ettain Group, LLC (MAN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 24, 2021

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Professional Services m_and_a 31 min

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Operator

operator
#1

Welcome to ManpowerGroup's Special Investor Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] This call will be recorded. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. And now I will turn the call over to ManpowerGroup Chairman and CEO, Jonas Prising. You may now begin.

Jonas Prising

executive
#2

Welcome to the Special ManpowerGroup Conference Call regarding the acquisition of ettain Group. Thank you to everyone for joining us on such short notice. Our Chief Financial Officer, Jack McGinnis; and our President for North America, Becky Frankiewicz, are on the call with me today. For your convenience, we have included our prepared remarks within the Investor Relations section of our website at manpowergroup.com. Before we proceed, Jack will now cover the safe harbor language and a related topic.

John McGinnis

executive
#3

Good morning, everyone. This conference call contains statements including, without limitation, statements regarding anticipated timing, completion and results of the proposed transaction, the expected tax treatment of the transaction and the intended sources of funds for the transaction that are forward-looking in nature. And accordingly, are subject to risks and uncertainties. These statements are based on management's current expectations or beliefs. Actual results might differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. We assume no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Slide 2 of our presentation further identifies forward-looking statements made in this call and factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those described or contemplated in this call. This call is devoted solely to the announcement of the ettain Group acquisition, and we will not be providing a performance update on our ManpowerGroup operations during the third quarter.

Jonas Prising

executive
#4

We are very pleased to announce our acquisition of ettain Group, one of the largest privately held IT resourcing and services providers in North America. This acquisition will increase our depth of IT capabilities and expand our reach across more industry verticals. ettain is exclusively providing IT resourcing and services, and generate high margins based on this specialization. And as such, is a great fit for our Experis strategy. You've heard me discuss our DDI Strategy. So Diversification, Digitization and Innovation in previous investor calls. Today is an example of our diversification strategy and the acceleration of the evolution of our business mix with this acquisition. This acquisition directly aligns with our long-standing strategy to advance our business mix to include a higher proportion of IT resourcing and services. When combined, our Experis mix will represent 1/4 of our consolidated gross profit, and Experis and talent solutions combined will move to almost 40% of ManpowerGroup gross profit. You've also heard me talk about Experis' specialization in IT. In recent years, we have continued to prioritize IT and this acquisition will now bring our pro forma consolidated global Experis revenues estimated for 2021 to $4.5 billion, and will represent 25% of our gross profit mix with about 85% focused on IT. We continue to believe specialization in IT will enhance shareholder value as the global market for IT services is the single biggest skill specialization in our industry. And post-pandemic, we expect it to continue growing. We've seen demand rebound quickly during the pandemic, and we believe that the value of these services has increased from a client perspective and need. Our superior global footprint gives us a competitive advantage as we can deliver IT resourcing and services to our national and multinational clients in the various geographies where they conduct business. Next, in terms of segment profile, ettain has significant presence in financial services and health care IT. This is important as we view these segments as high-growth segments. This is also important as our Experis business in North America, although very strong in the technology and communications sectors, does not have as much depth in the health care and financial services sectors. You've heard us talk about our mix of clients as enterprise and convenience. ettain's business is primarily convenience clients, which typically results in more attractive margins and lower demand volatility when compared to large enterprise clients. This also makes ettain a great fit for us as we can leverage their platform for our convenience clients and there is minimal geographical or client overlap. Becky and her team have spent a great deal of time with the ettain management team, and I'll turn it over to her to provide some additional comments regarding the strength of this combination.

Becky Frankiewicz

executive
#5

Thank you, Jonas. First, I would like to say to the ettain team that may be listening to the call this morning that I am delighted that you will be joining our Experis team. It has been a privilege to get to know ettain leadership, and we are excited to add them to our North American team. I have been extremely impressed by their management practices, client solutions and their ability to deliver higher-end IT services to the market. Our Experis business delivers into 5 main practice areas, and the addition of ettain will enhance our ability to deliver higher-end services to new and existing clients. I'm very excited about the opportunity to leverage the best of our and ettain's suite of workforce solutions following completion of this acquisition. The last point I would like to make is about culture. We know that this business is all about people, and it is critical that there is a good cultural fit among organizations to ensure success. I'm confident the cultures of our organizations align very well, and this will provide a great foundation for ongoing development for our employees and consultants as we take this business forward.

