Erste Group Bank AG (EBS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 25, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Friedrich Rödler
executiveLadies and gentlemen, as Chairman of the Supervisory Board, I take the Chair pursuant to Article 160, Paragraph 1 of the Stock Corporation Act, and open today's Extraordinary General Meeting of Erste Group Bank AG. For the protection of shareholders and other participants, the Management Board has decided to make use of the existing legal provision for holding a virtual general meeting. Today's general meeting will be held as a virtual general meeting in accordance with the COVID-19 Company Act and the COVID-19 Company Law Ordinance, taking into account the interest of both the company and the participants, and will be broadcast in full on the Internet. Conducting the Extraordinary General Meeting as a virtual general meeting in accordance with the COVID-19 Company Law Ordinance results in certain changes of modifications in the procedure for the general meeting as well as in the exercise of the rights of shareholders, which was set out in the convocation letter and in the participation information made available on the company's website and which Mr. Brix will discuss in detail later. First of all, you will be provided with the presentations of the Management Board regarding the sole item on the agenda of today's Extraordinary General Meeting as well as the corresponding proposal for resolution. Afterwards, the special proxies will have the floor to read out any proposed resolutions. This will be followed by the debate on the sole item on the agenda, that is to say reading out and answering the questions by the members of the Management Board or myself. At this point, I would like to inform you, dear shareholders, that you can send your questions to the Management Board by e-mail to the e-mail address, [email protected]. I'd like to point out that during today's Extraordinary General Meeting, questions will be answered only on the sole item on the agenda, that is the distribution of profit. Other topics are not part of the debate today. Furthermore, I'd like to ask you to submit your questions as early as possible in order to enable us to answer any additional questions. At the appropriate point, if necessary, to answer incoming questions or to allow for final question, there will be a short interruption of the general meeting. After the questions and the sole item on the agenda have been answered, the motion on the sole item on the agenda will be put to the vote. I declare that, first, the convocation letter of today's Extraordinary General Meeting was published in accordance with the provision of Section 106 of Corporation Act in due time in on the 4th of November 2022. Second, furthermore, pursuant to Section 107, Paragraph 3 of the Stock Corporation Act, electronic European distribution was conducted by pressetext on the 4th of November 2021. On the 4th of November 2021, also in accordance with the provision of Stock Exchange Law, transmission of the convocation letter pursuant to Section 180, Paragraph 2 of the Stock Exchange Act 2018 took place via the intermediary chain to the shareholders. I note that no motions for additions to the agenda and no further proposals for resolutions have been received from shareholders, and therefore, were not to be published on the company's website. Therefore, only the agenda item announced in the convocation letter of the 4th of November 2021 can be dealt with in today's general meeting. The documents to be disclosed pursuant to Sections 108, Paragraphs 3 and 4 of the Stock Corporation Act were made available on the company's website on the 4th of November 2021, in particular, information on the organizational and technical requirements for attendance pursuant to Section 3, Paragraph 3, in conjunction with Section 2, Paragraph 4 of the COVID-19 Company Law Ordinance, a question form, a power of attorney and voting instruction form for the special proxies pursuant to Section 3, Paragraph 4 of the COVID-19 Company Law ordinance. Notary Brix is requested to notarize the resolutions of today's extraordinary general meeting. Furthermore, to supervise the conduct of the building and to record minutes in accordance with Section 120 of the Stock Corporation Act. I'd now like to ask Dr. Brix to explain the modalities for exercising shareholders' rights during today's virtual general meeting and the proceeding for the Extraordinary General Meeting, which have been made available on the company's website. Mr. Brix, please.
