Esperion Therapeutics, Inc. (ESPR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 18, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Michael Yee
analystHi, everyone. Good morning, good afternoon, depending on where you are in the world. I'm Michael Yee, and I'm excited to host Esperion with us here on this fireside chat at the Jefferies Virtual Lending Global Conference. With us today, of course, we have the President and CEO of Esperion, Tim Mayleben. We also have the CFO Rick Bartram on with us.
Michael Yee
analystI would love to just start off, Tim, maybe just from a high level, and say congrats on approval and launch, particularly during a COVID environment. I think that deserves recognition, and it's certainly a testament to your guys' ability to execute. With all that said, of course, that has come with challenges with other companies as well that we have talked to during COVID. So maybe you could just make some opening comments about the state of the launch this year, the pluses and the minuses during the COVID environment and how you feel particularly about the progress of it as we go into the end of the year and into 2021?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveGreat. Hey, thanks, Mike, and I want to thank you and the entire Jefferies team for hosting us today, virtually. Blue skies in London, that's a rarity. And so definitely nice to see this time of the year.
Michael Yee
analystDefinitely a photoshoped view there because it's never this sunny there.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveNo, like it, like it. It's optimistic, though. And certainly, suitable with the vaccine news that has been coming out each of the last couple of weeks, which I think has given us all a bit of optimism. But so just turning to your questions. As you noted, we got our medicines approved NEXLETOL and NEXLIZET in February of this year. We also got them approved in the EU in March of this year. So we got 4 approvals in the course of about 30 days or so. That was also the time, February, March was also the time, of course, when COVID hit initially in the U.S. And so we found ourselves with a very challenging decision, whether to continue to move forward with the launch or not knew that it was going to present a whole set of new challenges. But ominously, I think like many of us just didn't know the degree or what the overall impact would be. Of course, as we look into Q2 -- we looked into Q2, physicians were telling us, yes, please make these medicines available. Some of the injectable non-statin therapies that were available were much harder to initiate therapy because of COVID. And again, remember, in Q2, there were state shutdowns across the U.S., which limited activity. And that was really the headwind that we were facing in Q2. And quite frankly, anybody that was trying to promote new medicines. I think -- we've gotten very good, I'd say, at analyzing the past as opposed to predicting the future. So I'm going to spend a little bit of time on just what have we learned from the first 7 months of our launch. And I think the best context that I can provide is that when you look at LDL cholesterol lowering prescriptions, when you look at the prescription volumes this year compared to last year, when you look at them from sort of April compared to January, February, March, what stands out is that for the first time in history, new prescriptions for LDL cholesterol lowering drugs were down 30%, whether you compare that to pre-COVID this year or whether you compare it to this same time last year, it was almost...
Michael Yee
analystOn this note, they're not prescribing that right now. And there's delays due to what's going on in COVID, why?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveExactly. So again, you see it in the volume of new prescriptions for LDL cholesterol lowering drugs. There was also a paper that we've been referencing recently in JAMA that look at claims data for Q2 and early Q3. And what the author's reported was that, as we all heard about and read about, there was certainly an increase in telemedicine visits. And I think there was a great expectation in April and even May, that telemedicine could serve as a good substitute for in-person visits. This was the time for telemedicine. And indeed, for some therapeutic areas, it proved to be really effective. Heard about mental health and some other therapeutic areas where it really lent itself to a physician and a patient engaging via video. But what we learned and what the author's reported on is, yes, there was this really significant increase in the use of telemedicine during Q2 and early Q3. But if you look at the claims data, and this is -- I'm paraphrasing what the auditor's said, blood pressure and cholesterol checks fell through the cracks. So what we learned is while there was this increase in telemedicine, and that there was certainly a lot of hope that, that would provide a substitute for in-person visits, physicians really didn't feel like they could check a patient's blood pressure. They didn't feel like they could check their cholesterol via telemedicine, even if you think about sending them to a Quest lab or an outside lab, that was -- it was just not done. So we see it in the overall prescription volumes for LDL cholesterol lowering drugs, we see it in some of the reports from telemedicine just not be an effective substitute for prescribing or checking cholesterol.