Jonas Prising

executive
#6

We summarized the profile of the combined global Experis business. You can see that this acquisition would move our North American Experis business from 27% of total global Experis today on a trailing 12-month basis to 39% on a pro forma basis estimated for 2021. This is important as the U.S. represents the biggest professional services market in the world. ettain will be integrated into the Experis brand. And with the additional capabilities they bring to the business, this will result in an ongoing strengthening of the Experis brand in the region. As Becky referenced, we look forward to welcoming the talented ettain leadership team to our North American Experis team. I'll turn it over to Jack to talk about the financial aspects of the acquisition.

John McGinnis

executive
#7

We will fund this acquisition primarily with available cash on hand. As you've heard me say many times, our consistent capital allocation strategy prioritizes using available cash after the dividend to deploy towards strategic acquisitions when we identify attractive targets that meet our financial and operating criteria. We have built up a significant amount of cash during the pandemic, and we are pleased to be able to immediately put this cash to work with this acquisition. We will utilize our revolving credit facility for approximately $150 million of the purchase price, and our intent is to pay this down over the following 12 months. During this period, we expect to continue share repurchases to cover dilution, and we would recommence a more significant share repurchases plan after the revolver is paid down. Another very important aspect of this acquisition is the anticipated sizable tax savings. On a tax basis, this acquisition is primarily an asset purchase, which will result in a tax step-up in basis that is tax deductible in future years. Because of the significant step-up in tax basis, we expect an annual tax savings of about $9 million annually for 15 years. This represents a current net present value of $65 million. Reducing the purchase price by the value of this tax benefit, the underlying EBITDA multiple paid for ettain represents about 11.5x. Wrapping up the financial aspects of this acquisition. We expect it will be immediately accretive to earnings per share after excluding onetime deal costs and integration. We expect cost synergies of about $10 million annually, commencing at the conclusion of our integration activities at the end of 2022. We estimate transaction costs to be approximately $50 million and integration costs to approximate $20 million during the 12 months following the purchase. Subject to closing conditions and regulatory approvals, this transaction could close as early as late September 2021. We'll turn it back to Jonas.

Jonas Prising

executive
#8

In summary, this acquisition has strong strategic, operational and financial benefits and accelerates our business mix diversification. We're excited about our continued progress and differentiating Experis as a global leader, specializing in IT resourcing and services. This acquisition increases our presence in North America and improves our geo mix for Experis, and we will benefit from high growth and higher-margin opportunities. I would now like to open the call for Q&A. Operator?

Operator

operator
#9

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Manav Patnaik from Barclays.

Manav Patnaik

analyst
#10

The deal makes a lot of sense for financial [indiscernible]. To be honest, I was just wondering like if you have not done a lot of M&As and loan of this size. So has something changed in the strategy? Should we expect a little bit more aggression on your part? I'm just hoping for some color around that.

Jonas Prising

executive
#11

Manav. Yes, and thanks. We could hear you slightly faintly, but I think you asked whether anything has changed in our strategy. And I would say absolutely nothing has changed in our strategy. As Jack mentioned in our prepared remarks, we've been very clear around our allocation of capital and the areas where we would allocate capital. And we're very pleased to have been able to identify a terrific company like ettain that does a lot of things for us strategically, in the right market with the right mix of IT services and resourcing capabilities, with a minimal client segment overlap or geographic overlap, which we're also very excited about. So highly complimentary to our existing Experis North America business. It also significantly moves our share -- market share in the North American market up. And as Becky said, we feel really good about the culture of the company. And as you know from our past discussions and earnings call comments, this is a really important aspect. But I would say our strategy overall has not changed. We are very excited by our opportunities to grow the Experis business and all aspects of our business organically. But when we have the opportunity to allocate capital to a terrific company like ettain, we feel it's a great investment that we want to make as it moves us forward in so many areas.

