Envirosuite Limited (EVS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 31, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jason Cooper
executiveAll right. We'll make a start. So welcome to FY '23 Q2 sales update. I'm joined here today with Justin. Thank you very much for coming, Justin. What we'll do is we'll go through a short discussion and talk about the key highlights from Q2 sales, a little bit on the business and some of the financials that you would have seen included in, and then we'll take questions at the end. So let's begin. Look, really happy with Q2 continuing on the strong momentum that we've -- that we're seeing in the business. It's a great track record of consistently growing on this quarter-on-quarter. So I think that's a really good result there. So strong momentum, 11% growth on prior corresponding period or from an ARR perspective, $1 million in project sales as well. It's important to note, though, that Q2 did have some procurement delays, particularly out of Europe. So it's not necessarily losses of deals. It's actually just a couple of deals have slipped from Q2 into Q3, and some of those have already closed to start ourself on a good sitting on Q3. We've actually been building out a strong pipeline for the second half. And more on that a little bit later on. Look, Europe was slower but exceptional growth there, again, in the Americas and solid contribution from APAC. And what we're seeing in Europe is a changing landscape. But there's not necessarily a lack of confidence there, it was just more of the delays that was coming through from procurement. So we now have achieved a $56.9 million ARR, which is up 16% on this point last year, which is great. What was really encouraging for this quarter was the strong growth in Aviation, and that was across the board, very strong growth in all 3 areas. So Aviation has really started to show signs of strong investment flow coming through from our customers. Certainly, a strong driver around carbon emissions and airspace change as well. So that's really encouraging. If you look at the last 12 months from a trailing average there, we've actually added $4.1 million in new ARR within the Aviation business. So that's exceptional growth within that and really strong outlook actually for the rest of the year and moving forward. So we're certainly buoyant on that part. From a financials perspective, Justin will go into that a little bit later on, but we put there our cash position. So certainly very comfortable with the cash position that we ended up in December 31, and that gives us and I think reconfirms the strong path for adjusted EBITDA during FY '23. But I'll let you cover that one through, Justin.
Justin Owen
executiveGood.
Jason Cooper
executiveSo look, for those of you who are new to the EVS story, I feel it's important just to take the moment to really reflect back on who we are and what we do. So we have got 3 product suites, which we've spoken about, our Aviation, Omnis and Water. We're the global leader in aviation with around 170 airports. We're looking at providing compliance and regulatory requirements around noise but now also broadening out more broadly into carbon emissions at green airspace. And you will see that airports around the world have got a significant opportunity in front of them, and we're working with many of our customers to tackle that. Omnis is our broad horizontal platform. It's the most advanced environmental intelligence platform on the market today, very strong capability around predictive insights, really driving an operational improvement for our customers. We focus on 4 key segments: mining, industrial, waste and wastewater. And that has been growing above 25% over the last couple of years. So we're really excited by that. Omnis in itself this quarter didn't necessarily have the strongest quarter in isolation, but certainly, the pipeline for Omnis now for the second half is exceptionally strong. Mining though, again, a very strong contributor, a little bit more on that later on. Water, we have 2 key products, both SeweX and Optimiser in there, very unique technology, still early stage within our business. And we're working through with our customers, and we're focused heavily in the second quarter around getting the reference cases up and going for South Australia Water for Watercorp and also into Europe and North America. We have successfully executed on our strategy, and we are continuing to do that. So certainly, this is in line once again with what we said we would do, and we're executing through that. We've got very strong tailwinds now from ESG around the world, and that's becoming stronger quarter-on-quarter. We have got a product-led organization, and we've got strong products there that we've put into the marketplace, and we know that we've got that product market fit, and we're executing to that. But we're also executing to our financial plan around that, getting back to profitability and making that sustainable as well. One key thing I do want to hit on is our land, expand and scale part, which is -- we really have focused on that. And that is going to be a cornerstone for us moving forward and giving additional insights into that. But working with customers, we have some of the greatest customers that you could possibly ask for in the industrial and aviation space. And so our opportunity here is to work with our customers and make sure that we're helping them achieve their goals and expanding out both on to different sites for them, but also different offerings coming through. In aviation, we want to call out the strong performance there with a customer who we're not going to name in isolation at the moment, but it's a strong customer in North America, which we're working through with changing air space. Now what this is, is very new technology that we're able to use our existing offerings, blend it together and so a new problem. And so we can see this now being replicated in many of the regions that we operate around the world. Mining continues to be the strongest demand for us with quite a few additional sites being added this quarter. So the call out there is $1.4 million new ARR in aviation, $0.6 million in Omnis for this quarter, giving us a total of $2 million. So moving into Omnis. 