European Wax Center, Inc. (EWCZ) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
March 13, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Lorraine Maikis
analystThanks, everybody, for joining us. We're happy to have the management team of European Wax here for a fireside chat. We'll go through some questions and then see if there's any audience questions when were finished.
Lorraine Maikis
analystBut I guess I wanted to kick off -- thank you both for being here. And I wanted to kick off by just talking about some of -- like maybe sizing the market. Talk about your market share, how big it is and where you see the areas of opportunity for that.
David Willis
executiveYes. Thanks, Lorraine, for having us. So we operate in a really highly fragmented market. Our best intel would suggest that the out-of-home hair removal market in the United States is about $18 billion. So when you think of our 2023 system-wide sales, about $955 million, we've got a lot of market share opportunity to go. In terms of the out-of-home waxing part of the market, the realized part of that market is probably around $6 billion, and that is growing about 8% to 9% per annum as compared to the overall market that's growing about 2% to 3%. So we think we're well positioned within the part of the market that has very attractive growth rates. We've got a lot of white space. While we're the most significant leader in our space by a pretty wide margin, we think there's a ton of white space for us to grow over the next several years, Lorraine.
Lorraine Maikis
analystGreat. And then what are the most popular services and price points? Maybe it would help to set the stage in terms of how big of a spend is this for your average customer?
David Willis
executiveYes. So our average ticket is right around $60. Most of our tickets have about -- tend to average about 1.5 services per visit. So our services start off around $12 to $14 for the facial services and then work their way up to kind of $70 to $80 for some of the larger body part services. In terms of overall mix, we've been pretty consistent, 80% to 85% of our service mix has been body services. Those are a bit more expensive services, Lorraine, and the balance of that has been on facial services. One of the needle movers for us is our services per ticket. So we have a number of strategies in place working with our franchise owners to really try to drive services per ticket. We want to optimize revenue per wax suite hour. That second and third service that a guest may add during their visit has incredibly accretive gross margin flow-through for our franchise owners.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd your core customer base has been really resilient. I think that's been surprising to a lot of people. We always hear the perception of this as, it's a treat, it's spa service. It's -- I think what you've seen proven out over the past several years is it's more of a need-based or that's how your consumer considers it. So maybe talk about your core customer, who she is and how -- why you think she's been so stable for the past several years.
David Willis
executiveSure. So our core customer, we consider our core customer to be our Wax Pass guests and our routine guests. To your point, this is -- they really view waxing as a nondiscretionary part of their personal care regimen. They've shown incredible resiliency over the last several quarters. They visit 7.5 to 8 times a year, and they've maintained that visit frequency and their annual spend kind of regardless of what's going on in the macro. So for our franchise owners, it's a very predictable, reliable revenue stream. These core guests -- if I look at our overall system-wide sales, these core guests makes up over 75% of our system-wide sales. So it's been a very dependable guest for our franchise system and one that's been very predictable over the last several years.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd then how does this compare to the more infrequent episodic guests? Maybe just walk us through visit spend in '22, '23, '24, how that's evolved.
David Willis
executiveYes. So our episodic guest has been probably a bit more impacted by the macro environment. When we refer to the episodic guests, these includes new guests to the brand in those what we would call event-driven waxers. So unlike our core guests, Lorraine, that really view waxing as a nondiscretionary part of their regimen, this is the part of our guest file that views waxing somewhat as a treat. So they will tend to wax before a spring break trip or before a summer vacation or before a holiday party. This part of our guest file visits about 3 times a year, so not near the same frequency that our core guest visits. And they spend less than half of what our core guests spend. So we see real opportunity within this part of the file to attract more new guests to the brand and try to get them converted to a Wax Pass where we can see them on a much more predictable basis than the episodic guests.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd maybe talk through some of the strategies. What are you working on to try to attract those customers?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveI mean in many cases, it's really all about the data. So the brand invested a few years ago prior to my joining in a quite sophisticated enterprise data warehouse. And now we're really able to realize more of the fruits of that, especially as we evolve our marketing technology stack, and we're able to pull insights out of that and refine the ways in which we reach out to guests. So certainly, it's still e-mail, but now it's also SMS, app push notifications, direct mail and other tactics. And when you think about where it starts with new guests, that's obviously more of your awareness building, your introducing the brand, making sure that they're understanding our value propositions around speed and efficiency and cleanliness and expertise, hygiene, all of these things and then making sure that from that point on, especially after a first visit, we are being very, very clear in all of our messaging flows about what Wax Pass is, the value of a routine waxing regimen, why Wax Pass itself is really valuable from a financial standpoint, a savings standpoint and explaining that story to them.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd you said Wax Pass, we haven't touched on that yet. So maybe you could just talk about what is Wax Pass? What is it? How do you sell it? I think it's a really important part of the recurring nature of the business model.
