Everest Medicines Limited (1952) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 28, 2026

SEHK HK Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Po Han Lin

analyst
#1

Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining today's Morgan Stanley Biotech without Border Series webcast. Everest Medicines, Travere-Partnered Civorebrutinib, Renal Disease Strategy and mRNA platform Innovation. This is Jack Lin, China Biotech/Taiwan Healthcare Analyst at Morgan Stanley. Also joining me today is our series co-host, Sean Laaman, who is the Head of U.S. SMID-Cap Biotech Research. Before we begin, please note, this call is intended for Morgan Stanley clients and not for members of the press. If you are a member of the press, please reach out separately. For important disclosures, please see www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. So today's discussion will focus on Everest global partnership with Civorebrutinib Therapeutics for Civorebrutinib or EVER-001 and its broader strategy across immune-mediated kidney diseases. We'll also talk about their next wave of programs coming from its proprietary AI-enabled mRNA platform and discuss management's perspective on global development and partnership opportunities for China origin innovation. So we're very pleased to have Mr. Ian Woo, President and Chief Financial Officer of Everest Medicine, joining us today. Hi, Ian.

Ian Ying Woo

executive
#2

Hi, Jack. Hi Sean.

Po Han Lin

analyst
#3

And with that, yes, let me turn the discussion over to Sean and Ian to kick us off on the fireside chat. Sean, please go ahead.

Sean Laaman

analyst
#4

Thank you, Jack, and welcome, Ian, and welcome, everyone, and thanks for dialing in. So first question, Ian, on the partnership rationale and the operating model. So with the Travere transaction now closed, what made Travere the right global partner for this asset? And how will the 2 companies divide development responsibilities, indication prioritization and decision-making from here?

Ian Ying Woo

executive
#5

Great. Thank you for the question. And it really is a pleasure to join this call and share our perspectives on the EVER-001 Civorebrutinib collaboration with Travere. So why do we think Travere is the right partner? I think, first and foremost, we really believe Travere, there is a very strong strategic fit with Everest. Travere is a recognized leader in rare kidney disease. They have very established clinical development, regulatory and commercial capabilities focused specifically on nephrology. I think as part of our interactions and due diligence on Travere, we noticed that they have -- the number of people that they have 100% focused on nephrology is really not that different from -- on an FTE basis at a large pharma company. So we really feel comfortable with their specific expertise in this space. Obviously, also, they demonstrated with sparsentan or Filspari, how they were able to get this product through clinical development and the regulatory approval as the first ever FDA-approved treatment for FSGS and the second FDA-approved treatment for IgA nephropathy. We just have an enormous amount of confidence in their ability to both speed up and maximize the value of Civo. So I think because of their expertise in nephrology, they really view the Civorebrutinib, not just as a pMN asset, but a potential pipeline in the product, right, across multiple immune-mediated kidney diseases, which is exactly how we think about this opportunity. So this transaction, I think, really creates a very complementary partnership. Everest has generated the initial clinical proof of concept in pMN. And Travere brings extensive global nephrology expertise, very long-standing relationships with investigators and regulators and an existing commercial infrastructure serving nephrologists, right? That's also exceedingly important. So combining those strengths, we believe, gives Civo the best opportunity to become a global therapy. Now from a development perspective, Travere will lead the development and commercialization in the licensed territories. So those are sort of outside of Greater China and a few APAC markets, and we'll continue to work in our territories. We're already working closely on development strategy, clinical execution and the regulatory interactions, and we will ensure seamless development globally. So with respect to indication prioritization, so pMN clearly is the lead indication as we have demonstrated compelling proof of concept. Beyond that, I think the companies will -- I think we both share the view that immune-mediated FSGS, minimum change disease and potentially other renal indications represent attractive opportunities. But the sequence and the pace of development will ultimately be guided by data, scientific rationale and discussions with regulators, okay? In terms of how we work together, as is typical for a partnership of this nature, we have established joint governance structures to coordinate all aspects of this partnership and to really allow each company to leverage our own strength while being very coordinated globally. So our -- ultimately, our shared objective is really quite straightforward, right? We want to move quickly to generate high-quality clinical data and to realize the full potential of Civorebrutinib across multiple immune-mediated kidney diseases for patients around the world.

Sean Laaman

analyst
#6

Wonderful. Maybe just to double-click on the pipeline and the product opportunity, which -- where you're positioning Civo. And then just to go back on the proof-of-concept data. So just your confidence in that proof of concept in primary membranous nephropathy translating into FSGS, minimal change disease and potentially other renal indications. And where does it selective reversible covalent BTK profile offer the clearest differentiation versus existing immunosuppressive and emerging B-cell-directed approaches?