Michael Yee
analystThis is an important point, Tim, in the first few minutes here. Do you believe that Wall Street and investors, the financial community, it's not just Wall Street, is under appreciating the true opportunity and trajectory? Because the first 3 to 6 months are not good reflections of the demand because new prescriptions are slowing. People can't go to the office, they can't see their doctor out, I would have presumed you could get a script over telemedicine, maybe you can make a clarification about that. But the bottom line is, all of that is basically put on some pause during COVID. So when people go and they stay, they look at the scripts, by the way, they're up from 600 to 1,000 and 2,000 to last week 2,500, so congrats on that. That's not a good indication, and people are saying, oh, see the launch is slow. That's just not the case. You think that, that will pick up remarkably as we start to climb out of COVID. Is that the conclusion?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveAbsolutely. Because keep in mind, one of the statistics that we and others and the community have always talked about is that for every 10 patients on a statin, 2 of them, 1.5 to 2 of them are going to be a statin intolerant patient. They -- statins are great medicines. They have been great medicines for so many people, 80% to 85% of people who take a statin do extraordinarily well on them. But 1.5 to 2 patients who get on a statin can't tolerate it. And so if you're thinking about 30% down in terms of new prescription volume for statins, for LDL cholesterol lowering drugs overall, that puts a really significant damper on the launch of a new medicine like ours, which is a non-statin alternative to the drug.
Michael Yee
analystYes. Now I have seen that with some oral cancer drugs, Tim, even with some oral cancer drugs, they have cancer, too, we're even seeing this, too. But the takeaway then, point one here, the progress that you've made to date, are -- you think is hugely impacted by the dynamics of what's going on at the office and with COVID. I don't think that needs to be emphasized, beating a dead horse here, but therefore, the numbers that you're putting up are well under reflecting what you think could happen as we get into 2021. And therefore, with the stock where it's at, significantly again, under reflects what you think could happen. And therefore, if that's true, because people are -- you know how it is on Wall Street, they took it in early quarters, they go up, that's it. That's it.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveNo, right. I think, and again, we've been saying, you've been saying, there is no analog, right? There is no comparison that we can look back and say, oh, this launch is like fill in the blank because no one has ever launched in a pandemic before, right? So we have what a half a dozen cases of companies that have launched in the pandemic. We've heard of this big retrenchment, if you will, among sales forces in the industry that almost every company pulled back their sales force during Q2, started getting them out in Q3 again. But we've been on the leading edge of having our sales force in the field because I think one of the other things coming back to what have we learned over the last 6 or 7 months, one of the things that we learned is video detailing, digital detailing is not the same as promotion -- in-person promotion between a sales representative and a physician. It's just not as effective.
Michael Yee
analystOkay. Tim, look at this, I have the scripts in front of me. According to the scripts, you are in week 20 something right now.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveThat sounds right, yes.
Michael Yee
analystSomething like that. You have more total scripts last week than PCSK9 did in week 25.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveThat's right. No. And we launched during the pandemic. The other thing to keep in mind is that speaking of PCSK9s is that PCSK9 scripts are down 40% -- new scripts, sorry, new scripts, are down 40% as compared to pre-COVID. And again, that is also relatively underappreciated. So it's -- the overall cholesterol-lowering market, but then even the PCSK9s that have been around.
Michael Yee
analystThey have a stable base because you just get a refill. That's not hard.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveThat's right.
Michael Yee
analystAnd you are based on new scripts, that's what you got to get, new scripts.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveThat's right.
Michael Yee
analystThey are a flat base and trying to add new scripts, but they have a flat base. So let me ask you this, what do you think the trajectory looks like in the fourth quarter and the first quarter and the second quarter as we get to 2021? I think there'll still be COVID-19. So is it fair to say that it modestly increases every quarter, but you should continue to see improvements? If not, I don't want -- I'm not putting words in your mouth, acceleration but a slope should pick up both with release of COVID and people starting to return to their doctor's offices in January, but also because you've had a year to market the drug. So the combination of those 2 things should get you to really pick up the pace in millions of dollars every quarter. Do you think that's right?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveSo I'll ask Rick to comment, but I think one of the most interesting things about a medicine like ours is whenever a new prescription is written by a physician, that is, in essence, a mini annuity, right? I mean, in financial terms, it's a mini annuity. Not -- of course, not every patient refills, not every patient refills every month. I think on average, it's like 10 or 11, for a monthly prescription, it's like 10 or 11 a year because patients forget to refill their prescriptions. But on average, it's a mini annuity. And so we are building a foundation for, not only next year, but the years in the future as every new prescription becomes a mini annuity through this -- the magic of refills and the magic of -- the not so magic of compounding. So I think it's...