David Willis
executiveIt really is. It's -- the Wax Pass, it's almost like a membership [ light ] program. It's an economic bundle that we make available to our guests. So a guest can purchase 11 or 12 wax services for the price of 9. So we call it 9 plus 2 or 9 plus 3. What we found is if a guest is new to waxing, the first visit is really about education. And as Andrea had mentioned, that second and that third visit, it's just a better service. The hair grows back finer. It's a more comfortable service that second or third visit. So all of the scripts that we use within our centers are really designed to educate new guests to the benefits of waxing, what to expect on that second or third visit, and it's really that third visit that is your best sales point to get the guest hooked on a Wax Pass. And we found that once a guest will make that financial commitment to the brand, it does a couple of things. It provides the franchise owners great visibility into future visits, and that guest then tends to use it. We see very little breakage in the Wax Pass. So most guests that purchase a Wax Pass tend to actually consume them and ultimately repeat purchase.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd so what percentage of the business is done using a Wax Pass?
David Willis
executiveBetween the Wax Pass, it's just over 65% of our business. When I include our routine guests, that we consider those our core guests, that then gets you over 75% of the business.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd then I think it serves as a really good indicator for the future of the business. Can you talk about how it helps you predict?
David Willis
executiveIt really does, when you think about -- so, within our 4 walls, labor is the single largest cost item. So giving franchisees visibility into future visits allows them to really optimize the scheduling of their wax specialists. So when a guest makes that commitment to the brand, it really allows our franchise owners and center managers to schedule with more efficiency. Those franchisees that are managing their books, managing the schedule the most efficiently tend to make the most money.
Lorraine Maikis
analystYou recently tested out a 3 plus 1 Wax Pass, which is different than what you described earlier. I think this was to attract and retain new guests. Do you plan to roll this out across the network? And maybe just elaborate more on the test and how it impacted the customer acquisition.
Andrea Wasserman
executiveWe are rolling that out. We're in the process of finalizing that right now. It will go network-wide this spring. It is really -- it's exciting for us. It's really meant to create a sense of urgency at a guest's first visit. As David said, the first visit is really that introduction. And -- but we do think there's an opportunity there for a guest to commit a little bit upfront. The feedback we were getting, though, is that the Wax Pass is intriguing, but I've been here once and I'm not quite ready to commit to a 9 plus 2, a 9 plus 3. And so this is a way to say we want to recognize that you're here and that you're interested in continuing to wax with us. Here's an option that feels a little bit more digestible, accessible for you, and that's the 3 plus 1. So throughout last fall, the way that we got there is that we had this kind of hypothesis that something could move the needle with these new guests and tested a number of different options. This one clearly rose to the top of the heap in terms of conversion at that first visit. So we're excited about that.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd then what are the implications of that from a sales predictability or margin standpoint versus the traditional Wax Pass?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveWell, there's upside there because the conversion, at least based on the test that we ran, which was done in quite a scientific way, the conversion there will be so much stronger than what we had previously been seeing from a bigger Wax Pass at that first visit. And so we think there's incremental opportunity there. Obviously, still early innings on it. It was only a test, and so now we'll see with the rollout, obviously, we do need to get our in-center teams on board with communicating it and selling it and seeing the value in it. But certainly, we think that there is upside there or we wouldn't be as excited about it.
Lorraine Maikis
analystOkay. Is there a limit on the redemption period for the smaller ones?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveOur wax passes don't expire. We're always looking at everything we do. But certainly Wax Pass as well, and how we might want to evolve programs. But Wax Pass does not expire.