Rupert Brix
executiveDear shareholders, in the convocation letter for the general meeting of 4th of November 2021, it was announced that today's Extraordinary General Meeting would take place as a virtual general meeting without the physical presence of the shareholders. In addition, information on the organizational and technical requirements for participation in the general meeting, pursuant to Section 3, Paragraph 3, in conjunction with Section 2, Paragraph 4 of the COVID-19 Company Law Ordinance, was made available on the company's website on the 4th of November 2021. Today's extraordinary general meeting will take place in the presence of the Chairman Supervisory Board, Friedrich Rodler; the Chairman of the Management Board Bernhard Spalt; the members of the Management Board, Stefan Dorfler, Ingo Bleier, Alexandra Habeler-Drabek, David O'Mahoney, and Maurizio Poletto, the 4 special proxies, lawyers, Nikolaus Adensamer, Michael Knap, lawyer, Christoph Nauer; and Lawyer Ewald Oberhammer, Lawyer Richard Wolf as legal adviser, and myself as certifying notary. As representatives of the audit Sparkassen-Prüfungsverband, Gerhard Margetich and can be reached by the Management Board and the Chairman of the Supervisory Board by telephone and e-mail for any questions. They are following the general meeting via the live stream. As representative of the auditor, PwC Wirtschaftsprüfung GmbH, Dorotea-E. Rebmann can be reached by the Management Board and the Chairman of the Supervisory Board by telephone and e-mail for any questions. She's following the general meeting via the live stream. As representatives of FMA, the state commissioners received an invitation today's general meeting and have the opportunity to follow it via the live stream. The state commissioners can communicate with us during the general meeting, and if necessary, contact the Management Board or the Chairman of the general meeting. How are shareholder's rights exercised today? Voting rights, the rights to propose resolutions and the rights to object are exercised exclusively by granting power of attorney and issuing instructions to one of the special proxies proposed by the company. The rights to information can be exercised at today's virtual general meeting by the shareholders themselves or by their authorized representatives by means of electronic communication. Now to the transfer and the procedure for today's general meeting in detail. Pursuant to Section 3, Paragraph 4 of the COVID-19 Company Law Ordinance injunction -- in conjunction with Section 102, Paragraph 4 of the Stock Corporation Act, a real-time audience video webcast to full general meeting will be streamed live online. As the Bank AG, I'll pursue 2 alternative accesses to the online audio and video broadcast in German language. Please select one of them on the Erste Bank AG website, video webcast, Extraordinary Annual General Meeting '21, or alternative stream video webcast, Extraordinary Annual General Meeting 2021. If you experience any disruptions during the transmission, please switch to the other access. Today's general meeting will be held in German. The entire general meeting will be translated from German into English. The corresponding live stream can be accessed on the English language website. Furthermore, the German stream will also be available in sign language for the duration of the entire general meeting. By broadcasting the general meeting on the Internet, all shareholders who wish to do so have the opportunity to follow the procedure of the general meeting in real time via this acoustic and optical connection and to follow the explanations of the Management Board on the sole agenda item, the answering of shareholders' questions and the voting procedure in real time. Please note that the live broadcast as a virtual general meeting does not allow for remote participation, Section 102, Paragraph 3, Sub-Paragraph 2 Stock Corporation Act, or remote voting pursuant to Section 102, Paragraph 3, Sub-Paragraph 3, Stock Operation Act, and Section 126, Stock Corporation Act. And that the transmission on the Internet is not a 2-way connection. The individual shareholders can therefore only follow the general meeting as it proceeds. How is the right to information exercised specifically? Shareholders and their proxies authorized to exercise the right to information and the right to speak, also have the opportunity during the general meeting to electronically submit their questions in writing within a certain time window after the opening of the general meeting to the Management Board exclusively via the e-mail address, [email protected]. At today's general meeting, these questions will be read out by the Chairman of the Supervisory Board and then answered by the Management Board or the Chairman of the Supervisory Board. Please use the question form available on the company's website at www.erstegroup.com or send a simple e-mail to the e-mail address [email protected]. Please send the simple email from the e-mail address indicating in the proxy in order to ensure a quick verification of your identity. This simple e-mail must state the shareholder's first and last name or company name, the shareholder's date of birth or commercial register number and the deposit account number to enable the Management Board to establish identity and compliance with the deposit certificate. Please send your e-mail with your name, reproduction of personal signature according to Section 3, Paragraph 2, Stock Corporation Act. The shareholders will thus have the opportunity to respond to developments at the general meeting themselves, for example, by asking a question or a supplementary questions. The chair will structure the procedure of the general meeting in terms of time, as is also the case at an attendance meeting. Now for the special proxies. In addition, shareholders may change their instructions to the special proxies, in particular, regarding the submission of proposals for resolutions, voting or changing their instructions regarding voting on the sole item on the agenda, but also regarding raising objections to the sole item on the agenda to the respective proxy even during the general meeting up to a certain point in time. Please use a simple e-mail sent to the e-mail address of your proxy to whom you've also sent your power of attorney. These e-mail addresses are [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] [email protected]. In this simple e-mail, the shareholder, that is to say first name and surname or company name of the shareholder, date of birth or commercial register number of the shareholder must be stated in order to enable the proxy to establish the identity and conformity with the power of attorney. Please send your