Michael Yee
analystOnce you got him on, he's a believer -- I believe it or at least write some scripts, he should be able to write 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 once you got him on, once you got him onboard.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveThat's right. And keep in mind that COVID, as you said, we fully expect is going to continue to be with us for some time, right? It is here. Great news on the vaccine front, we can now at least see the sun coming up over the horizon mid next year, maybe earlier, but certainly mid next year with broad vaccine distribution. And of course, with that happening, we do see patients returning to their physicians' offices. So medical distancing will start to dissipate patients. Again I don't know if you're old enough for this, but...
Michael Yee
analystNow, Tim, because even though there's a spike in COVID, so people are like unsure how to interpret that. Just because there's a spike per se in COVID cases, and I don't want to get in the nitty-gritty, but I'm sure the average age of those cases is younger in general. But the demographic of what we're looking at here, do you think that more patient volumes are up at the doctor's office, paid doctor visits are up in Q4 over Q3 over Q2, and that should -- that is getting better. It is improving.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveSo I think what we've seen, Mike, is that it has plateaued. So it did increase from Q2 to Q3. We saw some modest increase from Q3 into early Q4, but it's plateaued at roughly around 70% of pre-COVID patient volumes. And so -- and by the way, that's -- it's different for cardiologists than it is for primary care. So in both cases, the flow, the patient flow seems to be at around that 70% level. But for cardiologists, of course, it's cardiovascular health issues they're dealing with. It's the primary care doctors, which, again, you may remember us talking about for drugs like ours, oral, convenient once-daily medicines. Primary care doctors are going to be big prescribers of these medicines over time. And they represent about 70% of our HCP targets. And so they are still going to be dealing with COVID during the next couple of quarters.
Michael Yee
analystIf that's the thinking of the launch, Tim, is it the big cardiologists and thought leaders and those guys and the guys who are taking care of the guy who's had 2 heart attacks, all of that type of thing, aren't those, at least in the first year or 2 or 3, really sort of the early volumes?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveSo absolutely. But remember, there are primary care docs that write like cardiologists. They prescribe beta blockers, they prescribe Factor Xas, they prescribe, of course, LDL cholesterol lowering drugs. And those are the physicians that are also really high-prescribing physicians, but their practices have turned toward, obviously, treating patients who have COVID or COVID-related impacts. So the patient flow is there, but it's more diverse than cardiologists.
Michael Yee
analystThe dangerous thing is huge impact in the summers in Q2 and Q3 from COVID, it's improved a bit. It started to plateau a bit. Again, cases are going to that but you feel like as that gets towards the sun coming on the horizon, as you said, that, that should get better. And your point is in the first 10, 15 minutes of this conversation is that's a big impact, and you think it's under reflecting what you really should be doing, if it was not COVID. So what does that look like then, Rick, as we get into the fourth quarter and the first quarter and the second quarter, is it incremental? Just modest increases? You look at where consensus -- consensus came way down, which is probably good from an expectation standpoint, the numbers came way down. Do you think there's a point where people start going the other way on consensus, as we get into '21? Or how do we think about that trajectory? What walked to us say, you know what, we're doing better than people thought right now?
Richard Bartram
executiveYes. So Mike, I think a couple of ways to think about it. And while we're not providing revenue guidance next year, mainly around just the COVID uncertainty as we've all experienced. I think, generally, the way you mapped it out is a reasonable way to frame it out. When we look at our expectations and in our internal data and models, the next couple of months and quarters as we navigate through vaccine deployment, broad adoption, we'll have incremental steps. But I think the key piece to just focus on is we've got all the fundamentals in place for when the overall environment improves, and we get some of these roadblocks and headwinds that have been created by COVID to dissipate. We have the capital, we've got the infrastructure, we've got the fundamentals to strike and grow prescription growth pretty significantly.
Michael Yee
analystNow one of the big things that the market was different from your guys, and this was talked about is that you have consistently said, the capital and the cash last well into profitability or I don't remember the exact words you used recently. But 2 things. One is, you felt that the revenue numbers continually have been above where you thought The Street was in 2021. The expenses may be another lever. But you also did show up the balance sheet. So maybe just talk about, again, your confidence that this should continue to ramp very nicely through 2021. Perhaps at least as good as where consensus is. You know the trajectory, you feel good about that, too, that are the expenses, as you go down the P&L with the expenses, you probably have some leverage there versus where people are at. I don't know where that may come in from. And three, you're adding more cash anyways, a lot more cash, yes.