David Willis
executiveAnd the longer term goal there, Lorraine, I mean, that is really a means to an end. It's to get that new guest, give them an opportunity and give them a reason to come back for that second and third visit. The end goal would be to ultimately get them on a 9 plus 2 or 9 plus 3, yes.
Lorraine Maikis
analystOkay. And any other initiatives you're working on to drive Wax Pass sales?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveThere are. And some of them, I think, are discrete initiatives, such as how do we want to approach a Wax Pass promo period that we already have, and what are the types of new offerings, like a 3 plus 1. Another that I would put in this category of discrete initiatives is that we're now selling Wax Pass online for the first time. That was something that, believe it or not, in our 20-year -- we're 20 years this month, in our 20-year history, we hadn't done until last fall. And so we are seeing that, that is, one, it just removes friction, it's what our guests expect us to be able to do and that, that is a way of increasing our recurrence of Wax Pass purchases and also bringing new Wax Pass guests into the fold. So that's an exciting one. And then beyond that, it's thinking about how we talk about Wax Pass. Historically, for example, our in-center creative was all about terrific images and people, and that's still important. But we saw an opportunity to make some of our in-center creative actually more tech savvy. And before you even walk in the door, make sure that we're communicating the value of Wax Pass. So there are tactics like that as well. And then, as I briefly mentioned earlier, thinking about what are these educational flows, we call them, after the first visit, where we want to make sure that guests know that we have Wax Pass if they didn't already see the in-center creative and hear about it other ways, and that we're educating them about why it's a great routine to get in and how this is the best financial way to do it.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd then you recently engaged with a new media agency to drive the in-center reservations. So can you discuss the program and the impact that agency has had?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveSure. Sure. Thank you. So I'm glad that you mentioned that we engaged with them to drive in-center reservations because all of the national media work that we do really is to drive in-center reservations. We're not doing big top-of-funnel media. We're not doing -- it's not a national play. We say that we market nationally to drive reservations locally. And so it is all about that. And what we've seen so far, we onboarded with this new agency end of October last year, and from the time that they really took over the accounts and started adding new accounts until now, we've seen a very consistent increase in efficiency. And so this is something else where it's early. I wouldn't say that we have a very significant amount of time spend under our belts, especially given that this was through the holiday season, which is always a little bit -- it kind of can be an outlier in terms of digital media spend. So we're continuing to test and learn, but overall really happy with our ability to get more efficient in what we were already doing and also to get into some newer channels such as affiliates and TikTok. Although I guess with TikTok, we'll see what Congress says today.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd so they're driving in-center reservations, how exactly? And maybe talk about the guest experience and any incentives you're adding to try to increase the number of reservations as well.
Andrea Wasserman
executiveWell, from a media standpoint, we're really focused on making sure that our value propositions, the ones that I've mentioned earlier around efficiency, hygiene, expertise, that that's actually part of the advertising that we're doing. So again, this goes back to, we may have said everybody smooth, which is one of our big headlines before, but didn't necessarily carry through what that means and how you get there. So we're being more explicit now in that way. We're also using what's called performance creative. So rather than having creative and just testing to see what works in digital, we are actually designing modules and ads specifically for different channels and different purposes. So that makes a big difference as well. In terms of incentives, first wax free has been what we've hung our hat on for 20 years now, and that continues to be a mainstay. I think that the add on there is, okay, you get the first wax free, and now we're going to tell you about this 3 plus 1. So it kind of comes back to that and then also flows into this new and more consistent messaging around Wax Pass.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd then in the room with the esthetician at the checkout, how are you trying to drive that repeat appointment creation?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveWe're -- so our training is something that I'm really proud of. We actually have a new training system with new technology and new modules as part of that rolling out this year, which will really enhance the way that all of our wax specialists and our guest services associates at the front desk are able to learn what types of scripts are most valuable, what are the key messages that they want to be highlighting. And so we are pulling that into the wax suites more and more. We're doing visual merchandising actually within the suites of our retail product to make it easier for wax specialists to talk about that. We have some new fun buttons that they can wear now that say, ask me about Wax Pass or ask me what my favorite retail product is, just again, to introduce some of these prompts. And of course, our franchisees are also always thinking about the right ways to incent their teams for different behaviors as well. So I think that's where it all comes together.