e-mail with your name, reproduction of the name signature according to Section 3, Paragraph 2, Stock Corporation Act, and also state your deposit number as already mentioned. The e-mail must be sent from the e-mail address indicated in the power of attorney. Please note that during the general meeting, communication with your proxy is only possible by e-mail, and in particular, that the proxy cannot be reached by telephone. The point in time up until which instructions regarding the submission of motions, the casting of votes and the raising of objections are possible will be determined by the Chairman during the general meeting. This time is expected to be close to the end of the debate on the sole item on the agenda. It should be noted that it may be necessary to interrupt the virtual general meeting briefly in order to safely deal with questions to the Management Board and instructions from shareholders to proxies received during the general meeting or to admit final questions. This was a summary of the procedure for today's Virtual General Meeting as disclosed on the company's website, in particular, in the document information on the organization on technical requirements for attendance pursuant to Section 3, Paragraph 3, in conjunction with Section 2, Paragraph 4 of the COVID-19 Company Law Ordinance. Thank you for your attention.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveNotary Brix, thank you for your explanations. As Chairman, I order that today's general meeting be conducted in the manner announced in the letter of convocation and in the information made available on the company's website regarding the organizational and technical requirements for attendance pursuant to Section 3, Paragraph 3, in conjunction with Section 2, Paragraph 4 of the COVID-19 Company Law Ordinance, and presented by Notary Brix. The list of participants will be completed before the vote, signed by me, and the attendance will be announced to you. The list of participants will be made available electronically for inspection by the special proxies present in the room. We now open the agenda, and I give the floor to Bernhard Spalt. Mr. Spalt, please.
Bernhard Spalt
executiveThank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to use the opportunity at this Extraordinary General Meeting to describe the economic trend conditions and the economic development of the company, which also result in the draft resolution of today's Annual General Meeting, namely the distribution of an additional distribution. Before I give my explanation, let me make a statement. When the pandemic broke out in March 2020, it was completely unclear what would happen. It was clear that the health crisis would hit the world, that it would affect the economic development of companies, we had a lockdown, and the economic environment changed overnight. And it was unclear how and when this health crisis could be fought. Many macroeconomic experts and scientists tried to anticipate the development. Would we hit rock bottom and then see an economic -- a sharp economic rise like a V? Would we have a decline and then develop at a stable condition like an L? Would it be in a U form, which requires a longer process to recover? Or how would the situation look like? In the meantime, we know, and this is due to effective vaccination schemes, we know that we have a V shape recovery. That is to say we had a sharp decline in 2020. And due to the fact that vaccines were developed quickly, the economy quickly recovered in our countries. So it was the ideal case and the ideal form of an economic recovery. So now we have to question ourselves, what happens now? In all of our countries, and you see it in this slide, we saw that and we see that the real economic growth is increasing. And it is better than the rest of Europe, in our countries because we have a more dynamic economic region as compared to other European regions. So we have to ask ourselves, how will be the future development? This slide says strong recovery in 2021, with positive outlook and some question marks. It is important to mention that we have some question marks. We know that the economy recovered. We see good development. But no one expected another lockdown. So this is the first confirmation of a question mark, so to speak. We all hope that we wouldn't see any further lockdowns, and this is not something that have been planned or could be planned. But there are also other question marks as regards to future development. We know that inflation has been described as being temporary and could be explained with base effects. But I think the situation is different. The question is, can inflation be a long-term topic, increasing energy prices, fragile supply chains, lack of qualified labor? And what about the supply-demand situation? And this supply-demand situation might not be able to be addressed by monetary policy alone. So the question is, will -- can companies produce if they lack resources or if they don't have a skilled labor? These are the topics that will accompany us in the future and will be the major challenges ahead of us. Our economies developed extremely robust. Domestic demand supports economic growth. And as far as next year is concerned, we basically are positive as far as the development is concerned. It is much too early to say that we have overcome the pandemic. We have had some setbacks in fighting the health crisis, but the basic macroeconomic model is very strong. And this is also reflected in our business development. If you look at the performance of the first 9 months in the business model of Erste Group, you see an extremely robust and dynamic result. We have an operating result that grew year-over-year by 20%, by almost 20%. And this underlines that after a phase of uncertainty, when people didn't know about the development on the labor market, didn't know about incoming orders, and people were rather reluctant to decide on the consumer side as well as on the production side. But these states clearly that the world improved and that the environment improved. I will come back later on what the individual contributors were to this positive development. But let me state the operating result shows that are doing business in the right region and that our business model, a retail and commercial business banking, in our region is the appropriate model to see sustainable and long-term result. Risk cost is an extremely important topic because risk costs are a driver of our net result. Last year, for reasons of prudence and anticipation and because we didn't know what the future would bring, how unemployment would develop, how many insolvencies we would see after profits have gone down, we posted high risk costs. This year, we