Richard Bartram
executiveYes. So Mike, I think all that is spot on. As we sort of think about where we're at, especially with the capital, so I think just the fundamental piece, given where we're at, as I mentioned, we're not going to provide revenue guidance, but it's obviously a fundamental factor of cash runway. We talked about -- our view is optimistic, and it gives us really confidence in the long-term cash runway. And then when we factor in the proceeds from the offering last week, coupled with, as you mentioned, scrutinized cost management, we estimate that the current funds as well as the proceeds from the offering, extends our cash runway well beyond the subsequent approval of the CLEAR Outcomes trial as well as those significant payments that we have from our collaboration partners, which I'll remind everyone is up to $350 million upon the successful completion.
Michael Yee
analystLet me repeat that's very important. So with the recent convertible, this was not equity dilutive, convertible, you believe that, that takes you well into or past the CLEAR Outcomes data, which remind me is second half '22?
Richard Bartram
executiveYes. The endpoint accumulation is second half of '22, subsequent approval, '23.
Michael Yee
analystRight. That takes you all into that, plus there is a massive milestone upon label expansion. I believe it's $200 million or something like that. It's a pretty big one.
Richard Bartram
executiveUp to $300 million in Europe and up to $50 million in Japan.
Michael Yee
analystThat's a big one. I mean, Tim, I mean, that's a huge one. You understand. I mean, as you get to that Outcomes thing that money essentially pays all of that back and is a complete big life-saving visibility on cash flow to get $300 million.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveAnd remember, too, we've already accumulated in Q3. We already accumulated 50% of events. It's an event-driven study. But we've already accumulated over 50% of events.
Michael Yee
analystIs that in line with the general expectation? So it's not tracking ahead.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveSo a little -- yes, a little ahead of what our projections were. But yes, going in the right direction, for sure.
Michael Yee
analystOkay. And so therefore, the combination of confidence in the revenue trajectory, OpEx, there's a little bit of leverage and the recent 250 convert, right, that was upsized, right?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveRight.
Michael Yee
analystAnd then and then the stock trading up. And then the visibility takes you to CLEAR Outcomes data, plus there's a milestone of $300 million -- up to $300 million plus if you get that label expansion. And you still feel comfortable with the Oberland situation in 2021 as well as a tack on $50 million.
Richard Bartram
executiveYes, yes. Yes, we believe that we'll be able to access that capital if we choose to. Again, it's at our option upon the achievement of worldwide sales milestones. So that as well as what we have currently on the balance sheet with the offering, we have substantial cash on the balance sheet, really poised for success when the overall...
Michael Yee
analystI agree that the $50 million from Oberland, and I've got a lot of discussion, the $50 million from Oberland, just want to make it really quick, it's not a big number in the big swing of things. But that -- do you know that consensus doesn't actually have the revenue trajectory to hit that milestone of $100 million by the end of 2021?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveYes. Yes. Yes.
Michael Yee
analystSo the fact that you guys are saying you feel very comfortable about that, I just want to make sure, Tim, you've got to hit $100 million within 6 months of worldwide sales, can Esperion actually have that?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveYes, yes.
Richard Bartram
executiveYes. And just to add to that, Mike, I think that's one piece that is underappreciated is the fact that our partner, Daiichi Sankyo, launched in Europe 2 weeks ago. They have started in Germany. They're going to have a consistent rollout in countries. And what that organization has been able to do with LIXIANA has been extremely impressive, and we have utmost confidence that...
Michael Yee
analystCan you also clarify something because someone brought up another good point. When that deal was done, that was pre-COVID. I don't think it's fair to say that. And I wish we all think we could renegotiate everything. But the fact is, is that when the deal was struck and these milestones and things were set, the bar was set before COVID, I think there was a lot more confidence around hitting the $100 million and hitting the milestone pre-COVID. But if you go back and say, well, guys, look, everything is on track, things are good, it was not my fault that COVID happened and probably compressed our revenues by 20%, 30%, 40%. Is there an ability to renegotiate that? And I mean, they are partners in this whole thing. Just to be fair, it's not -- it's a partnership.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveYes. Yes. Rick?
Richard Bartram
executiveYes. No, I would say that's fundamentally how we are as an organization. We look for partnerships not for transactional relationships and the relationships that we have with all of our partners, whether they're commercial partners or financial partners has been a partnership. So again, we have confidence if we choose to access that, we'll be able to.