Manav Patnaik

analyst
#12

Got it. And if I could just -- maybe you can refresh us on what a convenience client base is.

Jonas Prising

executive
#13

Sorry, Manav, could you repeat that question, please?

Manav Patnaik

analyst
#14

Yes. Just curious the difference between enterprise and convenience. Maybe if you can just remind us what the difference in those clients there is.

Jonas Prising

executive
#15

Sure. Right. Yes. So as you know, we describe enterprise as large corporations that are national, international multinational, multi-geo clients that we work with. And convenience clients are smaller clients, very important clients for us that is a very good segment, and you've seen us make some great progress on convenience clients, for instance, in Experis over the last 18 months, in particular, because they tend to come with higher margins and less volatility than larger enterprise clients, which are more volume-based. So it's our client segmentation between large, complex client engagements and convenience clients, which are smaller but very valuable to us. So that's our client segmentation vocabulary.

Operator

operator
#16

Our next question comes from Mark Marcon from Baird.

Mark Marcon

analyst
#17

Congratulations. I was wondering if you could give us a few more details with regards to ettain. Specifically, what's their growth rate been over the last couple of years? Where are the bill rates? And how should we think about the integration strategy? Will you integrate them right away? Or will you take a little bit slower? How should we think about that?

Jonas Prising

executive
#18

That's a bunch of different questions. So I'll let -- I'll start by letting Jack go on the growth and the profile a little bit from a financial perspective of ettain, and then I'll ask Becky to comment a bit around our integration plans and how we intend to run the business in the North America region.

John McGinnis

executive
#19

So Mark, on growth, I would say there are segments of the company that have a very nice growth history. If you look at components, we referenced the health care IT, which is a big part of the business. So pre-pandemic, nice growth in those segments and in the other segments as well. During the pandemic, as you would expect in the health care space, there was a reduction in demand. So 2020 is a unique year and probably not representative on a go-forward basis. But looking forward to 2021, to date, very nice growth in the health care IT space. So we feel very good about the growth opportunity here of the ettain Group and based on the history they've demonstrated in the different segments of the business. I think on the integration, maybe I'll start and Becky can talk a little bit about that. So as I mentioned, we gave detail about the integration cost that we expect I think we expect a big chunk of those costs are going to be allocated to IT and moving ettain into our IT infrastructure. And when we look at the remaining piece, there's going to be other back-office-related costs related to the integration. So that will be different steams as well. So I would say, when we look at this opportunity, as you can see from the margins, it's already a very efficient platform. So they're a leader in margin already from an EBITDA perspective. So this is not a big cost takeout play. This is really about making sure we set this up for growth appropriately. And that's what our integration efforts are going to be focused on. And I'll let Becky say a few words about that.

Becky Frankiewicz

executive
#20

Yes, I'll just add that our clear focus is on a careful and successful integration, which really has 2 parts for us. As mentioned, we're a people business. And so making sure we welcome, take care of the people, both at the headquarter location as well as in the field is a priority for us. And second is focused on combining the convenience platform so we can accelerate our mutual growth. So that's our priority.

Mark Marcon

analyst
#21

Will you maintain the ettain brand? Or will they just immediately come under Experis?

Becky Frankiewicz

executive
#22

So Experis is our global brand for ManpowerGroup. So the business will fall under the Experis brand globally aligned with our strategy.

Operator

operator
#23

Our next question comes from Tobey Sommer from Truist Securities.

Jasper Bibb

analyst
#24

This is Jasper Bibb on for Tobey. With respect to potential revenue synergies, when you do integrate ettain, do you see any opportunity for improved productivity as their recruiters get access to some of your technology tools and enterprise client relationships?