have much less, and I'll come back to our business outlook a little bit later. And of course, this contributes to a positive result. And I'll come back to the credit portfolio quality and coverage later on as well. Let me also state that this is not a reflection of a short-term reaction of the crisis, but proof of a good business and the risk policy in the past years. As far as credit quality is concerned, the portfolio of Erste Group is extremely excellent, robust, very stable, and will overcome the crisis. This is not a tactical effect. It is the -- it is a consequence of prudent business making. We have a strong operating result, which also reflects our cost policy. COVID -- not only in COVID, we have an extremely disciplined approach as far as costs are concerned. This is very important especially in an environment where increasing efficiency is key. We always were -- watching our costs, and this is independent of COVID. I'd like to state that. This is one of our commitments. This just doesn't -- this hasn't happened without any underlying business model. This would have happened without COVID as well. The cost income ratio is, of course, depending on high turnovers. I already mentioned the inflation. In our portfolio, we are not a sole Europe player. We also have currencies that -- and countries that do not have the euro as a currency. And these countries reacted in a very good way to inflation and already increased interest. This helps us in the Czech Republic, in Hungary and Romania. And this will also support our business development. Our portfolio -- we have a good portfolio mix which against the inflation landscape benefits from non-euro countries. In the first 9 months, we have 130% increase in the net result. And this is also the reason why we came out this Extraordinary General meeting today where we discuss and resolve on the distribution of an additional dividend from a position of strength. Credit growth came back after the first deep crisis, plus 6% customer loans. At the beginning of the crisis, we had bridge financing and revolving loans. But now we have investment financing. Companies believe in the future and believe in investing in the future. And this is what it is all about, how do we get out of this valley of tears? How can we finance growth? Now this robust growth is coming back. And people invest in new business models. Customer deposits in this low interest environment still rose. They are still growing, but not as fast as before. This is leveling out. And this is logical because customers say, "I want to be cautious. I want to save money. But at the same time, say, I want to travel, I want to spend money, I want to invest and I want to consume. And this is why the growth curve is flattening as far as customer deposits are concerned. And this also helps our business model. If we look at the NPL ratio, it states that the NPL ratio is 2.4%. And the -- in the past 30 years, this is a record low percentage rate. This is surprising. Because we haven't thought that all the COVID measures by the state will be as effective as they were, subsidies, state subsidized loans had a strong effect in the first phase of the crisis and helped people overcome the first time of the crisis. So we have a surprisingly low NPL ratio and the coverage ratios are historically high at almost 90%. That results in a capital situation which is extremely comfortable. We always said that our goal is 13.5% CET1 ratio. At the moment, we have 14.2%. But this 14.2% do not take into account the profit of the third quarter. If we calculate it, included the results of the third quarter 2021, we are at 14.5% CET1 ratio. That is to say we have a very solid buffer. And based on this buffer, based on this comfortable situation, we think that our shareholders can take part in our success. In May, we decided to distribute a dividend of EUR 0.5 per share, and not because we wanted to distribute only [ 0.5% ] per share, but because there were regulatory recommendations to pay out not more in a situation where the COVID pandemic and the effects of the COVID pandemic could not be anticipated and calculated. The situation has changed, and we today propose that we pay out an additional dividend of EUR 1 per share, and this results in a dividend of EUR 0.5 per share. And we already reserved EUR 0.8 per share for the next year in order to come back to our dividend policy, which is progressively increasing. What we propose today, the distribution of an additional EUR 1 does not have an effect on our CET1 ratio because we already deducted that from the CET1 ratio. This is not something that is affecting our company. We already deducted that. And we think that the shareholders are entitled to an additional dividend. So this is a slide containing much information. I don't know whether you can read it. Let me try to give an outlook for 2021. Operating environment. Basically, I think the environment is positive. The question marks, I already mentioned, should not be left out. We have fragile supply chains. We have scarce resources. And we have pressure on energy prices. And the question is, how this will develop in the course of 2021? The fundamental drivers for economic growth are there. Business performance, business development is also very positive. We saw robust growth on the commission side. We also expect double-digit growth in the operating result, in percentage terms. And we also expect -- on the insurance side and the security side, and payment development will be positive, and we will see double-digit growth rates. Credit risk is robust and also covered sufficiently. Capital, as already said, is -- CET1 ratio is above our targets. And this gives us room to maneuver, to look for further investment opportunities and to pay out dividends to our shareholders. I think it's worth mentioning to say that based on a CET1 ratio that is markedly above 14.2%, we have a 15% return on equity. And this is something not many banks can state. We haven't talked about the share price yet. The share price reflects that there is an overbooking. We are one of the few banks in Europe that are overbooked. This means that we have a robust and good business model and that we also have been very disciplined in implementing our business model. We are setting the right focus points, the right priorities, ecological transformation or digital transformation, just to mention 2 examples. And I think that we can rest assured and propose a dividend of EUR 1 per shareholder today. Thank you very much.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you, Bernhard, For your explanations. I would like to ask Stefan Dorfler for his report on own shares required by Section 65, Paragraph 3 of the Stock Corporation Act.