Lorraine Maikis
analystI wanted to switch gears to pricing. Can you talk a little bit about your history of taking price, how that's executed, what you're recommending to your franchisees, and what they've actually been doing over time?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveYes. So as we've said before, pricing was a tailwind for us in both 2021 and 2022. I do need to remind everybody that legally, our franchisees set their own prices. So we want to be a helpful partner in that process. We are constantly analyzing the market and trying to come up with insights and recommendations even that we can share. But at the end of the day, it's a decision that our franchisees make. Some of the factors that weigh into what we're sharing with them and what those recommendations might be are what our transactions trends are across the network and in certain areas, what our competition is doing, what we perceive consumer willingness to spend and elasticity to be, our costs, franchisees' 4-wall margins. So all of that is a part of it. We don't, at this point, have widespread plans to make widespread price increase or decrease recommendations for this year. But it's really an always-on kind of awareness that we want to be bringing to franchisees. We, as a part of how we think about pricing, also talk about bundles. So how can we put 2 different services together, get guests to pay a little bit more, not as much as if they were paying separately for these services. And that is a way to increase the dollars per ticket, we'd say.
Lorraine Maikis
analystOkay, bundles meaning the Wax Pass or bundles meaning adding services together?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveExactly, 2 services. Yes. So maybe you want to do a leg and add on a brow, things like that.
Lorraine Maikis
analystOkay, got it. So within your comp expectations for this year, is there any price that you expect to realize or mix from that?
David Willis
executiveWe -- the guidance for this year would assume most of the comp is coming from an increase in transactions and tickets. We had talked a bit that we expect the comp to build throughout the year, so we think Q1 will be the low point. But we think the lion's share of the comp this year should come from initiatives where we're driving more transactions through the system, more so than price.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd then unit growth is a key tenet of the European Wax story. Can you talk about the new center economics, what's the cost to open, the breakeven, the maturity and then how consistent these centers have been to ramp?
David Willis
executiveYes, so historically, they've ramped very consistently, really, across geography. So if you think about the upfront cost, this is a 1,400 to 1,500 square foot box. The standard configuration has 5 or 6 wax suites. It's about $400,000 to $450,000 to open a European Wax Center. Those costs obviously vary a bit market by market, based on GC labor costs. Historically, over the brand, year 1 revenues have been kind of $450,000. Franchisees, to get to 4-wall break even, typically by month 14, it generally follows a 4 to 5-year ramp. We consider a mature center around year 5, and historically, those have been throwing off $1 million in AUV and around 20% 4-wall EBITDA. The $400,000 to $450,000 has increased from -- used to be $350,000 a few years ago. So what we're really focused on is driving faster year 1 AUV ramps. We had our franchise conference a couple of weeks ago in Vegas, and we introduced what we call a new and improved NCO playbook. And all we've really done is we've studied in any given year, what I say, $450,000 is the average year 1 AUVs, we have centers that open far north of that every year. So we've studied our best performing centers that have opened over the last couple of years and just making recommendations, in fact, prerequisites for the network, for them to open their centers. We've studied the amount of money they spend before they open, the number of guests they have in their file on day 1. Candidly, our best operators are spending more money in months 2, 3, and 4. So we're being a bit more prescriptive to our network to say, hey, here's how many guests you need the day you open. Here's what you need to do in the month after you open. And also in terms of headcount, the number of staff you need to have and the requisite training. We saw -- in some instances over the last couple of years, we allowed centers to open, didn't have enough new guests in their file, or maybe they weren't properly staffed. And perhaps no surprise, they did not perform as well as those folks that spent the right amount of money, had the right number of guests on day 1, and were properly staffed from both a headcount perspective and an experienced set. We've seen our best centers open with more experienced waxers out of the gate and a bit more experienced center managers. So we're very excited about this playbook and we think the whole goal of this is to help our centers open with a steeper ramp in year 1, if you will.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd the pipeline is steep, I think over 370 licenses. Can you talk about center opening plans for this year, how many and what types of markets?
