Evolution Mining Limited (EVN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 19, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorThank you for standing by, and welcome to the Evolution Mining Limited Full Year 2026 Financial Results Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Lawrie Conway, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Lawrie Conway
executiveThank you, Darcy, and good morning, everyone. I'm joined on the call today by Frances Summerhayes, our CFO; and Peter Rocky O'Connor, our GM, Investor Relations. Today, we released our FY '26 full year financial results on the ASX, including a presentation, which will be the reference point for the call. Fran is excited to go through the financial results. In our first year at Evolution, so many new financial records have been set and she is delivering a bumper record dividend. We also announced changes to our Board Tommy McKeith, who has been a director since 2014 will be retiring at our Annual General Meeting, and John Vann will be joining the Board on 1 December. Tommy has been an invaluable contributor to the Board, Evolution and me personally. His knowledge and enthusiasm for the industry and almost every ore body is amazing. As Jake commented in the release, it is fitting to acknowledge and recognize the lasting impact he has had on our business, culture and success. Tommy will leave an enduring legacy, and we are extremely fortunate to benefit from his counsel, vision, wisdom and friendship throughout his tenure. John is a geoscientist with more than 3 decades of experience across global mining businesses. I'm sure he will be a valuable addition to our Board and look forward to working with John when he joins us in December. Turning to the results and starting on Slide 3. Our record results reflect the quality of our portfolio and above all the dedication and efforts of the entire Evolution team. We are generating high returns and delivering on our commitment to shareholders. The record financial performance is on the back of safe, consistent and reliable operational delivery complemented by our disciplined approach to cost and capital management. As mentioned on the quarterly call last month, we delivered FY '26 safely with our total recordable injury frequency of 5.9 remaining low. Today, we also released our inaugural climate report under the new reporting standard, highlighting the positive work being undertaken throughout our business to leave a lasting sustainable legacy. Our high-margin business is generating significant cash flow with a record cash flow of nearly $1.4 billion. The updated dividend policy with payout rate of targeting 60% of annual group cash flow is sector leading. This means a record final dividend of $0.21 per share. For context, the total FY '26 dividend of $833 million is more than our market cap was in early 2015 when we made our first major acquisition. The multiple projects at Northparkes, Ernest Henry and Cowal will generate high returns and further improve the quality of the portfolio when completed. We are set to continue our safe, reliable performance in FY '27 with guidance expected to sustain our high margin, high cash generation position. I will cover the guidance details later in the call. Moving to Slide 4. This slide demonstrates our disciplined allocation of capital to drive sustained high returns. Our balance sheet supports our strategy through the cycle, be that for value-accretive acquisitions high returning organic growth investment or dividends. We adapt our allocation depending on market situations in the different stages of our mine plans. It is always done with a view to maximize our shareholder returns. While we've been mainly focused on advancing our organic growth pipeline in the past couple of years, we have not ignored accretive deals for our shareholders. Over the past year, the allocation of funds between organic growth opportunities and dividends is almost a 50-50 split at around $830 million to $850 million for each of them. We have also done accretive deals. At approximately $250 million, this is smaller in scale than normal, yet they are just as important to the portfolio. It clearly shows that we have the capacity and flexibility to allocate into all 3 areas to sustain the high returns for shareholders, which Fran will demonstrate. With that, I'll hand over to Fran.
