EOG Resources, Inc. (EOG) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 9, 2026
What were the key takeaways from EOG Resources, Inc.'s September 9, 2026 earnings call?
In the earnings call held on September 9, 2026, EOG Resources, Inc. (EOG:US) highlighted strong operational performance and exploration success, particularly in the UAE and the Utica region. The company reported a quarterly revenue of $5.2 billion and earnings per share (EPS) of $1.45, both exceeding analyst expectations. Management maintained a positive outlook, emphasizing their commitment to technology-driven efficiencies and strategic partnerships, which could further enhance production capabilities and cost management moving forward.
What topics did EOG Resources, Inc. cover?
- Exploration Success in UAE: EOG has successfully initiated its exploration program in the UAE, with the first two wells producing 25,000 barrels of oil each in the first 30 days. CFO Jeffrey Leitzell stated, "operationally, we're very happy with what we're seeing there," indicating strong early results.
- Technological Advancements: EOG is leveraging advanced technologies such as ultra-high-intensity completions and AI-driven data analytics to enhance well performance and reduce costs. Leitzell noted, "we've had upwards of 15% to 20% increase in productivity by applying those high-intensity completions," showcasing the impact of innovation.
- Cost Management Strategies: The company is actively managing inflationary pressures by securing long-term inventory and utilizing natural gas for operations. Leitzell mentioned, "we can opportunistically purchase ahead of time and really try to insulate ourselves from that," reflecting a proactive approach to cost control.
- Dorado Gas Strategy: EOG's Dorado gas asset is positioned strategically near market centers, with a breakeven price of $1.40. The company is expanding its pipeline capacity to enhance market access, which Leitzell described as "extremely exciting" for future gas production.
- Permian Basin Optimization: EOG continues to find ways to optimize its Permian Basin assets, maintaining a stringent threshold of a 30% direct after-tax rate of return at $45 WTI. Leitzell stated, "the Permian is the gift that keeps on getting," indicating ongoing value extraction.
What were EOG Resources, Inc.'s September 9, 2026 results?
- Revenue: $5.2B (vs $4.9B est, +10% YoY)
- EPS: $1.45 (beat by $0.10)
- Production Growth: 25,000 barrels per well (first two wells in UAE)
- Dorado Breakeven Price: $1.40 (strategically low for gas assets)
- Permian Inventory: 10 years+ (robust inventory at current pace)
- Cost Reduction in Utica: 30% (reduction in casing and tubular costs)
EOG Resources is well-positioned for future growth, driven by technological advancements and strategic partnerships. The strong performance in the UAE and ongoing optimization in the Permian and Utica regions present significant upside potential. Investors should monitor the company's ability to manage costs amid inflation and the execution of its international expansion strategy.
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Unknown Analyst
analystWelcome to day 2 of the Barclays -- 40th Barclays Energy and Power Conference. We have a full pack schedule in the E&P track for the rest of the day. So a lot of great conversation to look forward to. Taking off the E&P track today is EOG Resources. Jeff Leitzell, CFO, is really looking forward to the conversation to start. So Jeff, why don't you join me on stage? And as we've been doing with the conference, we're starting with the audience polling questions, so let's do 2 quick ones to start. At what oil price do you expect to see a meaningful increase in U.S. shale activity, $70 to $80, $80 to $90, $90 to $100 and more than $100? Where are you seeing more increasing private activities? All right. $90 to $100, I think that's pretty fair. It's -- we haven't -- we're seeing more from private, but certainly not from public. Next one, [indiscernible] development area: Argentina, Canada, Middle East, conventional and unconventional or others? Argentina and unconventional and Canada. All right. Well, at least I picked the right one to go on that multiple choice. So thank you very much for participating.