Stefan Dörfler
executiveThank you very much, Chairman. The following report explains the acquisition of sale of own shares by Erste Group Bank AG and its affiliated companies from May 1 to 31st October 2021. The reasons and purposes were securities trading, market making and authorized share buyback programs. The transaction took place on and off the stock exchange. For the purpose of securities trading and market making, 1 -- 1,050,470 shares with a share of 0.31% in the share capital were acquired in the aforementioned period. A total of 1,363,089 shares were sold, representing 0.32% of the share capital. The total purchase price was EUR 45,688,027.25, and total sales price was EUR 46,091,947.51. The respective gain or loss was recognized in trading profit. As at October 31, 2021, Erste Group Bank AG held a short sale portfolio of 52,439 treasury shares, which was covered by borrowing transactions. Within the scope of authorized share buyback programs, 31,000 shares with a share of 0.0072% in the share capital were acquired in the reporting period. The total purchase price was EUR 1,080,971. The respective profit or loss was recognized in the income statement. On October 20 -- 31, 2021, the company held 1,623,493 treasury shares, representing 0.38% of the share capital.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveI thank Mr. Dorfler for his report. I now proceed to the sole item on the agenda, that is resolution on the proposition of the profit of 2020. The Management Board and the Supervisory Board propose that the general meeting pass the following resolution. The profit available for distribution recognized in the company's financial accounts as of 31st December 2020 and amounting to EUR 644,700,000, of which a partial amount of EUR 240,900,000 has already been appropriated in accordance with the resolutions adopted by the Annual General Meeting on 19th May 2021, will be distributed as follows in accordance with the present proposal put forward by the Management Board and the Supervisory Board. For each share entitled to a dividend, a further dividend of EUR 1 will be distributed, adding up to a total of no more than EUR 429,800,000. The company is not entitled to any dividend payments from treasury shares. Notwithstanding Clause 23.4 of the Articles of Association, which stipulates payout of the dividend 10 days after the general meeting, the dividend payment date will be on the 2nd of December 2021. I now give the floor to Stefan Dorfler and would ask him to explain the proposed resolution, the draft resolution of the Management Board and the Supervisory Board on the sole item on the agenda.