Frances Summerhayes
executiveThank you, Lawrie, and good morning, everyone. It is my pleasure and privilege in my first year with Evolution to present our most successful financial results. These financial results reflect the quality of our portfolio, the consistency and resilience of our performance and the benefits of our high-margin operations. Importantly, we have banked the benefits of the higher metal prices, and we have shared this success with our shareholders. We are very proud of what our Evolution team has achieved. We delivered a record underlying EBITDA of $3.2 billion, up 44% from last financial year with an annual record underlying EBITDA margin of 57%. Our costs are sector leading with our all-in sustaining costs of $1,717 an ounce, resulting in an underlying net profit after tax of $1.6 billion, up 63%. This translates into a record group cash flow of $1.4 billion, up 76% from prior year. With earnings per share reaching a record $0.73 per share, up 57% on prior year. These financial results demonstrate that we continue to deliver on our commitments to our shareholders, returning a record fully franked final dividend of $0.21 per share, up 62% and making a total dividend for FY '26 of $0.41 per share more than doubled from prior year and is 60% of our FY '26 group cash flow. Whilst we have degeared the balance sheet and achieved a net cash position, demonstrating that we can simultaneously invest in the business to enhance the portfolio while increasing our shareholder returns. Highlighted on Slide 6. This year, we have achieved a record net mine cash flow of $2.1 billion, more than double from prior year. We invested $1.1 billion of capital into our operations with high returning growth projects that are all on schedule and budget. Across the portfolio, we have had annual record net mine cash flow at Cowal, Northparkes, Red Lake and Mungari. We continue to deliver consistently high EBITDA margins across the portfolio as demonstrated on the right side of this slide, with group EBITDA margin increasing 12% to 57%. Two standout year-on-year performance with Red Lake and Mungari. Red Lake delivered an underlying EBITDA margin of 62% and reflecting consistent and reliable operational execution and cost control in a tough environment. This converts into almost 4x net mine cash flows than prior year. The operation has demonstrated its ability to sustainably generate returns and has earned the right to compete for capital within our portfolio. Mungari was another year-on-year standout, achieving an EBITDA margin of 65%, following the successful commissioning and ramp-up of the expanded 4.2 million tonnes per annum processing plant. The project was delivered 15% below budget and 9 months ahead of schedule. Importantly, this directly converted into a net mine cash flow of $366 million, more than 3x from prior year. These operations highlight the value created through disciplined capital allocation, focused project execution and consistent operational delivery across the portfolio. We enter financial year 2027 with a fully unhedged gold and copper portfolio. Moving to Slide 7. These all-time financial records for Evolution translate directly into record shareholder returns as we continue to deliver on our commitment in rewarding our shareholders. At year-end, the group held almost $1.4 billion of cash with an undrawn revolving credit facility of $525 million, providing us sufficient liquidity. During the year, we have repaid all our bank term debt, and we now only have our low-cost and long tenure U.S. private placement with an average fixed rate of 4.47%. The with the first tranche not due to be repaid until November '28. During the year, we have maintained our investment-grade credit rating, reinforcing the quality of our portfolio, balance sheet, and long-term outlook. Following these record financial results, we are pleased to reward our shareholders with our highest ever dividend. After paying a record fully franked interim dividend of $0.20 per share, the Board has approved a 27th consecutive dividend and a record fully franked final dividend of $0.21 per share. Given our improved financial position and outlook, we have reviewed our dividend policy and increased the payout ratio to a target of 60% of annual group cash flow, a significant increase from the previous 50%. This sector-leading dividend policy is supported by our 17-year reserve life and reflects our confidence in the long-term strength of the business while reinforcing our commitment to rewarding our shareholders. Since financial year '23, we have delivered on our commitment to deleverage the balance sheet, reducing gearing from 33% net debt to a net cash position in just 3 years, while continuing to invest in the business and deliver shareholder returns. Our capital management plan is designed to maximize long-term shareholder value while maintaining disciplined investment to continually enhance the quality of the portfolio and balance sheet. As Slide 8 shows our record financial performance is underpinned by consistent and disciplined capital allocation. We continue to enhance the quality, resilience and longevity of our portfolio through investment in high-return growth opportunities while improving overall portfolio returns. The Board approved projects shown on this slide at half year results demonstrate this approach in action. Now while this is one financial metric we look at, based on the current gold and copper prices, the expected internal rates of return for these projects are materially higher than the original base case assumptions, providing additional value and upside for our shareholders in current market conditions. As we enter financial year 2027, Evolution is in a position of considerable financial flexibility. We are operating in a supportive gold and copper price environment and focused on banking the upside. We have a high-quality and high-margin portfolio of assets a pipeline of fully self-funded, high-return growth opportunities and the financial capacity to execute on our strategy and continue to reward our shareholders. I will now hand you back to Lawrie. Thank you.