5 of the top 10 deals that were signed were in mining operations. And so that gives us confidence. Certainly, the pipeline supports that as well for the second half. Strong market acceptance, we're really building out now to having the noise and the vibration capability in the platform, and that's opening up new opportunities for us. Air traffic is continuing to see a return to normal service with further capacity returning. And so that's certainly encouraging us. A lot of the flight statistics that we'll start to see come through as most of the regions around the world are starting to show a significant increase, which is growing for our customers and great for us as well because we're able to work with our customers to achieve their goals. As I have mentioned, it's a record growth for us in aviation with $1.4 million, and I think it's a really strong number for us. We also added some new airports, so Boca Raton and Philadelphia International Airport in the U.S. So it shows that we're also winning from our competitors in that space. Carbon emissions module represents an exciting opportunity for us. So this is the most advanced carbon emissions tool that's available in the market. And our airports around the world are really starting to see the strong solution that this provides our customers. And certainly from them, it is a strong driver, I think, to get to this net 0 position and airports are investing a lot of money and time into doing that. From a water perspective, we've got very strong customer feedback, which has been exciting to work with. Watercorp and SA Water in the last few months, I had the opportunity to meet with Watercorp myself towards the end of last year. And they're really excited about what this technology can do for Watercorp. So we're expecting some really exciting news to come through in this calendar year. Also an important point now is Evoqua Water in the U.S. So we've signed a proof of concept with Evoqua Water on SeweX, which is the first foray now into certainly what represents a large-scale expansion opportunity for us. It's also important to note the importance of water in the macro environment. So Xylem actually bought Evoqua in a deal that was USD 7.5 billion recently. And water we see is becoming such an important resource and commodity so we're excited to work with companies like Evoqua to prove out the strong value proposition that it does have. It's also now at the pivot point for us and an exciting chapter in the EVS Water story, where we have appointed global water lead in Sada. So he's going to be based in the Middle East. Sada comes with a huge amount of expertise, contacts now in helping companies scale and grow. And Sada has come onboard, both from the technology that we've got at our disposal, the future vision of where we want the product to go but also the significant market opportunity that we have. I'll close a little bit on the outlook and then pass to Justin on this one, but look really excited by how it started in 1H, but probably more excited now about the strong pipeline that we've built across all 3 regions and in all 3 product suites, really excited on that one. Pathway to profitability is important. And I think it's an important point to call out here, we are actively monitoring the levers that we've got at our disposal and making sure that all the resources are contributing in the right direction. And so we're able to make decisions on regions, on certain segments where we're getting traction to invest into areas that we're seeing greater expansion capabilities. And so we're monitoring that and making micro decisions on that to optimize that outcome. Reiterate the strong results that we're getting through plant optimizer and the impact that we had from the desalination association where many leads have now started to come through and filter through. And so we've got some exciting opportunities, which we hope we can share with you in the second half some really significant landmark opportunities that have come out of that desalination event. Mining is absolutely a strong point for Omnis, and that is evident. Now I've had the great opportunity of meeting some of our strong mining customers around the world recently. And you can see the strong impact that they've got there. So we have worked quite aggressively in the first half to build out a strong pipeline of growth opportunities, which will be both strong project revenue and also the important part of that annual recurring revenue from the software. Our Philippines office is now up and going in full swing. We've got people onboard, and we've really utilized that really impressively the quality of the team that we've got there and the impact that, that team has been able to have in a short space of time. We've, as I've said, on the key hires, both from Sada and also an aviation lead here in Australia with Neil coming onboard, that's quite exciting for us. So we feel we're continuing to invest into talent. And as we know, although we're a technology company some of these high-quality individuals that can come into the organization and make a really strong impact, so we're excited on that one. So H2 is well set up. We've got line of sight of that. We've got confidence in the pipeline, and we know that we're going to finish the year strongly. We're really happy with the results of first half, particularly in resurgence of aviation. As always, strong focus on cash, and that's a really important one. And that's the key part to the fiscal management that we've brought in a very strong discipline that we have inside the business. So Justin, over to you.