David Willis
executiveYes, so our guide was 75 to 80 new centers in fiscal 2024, which is in line with our long-term growth algorithm. We have -- this is on the backside, the last 2 years in a row we've opened 10 % to 11% new units in each of the last 2 years. So we feel really good about our ability to deliver 75 to 80 on the backside of low double-digit 2 years in a row. We have been very active in California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey over the last couple years. I expect us to remain active in those markets, but probably different DMAs. For example, we had a great franchise brand ambassador that was very active in the San Diego market the last couple of years. We probably won't stand up a lot of units in that particular market this year. We want to give those markets time to absorb what has been developed over the last couple of years. But we've got another great growth partner in Northern California that hasn't been quite as active that we would expect to pick up some activity this year. So the 370 licenses in our pipeline, we feel good about our visibility, not just for 2024, but our ability to deliver high single-digit unit growth in 2025 and beyond.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd who's opening these? What kinds of franchisees are you focused on?
David Willis
executiveWell, we're fortunate to receive commitments from franchise owners of all sizes. When I look at the pipeline of 370, about 70% of that represent commitments from our larger growth partners. These are either private equity backed operators or self-funded multi-unit developers. So they've got their own source of capital. We've got about 14 of these groups now that are active in the network, so we refer to them as our growth partners. These folks represent about 50% of all the open centers in the country, and about 70% of our commitments going forward. They are -- we talk about them more, Lorraine, because they're the ones that kind of make outsized commitments in terms of total license counts. But we're equally excited about the smaller folks that might own 2 centers that are still signing up to develop another 1 or 2 units in their respective markets. So we welcome growth from everyone in our network. We've seen over the last couple of years, over 90% of all new centers are coming from existing franchisees. That's important to us. It tells us they are generating sufficient returns on their capital if they're willing to reinvest with the brand. So we hope to keep supporting that group and see continued reinvestment from our existing operators.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd a question I hear a lot is how rates -- the rate environment changes things. Your rates are higher than they were when you laid out your initial plan at IPO. So how does that change the appetite or the profitability of your franchisees?
David Willis
executiveWell, certainly the higher rates for those that have put leverage on their balance sheets, it's impacting their bottom lines more than it did a couple of years ago, and we're sensitive to that, Lorraine. We -- I think, by and large, the visibility we have into our franchisees' balance sheets would say the leverage that's there is at responsible levels. Thus far, we really haven't seen the elevated interest rates put a dent in demand for additional licenses or developments. But we are sensitive to the fact that at a higher interest rate, these guys are making less net income than they were in a lower rate environment. We're doing our best to support our network to ensure that the 4-wall cash flows are still very positive that will support further development.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd are there any constraints on unit growth, finding labor, materials, the right markets?
David Willis
executiveI think a practical governor on unit growth would probably be access to labor. Now, as we exited the year, all of our centers had the target number of wax specialists on their payrolls. And actually, we're making very good progress on driving the mix of our most experienced waxers to have a higher mix of what we call our red and orange-level waxers. Our industry relations team has been very active in supporting our franchisees in terms of recruitment and making sure those centers are properly staffed. We have beauty school partnerships now in 8 different states with, I think, 38 different beauty schools. So while that's the practical governor, it has not put a constraint on our ability to grow. But I think at some point, that could be the practical governor on our unit growth.
Lorraine Maikis
analystI wanted to spend a little bit of time on laser, which is a trial that's underway. Can you talk about the rationale behind moving into laser and what the opportunities look like there?
David Willis
executiveYes. So we saw laser really as an opportunity to drive incremental 4-wall revenue and EBITDA for our franchisees. As we polled our guests, we learned that guests basically would give us permission to try other forms of hair removal beyond just our core service, which is waxing. So we started this pilot in 6 centers in New York, and we wanted to prove a couple of things to ourselves. One, could we use laser to attract new guests to the brand? 20 weeks of data would suggest yes, we can do that. We wanted to evaluate whether we could drive a greater share of wallets. So could we get a guest that's waxing one body part to laser another body part? Thus far, the pilot has proven we can do that. And can we contain cannibalization to within acceptable levels? This cannibalization I'm referring to is within our core services. And we found through 20 weeks of data at these 6 centers, we've been able to do that. The ultimate driver and litmus test for this to prove successful for the brand is can we drive incremental 4-wall revenue in EBITDA? 20 weeks of data would say this has significant potential for the brand. So on our most recent earnings call, we decided and discussed that we want to expand the pilot, the current franchisee, the [ TEN ] pilot, has seen enough data that he's going to expand the number of centers in New York where he's offering laser services. And as you may know, the regulatory environment varies a little bit by state. So we want to get smarter in other states that have different regulatory environments than the state of New York. So 20 weeks of data, we're very encouraged. It's still very early days, but we think an expansion of the pilot could inform ultimately how big and how broad laser could become within European Wax Center.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAnd I think it's a very different business because you have to attract, it's not as much of an evergreen customer, but it's a much higher price point. So how do your franchisees balance those 2 factors?