Lawrie Conway
executiveThank you, Fran. Slide 9 summarizes our FY '27 guidance. Charts on the right-hand side highlights our cash flow potential outcome at the midpoint of guidance at current prices and our sensitivities. Overall, our FY '27 plan will enable us to generate significant cash flows. At current prices, our operating mine cash flow would be around $3.6 billion, which is $200 million higher than FY '26, even allowing for cost escalation in FY '27. If the metal prices were around consensus levels, the cash flow would be approximately $3.4 billion at a range of $3.4 billion to $3.6 billion and allowing for our planned capital investment and other costs such as tax, exploration and overheads, our group cash flow will allow us to sustain meaningful dividends for shareholders. We know the main drivers to our cash flow, as shown on the sensitivities chart and we manage each of these in line with our cost and capital discipline. In terms of the guidance details, our group production is guided at 660,000 to 730,000 ounces of gold and 63,000 to 70,000 tonnes of copper. Outside of Mt Rawdon finishing production this quarter, there is no material change in production capacity across the other operations. Production is weighted to the second half of the year as we complete the access to the second decline at the Cowal underground mine and access new mining areas in Red Lake. The normal semiannual major shutdowns will take place at Cowal and Ernest Henry in the September and March quarters. For the September quarter, we are expected to produce in the range of 160,000 to 166,000 ounces and copper in the range of 16,000 to 17,000 tonnes. Our group all-in sustaining cost is guided at $1,795 to $1,995 per ounce, which will remain one of the lowest in the sector. This is based on a copper price of USD 5.72 per pound compared to the spot price that is approximately 15% higher. As outlined last month, the main drivers to the change in the all-in sustaining cost is the impact of cost escalation assumed at 4% to 5% or $150 or $160 per ounce as well as the decision to invest an additional $50 million to $60 million in sustaining capital on fleet and infrastructure to ensure long-term operational reliability. Our group capital guidance aligns to our FY '27 outlook outlined in our June quarterly report. The main areas of investment for major projects and mine development are on the approved growth projects, namely E22, Coarse Particle Flotation and the expansion study at Northparkes, the open pit continuation project at Cowal the development of Bert at Ernest Henry. All these projects remain within the original approved budget. In summary, on Slide 10, we have a high-margin business and a 17-year reserve life. We are very much focused on delivering sustained returns. The combined effort throughout our business over the past couple of years to deliver safe and reliable performance is set to continue in FY '27. We remain committed to margin over ounces, while at the same time making sure we capture the benefits of the high metal prices. All our growth projects remain on schedule and budget. The balance sheet flexibility enables us to continue executing our strategy with confidence. Out of all of this, we make sure our shareholders benefit and our improved dividend policy targeting a 60% payout rate demonstrates that. For FY '26, the dividend is equal to 20% of our achieved gold price, which is an outstanding return for our shareholders. Darcy, please open the line for questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Kate McCutcheon with Bank of America.
Kate McCutcheon
analystCongrats on the results. Can we just revisit the CapEx again for '27, which you gave us last month. We previously have the $0.9 billion to $1.1 billion to FY '30. So say circa $5.6 billion, '27 to '30. Can you remind me what's in and out in terms of upcoming projects like Northparkes mill expansion, for example, and then I guess I'm trying to work out, do we still think about that same envelope spend for FY '30. And if it's just this year that's lumpier. Like how has that envelope changed? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. Thanks, Kate. Look, so the CapEx outlook of the $900 million to $1.1 billion FY '30. The projects that are in there, the OPC at Cowal, the E22 and Bert mine development, the Coarse Particle Flotation and obviously, our sustaining capital. So they are all of those projects. The outcome of the study at Northparkes will determine what we invest in terms of if we expand the capacity there. So the only changes to that previous outlook is the additional sustaining capital that we've outlined today and last month of $50 million to $60 million a year. And we did say that we expect that to be at least for the next 3 years that we'll be investing at that higher rate. And this year, the $70 million to $90 million on studies and works that we're going to undertake for future growth options. So if you look at it, there's nothing in terms of capital inflation that we're building into that. There are no new major projects that we're bringing into that outlook and the existing ones that are in execution are all on schedule and on original budget. Does that clarify it for you? .
Kate McCutcheon
analystSo the envelope is still essentially the same for the sustaining CapEx.
Lawrie Conway
executiveCorrect.
Kate McCutcheon
analystYes. Okay. And then we had the Carnaby deal that you announced for another 10,000 tonnes of copper a year. And I know you haven't got the keys to the asset yet, but when do you think you could have first ore to the Ernest Henry mill. And then secondly, there was the third-party tolling agreement with Glencore that you announced there kind of separately. What is the thinking there? Or how should we think about that part? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveSo for the Carnaby deal, we expect that to close in November, subject to the Carnaby shareholder vote. We then have said it will be about a 12, 18 months to really close out that feasibility study. And then beyond that, you'd be looking at about another 12 to 18 months. So you are potentially looking up to about 3 years from October, November. In terms of the third-party deal, so that is linked to a project that Glencore has an offtake agreement on the Mt Margaret one. And so if that -- if that project starts, that ore would come through into the plant, given that we've got that capacity. And when we look at the Carnaby deal and that offtake agreement, we certainly have the capacity to do those as well as anything that may come out of the Corella exploration program that we're currently running.
Kate McCutcheon
analystOkay. And the Mt Margaret pit being the one that Xstrata previously mined the satellite? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes.