Stefan Dörfler
executiveI would like to present the justification in more detail. At the Annual General Meeting on May 19, 2021, a resolution was adopted in line with the proposal put forward by the Management Board and the Supervisory Board for the appropriation of profit recognized in the company's financial accounts as at 31st December 2020 in the amount of EUR 644,700,000 to disburse a dividend in the amount of EUR 0.50 for each share entitled to a dividend, specifically a total of no more than EUR 214,900,000 and to carry forward to new account the remaining profit of EUR 429,800,000. The draft resolution put forward by the Management Board and the Supervisory Board took into account the recommendation of the European Central Bank of 15 December 2020, ECB 2020-60 due on dividend distributions during COVID-19 pandemic and repealing recommendation ECB 2020-35. ECB repealed this recommendation, replacing it with recommendation of 23rd of July 2020, ECB 2020-31. ECB considers that the reasons underpinning the recommendation of 15 December 2020 are no longer present as the latest macroeconomic projections indicate the start of economic recovery and a further reduction in the level of economic uncertainty. According to the ECB, this allows the thorough supervisory assessment of the prudence of bank's plans to distribute dividends on an individual basis, with a careful forward-looking assessment of capital plans in the context of the normal supervisory cycle. In view of the ECB's recommendation of 23rd of July 2020, ECB 2021-31, the Management Board and the Supervisory Board carefully considered the sustainability of the business model and the risks and the impact on the capital trajectory, and to that effect, proposed disbursement of the total profit of the 2020 financial year in the amount of EUR 429,800,000, which was carried forward to new account at the Annual General Meeting on 19th May 2021. This draft resolution also constitutes the proposal for the appropriation of profit. The disbursement of dividends will be subject to withholding tax in accordance with tax regulations.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you very much, Mr. Dorfler, for your explanations. This concludes the explanations of the management board and the presentation of the draft resolution of the Management Board and the Supervisory Board on the sole item on the agenda. I'll now give the floor to each of the special proxies. Please let me know if any motions for resolutions have been received from the proxy shareholders. And if so, please read them out. If not, please confirm that you have not received any motions for resolutions so far. I give the floor, first of all, to Nikolaus Adensamer.
Nikolaus Adensamer
attendeeThank you very much, Chairman. There are no resolutions I have received from shareholders.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you. The floor is granted to Mr. Michael Knap.
Michael Knap
attendeeChairman, thank you very much. I would like to report that I have -- I represent 529 shareholders with -- holding 9.19% of the share capital from them. No resolutions -- no proposed resolutions have been received.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you, Mr. Knap. I'll give the floor to Mr. Christoph Nauer.
Christoph Nauer
attendeeChairman, thank you very much. No proposals for resolutions have been received from my shareholders I am representing.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveI give the floor to Ewald Oberhammer.
Ewald Oberhammer
attendeeChairman, I have not received any motions for both resolutions so far.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you very much. So notary will record these comments, statements. I hereby inform you of the current attendance at today's general meeting. I note that according to the list of participants prepared in accordance with Section [ 297 ] of the Stock corporation Act, 4,119 shareholders are represented by the 4 special proxies who are entitled to represent 7,467,101 votes. The General Meeting has the necessary quorum for the agenda meet item. The list of participants will be made available electronically to the 4 special proxies present. For data protection reasons, we refrain from disclosing the list of participants in this transmission on the Internet.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveWe now start the debate on the sole item on the agenda, that is reading out and answering the questions of Shareholders. I will read out the questions in the management. Only questions on the sole item on the agenda will be answered. I ask for your understanding in this regard. I will read out the questions, and the management board or I myself will answer them. I have a list of questions here in front of me, before me. From Mr. Berthold Berger, voting card 162, how many people are present or logged in, in Austria and abroad? At 10:10, 91 persons have logged on, 5 of them from abroad and 86 from Austria. The next question refers -- it was stated by Alexander Kotslik, voting card 55. He wants to know about the cost of virtual meeting and a personal meeting and the costs of this Extraordinary General Meeting. Total costs and detailed costs, today's general meeting has not been settled. The most recent virtual meeting was EUR 200,000 gross. We assume that we will have lower costs for this meeting today. The most recent attendance meeting was EUR 480,000 in terms of costs. Next question, that was raised by Mr. Kotslik, 55 voting card. Each shareholder will be happy to receive a dividend. Why is this amount not distributed in the next meeting in May 22? This will save a lot of costs. Please, could this be answered by Mr. Dorfler?