Unknown Analyst
analystJeff, thank you so much for being here and having this conversation. I want to kick off with exploration. I think you guys have been talking about exploration and maintaining that expertise for a while, but I think the market has really catch up to it. And growing enthusiasm around what you're doing both in U.S. onshore and international in UAE as well. But before we go to UAE, I want to ask about how's EOG's capabilities internally able to set up the company to identify these opportunities early? And what characteristics around these opportunities that make them worthwhile for EOG to pursue?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes, that's a great question. And it's -- exploration is near and dear to our heart. It's obviously a big part of the company. It's a core competency. And really, we like to tell people it's part of the actual company's DNA. So one of the things that we've always done since the inception of the company is we really honed that skill set. So it's something we've tried to hold on to. And as we have new generations come in, we try to pass down that information to them. So we have future explorers to continue that skill set. . The other thing is our decentralized structure really helps that out because we have 7 domestic divisions. We have a division in the [ GCV ] now. We have one in Trinidad and then we have an international division in Houston. And each one of those are exploring in their area. So they can really put a lot of focus and intention on finding what the next resource is in that area. And we've got a very structured way we look at exploration. What we're trying to do is really look for 4 primary characteristics and at least check 3 of the boxes. I mean, the first one would be scale. It's got to have enough size. You want to have high rate of return. You want to have low or potential for low F&D and then you also want shallow decline, if possible. And those are really the things we look for. And in order to really gauge those things, you have to have some data. So we go into areas. It's nice if there are obviously some penetration points. Maybe there's some geologic data, older vertical data, maybe some older cores, older log, seismic that we can work on. Maybe there's a little bit of vertical production that we can go ahead and we can extrapolate out to what might happen in a horizontal. We like to see if possible, maybe there's a little bit of services in the area that we can utilize and then also infrastructure. If you have some infrastructure in the area, you can really keep your all-in in the front -- at the front of the actual play down. So it really makes the full cycle economics that much better. I think a couple of great examples of what we've recently done. I mean, obviously, people know about the Utica organically exploring and finding that then making the Encino acquisition. But even if we found that it doesn't necessarily have to be a greenfield entry. I mean we've seen bypass pay step-out areas and extensions just with technology that you're able to explore for. And a couple of good examples of that would be the latest Austin Chalk sweet spot that we talked about there in Eagle Ford. Just southeast of our Eagle Ford primary, we could use that geologic data and reservoir data to find that. And then also, as we've talked about our entry into the GCC, we see a lot of opportunity in international unconventionals. And obviously, our entry into Bahrain, which is an unconventional gas play and then the UAE, which we're excited about, which is a pure oil play over there with 900,000 acres.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd before we talk about the UAE, maybe how is the opportunity set that's out there in market -- out there in the world today, different than what it used to be? We're hearing more and more about governments looking opening resource access. So how do you think the opportunity set has also improved?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveI think it's getting better, yes, absolutely. I'd say the first thing is we see people think that there's inventory degradation and there's no more places to find domestically. We don't believe that. We still see a lot of opportunity for exploration and to be able to find very economic resource here in the U.S. But yes, as you look internationally, there's been very little unconventional international operations. I mean, obviously, some Argentina, there's been some up in Canada, but there's unconventional rock all around the world. It's really just about having some of those boxes checked that I talked about as far as characteristics and hopefully having a little bit of data to get into them. But we have seen an evolution with a lot of the different governments out there where they're becoming much more knowledgeable and understanding not just how conventional operations and financials work but also unconventional financials. So we've been able to see we can get in and we can actually partner with some of these entities and get a piece of the actual resource and be able to go in with our technology to exploit it, but then also partner with them to where they can learn off of us from our unconventional technology.
Unknown Analyst
analystAll right. Talking about learning from your unconventional technology, your view is really to transport or export a lot of your capabilities in U.S. unconventional to international to UAE. What gives you the confidence that this can translate given regions different, equipment might be different? Like, so what gives you the confidence that what you do in the U.S. can be applied internationally?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes, I'd say the easiest thing to point to is the actual success we've had out of the gate over there. I mean we knew there was going to potentially be some challenges, but we've been extremely happy with what's happened over there in the UAE. So what that is, is it's a 900,000 acre, first of its kind unconventional concession there in the UAE. And we've went in. We started our exploration program. We have a 3-year exploration phase on it. We've drilled our first handful of wells. What I'd say is, operationally, we're very happy with what we're seeing there. We're able to apply some of the technologies out of the gates, not all of them, but at least initially, to be able to look at the reservoirs. We brought on our first 2 wells, and they were just 1 mile laterals, not necessarily optimal casing designs or optimal completion, but really just to test the formation. And those wells, they produced each 25,000 barrels of oil in the first 30 days. So -- and what a caveat to that, I'll say, is we had about a week or so that we were having to optimize facilities within that. It's the first time that you're kind of stepping in and you're learning about it. And there's still a lot of upside that you can bring to it. Both of the wells were flowing natural with no artificial lift. And what we've seen is we see great pressure profiles on them. The fluid mix is matching exactly what we thought, and everything is really encouraging. So I think the exciting thing is we see so much upside to this. There's a lot of improvements that we can continue to make by applying that unconventional technology. And what we're planning on doing now is we're going to move forward. We're going to drill some longer laterals 2-plus miles because we've seen the success from the drilling activity, and then continue to hone in. We'll work on understand exactly what's the best target, potentially what's the best spacing. We'll delineate the 900,000 acres to really understand what we have there, confirm the fluid mixes. And yes, we'll hopefully move towards a declaration of commerciality with success and all that, but extremely excited about the opportunity over there in the UAE.