Ian Ying Woo

executive
#7

Yes, great questions. So first with pMN data, we really believe that provides a very strong proof of concept for the underlying mechanism of BTK inhibition in autoimmune renal diseases. So across pMN, immune-mediated FSGS and MCD and IgA nephropathy as well, right? The common biological threat is that dysregulated immune signaling can drive podocyte injury, disruption of the glomerulus filtration barrier and proteinuria, right? So B-cell activation and pathogenic antibody production are -- that's very clear for pMN. But these are -- these abnormal signaling are also implicated in FSGS and MCD, right? So in pMN, we have seen Civo produce very rapid and substantial reduction in anti-PLA2R autoantibodies. And this is followed by meaningful reduction in proteinuria, improvements in serum albumin and the stabilization of kidney function. This sequence is very important because it shows that Civo is first acting on the underlying immune disease activity and that the clinical response follows, right? So for example, if you look at the data, we don't have any slides right now, but I think a lot of this data has been disclosed by both us and by Travere. So at week 12, the autoantibody reduction anti-PLA2R is approximately 80% already, right, especially in the high dose. But the proteinuria decline got to about 80% by week 36, right? So it's delayed, but it's also very substantial. So this gives us a lot of confidence that BTK is a clinically relevant target in immune-mediated glomerular diseases. And we've initiated in China a basket study in FSGS, MCD and IgA nephropathy. And part of the rationale for that is to test the broader mechanistic hypothesis, right? So yes, I think the differentiation of Civo versus other BTK inhibitors is really -- I mean, it's a covalent reversible binder of BTK. And I think that's very important because what it means is it binds very tightly and potently with the BTK receptor. But on the other hand, it's -- the reversibility is that the binding is not permanent, right? And so BTK does come off. And I think that's important versus some of the irreversible covalent binders, right, because we believe it converts some of the safety benefits that we have seen with Civo. The high selectivity is also very important, right, because it reduces off-target effects. So in clinical experience to date, both in patients and in healthy volunteers, we've not seen the platelet neutropenia, cardiac or liver safety signals typically associated with some of the earlier generation BTK inhibitors. Obviously, we still recognize that this is early days. But I think so far, the profile of the product is very interesting to us, right? I think the fact that Civo as an oral agent is also important because it offers tremendous convenience, improves compliance, right? And also offers flexibility in disease management, especially for these more chronic diseases. So if you take all of these together, we see a very differentiated profile, rapid control of immune disease activity, targeted modulation of B cells and an oral selective and reversible treatment, right, that we think is suitable for chronic use, right? So this is really the basis of the pipeline in a product thesis. So pMM provides the initial validation and FSGS and MCD offers potential compelling upside. Honestly, as we generate more supportive clinical data, why will we stop at the kidney disease, right? We will certainly work with Travere to maximize the potential of Civo and potentially across autoimmune diseases.

Sean Laaman

analyst
#8

Wonderful. And I'll pass it over to Jack.

Po Han Lin

analyst
#9

Yes. Absolutely And yes, I'm very excited about the opportunity with Travere Therapeutics. And I think it's also quite inspiring. I mean this is kind of our first of many, I hope, our collaboration with kind of global partners and kind of first proof of concept in terms of our portfolio and pipeline quality. So maybe I want to take a bit of a gear shift here to kind of discuss a bit more in terms of what other rising stars within your portfolio. I think one thing that I think the company has been [indiscernible] with the investor and with the market, and we're starting to see more and more proof-of-concept data and signals from is kind of about the personalized cancer vaccines, right? So I think our pipeline, EVM16, it has generated initial first in human immunogenicity efficacy signals. And I think we also have moved the EVM14 to get IND clearance in U.S. and China, right? So I want to learn a bit more about both of these pipelines as well as the platform. And I think the key question I have here is really how do you see the respective roles of personalized and versus kind of off-the-shelf cancer vaccines? And kind of what -- when should we expect the next clinical readout to constitute meaningful validation of your overall underlying AI-enabled mRNA platform?