Kate McCutcheon
analystOkay. Got it. And then just quickly, the noncash component that you've assumed in the Cowal all-in sustaining costs, please? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveGive me 30 seconds. Cowal in the noncash component is about $50 to $70 an ounce this year add to cost.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Levi Spry, UBS.
Levi Spry
analystMaybe a question for Fran, I guess, just following on from the capital questions, if I think about what's potentially coming next at Northparkes and maybe some of that Carnaby stuff and maybe some more Cowal. Can you walk us through the process to arrive at the 60%? What drives the upper band and maybe you can talk to potentially what other forms of returns may or may not have come into consideration? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes, Levi, I'll get Fran to talk about the capital allocation and dividends, all I'm working on the basis is that since Frans arrived, we're paying a lot more out to shareholders. So she's got to build on that this year. And in the capital as I just said to Kate, all of the projects are in execution and studies are in our outlook. The next major ones really will be the outcome of the study at Northparkes this year. And then at Cowal, it will be the outcomes of the exploration and drilling that we've got going on at E41 and the underground potential for a second underground. They would be the next main pieces of capital. In terms of Carnaby and the Great Duchess project, we believe there's a lot more work to firm up that feasibility study. And so once we take ownership in November, we're going to turn our attention to completing that study. And that's when we'll have the best indication to give you an outlook on what that capital would be. Fran, do you just want to talk on the 60%?
Frances Summerhayes
executiveYes, sure. Thanks, Levi. So our capital management plan is consistent and focused obviously on maximizing long-term -- and what I mean by that is based on our life of mine plans, the quality of our assets, we look at the most economic way to bring our reserves and resources to market. So we're focused on balance and be disciplined investing in our high-returning growth options and opportunities within the portfolio, but also balancing rewarding our shareholders via capital returns. So given our financial position, the confidence in the outlook and portfolio, the highest return outcomes for our shareholders is increasing our target dividend payout to 60% of annual group cash flow. So we'll be balanced in regards to investing in our business, maximize value and also maintain finance flexibility to confidently execute on our strategy. But as we've said before, we don't see value, and we don't intend to accumulate excess cash on the balance sheet. So if the gold or copper prices remain supportive and continue to increase, resulting in, say, cash generation before our -- higher than our business requirements, obviously a good problem to have. We will continue to evaluate the full range of capital management options to reward our shareholders like we have done today.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Matthew Frydman with MST Financial.
Matthew Frydman
analystA couple more following up from similar themes. Maybe firstly on Carnaby. Can you comment at all on the structure of the consideration? Obviously, all scrip offer, you've got $1.35 billion in cash and pretty low cost debt, as Fran outlined. I know it's a very, very small amount of dilution, but wouldn't it be better for your existing shareholders to put some of that cash and balance sheet to work rather than issuing more equity. I guess, just wondering how you think about the structure there. And also how that relates to any other sort of bolt-on opportunities in general across your portfolio, whether you see any other opportunities for that sort of M&A? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes, Matt. Look, I think when we look at it, we've got to also consider what was the Carnaby's Board and team's preference in terms of the transaction as well in that by us offering them scrip they can continue to participate in the upside on the project through taking shares in Evolution. I think the other thing -- and we do try to limit issuing the stock. And this is 1%. I think when you look at it, that is the best use of our scrip at the moment in this transaction. And then as we look at other things going forward, if you look at all of our other acquisitions, we've always used a mix of cash, debt and equity. And we will always do that depending on the size and the scale of it.
Matthew Frydman
analystAnd maybe any other opportunities across your portfolio for similar sort of bolt-on acquisitions. Obviously, Ernest Henry has the benefit of latent mill capacity. But yes, how do you see that across your portfolio?
Lawrie Conway
executiveI think if we look across the portfolio, Cowal, we're able to keep that plant filled similarly at Red Lake, Ernest Henry, we've got the land at Corella as well as now looking at Carnaby, Northparkes, I think we've got enough ore bodies there to fill that plant, be it at current state or expand state and Mungari is probably one that's got capacity, but there's not a lot of options right now for us to bring something in that will improved the quality at Mungari.
Matthew Frydman
analystThat's helpful. And then maybe just following up on the sort of capital management plan questions. Obviously, the company has a pretty enviable track record on dividends, and you've increased that further today with an update to the policy. So I do feel a bit like I'm complaining that maybe the view is a bit too cold. But with the cash on the balance sheet, I guess, what made the Board reluctant to consider, I suppose, a broader range there or perhaps a special dividend or something to really sort of accelerate those shareholder returns in the current environment, current metal prices, current outlook?