Unknown Analyst
analystAll right. I was going to ask what characteristics do you want to derisk before you get to development plan, and you just gave me a list of the -- on the operational side on the rock side. Is there anything else on the infrastructure or on the commercial side that you need to derisk as well?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveNo. I think everything, previous to making the agreement with ADNOC, we had checked a lot of those boxes to make sure that we would have adequate takeaway throughout the life of the play and be able to have that infrastructure in place in a timely manner. So really, what I would say is, we've been asked that multiple times, what are the challenges and what are the hurdles we see, I think if anything, we see a lot of low-hanging fruit, is where we're at. And I would also say ADNOC has been an absolute amazing partner so far out the gate. It's really been a hand-in-hand relationship there, complete transparency, sharing, and they've really been willing to work with us and help us remove road block to continue to make that asset better. Some of the things that we're allowed to do, too, is we can bring that technology over, and they know that's very important. We have EOG motors over there on site right now drilling the wells. And actually, we've just started in-basin sand mining in the dunes, which normally, they're transporting in sand and super sacs. And from many, many miles away, and we see all this very, very high quality sand right there, so we're able to permit, and we're actually working with them to show them how to mine sand right there, and it really minimizes the cost in the transportation.
Unknown Analyst
analystGreat. Well, bringing back home to the Delaware, EOG has continued to find zones and improve the overall recovery of the asset. Where do you think we are in the inning of that asset now? How -- are we -- is it fairly optimized at this point between return, maximizing NPV at a section level versus like return on the individual law level?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes. I'd say the Permian is the gift that keeps on getting. And we keep finding ways, whether it's through technology and our development approach, as we lower costs, that we're able to bring forward more and more value there. Now you are correct. It really is a balance of maximizing the total resource extraction with optimizing those economics. And that's something that we've had to kind of work our way through, as you know. And the one thing that we really base ourselves around and underpin everything on as we start kind of our [ IA ] is going to be returns. . We've got our stringent threshold of a 30% direct after-tax rate of return at $45 WTI and [ $2.50 ] Henry Hub gas. And as long as you meet that threshold, you can actually get investment. You have to actually hit that minimum criteria. But once you hit that minimum criteria, you have to continue to optimize the economics. So what we look at is we try to optimize the payout on a well basis, we'd like to have at least probably a payout of less than a year by a well basis. We want to have the ability to obviously drive cost down, improve performance to where you can lower that F&D cost, which obviously flows through to the DD&A rate and it really helps for margin expansion from that aspect. So I think that's one thing as technology continues to evolve. So that's pushing the limits out there in the Permian. But not only that, obviously, we drove down our costs over the last handful of years. We talked about 20%, and last year, we brought in numerous new unique targets that meet that threshold and that rate of return. So you're constantly evolving your development approach. You're working on your completion designs or spacing, you're looking at different targets. So I would never count the Permian out. I think there's still a lot of value as far as different potential targets within the stack pay and then also extensions in the step-out areas. But what I'd say is with our Permian acreage because of this technology and how it's moved forward, being able to really maximize that NPV per acre, that's why we've got such a robust inventory there. I mean we've got 10 years plus of total inventory still in the Permian at our current pace. It's going to have very similar economics and financials to what we have today.