David Willis
executiveIt is. So if you think about -- our approach on pricing has been a little bit different than the market. We've tried to be very transparent about, here's the cost for this body part or that body part. And the price of laser is quite a bit higher. If you think about laser pricing relative to wax pricing, to laser 1 body part, that represents kind of 2 to 3 years' worth of waxing revenue. And so thus far, what we've really -- when you look at our #1 core service, the Brazilian bikini service is our #1 core service, we're seeing thus far a lot of interest in lasering other body parts beyond Brazilian bikini service. So we do want to strike that balance. And 20 weeks of data thus far would say we've been able to do that. But I still think we have quite a bit to learn, Lorraine, on how big and broad laser could go.
Lorraine Maikis
analystOkay. And then moving on to another opportunity that you had tested, and now you're rolling out, which is brow tinting. Can you talk -- well, maybe just define for the audience first, what is brow tinting? You might not have a lot of brow tinters in the audience. What is it, the success of the trial, and then what made you want to expand it?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveSo very briefly, it's putting color into the brow as opposed to just removing hair from it. And the reason that we wanted to test this is because we knew that our guests were coming to us for waxing, brow waxing being our second most popular waxing service that we offer, and then yet going somewhere else for their brow tinting, which is not convenient for them. It's a missed share of wallet opportunity for us. And brow tinting happens to be a really quick service that can fit very nicely into the 15-minute reservation booking window that we're using for the brow waxing anyway. So from a labor and margin standpoint, very opportunistic in that way as well. We did test it in a subset of centers, got a really positive reaction from franchisees, from their teams, from guests. We actually saw that guests coming in for brow tint in a lot of cases were new guests to our brand who found this a good entry point for them, and also that a good proportion of these guests were coming back in quick order for more brow tinting. So some nice repeat behavior there as well. And because of that, we are rolling it out almost network-wide this spring. I say almost because there are a couple of states that prohibit it, at least prohibit most formulas for it, the ones that we would be comfortable using, but most of the country will get it this spring.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAll right, and then men represent a small portion of the customer file. [ You highlighted ] first wax free for the audience, but talk a little bit about the market size and the opportunity there.
Andrea Wasserman
executiveWe do know that it's an opportunity. As you pointed out, it is a small portion of our guest file today. We talked with -- a couple of times today about differing costs of guest acquisition, laser being more, different channels being less, efficiency. It turns out that the male guest in this category is more expensive to acquire. And so when we think about our most efficient opportunities to drive in-center reservations, which we said is the goal of all of our media, we want to be really measured in how we are reaching out to this target audience, to this demographic. But it is -- we know that for every point of market share that we can gain there, there is some nice upside. And so the way that we're approaching it is taking a hard look at our website, at our digital experiences, making sure that they're well optimized for anybody who is searching digitally for male waxing, for men's waxing services, things like that. And then also once guests get to our website, that it's very easy to find and book the services that are most popular and most in demand from men or from people who may be making reservations for men.
Lorraine Maikis
analystGot it. So let's open it up and see if there's any questions.