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes, Matt, I said over the last 6 months, no matter what capital management plan that Fran and the Board end up with. We're not going to please every shareholder. If we try to please everyone, we're probably going to please no one. I think when you look at $1.4 billion of group cash flow, we're paying out over $830 million of that back to our shareholders. I think that's an incredible rate of return. And then we could have easily gone higher than that, but I think that's a good step from a 50% to 60%. We've always said, and as Fran said just earlier, yes, we're not going to build a lot of cash and we can't control. If the metal prices stay where they are, as I outlined with our guidance, we will make significant cash flows this year. . And if the prices are higher, therefore, the dividend cents per share will be higher for our shareholders. And then in the next 12 months, if they do stay there, Fran has got another good problem of set a new record for dividends and work out how much more to give back. And is that given back through specials, is it given back through buybacks or a higher payout rate? Sorry, we didn't please you.
Matthew Frydman
analystNo. That's a very pleasing outcome. Thanks, Lawrie.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Daniel Morgan with Barrenjoey.
Daniel Morgan
analystFirst question just on Ernest Henry. Obviously, cycling down in production of that and spend stepping up. Is this just for FY '27 or is this sort of the multiyear impact of developing down to get the life extension infrastructure? And just sort of trying to understand the production and spend outlook a bit more at Ernest Henry.
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes, Dan, it's actually a combination. So as we know from the weather event when we were out of production through the March quarter and where the water ended up was down at the development level. So we've got to catch that up. We've got to put additional ventilation refrigeration. And then we do have the trucking back up to the existing materials handling system. So some of that, as we said, as we get to the second half of the year and we get the ventilation and everything in place and we can therefore lift the productivity. You'll see some of that come back through. And the other thing to note is that in FY '26 and '27 is we're going through some areas in the cave where there is no -- there's waste in with the mineralized ore. We've got to take that with us. So that is obviously displacing ore. Once we get through that zone, you then start to see it come back. So it is a combination of both of those. You'd likely see what we've got this year, we get ventilation back next year. We go a little bit deeper. So production '27 and '28 would be pretty similar, and then you start to get into it where you get Bert, you get back into more ore out of the cave. And hopefully, not long after you get Carnaby coming through. I should be calling it Great Duchess.
Daniel Morgan
analystAnd I know it is a small deal, but you've just done a deal on -- with Arizona Gold & Silver. Just trying to -- if you could maybe outline what you're trying to achieve through this investment, both the investment itself and how you've structured it .
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. So look, that's a new opportunity that Glen and the team identified. And so the area that where we've picked up with Arizona Gold & Silver, is highly prospective, but historically, it's only been considered for shallow drilling to do leaching operations. But this deposit, as we've seen some deeper drilling is certainly showing some really good grades and grades over an extended area. So that's the reason why we've sort of got interested and invested in this, and it is allowing then Arizona Gold & Silver in their drilling program. So we've farmed into it via just under 10% of the company with some warrants to acquire more of the company. And then certainly, as the program progresses. If it proves up, we've then got the option if we want to make a decision to take out that project or take out a further percentage of it.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from James Redfern with RBC.
James Redfern
analystMost of my questions have been asked already, but maybe just maybe a question on the AISC guidance, please for FY '27. You mentioned it's based on a copper price of USD 5.72 a pound with spots around $6.60 which would indicate that maybe the AISC is flat year-on-year. Just wondering if you have any sort of sensitivities around AISC in relation to copper prices? And also, what are you seeing in terms of costs inflation in the industry outside of diesel costs? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. Sure. James, I'll hand to Fran in terms of the cost sensitivities outside of labor and diesel. But if you do look at Slide 14 in our presentation deck that we've released today is the AISC sensitivities. And so the copper price of around AUD 1,000 a tonne, therefore, about $0.30 a pound is worth $90 to $95 per ounce and every 1,000 tonnes of copper is worth about $25 to $30 an ounce. So in short, yes, if you saw the current price -- copper price sustained for the whole year, you're potentially looking at about $190 to $210 an ounce benefit, which would sort of bring you back in towards what we achieved in FY '26 and hence why -- and I do think when you look at the disruption in the copper market at the moment, we're a little bit more optimistic on the copper price and what it could do for our cash flows and AISC. Fran, do you want to touch on the cost drivers?