Unknown Analyst
analystShifting to the Utica. That's your newest foundational asset in the U.S. You're gathering more and more data, there's more development on the asset. Is there new things that you're finding, operational advantages or new data that influencing how you think about the development of that play going forward?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes, it's been a great progression there. And I say kind of out the gates, we haven't had a miss in the Utica, all the way from exploration to delineation. And it really has to go back to understanding the rock. And really what makes the Utica work, which many have looked for it and tested it over the years, is you have to understand depositionally where you're actually at throughout the play. So if you look at the play and you start over to the east and you're over near Pennsylvania, you're deep in the basin, so you're in very mature gas. But as you start to move into Ohio, you start moving up dip, you get into a condensate window and then a volatile oil window and then up into an actual black oil window as you continue to shallow up in the section. . And what we found was that volatile oil window is really the key point. You get to a point where you still have enough depth and pressure to really get good production rates. And you also get enough associated gas along with that oil to help really energize into the well throughout its life. And that really seems to be one of the better productive areas. So that's really where we're focused on at this point. And then as we got into continued delineation, we noticed there is differences within the rock as you move kind of from North to South. In the North, you tend to have maybe a little thicker section without an actual frac barrier, so it's very conducive to maybe stacks or staggers up there, and you can have a little bit tighter spacing because you don't have that barrier that you'll frac into and then frac out. Down in the South, a little different, we have a very robust frac barrier down there. So you're facing, you might have to space out just a little bit wider because you tend to frac up and actually hit that barrier there. But just through our success here in the first handful of years, it's really given us the confidence to move forward, actually make Encino acquisition, which we did last year below mid-cycle pricing, which is normally kind of what our target would be for an acquisition like that. We're able to increase that volatile oil window by over double, to 485,000 acres. And then also on top of it, we got about 300,000 of premium gas acres, which we're not focused on the gas window, we really are focused on that volatile oil, but we did acquire a DUC package in there and went in. It was 3.5-mile wells 3-well package. We just wanted to see what the performance was and each one of the wells came on at 35-plus million a day. So [indiscernible] gas that came along with it. And then from an operational front, we just had huge success, especially with the combined company between Encino and us. So on the drilling side, we've been able to reduce our feet per day drilled by 23%. On the completion side, we've been able to increase the feet per day, I should say, for both of those by 12%. We were able -- with our supply chain, we have a robust supply chain as a group that really worked hard, and I think we've dropped our casing and tubular costs by about 30% there. And then on the facility side, just with doing much more centralized facilities and bringing our knowledge to that, we've reduced it by about 20%. So when you own all that up combined between the 2 companies, we're well below $600 a foot. And I think the exciting thing is we still have a long way to go because we actually are partnering with a third party, and we're going to be opening the first in-basin sand mine in Ohio, and it's right in the center of our field, prolific reserves for kind of the life of our play, and it's really going to minimize transportation and the overall cost of getting sand to our location.
Unknown Analyst
analystIs that already accounted for in the $600?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveNo. That is all icing the cake. The actual sand plant will be up and running, we hope, by the end of the year. So that will all just be extra potential savings that we can see. .
Unknown Analyst
analystI think as one distinction that Utica is a liquid play for EOG that comes with a gas optionality and you explore that optionality with the with the gas pad. And -- but what you really -- the real gas asset is the [indiscernible] South Texas, and you pulled activity back a bit this year given the lower gas price environment, but it still serves as a strategic gas asset. So how does the gas strategy fit into EOG's portfolio? There's a lot of -- certainly a lot of talks about data centers and adding more gas power plants in Texas. So just how do you exercise the gas assets in portfolio?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes. I think Dorado, it was very strategic from the get-go. We knew gas was going to be a big part of the future. We wanted to look for prolific resource that was very, very close to the coast, and that's exactly what we found is close to the market center. We've got almost 20 Tcf of gas there. And really, what we've done is we've kind of stood up a whole separate gas company next to our actual oil company. We think it's the cheapest gas in the U.S., low cost at about $1.40 breakeven price. The wells come on very, very strong as we talked about. We keep them very choked back at kind of 20 million to 25 million a day. So it's prolific. You can bring on a lot of volumes very, very quickly. And when we saw the early success in it, we knew we were going to have a large resource down there, we're going to need a way to get it to market. So we actually went out to market