John McGinnis

executive
#25

Yes. Jasper, I would say from a revenue perspective, I think as we referenced in our prepared remarks, that there's great opportunity for revenue synergies. When we look at our workforce solutions and our great talent solutions offerings and being able to provide those into the ettain client base, that's a great opportunity for us. And likewise, as we've heard Becky and Jonas talk about the areas where ettain is very strong is highly complementary to us in terms of our practice areas. So we can actually sell those services into our existing Experis client -- convenience clients as well. So we're very optimistic about that going forward. I think from a productivity perspective, as I mentioned earlier, already, they are very efficient. They have a very efficient platform. We think the combination will help our efficiency on an overall basis when we combine the convenience businesses together. And we've heard us talk about PowerSuite previously. Our U.S. Experis business is on our leading PowerSuite front office application. We'll be -- we're very familiar with ettain's IT infrastructure, and we'll be combining them onto our platform over time as well. And I think that will add for ongoing efficiencies, recruiter efficiencies. We're already seeing the impact of the recruiter efficiencies from our PowerSuite deployment. And we would expect, as we combine these platforms that, that will continue.

Jasper Bibb

analyst
#26

That makes sense. And then you mentioned ettain's exposure to the health care IT space. Can you just give a bit more detail on where you see opportunity in that market? And what are kind of the main customer groups for ettain there? Is it payers, hospitals, life sciences? Any color on mix would be great.

Becky Frankiewicz

executive
#27

Yes. So it's primarily hospital systems. We see tremendous opportunity in that space. It slowed down a bit during the pandemic, but now coming out of the crisis, it's accelerating. Hospital systems are replacing their technology and so lots of potential for growth there. We also see great complementary status for the industry and financial services. Our Experis business is really developed in technology and communications. But ettain's business is really developed in financial services, again, in health care, which is hugely complementary to the business. So excited to bring both parts together as we go to market to serve our clients.

Operator

operator
#28

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Hamzah Mazari from Jefferies.

Mario Cortellacci

analyst
#29

This is Mario Cortellacci filling in for Hamzah. Could you just frame for us the length of assignments in this business versus Experis? And also, could you just comment on the competitive dynamic in the business and if it's similar to the Experis platform?

Becky Frankiewicz

executive
#30

Yes. From length of assignment for the financial services business, it's pretty comparable. The hospital and health care systems work a little differently. They have something called go-lives for their big ramp-ups to make sure their system transitions. So those tend to be a huge ramp up, and then they have a tendency to be a bit longer on time line. And so that's a bit different. In terms of competitively, we faced up to some of the same competitors, but some different competitors based on the industry. They are a specialist in the health care sector that we don't see in our Experis business that, of course, ettain is facing up to today. So we're excited about that increased exposure and the ability to go to market differently.

Jonas Prising

executive
#31

And I would just add one other point. We did reference that they do have some good public sector experience, so government and state-related work. And those are long tenure deals, which is great. So multiyear contracts, which works very well. And so we bring that as part of the combination as well.

Mario Cortellacci

analyst
#32

Got it. And then just my follow-up. And obviously, I hate to focus on the future while you obviously had this deal and working on integration here. But maybe you can just talk about how this deal fits into you achieving your long-term margin targets. And then, I guess, does this signal more M&A for you to come? And then also post this deal, like what does your pipeline look like today?

John McGinnis

executive
#33

Okay. So Mario, I guess maybe first on the margin. So our standing EBITDA margin target is 4.5% to 5%. And I think as we've said on that in the past, we do not need acquisitions to reach those financial targets, but acquisitions could help us accelerate the path towards that. And that will happen as a result of this combination. So based on the margin profile of ettain, that will increase our overall margins roughly about 20 to 25 basis points on both an EBITDA margin as well as a GP margin. So that will be helpful going forward. I think in terms of your question on overall M&A, I think as Jonas mentioned earlier, really our strategy has not changed. I think we've been very open that professional services and primarily IT as part of professional services are an area of focus for us. That's why this acquisition came into play for us, and we think it's a great opportunity. And first things first, we're going to be very focused on integrating this great company into ours. And we'll continue to follow our capital allocation strategy going forward. So that's really what I'd say at this stage. I think as I mentioned, we do expect -- what's really great about this is, from a shareholder perspective, we are deploying all of our available cash into this deal, putting it immediately to work. We're taking on a very modest level of incremental debt through the revolver, which we plan to pay down in relatively short order. And after we do that, we would expect to continue to deploy our share repurchase program as we've done in the past as well. So I'd say that those are really the main considerations, I'd say, from a capital allocation perspective.