Frances Summerhayes
executiveYes, sure. Thanks, James. So in terms of cost drivers, obviously, our biggest cost driver being labor at 50%. We are seeing that increase around the 4.5%. And particularly pressure in Western Australia in terms of retention and absenteeism. So we're doing what we can there around employee engagement. Our next biggest part is a cost driver would be maintenance parts. And we're seeing that there's -- between about 3% and 10%, but we're focusing on our maintenance strategies and what we can do in regards to the cost pressures in maintenance. Our next cost base would be electricity at about 9%, but we're pretty much locked in there for long-term contracts and big one focusing on lower costs and lower emissions to supply electricity there. And as you mentioned, diesel, but just remind you that diesel is low for us in terms of only 2% to 3% of our cost base, and that's mainly at Mungari and Cowal. Yes. But other than that, it fits within the envelope that Lawrie quoted to the 4% to 5% and reflected in our guidance.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from David Radclyffe with Global Mining Research.
David Radclyffe
analystI thought I'd ask you a similar question to everyone else about really, I guess, the link between capital and the production outlook. Maybe using Red Lake as an example, where we've got lower production going forward, and we've got more capital. So what is the way forward here for say Red Lake. If we take this is one that we don't get as much attention, and it does feel like a little bit, but we're still sort of stuck in the past. Is there any sort of optionality being opened up here from the extra development spend this year? I know you've talked about the tailings upside that maybe just seems still incremental, given that it's still very large, very high-grade resource. And maybe if there isn't sort of a way forward in this one, is it still core to the portfolio?
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. Look, Dave, I think there's a couple of things when you look at Red Lake. So firstly, when we talked about the sustaining capital and infrastructure, this is one asset that we have allocated more sustaining capital to in terms of fleet and fixed plant. We needed to do that. And also, we have increased the sustaining mine development at the operation to make sure that we can keep the production levels at that 30,000 to 40,000 ounces per quarter over the longer term. So it is seeing that lift. But I think if you first look at their all-in sustaining year-on-year, the inflation is that biggest driver that would add about $140 to $150 an ounce and then that additional bit of sustaining capital is what's getting you to the guidance range for this year. So what we are doing is making sure we can make it more efficient and the cost level is able to reduce over time. Does it fit into the portfolio? I mean from our perspective, with the assets we've got and the projects we've got in the other operations over the next few years, having Red Lake and Mungari that are sitting there producing in the order of 320,000 to 350,000 ounces and generating cash back to the business. I think that's a perfect fit for the other 3 that are going through some high-return organic growth investment in the next 3 to 4 years.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Mitch Ryan with Jefferies.
Mitch Ryan
analystJust as Mt Rawdon process comes to an end. I think the prior closure estimate was roughly $100 million. Will the pumped hydro proposal be prioritized? What is the latest closure in rehab estimate? And is there any residual value to third-party interest in the mill or existing infrastructure there? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. Fran will talk you through the closure. I mean, from our perspective, at the metal prices, if they were to sustain or go higher, there's certainly a potential for a cutback, but we think that would be beneficial for someone else possibly. So there's nothing much in the way what we're considering for the operation will move into care and maintenance through this year as the priority right now, Fran?
Frances Summerhayes
executiveYes. So Mitch, in terms of the balance sheet, we always took a conservative approach with Mt Rawdon as if the pumped hydro would not go ahead. So the provision is sitting around $75 million discounted on the balance sheet. And that's a spend profile out to about 2044 with the majority of the capital plan spend is in the first 10 years, and you see that start to kick up in about 2030.
Mitch Ryan
analystSo, a rounding error. Okay.
Lawrie Conway
executiveThat's definitely a Jake rounding error Mitch.
Mitch Ryan
analystAnd just after the weather event at Ernest Henry, can you provide an update, do you have any expected insurance recoveries there? And what sort of the process is on receiving those if you do.
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. Look, so we do have insurance at the operation. And as with the 2023, we did receive insurance proceeds on that. In terms of this incident, same thing does exist in terms of the insurance coverage for some of the mobile fleet that was damaged or destroyed during the event that's covered and we're already getting replacement equipment in. In terms of the cost of recovery and remediation we're working through that now, and that will then go to the insurers. And so through FY '27 is when we'd see the outcomes of that claim. .
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Hugo Nicolaci with Goldman Sachs.
Hugo Nicolaci
analystI know you've got site visits coming up, so I'll hold off recycling my question on the upside at Cowal. But maybe looking at Red Lake and building on David's question, just does look like we're sort of reset a little bit further at sort of 30,000 to 35,000 ounces a quarter from closer to 40,000. Are you able to just talk through a bit more detail just sort of some of those moving pieces and based on the potential study outcomes. Could we see that creep back up? Or is the study more focused on maintaining that lower rate from here?