Justin Owen
executiveYes, sure. Thanks, Jason. In terms of profitability and cash flow updates, we'll certainly be providing more information when we do -- when we provide our H1 results update scheduled for the 22nd of February, so please look out for that one. But certainly, in the meantime, happy to give this certain commentary on where we finished up on the half and comments on the quarter. As Jason mentioned, we finished the half year till December with just under $12 million in cash. And as we've previously stated, we are on our pathway to profitability, and we are on track on our transition to adjusted EBITDA positive in FY '23. In terms of the focus of the organization and focus of the various teams, certainly, sales growth has been a key piece, and Jason spoke into that. But also in our -- maybe my old terminology contract to cash is very important for us, ensuring that we can transition our customers from their contract into operational readiness. We're certainly seeing some improvements in that area, particularly with EVS Water, where we're seeing the ability to turn on revenue in that product set improving significantly. But likewise, across all products sets, Aviation and Omnis, we're seeing that transition coming through and improving. We've always -- we've spoken in the past regarding project sales and the leading that, that provides to ARR. And of course, we see that again in this quarter. What we're also seeing on the product side is some additional investments that our customers continue to make in both Omnis and Aviation in product and project-related sales. So good to see that the investments coming through with a particularly strong quarter in our revenue recognized in that space. Cost management, as Jason said, we continue to be focused on cost management and how we support the growth of the business. As again stated, Philippines has now been up and operational for the last 6 months with our finance and customer one support -- sorry, customer support, level 1 support, in that region. And again, giving us the opportunity to support our growing customer base through our Philippines and other locations of labor as we deem appropriate for the growth that we're experiencing. With regards to the broader technology and our technology base, we've spoken about our transition to AWS, and that continues with the move out of our data centers. And of course, we'll be looking to close those data centers as that transition completes. Likewise, our tech team structures are really looking to address the opportunities that are presented and the road map that's defined in each of our service -- I mean, in each of our customer lines, and we're able to shift resources as needed to focus on a particular product or development requirement out of the product road map. So that flexibility remains in the business. As we've said on the revenue, our recurring revenue growth and whatever we're achieving there is in line with where we're seeing things. And again, we'll provide more information on our half year update in terms of recurring revenue, but again, quite positive there. On the project side, a very strong quarter in revenue in that regard. Again, reiterating that we are on our pathway to profitability and our shift to adjusted EBITDA positive during FY '23. And of course, our position remains consistent, and based on our current strategy, we have no need to go back to the market through for a capital raise. That's a summary of the finance. And again, we'll provide more color on that in detail when we release our half year results on the 22nd of February. So Jason?
Jason Cooper
executiveThank you very much for that. So look, we've gotten time now for some questions. So please raise your virtual hands and unmute, and we'll listen for question and answer.
Warrick Lace
executiveJason, I see one in here from Chris Savage. Chris, I will unmute your microphone. Please go ahead, Chris.
Chris Savage
analystCan you hear me?
Warrick Lace
executiveYes.
Jason Cooper
executiveYes.
Justin Owen
executiveYes.
Chris Savage
analystYes, it worked. So first question, Jason, probably more for you. Can you just explain why procurement delays have negatively affected new ARR in Q2?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes. So a couple of things and a sort of there's depth both for region and product offerings. So certainly within the water space, you'll see that we didn't actually add any new ARR in this quarter, but that was because of some of the lengthy procurement challenge with new customers coming on board. And so there's a certain part there with just understanding the water utilities and that engagement model. So it's not to say that they're not going to move forward. It just took longer than what we first anticipated to close in that quarter. There was also a bit within Europe, where there was probably a little bit of pause in the start of November, just to see what would happen with the energy prices, certainly in the industrial space. But by the end, probably by the middle of December, actually, that confidence has come back. And now in January, that started out to really motor ahead. So they're probably the 2 key parts, Chris, just on water and then in Europe.
Chris Savage
analystOkay. And just this new carbon emission module in Aviation. So is that now effectively launched and you basically go back to your 170 airports and say how about it?
