you broke out, it's kind of 72% or so of sales. Curious how much of that is kind of vehicles versus compactors and balers. And if you could talk about kind of the margin kind of structure among those and the differences?

Julie Beck

executive
#80

Yes. Angel, I would just say that it's like most businesses the aftermarket, the parts service, digital is higher margins than the original equipment and the vehicles would be. And we sell all different kinds of -- if you see the products in the release, all the different types of vehicles that we sell, whether it's a side loader, front end, back loader, we sell all of those and the waste compaction as well. But at this point in time, the revenue mix is, we're not going to share all the specific details at this point in time.

Angel Castillo Malpica

analyst
#81

Got it. No. And maybe just switching to capital allocation. So despite this large deal, you're still going to be below your target of kind of $2.5 billion and you talked about getting below 2 turns by next year or end of next year. Can you talk about how you're going to view capital allocation beyond that? It doesn't seem like you really need to do a ton of kind of delevering beyond that. So should we expect additional bolt-ons as potential kind of in the meantime? Or are you thinking about kind of buybacks, dividend, any other kind of thought process around capital allocation would be helpful.

Julie Beck

executive
#82

Thanks for the question, Angel. We remain committed to our capital allocation strategy, and there's really no change in our priority. We're going to continue to invest in our core business and we firmly believe that we're in an excellent position to continue and advance our strategic growth initiatives while maintaining our long-term leverage target. We'll also remain committed to returning capital to our shareholders through consistent dividend and share repurchases. So remember that we've increased our dividend 31% since 2023. And we've delivered a significant capital via share buybacks. We've had a 38% reduction in shares, we've outstanding and we've invested over $1.6 billion in share repurchases through -- from 2025 through the first quarter. And so we're focused on accelerating our growth element of our strategy over the coming years, and we're pleased to have the strong balance sheet and kind of flow generation that can support that growth rate. And so this acquisition was in alignment with our strategic approach to M&A, and we're going to continue to grow our pipeline, identify opportunities that are financially attractive, and we'll continue to broaden our market reach and strengthen our portfolio. And as always, though, we're going to be a good steward of capital and always evaluate our optimal uses of capital, whether it's focused on organic or inorganic growth. So very pleased.

Angel Castillo Malpica

analyst
#83

Just to clarify, it doesn't sound like you're kind of pausing until you're kind of integrating this. You're continuing to move on this. So if there's opportunities in your pipeline, you'd be willing to execute on that in 2024, '25.

Simon Meester

executive
#84

When it's the right thing with shareholders. Yes. absolutely.

Operator

operator
#85

Next follow-up question comes from the line of Steve Volkmann from Jefferies.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#86

Sorry, guys, just a quick one. Does Heil do any custom chassis? Is that something that they bring or maybe something that you might have to develop?

Simon Meester

executive
#87

We'll have to get back to you on that one.

Operator

operator
#88

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Simon Meester for some final closing remarks.

Simon Meester

executive
#89

All right. Well, thanks, everyone, for joining our call today and for your interest in Terex. As you -- I hope you appreciate we are very, very excited about ESG joining the Terex family. From here on, please contact Julie Beck or Jon Paterson for any follow-up questions you may have. And with that, I would ask the operator, please disconnect the call.

Operator

operator
#90

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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