Ian Ying Woo

executive
#10

Yes. Great. I think -- thanks, Jack, for that question. I think the question specifically is on mRNA cancer vaccines. But I think in your preamble to that question, leading up to that question, right, I also talked about what's next. And I think what's next, clearly, we have our own discovery platform that we have set up. And the -- today, it's very much focused on mRNA therapeutics. And I will answer your question on the cancer vaccines. But I think we are also looking for the next Civorebrutinib, right? So as you may know, Civorebrutinib was an asset from a Chinese biotech company that we licensed in. We did the -- we saw the potential to develop this in autoimmune renal diseases. We ran the clinical proof-of-concept study that led to the Travere collaboration, right? And ultimately, I think the realization of the global value for that asset, right? And that was 3 or 4 years ago. Arguably, there's a lot more substrate that we can partner with. And we've really expanded our BD focus, right? And I would say that we would look for additional opportunities to repeat what we did with EVER-001 or Civorebrutinib, right? And at the same time, of course, right, another opportunity is the assets from our own discovery platform, right? And so sort of commenting on your questions on the cancer vaccines, we do have 2 different kinds of cancer vaccines, right, in the clinic. We have a third cancer vaccine program that's still preclinical. It's an immunomodulatory cancer vaccine. So with -- the difference between TAA and PCV is pretty compelling, right? So speaking about the TAA first, TAA-based vaccines are developed against specific tumor types. So they have relatively well-defined indications, right? The significant advantage of TAAs is that they are off the shelf, right? And they offer immediate treatment, which really, I think, translates into the potential for broader populations of patients, those that are both earlier or more -- with earlier or more advanced stage cancers, right, could be addressable with TAA vaccines. They're low cost. Essentially, you should think about them as traditional biologics, right, or with the profile of the traditional biologics. So it's very, very compelling, but we need to generate the proof-of-concept data in -- with the TAAs. And our first program is EVM14 is -- has 5 tumor-associated antigens against the squamous cell carcinomas. And if that were successful, we will develop additional TAAs, right, for additional cancer types. PCVs have generated probably more clinical validation, right -- than TAA vaccines. right? So we are very excited about that, and we also have more data from our own PCV programs. As you mentioned, the EVM16, we've completed an IIT study in China in solid tumors. And we have disclosed the first batch of data at this April's AACR. We've seen very compelling immunogenicity and even some efficacy signals, right? So we are taking that into the next IIT study. We're calling a Phase Ib IIT that's -- we're working on the launch preparation right now. It will definitely initiate in the second half of this year. That will -- the focus of that is a lot more specific. It will be in the first-line non-small cell lung cancer maintenance setting, okay? And it will be sort of in combination with PD-1s. And we're expecting data readout right, in 2027. So the strategy is there in terms of selecting the indication is one that is relatively allows for a faster data readout, but also in an earlier line setting. And we thought that the first-line maintenance setting is a good balance of these 2 objectives. We do think the -- ultimately, the commercial potential of PCVs are going to be in earlier lines, right? But we need to sort of more quickly demonstrate clinical proof of concept rather than waiting 5 years in an adjuvant or neoadjuvant setting. So look for us to -- for the first patient in for the first-line maintenance trial for PCV in the second half of this year with initial data readout in 2027. With TAA, we are in the middle of a U.S. and China Phase I dose escalation study. We expect that to complete before the end of this year with data also expected in 2027.

Po Han Lin

analyst
#11

Got it. So quite exciting times later this year and also early next year for this platform and this part of the portfolio. So just in interest of time, I want to really quickly touch on this a bit relative to earlier part of our portfolio, but a very hot area, especially recently nonetheless, is our effort in the in vivo CAR-T development, right? So I think really -- I guess it's kind of 2 questions in one, right? So one is in terms of trying to understand what is the central technology or technical advantage of our LNP target approach relative to kind of conventional ex vivo CAR-T. And also, I think the second one is we are seeing a lot more, I think, especially with Sean's companies, especially when the broader team, there's a lot of focus on in vivo CAR-T. So in terms of our platform technology, which specific hurdles from cell specificity, transfection efficiency, expression, duration, safety or redosing or anything -- any other matching, which one do you see as kind of the most key hurdles that you guys are able to clear and become clinically differentiated? If you can just kind of touch with us on this area.