Jason Cooper
executiveIt's exactly what we're doing, Chris. We do it a little bit more eloquently than that. But we -- what we've done is like all of our new product introduction, right? You get your reference customers that we know want to push the boundaries of innovation and will adopt new technology. We have put it in, we've demonstrated the impact that it's having, and then we roll that further out. But what's exciting in this particular release is this is your nontraditional customer. And so therefore, it's unfortunate we can't name them, but we'll work towards doing that in the shorter term. But this is airspace change, Chris. So this is really significant, big impact, really significant impact to global aviation. So we can say that this has got some real legs to grow.
Chris Savage
analystAnd is -- like, if the airport has your noise vibration module, which obviously they do, is it a similar dollar value if they take on the carbon emissions module?
Jason Cooper
executiveIt's not, it's an easy transition. If they've got ANOMS put in place, right? it's a bolt-on to ANOMS. So all of our customers has obviously got ANOMS, so it's an easy bolt-on to that one. But it's a good incremental increase on the ARR per customer.
Chris Savage
analystSure. And is there...
Justin Owen
executiveAnd it's also worth pointing out, Chris, the [ talk ] software. So again, it's margin improvement.
Chris Savage
analystSure. Good point. And is there anyone else providing that sort of module at this stage?
Jason Cooper
executiveWell, not to the accuracy and the depth of what we do. It's [ all equal things ] Chris. Our niche in the marketplace is a scientific differentiation. So the airports that want to tackle and address climate change, their impact to net 0, then this is the -- certainly the most advanced on the market and having the biggest impact. There are, let's say, cheaper alternatives that don't address the real goal, but we're focused on scientific differentiation.
Chris Savage
analystAnd last question, this proof of concept with Evoqua Water on SeweX, is it going to be similar to Watercorp [ intake ] a few months to work through that?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes. So the -- I mean we're doing our best to accelerate that, obviously. But yes, I would suggest give ourselves a bit of comfort with that one that you'd go through a full quarter, have a look at it. They're certainly excited to be working with us and the impact. As we've said before, there's nothing like SeweX on the market. This is a brand-new offering. The customer segment that Evoqua serves, a lot more than I can say here is a huge return on investment and on significant savings for their operational business.
Chris Savage
analystAnd you gave us an idea of what was just paid for Evoqua that I'm assuming or guessing it's a larger entity than, say, a Watercorp, much, much larger?
Jason Cooper
executiveWell, I'll let you join the dots, Chris.
Warrick Lace
executiveNo problem, Chris. So we -- I'll just mute Chris' mic. We've got another question in from Ross Barrows. So Ross, I will allow your mic and when you're ready. Okay.
Jason Cooper
executiveGood morning, Ross.
Warrick Lace
executiveAre you there, Ross? Just, you may have to unmute yourself. Okay, Ross, if you'd like to, you can -- just for everybody on the call, you can actually put your questions into the Q&A panel and just type them in. Okay. Don't keep what you need.
Jason Cooper
executiveChris, do you -- how did you do that, Chris?
Warrick Lace
executiveI have enabled -- I have disabled Ross' mic, but he may be having trouble there. So you'd like to...
Jason Cooper
executiveTake the time, he can't un-mute.
Justin Owen
executiveOkay.
Warrick Lace
executiveRoss, would you like to put your questions into the Q&A panel? Sorry, Chris. Okay. Ross has put a question. Thank you for that, Ross. So the question, Jason, Justin, is any insights you can share on cross-sell on this client into water and vice versa?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes. I mean, so interesting enough, we're starting to see opportunities present from Omnis into aviation now. So we're actually working on an opportunity in Europe on that funnel, which is actually quite exciting on that part. It's one that we've taken a bit of time to make sure that the right offering for Aviation, but that's starting to open up. A lot of the opportunities that we've actually got now within water and the pipeline from that is actually started to come from the contacts that we already had within wastewater. Certainly, very strong within -- or the pipeline is very strong within Europe on the back of that one. But with new product introduction within SeweX it has taken a bit of time to familiarize themselves, which is why the importance of reference sites in Europe and North America is so important for us. It's also important to get that the operational side in here in Australia. So yes, look, they continue to work through. And I certainly think from the second half, you'll continue to see that cross-sell opportunity, both from Omnis into water, water into Omnis and also aviation. I saw a question from Chris in.