Operator

operator
#34

Our next question comes from Gary Bisbee from the Bank of America Securities.

Gary Bisbee

analyst
#35

First question, I wonder if you could just be a little clear on exactly what the business does. So IT resourcing and services provider, it's just not clear to me exactly what you mean. Is this largely a traditional temp-based hourly IT staffing business? Is there a big perm component? Or is there also more of a consulting component where you're taking longer-term projects, having bench risk with full-time consultants? Just what exactly do they do, please?

Becky Frankiewicz

executive
#36

Sure. So first, they do have a staffing business that we call resourcing business similar to our Experis business, again, operating in different areas than we operate in. They have a very large services business, which does get more into the statement of work consulting type engagement taking on full projects for company. So that is a bit of a difference. And you mentioned a bench. Neither Experis nor ettain operate a bench. And so we're consistent in our operating model that neither us operate a bench, but they do have much more exposure to services than we do in Experis.

Gary Bisbee

analyst
#37

Can you give us that revenue mix?

John McGinnis

executive
#38

In terms of perm, I think you asked about perm, Gary. So perm is relatively modest. I think perm is about 2% of the revenues as a percentage of GP, which is the way we like to talk about perm. It's about 7% to 8%. And I'd say on the resourcing versus services, I'd say primarily resourcing or staffing traditionally as it's referred to. But resourcing, I think, is somewhere about maybe 20% to 25% of the business as well, which is very good.

Gary Bisbee

analyst
#39

Okay. Great. And then is there any risk in not maintaining their brand? I guess, really a 2-part question. First, that, do you see any risk to the business? And second, Experis has trailed the growth of many other professional staffers for a long time. And you don't have to get into the reasons because I know you've discussed all the strategies you've been pursuing in recent years to improve the relative performance -- growth performance. But is -- how do you think about the Experis brand in the market today? And is anything lost by not maintaining the independent branding and sort of operations of this business?

Jonas Prising

executive
#40

Thanks, Gary. I would say we are really pleased with how strong the Experis brand has become both here in the U.S. and North America and frankly, globally. This is a $4.5 billion business branded under one brand name and specialized in IT resourcing and services. And we think in a very complex environment to have one strong brand, one strong global brand that clearly represents 5 practice areas that we bring to market across 40-plus markets around the world, is a tremendous strength that we can leverage with our client base. And as it relates to the performance of Experis since you brought it up here in North America, we're very pleased with some of the foundations that we laid in terms of turning the business around and seeing some good traction. And as you heard us talk about in our second quarter earnings call, we feel that we performed very well in the second quarter and expect to do so again in the third quarter. So we have a strong business in North America with a very strong brand. And I would like to ask Becky to comment a bit around the integration from a branding perspective.

Becky Frankiewicz

executive
#41

Yes. So first, from a branding perspective, we've been very thoughtful about go forward with the Experis brand. And as Jonas mentioned, strategically, our global brand is Experis. And now with the addition of ettain, it gives us even additional scale. And in terms of the U.S. or the North America Experis business, for the past 2 years, we've really been focused on building operational discipline. We brought in new leadership. As Jonas mentioned, we had a strong Q2, positive outlook on Q3. We have much more to get done. Yet we're feeling good about the foundation of the business and of course, very positive about the addition of the ettain business to the organization.

Gary Bisbee

analyst
#42

If I could just sneak in one more quick one. What was the pro forma pre-pandemic revenue? I know you said it was down last year and presumably rebounding now. But was it close to the $724 million? Or was it a much higher number?

John McGinnis

executive
#43

So Gary, it was close to the current number. I think, through the year-to-date, it's pretty consistent with the level in the prior year.

Operator

operator
#44

Thank you. At this time, there are no questions. Speakers, you may continue.

Jonas Prising

executive
#45

Perfect. All right. Thank you very much, everyone, for calling in for the special investor call. We look forward to speaking with you soon again. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#46

And that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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