Michael Yee
analystSo that makes sense, right? So I don't want to hold everyone to hard and fast of the $100 million rule, who knows what can happen. It's not Uncle Sam collecting on something. It is -- or paying out something, right? It's a partnership. That takes me to the other question, too, which I think is a good one for Tim, which is you guys together are looking at OUS partnerships for additional sources of capital where you go market in Asia and these other places. But do you believe at some point that any of these types of things could be struck as a bigger type of strategic optionality. I mean, you think about the challenges of a small biotech, Tim, when you're trying to launch a primary care type drug with a large global U.S., at least, infrastructure on a drug that's going to take time. That is inherently challenging, which is why a lot of companies do either sell the company, but do a pharma partnership because the pharma partnership helps you out during those periods when we're not trying to sell an orphan drug here, right, with 20 sales people. So how has that played into things? The idea, look, we'll manage through that because we're -- we just got capital. So don't worry about that. We'll be fine. Or as we go through 2021, you'd be interested in anything on the table because we acknowledge that COVID has impacted things. And it could go on longer, and we would be open to a willing hand from pharma.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveYes. So I think the way to think about it is that, I think, as you noted, for us to achieve -- for our medicines to achieve their potential, they are going to need broad distribution. Stepping back here in the U.S., just like they're getting broad distribution through Daiichi Sankyo in Europe. Stepping back though, when you look at the global opportunity for the bempedoic acid franchise, we've been pretty consistent in saying 70% of the value, the total global value is in the U.S. It's the U.S. opportunity. And we have kept U.S. rights through all of the deals that were done. We are on track to get what we call a rest of world, non-U.S., non-EU, non-Japan deal done by the end of the year. So that remains on track. But certainly, as we enter 2021, we will be looking at the buy versus build for the U.S. because we absolutely want to get our medicines in the hands of as many physicians. There are literally tens of thousands of physicians that will ultimately prescribe our medicines. And so we will definitely be talking to potential partners about co-promotes or other even more strategic opportunities in the U.S. But I think that is going to naturally follow these -- the rest of world discussions that we have ongoing.
Michael Yee
analystThat's what I think about. Sometimes it's that pharma doesn't yet no believe or is not fully convinced and maybe wants to see you do it first. And then once you demonstrate that indeed that's there and maybe their ball and their eye is focused on oncology, because pretty much it's all oncology these days. But once they see that and you've demonstrated that, then they can easily pick up the slack and bring it to the next level because I'm not aware of any small biotech that has fully maximized potential of a drug in the United States because it just makes sense that someone else with the infrastructure and execution ability to be able to do that. So do you think that, that is the right situation at the right point, and you will -- you are open to looking at all of that stuff as we go to?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveYes. Absolutely, absolutely.
Michael Yee
analystOkay. One last question, I guess, in the last minute. Europe, just make a comment on that really quickly, too, because Rick did made a comment, but it's starting in Japan and then going out and take some time there, but is this just a reimbursement thing which you got to keep track on reimbursement as you get country by country.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveYes. So I think one of the reasons just going back that we chose Daiichi Sankyo in Europe to be a partner is, if you remember, they've got this 1,000-person commercial organization in Europe. And that includes reimbursement, market access, et cetera. And they are experts. They just went through this with LIXIANA over the last 5 years, gaining reimbursement. And keep in mind that in a country like Germany, there are actually 3 levels of approval required. There's the national level, there's the state or canton level, and then there's the local hospital system level. And Daiichi Sankyo has proven to be incredibly good at navigating those different levels. So we have, as Rick said, tremendous confidence in their ability to roll our medicines out in waves across Europe as they achieve country-by-country reimbursement.
Michael Yee
analystCan you comment on the German price or the ballpark price in Europe you expect to get or have set versus U.S. pricing?
Timothy Mayleben
executiveYes. No. So we've said, first of all, Daiichi Sankyo was responsible for setting price. They make pricing decisions in Europe. But having said that, I think they've guided and we've provided similar guidance that we expect pricing in Europe to be about 1/3 of what it is here in the U.S. on a list price basis, of course, not the same issues, not the same system that we have here with rebating and discounting as they do in Europe.
Michael Yee
analystOne word of advice. The reason why that's interesting and I'd better be listening to more of my Daiichi conference call from Japan Time. But there's other cardiovascular drugs that are trying to go out there and market in Europe, too, and that hasn't launched yet as well or may get through ease. And so on Europe, you think the pricing is about 1/3 of the price.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveExactly.
Michael Yee
analystOkay. Tim, great to see you guys. We look great. We will catch up with you towards the end of the year. Thank you for the update, and good luck with the rest of the meetings today.
Timothy Mayleben
executiveGreat seeing you again. Mike, thanks again for hosting.
Michael Yee
analystThanks, guys. Take care.
Richard Bartram
executiveTake care, bye-bye.
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