Stefan Dörfler
executiveThank you very much, Mr. Kotslik, for your question. In May, at the Annual General Meeting, we spoke about this issue. We said then that if the ECB requirements admit, we will distribute the proposed dividend even in this very year, and this is now being implemented consistently.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveNext question, by shareholder, Mr. Berthold Berger, voting card 162. How many shareholders were present in the Annual General Meeting logged in, in Austria and abroad? You refer to the most recent Annual General Meeting -- regular meeting in May 2021. We answered the question already, but we do that again. At the 2021 Annual General Meeting, 378 people were logged on, 352 from Austria. Next question by Mr. Berthold Berger, can you say something about the third quarter which you presented on the 2nd of November? Could you say a few words on that and on the countries in which as Erste AG is operating? This question goes to Mr. Spalt, but I think he has answered this question in detail at the beginning of his presentation. Next question by Mr. Berger. How many employees do -- are available in the back office? How many of them are outside people? Today, around 20 people work at the back office, but there are more employees available by telephone or by e-mails. We also have an external person in terms of legal advice if necessary. Next question by Mr. Berger. How many employees worked home before the lockdown and how many are there right now? Before the lockdown, in the central areas, we had 60% of our employees working from home. As of Monday this week, it has gone up to 75% working from home. The branches, since the beginning of the pandemic, they were considered as critical infrastructure, are fully staffed. Thank you very much. Another question by Mr. Berger. What will be the costs -- estimated costs of this virtual meeting? This question has been answered in detail. Another question by Mr. Berger. What are the effects of the corona -- of the COVID-related measures to -- what are the impacts on the business of Erste Bank? Thank you very much. The branches do not depend on -- are not affected by the lockdown measures, and we see strong frequency continuously. I must say, so far, I have not heard of any negative impact due to the lockdown, but there are indirect ones, for sure, which -- are due to the fact that we do not know what the further subsidy measures will be fixed in terms of financial impacts. None of us would have believed that we would ever see another lockdown looking back -- we can handle the situation quite well in operating terms. Next question by Mr. Berger. Why do we not have female proxies here? Well, we relied on the tried and tested representation by proxies. But we do appreciate your note, and we will take it into account as we go on. Next question by Mr. Berger. What is the cost of the full proxies? And how many shareholders do they represent? The cost is -- for today's meeting is presumably EUR 5,000 gross. This will depend, of course, on the duration of the meeting, and they represent 4,190 shareholders. Next question by Mr. Berger. What the effects of the distribution of dividends to equity and net debt and gearing? This question is for CFO, Stefan Dorfler.
Stefan Dörfler
executiveThank you very much. As already mentioned by Mr. Spalt, the proposed distribution has no effect on the current capital ratios and not on the leverage ratio after the disbursement of dividends has be -- with subtracted from the CET1.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveNext question by Mr. Berger. In other countries where the Erste Bank is operating there is a risk that lockdown will be imposed. What are your provisions for this eventuality? Thank you very much. Of course, this is a justified concern. Slovakia has imposed a 2-week lockdown. As long as we cannot control the pandemic, as long as incidents rates go up and intensive care units are working full capacity, we need to combat the repercussions. We do hope that we will arrive at the situation to get a vaccination rate that allows for ruling out any lockdown. We are well prepared. We know how to deal with it. And we are quite prudent and careful in managing the crisis. I have another question by Mr. Berger. What is the book value per share at the moment? And I'd like to thank the CEO and the employees of Erste Bank, and he extends his warm greetings and all the best, and he hopes that there will be an attendance meeting next year as we used to do from before. Who can answer that?
Stefan Dörfler
executiveThank you, Chairman. Thank you for your wishes. We can return these wishes regarding good health, and we hope that the pandemic will be controlled soon. Book value as of 31st of December, EUR 34.0. At the end of September, it's EUR 36.7. Tangible Book value is EUR 33.6, but economically relevant is EUR 36.7 at the third quarter of 2021.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you very much. Another question by Mr. Berger. What is the view of the management board on inflation in Romania and Austria? Mr. Spalt?
Bernhard Spalt
executiveThank you. Let me start with Austria. The year started with an inflation rate of 1.1%, rising to 3.2% in August and September. This market rise was due to the hike -- spike in energy prices and due to basic effects of lower prices in 2020. These effects should at least last until the spring of 2021. So monthly inflation rates will remain high in the months to come. In the next year, this is our hope in -- particularly as of the second quarter, we expect and hope that the robust recovery of the economy will help us. In total, inflation in Austria in March 2021 will be 20.7%, and in 2022, it should be 2.4%. These are expectations, hopes, I must say, which are influenced by many drivers. This is our assessment. It may well be that the situation in the demand and supply will have an effect. Looking at Romania, 2.7% was the figure for [ 2021 to 20 ], and it's almost 5% this year. For next year, it's 5.5%, presumably. Short-term predictability is quite restricted. Due to the energy price situation, we don't know how they will develop. And government subsidies, which is another topic here, but we do see that this will be around about 5% for this year and next year.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you very much for your answer. I have another question by Mr. Berger. How long will we have to pay -- will the bank have to pay negative interest rates to the ECB?