Unknown Analyst
analystA couple of questions. I guess the first one, just getting back to the brow, isn't there -- is there eyeliner tinting also? Like, if someone's coming to do the brow, can you also do the -- it's probably be a dumb question, but isn't -- don't people do both?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveI think you're talking about permanent makeup, which is a little bit different and would go a step further. Our -- the way that we think about the expansion of services is what is kind of very adjacent or within that hair removal space. So obviously, we're known for waxing. Laser is another modality of hair removal. Tinting is often something that goes along with brow waxing. I think that beyond that, other forms of permanent or semi-permanent makeup are probably a little bit different and not something that we have plans to do right now.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And then when you think about the customer base, beyond trying to expand in the male, just what's happening with the age demographics? We've seen teens, pre-teens, even very interested in skincare. Right? I guess it's the [ sephora ] teens. Right? So is your customer base beginning to age, or are people coming into the door maybe at a younger age? And just is there a way to sort of take advantage of that?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveOverall, we've seen a lot of stability in the broad age range that we serve as a brand. Over time, those endpoints really have not changed very much. In terms of the distribution within them, anecdotally, yes, we do know that people are starting their hair removal journeys, be it laser or wax, at an earlier age. So far, that's not registering heavily in the data I think in part because of the way that we're able to collect data and who's actually making the reservation and some nuances like that. But certainly would agree with the trend that you're pointing to. We are hearing a lot about spring break this month in particular. We're seeing nice -- yes, exactly. Yes, yes, we are seeing that trend specifically in centers that are near universities that's been prevalent specifically over the past week. We were talking about this data yesterday, and that is, again, a bit of a younger customer, perhaps not as young as you're talking about, but overall, yes, it is a trend. And we are thinking about at what age we want to be marketing to guests and how to go about doing that.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd then when you think about the wallet, I guess, for self-care and beauty care, how much of it -- do you compete more directly with nail salons or just thinking about how people are allocating, what they're going to spend on their beauty, basically. Like just where do you find you're sort of competing against most?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveWell, I think, as Lorraine said, for our core guest, which again, between Wax Pass and routine is making up over 75% of our revenue. They don't see waxing as a trade-off with anything else. So they are routinely coming in every 4-ish weeks. They are not going to say, I'm going to get my nails done this month or I'm going to get a facial this month or anything else instead of getting waxed. This is a priority and it's something that they will continue to do. So we don't hear as much about the trade-offs. This really does seem, in a lot of ways, to be a category unto itself that people are evaluating in that box, if you will. That said, of course, we know the reality is that people have all kinds of expenses in their lives. And so if they really need to do something else, then for that minority of our guest file, they may be trading off.
Unknown Analyst
analystThe last one. Just in terms of approaching males, right, men. We've seen in like the alcohol industry, right, the growth in hard seltzers was really started with women and then women -- male -- men following what women were doing. Right? And it ended up being a category that was like 50% male, 50% female, so far different than the beer industry. So is the door to males, their partners, whether it's a female or a male, and I don't know, couples day or, I don't know, something like that.
Andrea Wasserman
executiveWe've talked about that. [ Would you ] like a role on our marketing team? No, we've definitely talked about things like that. It certainly is one of the doors in. I would say that the nice thing about this target audience is that there is more than 1 door. We know that there are entire populations that really are for themselves, just like we say, generally that you can wax for yourself, not for anybody else. It's all about revealing beautiful skin. That applies to men as well. And so we definitely do seek self-interest. And then, yes, all of the time we hear about partners who would like to be making reservations for men in their lives.
Lorraine Maikis
analystI guess maybe one more quick question. Retail products, we haven't spoken about that at all. It's not a huge part of your business, but it is a nice adjacency. Where are you in terms of how happy are you with the product at this point? What percentage of the business is it, and do you expect it to grow?
Andrea Wasserman
executiveThe product, I'm very happy with. I mean, as I've come in and gotten up to speed on the efficacy of it, the ingredients, the clinical testing that it goes through, it does not exist elsewhere in the market. And the vision for the portfolio has been and will continue to be what really enhances and extends our services. And so it's meant to really be sold as part of a reservation. Like your reservation is not really -- your visit with us is not really over until you have taken care of your in-between visit care needs. And so when you asked about what wax specialists are accountable for, part of that is making sure that they're walking guests to the wall and introducing them to this product and making really specific recommendations about what they need. We do see that when guests, at their first visit, buy retail products, they are quite significantly more likely to return because it makes their whole experience better.
David Willis
executiveAnd in terms of overall contribution to the business, the $1 million AUVs I was referring to, about 6% to 7% of that is going to be retail product. The balance will be services. Now, our best retailers in the network are pushing 15% to 20% of their sales in terms of retail products. So I think we have opportunity to drive more retail product to the system.
Lorraine Maikis
analystGreat. Well, thank you both for being here today.
Andrea Wasserman
executiveThank you so much.
Lorraine Maikis
analystAppreciate your time.
David Willis
executiveThank you for hosting, Lorraine.
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