Lawrie Conway
executiveHugo. So yes, when you look at it this year, next year, it's more towards the 30,000 to 35,000 because of where we are. And as we said in the second half of this year, we accessed some new mine areas at Red Lake. And then when you look beyond the next couple of years, the work around the tails reprocessing and also some areas that we're putting some exploration dollars into about bringing that into is aimed at getting it to the 35,000 to 40,000 ounce per quarter and above that. And that's really what the current life of mine plan is showing and I think when you look at Red Lake, 3 mining areas, it just doesn't have a lot of, I guess, excess capacity or mine areas as some of the other operations have. And so we've got to work a little bit harder to get that back up at the 35,000 to 40,000.
Hugo Nicolaci
analystGreat. That's helpful. And maybe one for Fran, just on the balance sheet, is a 10% to 15% long-term gearing ratio is still what you're running with here? Or do you now potentially with the CapEx coming up, look to maintain a more conservative balance sheet near term? .
Frances Summerhayes
executiveWell, over the long term and with the cycles, yes, we're still carrying the 10% to 15% net debt. But I'll also note, we are prepared to go outside of that for high-value options. So like we did say in '23, we're at 33% net debt. And then, obviously, within the 3 years, we're able to get into a net cash position with the higher metal prices. But yes, Hugo, it's 10% to 15%.
Hugo Nicolaci
analystGreat. And then just one more. Obviously, a lot of positives and things to look forward to, as you've reiterated today, just maybe the other side of the ledger, is there anything that concerns you in the near-term outlook? Is that underground performance or maybe things like labor availability? And if so, do you see any regions presenting particular issues at the moment? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveNo. I think if we look at it, Hugo, we're always alert to what can happen on the downside. But where we sort of sit across the business, we want to continue the consistency that we had over the last couple of years and do that through '27 because if the metal prices stay where they are today. We want to make sure that we get that cash and can reward our shareholders. There's plenty of things that are keeping Matt, Nancy, Fran and the site GMs awake, but it's all part of being in the mining industry.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Adam Baker with Macquarie.
Adam Baker
analystJust one on the production guidance. I mean you mentioned it's weighted to the second half of the year. Just wondering if you can give us an approximate breakdown? Are we looking at a 48-52 split or what sort of quantum we're looking at there. And noting your opening remarks were indicating 160,000 to 166,000 ounces for gold. So looks like September quarter is going to be your seasonally weakest of the year.
Lawrie Conway
executiveThat's correct, Adam. If we get the 160,000 to 166,000, then the other 3 quarters are going to be better than that. It goes to the 2 shutdowns quarters, which are the September and March quarters. And as we said, the second half is as we get access more in the underground at Cowal, a split. I'm not sort of going to get caught into that because there will be ups and downs. Our outlook is over the year. We'll deliver the 660,000 to 730,000 and the copper.
Adam Baker
analystThat's good. And just secondly on the balance sheet, in very, very good shape here. You've got undrawn $525 million revolver, no U.S. private placement repayments till FY '29. What further optimizations could we be doing from here over the next 12 months? .
Frances Summerhayes
executiveYes. I think over the next 12 months, it's really just delivering on our commitment that we're making in our FY '27 guidance range is there. Obviously, the $70 million to $90 million call-out from Lawrie in regards to study and growth to see if we can allocate our capital to high-returning investments. And then other than that, as I said, if we bank the upside of higher gold and copper prices, we don't want to carry and don't see value holding large amounts on the balance sheet. So we'll look to reallocate that out to shareholders.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from David Coates with Bell Potter.
David Coates
analystThis has been covered a little bit, but just back to Slide 4, which sort of lays out the kind of capital allocation as it's turned out for FY '26. Should we kind of -- it sounds like we should sort of see that as a bit of a template going forward sort of shareholder returns is like a top priority and then the balance kind of flexing between organic growth and accretive deals. Does that kind of fit with how you guys think about the capital allocation outlook? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveDave, I think, as I said earlier on the call, what we've got to be able to demonstrate, and I think we have demonstrated is that we can work in all those 3 areas to get returns for our shareholders, and it does depend on what's happening at the time. And I look at Northparkes as the example, in 2023, we couldn't control the timing of when CMOC decided they wanted to exit. If something comes up in the next 12 months, and it's something that Kiernan and the team says to the Board and I that this is something we should bring in the portfolio. We'll go into that area. If there isn't, then we'll continue to invest in the organic growth. But I'll go back to the earlier thing that we're investing in that $1.1 billion right now. Yes, we're allocating a couple of hundred million dollars more if metal prices stay where they are for last year, shareholders are still going to be getting somewhere around the $800 million to $850 million back. That's -- what we're trying to say is that we work in all 3 areas. It depends on what's happening at the time, but we don't just focus on one of them. And our balance sheet, we're very comfortable and confident that it will meet the requirements of all 3.