Ian Ying Woo

executive
#12

Sure. Yes. Thank you for the question. And again, for those who are not familiar with the Everest approach to in vivo CAR-T, I mean, we are focused on antibodies conjugated to LNP to deliver mRNA coding therapies, right, in a cell type specific way. So the platform is actually broader than just the in vivo CAR-T, right, because we can target different tissue types and cell types and deliver different kinds of mRNA. But for our in vivo CAR-T programs, it is a T cell surface receptor that we are targeting, and we are targeting a broader subset of T cells. And our initial program is mRNA-coding CD19 CAR, right? So the -- I think the advantage is pretty clear, right? If you can move and sort of autologous personalized CAR-T therapy into something that's off the shelf that does not require lymphodepletion, right, and is scalable and -- that's cell-free and controllable in terms of quality, that will be extremely compelling, right? And so we certainly think that this is why a lot of large pharma companies and biotechs are focused on this space. I think the technical hurdles, I think cell specificity, I think you mentioned cell specificity, I think that is -- we can get to the right cells pretty easily. We have also sort of -- there's an active piece with the antibody targeting. There's the passive piece with the right LNP. So we have our own library of LNPs, and we have different profiles of LNPs. The ones that we've selected for in vivo CAR-T is one that deselects the liver and more preferentially goes to the spleen, right? We have also put in engineered different sequences and modifications into the mRNA that further results in the silencing of any expressions for any molecules that does get into the liver, right? And so I think there are a lot of sort of innovation that we have to ensure specificity. In terms of transfection efficiency, look, I mean, I'm not sure if there is a clear goal or threshold that you have to get to, to produce the same type of response as a certain amount of autologous CAR-T cells, right? I'd tell you that we have gotten to levels of anywhere between 40% to 80% transfection of T cells to CAR-T cells in nonhuman primates, right? And I think even at 40%, it produces very compelling B-cell depletion. I think ultimately, it is going to be -- you don't need to get to 100%, that is for sure, right? But we will optimize and generate more clinical data and be able to get to the optimal level a little bit better in the future. In terms of duration and safety and redosing, I think that is the key hurdle or the key challenge, right, that the industry have to solve, right? Can you -- can an in vivo CAR-T molecule produce complete and durable B-cell depletion in a safe way, right? And if there are -- if B cells -- diseased B cells do come back, right, can you redose those patients to drive efficacy, right? And I think this is -- we're in the middle of a number of IIT studies. Hopefully, we will have the answers to some of these questions in the next 6 to 12 months, right? We are also working with -- working on our U.S. IND filing package, right? We have guided this before, and we'll confirm that we're still looking to file the U.S. IND before the end of this year. So the combination of clinical data from China IIT studies and an open U.S. IND, I think will put a lot of -- hopefully, a lot of attention on this asset, both from investors and strategic partners.

Po Han Lin

analyst
#13

Got it. I think in interest of time, I'm going to pass it really quick back to Sean for some final questions.

Sean Laaman

analyst
#14

Great talking to you Ian. Maybe just to take the discussion a bit broader, and we note the relationship with Travere. But from your perspective, what has changed most in how global pharma evaluates China originated innovation?

Ian Ying Woo

executive
#15

How they have changed in how they evaluate. Well, first, I mean, they've really increased their presence in China, right? I know about -- Travere doesn't have anybody there, but the large pharma community all have -- some of them have like 20 people, over 20 people, right? But I think at a minimum, they probably have at least one search and evaluation person for each of the therapeutic areas that they focus on. That's probably a minimum. Some of them have transaction people. So they're spending a lot of -- they're building local presence. There's a lot of global commitment. I remember a couple of weeks ago, I was in Shanghai. And in the same day, there was a there was a large pharma company that was doing a Global Partnering Day and another large pharma that's doing an R&D Day in a particular therapeutic area, which in itself is also pretty interesting, right? In the past, they will have maybe 1 R&D Day for the entire company. Now it's divided by therapeutic areas. And that same day, there was also a reception by one of the large venture capital firms that was looking for -- to be part of the ecosystem there. So there's a lot of global commitment as well. I think they want to be plugged into the ecosystem, I think as much for sourcing as it is for competitive intelligence, right? But I think beyond that, it's really the same, right? I mean it's all about differentiation and genuine differentiation, right? So right, why this asset, why now? Why is it better than everything else? And how does it fit commercially? So I think with our asset, we believe that Travere looked at the data that we have generated in pMN and the profile of this asset is a kind of an oral product, right, and the safety margins and really said, hey, this is a product that could be differentiated in the U.S. if we develop this aggressively, right? So I think beyond that, I mean, it's really the same things in terms of clean and strong IP, CMC and manufacturability, right, and a very solid translational package, right? And then finally, I would say it's also important to -- for the management team, right? And especially, one, is that they want to make sure that there is credibility, right, in the people who have developed this asset and generated the data to date. And two, if it's a partnership, then you're getting into a marriage, right? You really need to make sure that you can work with and trust the people across the table, right? And so I think those are all very important elements in terms of how global companies look at China, evaluate a partner, a potential partner, right, and how these partnerships could work in the -- going forward.

Sean Laaman

analyst
#16

Wonderful. Well, Ian, with that, we've just gone past time, and it's been wonderful speaking to you, and thank you for participating in this series that Jack's been the genius to put together. So we look forward to continuing the dialogue. So thank you, Ian, and thank you, Jack, and thank you, everyone, for listening.

Ian Ying Woo

executive
#17

Well, thank you very much.

Sean Laaman

analyst
#18

Thank you, everyone.

Po Han Lin

analyst
#19

You may now disconnect, but thank you.

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