Stefan Dörfler
executiveThank you very much. The answer is, as the Chairman has just said, it's a crystal ball we need to have. All analysts see no change in ECB's interest rate policy. So for foreseeable period of time, we will see no change supposedly. And the environment of, as Mr. Spalt said and commented, regarding inflation, there may be some change. From today's perspective, we cannot make any statement in this regard.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you very much for your answer. I have no more questions from the shareholders before me, in front of me. I would now like to interrupt the general meeting for a break of 5 minutes. It's now 10:57. I order that only those questions that are received by 11:00, 3 minutes, by e-mail to the address [email protected] will be answered. After that time, further questions will no longer be considered. Only questions received by that time will be answered. Furthermore, I hereby order that the final submission of motions by transmitting motions for resolutions of shareholders as well as the issuance of instructions for the exercise of voting rights to the special proxies by e-mail is possible also until 11:03 a.m, and that motions, instructions received thereafter will no longer be considered. I interrupt the meeting for this short break. [Break]
Friedrich Rödler
executiveDear shareholders, the countdown is now over. No further relevant questions have been received. I therefore close the debate on the sole item on the agenda.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveI now once again give the floor to the 4 special proxies present and ask for the reading of motions that have been received so far or ask for confirmation that no further motions have been received. I pass the floor to Nikolaus Adensamer.
Nikolaus Adensamer
attendeeThank you, Mr. Chairman. No proposals for resolutions have been received by.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveMr. Knap?
Michael Knap
attendeeThank you very much. I haven't received any proposals either. I have a change of instruction of one of the shareholders, but this has already been registered.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveMr. Nauer?
Christoph Nauer
attendeeThank you. I haven't received any proposals for resolutions either.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveMr. Oberhammer?
Ewald Oberhammer
attendeeI didn't receive any proposals either.
Friedrich Rödler
executiveThank you very much. Mr. Brix will record the procedure. It is now 11:05, and no further motions will be considered from now. That takes us to the vote on the sole item on the agenda. I order that the vote be taken according to the subtraction procedure. In this procedure, the no votes and abstentions are counted and subtracted from the total number of votes represented. This results in the yes votes. For the voting, the 4 special proxies, use the instruction cards or voting cards they received before the opening of the general meeting. By entering the respective instruction cards or voting cards into the IT system, the corresponding number of shares is recorded. In the case of yes votes, the instruction cards or voting cards do not need to be held up as the yes votes are determined according to the subtraction procedure. The instruction cards or voting cards will be read allowed by Notary Brix as usual for better recording. The voting process will be supervised by Notary Brix. And the -- Mr. Bauer from the accounting service will calculate the results. Let us now votes on the sole item on the agenda, resolution on the appropriation of the balance sheet profit 2020. [Voting]
Friedrich Rödler
executiveI now put to the vote the draft resolution I read out at the beginning, which was also made available on the website, as a motion that the general meeting resolve the following: the profit available for distribution recognized in the company's financial accounts as at 31st of December 2020 and amounting to EUR 644,700 million, of which a partial amount of EUR 214,900,000 has already been appropriated in accordance with the resolution adopted by the Annual General Meeting on 19th of May 2021, will be distributed as follows in accordance with the present proposal put forward by the Management Board and the Supervisory Board. For each share entitled to a dividend, a further dividend of EUR 1 will be distributed, adding up to a total of no more than EUR 429,800,000. The company is not entitled to any dividend payments from treasury shares. Notwithstanding Class 23.4 of the Articles of Association, which stipulates a payout of the dividend 10 days after the general meeting, the dividend payment date will be on the 2nd of December 2021. The proxies who is against this motion: Oberhammer, Adensamer, objections? Abstentions? Knap, Oberhammer? Thank you. [Voting]
Friedrich Rödler
executiveI can announce the result of the vote in the next moments. 306,881,958 yes votes. This is 99.838937%; objections, 495,084, 0.1610673% number of share for which valid votes were given; 307,370,042, percentage of the total share capital is 71.52%. I state that this motion has been adopted with the required majority, and that the general meeting has therefore approved the proposed appropriation of the profit by distributing a further dividend in the amount of EUR 1 per share entitled to a dividend. The agenda for today's Extraordinary General Meeting is thus completed. The voting result will be published on the company's home page. I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank the members of the Management Board and all employees of the company on behalf of the Supervisory Board for their great commitment in the financial years 2020 and '21. I'd also like to thank you, dear shareholders, for following today's virtual general meeting via the Internet. I'd now like to close the Extraordinary General Meeting. I'd like to say goodbye. I wish you all the best, and stay healthy. Thank you. [Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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