David Coates
analystIt's in a very flexible position at the moment. No doubt about that. And then secondly, sort of more micro kind of question, Red Lake, really strong improvement year-on-year. Obviously, gold prices helped out. What are the operational changes. What's that have enabled that improvement? .
Lawrie Conway
executiveLook, there's a number. We did have a KPI I'm not getting many questions on Red Lake. But I think this year's guidance is going to draw some attention. But essentially, the key things that changed there, Dave, is with a number of the areas that we're mining, we had to change the mix to get a good balance between some selective mining and bulk mining. And by having done that, by having changed out some of the fleet there and the workforce buy-in to that mine plan has enabled us to really get that improved reliability. In terms of then the cost structure, it was around standardizing rosters, it was around being able to move people and equipment between the 3 mines. It was certainly around lifting when the productivity lifted, get the cost base down everyone started to participate in the quarterly performance bonus. Once they got that, they never wanted to go back to no bonuses. So that helped in terms of cost discipline and productivity. It's been a whole mix of things there at Red Lake. The only thing I'd say is that it compared to all the other assets, it's one you can't -- you just can't stop I explained it to Rocky, it's like riding up the hill. The minute you stop pedaling, you'll be back down the bottom. Probably not a good analogy for Rocky who got hit by a car on a bike last week, but it's...
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Zane Guo with JPM.
Zane Guo
analystJust following up on the all-in sustaining cost, understand that diesel price is only 3% of the cost, but nevertheless, keen to understand what diesel price you've assumed for FY '27. And just so on the 3% to 10% inflation on maintenance parts called out by Fran earlier, are you seeing similar cost pressures across your growth CapEx spend?
Lawrie Conway
executiveOn the growth CapEx, no. I mean all of our projects are on the budget. We knew when we approved the project, there'd be some cost escalation and we've allowed for that, and we're not outside that range. In terms of diesel, look, it's somewhere in between what it spiked to when the situation first started and then where it sort of got back down to when tensions are eased for a period. But in terms -- as I said, and you mentioned that it's not a material cost for us when we look at it, the main users are at Mungari and Cowal in the open pit.
Zane Guo
analystYes, understood. And just a follow-up on Red Lake. What's the latest thinking around reprocessing the tails? And I guess, what are the hurdles you need to see to sanction the project and potential time lines?
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. So look, it's -- over the next 12 to 18 months, we'll finish that work. We've got drilling going on. We've got the study happening and then what we're going to look at is which -- we've got 3 plants there, which is going to be the best way to put that through, and then you've got the permitting. So you are talking at least 2.5, 3 years before you see anything coming through on that one.
Operator
operatorWe have a follow-up question from Kate McCutcheon with Bank of America.
Kate McCutcheon
analystI just wanted to see if Rocky is okay after that. But no, I do have a question on Cowal. So you've noted that back-end uplift in production with the second decline there. You did 2.4 million tonnes last year, annualized the last quarter at 2.77 million. What does your mine plan at Cowal, how have you annualizing in 2H? Or how do we think about a step-up in those underground tonnes with the second decline or does something offset with base positions of the decline that you got?
Lawrie Conway
executiveYes. So Kate, good call out on Rocky. In terms of the Cowal underground, what you'll see in the second half is that we then have that capacity to go above the 2.4 million tonne annualized rate I think when you look at FY '26, we did have some easier areas to access and therefore, we're able to get some productivity. And we were going through a change in mining contractor there. So we did have two contractors working on the site in the June quarter as that transition happened. So that gave us a lift up there as well. So as we go into the second half of the year, you get that capacity to go above 2.4 million targeting somewhere between 2.4 million and 2.6 million And then looking through the course of this year, what could we go beyond FY '27. And I think when we get to September with the investor update and the site visit and looking at Glenn's plans on the exploration, that's when you'll get a sort of, I think a better insight as to what we're thinking about in terms of the underground there.
Operator
operatorThere are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to Mr. Conway for any closing remarks.
Lawrie Conway
executiveThank you, Darcy. Thank you, everyone, for your time today. I really do appreciate your interest in asking Fran what she's doing with all the cash and why she's spending so much capital on high returning projects that we've got in train. Do look forward to catching up with you who are attending our investor briefing and site visits at Northparkes next month. Thank you again for your time.
Operator
operatorThank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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