Warrick Lace
executiveThat's right. Yes, Jason. So Chris has asked another one. Do you think you can crack $3 million in new ARR in Q3?
Jason Cooper
executiveThat would be guidance wouldn't it?
Justin Owen
executiveSo certainly, the expectation, Chris, on that one is we've got a really strong pipeline for Q3. I think one of the things that we saw with Q2, we have seen it before is the unfortunate part of timing on a quarter. And certainly, the Christmas part, it's a hard one because you're trying to compress. But yes, some of those deals have fallen now into Q3, which is good for us. We certainly see a strong Q3 and a Q4. But that's certainly the target that we're going after.
Warrick Lace
executiveSo we've got 3 more minutes left. If anyone would like to ask a question. Ross has asked another one actually. So Sada Krishnan, Global Growth Director in Water, can you please provide some color on basing Sada in Dubai and what kind of change or step change in demand you are hoping for from that new position and over what time frame?
Jason Cooper
executiveGreat, question, Ross, great question. So what we've actually seen is because of the impact of Optimiser within desalination plant is so strong. We've proven that now in Hong Kong and [ PEP ] Singapore. We looked at where the market opportunities and also where the pipeline of opportunities was coming through. And the Middle East presented probably the strongest opportunity for desalination plants there. So not only have we got current opportunities that we're working to close, but there is a huge opportunity within the Middle East, there's a huge number of desalination plants in that particular area. Also, if you look at it from a geographic location, the Middle East is close to the Americas, close to Europe, close back here in into Australia as well. And so we felt it was the right point in time to do that. We have had customers in the Middle East for a long period of time. We've got partners in the Middle East. And so we felt it was the right time to get that. So yes, we do see a step change. I think Sada has helped in previous lives, companies to scale significantly, and I use that word involved significantly. And so where Sada -- we are hoping to see a really strong impact with the appointment of Sada. He also brings with him a level of strategy, contacts around the world. So we're really excited to have Sada onboard. We did time this though based on wanting to have the right reference points in place. So we didn't want to go too early on it. We wanted to make sure that we had SeweX working and Optimiser proven out. And so the timing that was a well thought out -- in our head it was well thought out, I'd say.
Warrick Lace
executiveI know we're right on time, Jason, but there is one more question from [ Lucullian Woods ] that we could finish up on. It says, can you provide some more color on the SeweX implementation software upgrading surrounding how long it previously took to implement a customer compared to now where it is under a month? And could you also outline how much of the improvement in the time to implement is due to the software upgrade versus the prior learnings, for example, what's implemented at 50% of Watercorp sites.
Jason Cooper
executiveYes. So look, the focus for us is always -- it comes a little bit back to our strategy, right, around combining growth, the scalability of the business, right, and also the customer stickiness. So if we put that lens through, it was always part of the road map to build out a product that, first of all, served a point for the customer, right, so the customer got use case into that. Now what we've learned through a multitude of open and closed systems, different type of models that we're bringing in, different types of hydraulic models working through always variability on the client side. What we wanted to do over the last 12 months is invest into the product to get it to a point that when you introduce it to a new customer, so not a Watercorp, I'm going to say water but a net new customer that it is providing value quickly that we're able to turn it on quickly and that we're able to actually get the variability in data ingestion coming through. So it was always part of that road map, and that's our product. We talked about being product led. That's the key mandate sort of within that product group. So that has been a focus. You use a combination of real-world learning, the practical applications as well as in providing value to the customer turns around and says, this is great. And Watercorp has been a strong advocate in the broader market about the application of technology and where it can use. So hopefully, [ Lucullian ] that answers your question.
Warrick Lace
executiveOkay, that takes us right on time.
Jason Cooper
executiveAlso, well, listen, thank you very much for everyone for coming in the questions. We'll continue to refine the audio on this one just to make sure that the muting and the un-muting works. But apologies for that, I'm glad that we were able to get through your questions. Thanks, again and thanks Warrick, and thanks, Justin.
Warrick Lace
executiveThanks, Justin.
Justin Owen
executiveThank you very much, and good morning.
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