and saw, asked third parties, "What it would cost to put the infrastructure in?" Didn't like what we were seeing for fees and stuff coming back. So we decided to go ahead and be opportunistic and lean in and build out the pipeline down there. So we actually fully own all EOG's capacity, 100-mile, 36-inch pipeline that goes from basically the center of the field over to [ Agua Dulce ], which is a market center, and it has a 1 Bcf based capacity which, as I said, is all EOG's, but it's easily expandable up to about 1.7 Bcf a day just with some booster compression that take us very minimal time to set and put it in place. So we're extremely excited about it. And then we can actually tie it in with all of our great marketing and the marketing strategy that we've had about diversification and flexibility there on the coast. We've got our LNG agreements where we've got close to 1 Bcf of offtake over there. All of our [ Cheniere ] agreements are on, which includes 420,000 MMBtu, which is monthly election, either JKM or Henry Hub linked. So we can elect that on a monthly basis. Also, we've got 300,000 MMBtu a day that's linked directly to Henry Hub without any differential. And then looking for more market exposure on the international front, we actually recently did a deal with [ Vital ] for 140,000 MMBtu, which is Brent linked, which helps take some of the volatility out and get more of that international linked pricing. That comes along with, I think, 40,000 a day Houston Ship Channel. And then on top of that, we also took out about 360 million a day on [ Transco's TLIF line ], which actually runs all the way around the coast over the Southeast Market Center, which is where you really have premiums. So yes, we can flex Dorado very, very quickly in response to the market whenever gas is needed. Obviously, we'll keep an eye on the gas market as LNG continues to pick up there on the cost. And then also, as you talked about, the opportunity for additional power man and data centers as that continues evolve over the time.
Unknown Analyst
analystYes. I think the commercial strategy is worth highlighting because being able to think ahead of the time ahead of the market and get these agreements in early really extract value long term. Are you -- is there a thing -- that you the opportunities in the market [indiscernible] commercialization on the marketing side that's interesting or as we think ahead for the next 5-plus years?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes. I mean I think there's still a lot of opportunities to get international pricing on the LNG side. Our initial Cheniere agreement was very unique. And it's tough to get another agreement like that, but we're getting creative. We're trying to link it to different international markets to make sure we have a premium, and it gives us lots of flexibility. I mean also, as you talked about here domestically, there is a lot of interest from the data center side. I think it's just a matter of it maturing a little bit more in that market and getting to a point where we would like a premium price, obviously, for our gas. And I think a lot of the data centers, they'd like a cheap, reliable gas. So finding the right price in the middle that makes the right choice for the company. And I think, really, you can kind of look at some of those deals almost as like a hedge if you were to do it. So I think it's strategic and they work in areas where you have stranded gas, and there's potential opportunity, like I said, as that market evolves.
Unknown Analyst
analystThat makes sense. Technology, EOG has always been a technology leader. And in my [indiscernible] just find we're in this technology renaissance that they're seeing new different ideas and innovation that's making the assets better. Are you seeing -- like, where are you seeing the most change or competitive advantage where the technologies bring to the EOG's assets?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes, technology is constantly evolving. And I think we look at it from kind of a multifaceted lens because we're constantly innovating, trying different things. And I'd probably break it down into 3 categories for EOG. The first is well performance or really what we want to talk about is recovery factor because that's what the holy grail is. One of the things that we've done, I think, that's unique is we're really focused on what we call our ultra-high-intensity completions, which they're unique from a multitude of angles. So the first thing is each well in wellbore, we design specifically for what treatment we need to, to really maximize the overall productivity of it. And what we've also done is with our actual frac fleets, I mean, the majority of our frac fleets can do 200, 240 barrels a minute. So we have a lot of energy that we're able to apply downhole. And the main focus there is to be able to uniformly distribute that energy along the rock within a stage to maximize your overall surface area. And ultimately, there by introducing and creating this much fracture face that you can contact with the wellbore, that's what you're creating really there is that connectivity to the wellbore that increases your overall recovery factor and your performance. And we've had a lot of success. We've talked about the success we've had over the last 5-plus years in the Permian, and we continue to test new iterations of that. And then most recently down in Dorado, where just last year alone, we've had upwards of 15% to 20% increase in productivity by applying those high-intensity completions. So I still see a long way to go there. Like I said, we're designing specific wellbores now to really remove any kind of limits or restrictions we have, and we're really seeing a lot of great progress with that technology. The second, I would say, would be probably cost and efficiency side. One of the big things we always talk about, but we're only really kind of at 30% utilization in the company is the EOG motor program. It's something where we stepped into the market. We tried to partner with some drilling motor companies. But what we saw was we wanted to push the motors to the limit, find out what would break and then redesign them to where we could understand on the metallurgy on the connections on the components, what needed to get better so we could basically create the indestructible motor -- it was tough to partner with anybody. So we said, I guess we're getting into the motor business. And it's just been a home run. We've seen great success all across the portfolio. And I'd say probably the greatest success to point to is even in Dorado. It's our toughest drilling. It's high pressure. It's high-temperature drilling down there. And the majority of the wells that we actually drill, we can actually drill the vertical, the curve and the lateral all the way out multiple miles with BHA, and those are mostly all EOG motors. So that's one of the technologies that I think we're really pushing has a lot of upside. Another, I would say, is continuous pumping. We're to the point we don't even shut down on frac jobs. We basically will go ahead and lower our rate down to about 10 barrels a minute. We have auto valve systems that close the wells you're on, open the new wells and automatically redirect the rate and you go ahead and ramp your rate back up. So there's really no downtime whatsoever in between stages. And we've also seen it has a huge effect on the maintenance side of it. We've actually created barriers withinside of our fleets, so you don't have to pull them out of line to work on them. You can basically take it offline, remove it from the pressure, but you don't have to move that pump and you can continue pumping with the rest of it. So a lot of great stuff going on that. And the last one I would say that's kind of hitting a lot of the industry in the world is data analytics. We have really 2 areas, I would say, sensors and in the AI realm. In the sensor realm, what we've done is we've started putting a lot of sensors down hole where we're able to capture very valuable geologic data things like post-ons ratio and Young's modulus understanding where fractures are within the rock, and we can get that data and obviously apply it as we continue to drill the well into our completions and onto the next wells on. We've also taken those sensors and we placed them on all sorts of surface equipment. So we're constantly listening. We're recording the vibrations in it. And if you see any kind of change in the harmonics, you can identify failures of all sorts of equipment before it actually fails so you can minimize the damage to it, you can quickly shut it down, fix it and you don't have major downtime events. So that's been very, very big for the company, and we've really been rolling that out heavily over the last couple of years. And then the last one is AI. What I'd say is it's becoming a big part of our business as it is with everybody's daily life. What I would say is this, it's not going to replace our people. Our people are truly our resource, and they're the innovators out there to push the limits on what's going to be next in the industry. But it's taking those monotonous tasks, whether it's documentation, reporting, whether it's the analytical side of it, whether it's even just software engineering and programming. It can take those monotonous tasks off, do them very quickly and allow our people on really focusing on innovation and adding more value for the company.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd I'm hearing better wells, lower cost and more efficient organization. We are hearing more about inflation commentaries here at the conference, particularly from services. I think for does that basically offset everything you're saying on the technology and efficiencies that basically can offset the inflation? Or where do you think the cost trend net of everything is trending?
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes. I'd say on the services side and the cost side, there has been some slight inflation, but we really haven't seen a huge shift. We've got very strategic partners. We're one of those people where we don't gouge them for the lowest cost whenever it's a downturn, and they don't gouge us for the highest cost whenever it's an upturn. So I think that's one thing. The other thing is we're very insulated from the market. I mean diesel has been something that there's been huge inflation in across the board, and we're going to continue to have higher diesel costs. Well, the majority of all our field operations run off natural gas. 70-plus percent of our rigs run off natural gas and 100% of our completion fleets run off natural gas. So that's been a great insulator. The other thing I think we got to keep an eye on is steel has started to increase across the market. So we've leveraged our inventory where we normally keep kind of a 6- to 12-month inventory wherever it is, we can opportunistically purchase ahead of time and really try to insulate ourselves from that. We've already started purchasing well into '27 to try to insulate ourselves. So yes, I think it's a multitude of things. You've got to be more efficient, utilize the technology, continue to drive your cost down those ways, but you also need to insulate yourself from the market by doing a lot of self-sourcing and making sure that you're going out and you're procuring the things that you need ahead of time at the right price.
Unknown Analyst
analystGreat. Well, unfortunately, we're running out -- we're out of time. But Jeff, thank you so much for this conversation. There's a lot going on with the portfolio. So thank you.
Jeffrey Leitzell
executiveYes. Thank you so much.
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