Exco Technologies Limited (XTC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 30, 2025

Toronto Stock Exchange CA Consumer Discretionary Automobile Components earnings 24 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Exco Technologies Limited First Quarter Results 2025 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Darren Kirk, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Darren Kirk

executive
#2

Thank you, Marvin, and good morning, all participants. Welcome to Exco Technologies Fiscal 2025 First Quarter Conference Call. I will start with an operations overview, followed by Matthew Posno, our CFO, who will review the financial aspects of the quarter, after which we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone of the cautionary notes in yesterday's news release and on Page 2 of the presentation we posted to our website. These notes are applicable to our discussion today. Our first quarter of fiscal 2025 clearly presented challenges, primarily due to several headwinds, particularly lower automotive production levels. In the U.S., overall production declined by approximately 3%, with some key customers experiencing substantial drops, leading to varied performance across OEMs. In Europe, production volumes decreased by over 10%. Additionally, we faced continued delays in the launch of new programs and certain customers focused on rightsizing inventory levels of some of our accessory products and consumable tooling components. Despite these headwinds, we remain confident in our long-term strategy. Evidenced by strong quoting activity and new program awards, the demand for our products remain strong, and we benefit from secular trends such as increasing use of aluminum across many industries and the growth of OEM vehicle accessories. We continue to focus on operational efficiency, driving innovation and leveraging our recent strategic investments to capitalize on these trends and achieve growth in revenue and profitability, in line with our previously stated targets. It is important to highlight that despite relatively high transaction prices, consumer vehicle sales in the U.S. remain fairly robust with an annualized sales rate of around 16 million units. OEMs are increasing incentives as needed to stimulate demand. And after production declines in the last quarter, dealer inventory levels are now much healthier. This, of course, bodes well for more stable production levels in future quarters. In our Automotive Solutions segment, our sales decline outpaced the reduction in vehicle production volumes due to ongoing customer-driven delays in certain program launches and unfavorable vehicle mix and a pullback in accessory sales as customer inventory levels were reduced. Looking ahead, vehicle production volumes are expected to be flat to slightly down in calendar 2025. While consumer demand is undoubtedly stretched and vehicle affordability remains a hurdle, lower inventory -- lower interest rates and increased OEM incentives are expected to stimulate demand. Historically, we have outpaced industry production growth, achieving content per vehicle growth of 5% to 10% over time. In this regard, our launch pipeline, quoting activity and new product development remains particularly robust for the second half of this fiscal year. On the cost side, margins were compressed this quarter due to lower overhead absorption from weaker volumes and unfavorable product mix, higher labor costs and severance expenses related to workforce reductions. The unbalanced loads on our plants driven by high variability of volumes across our various programs added to the margin pressure. To mitigate these challenges, we are implementing various measures, including automation, Headcount reductions were feasible, exiting less profitable programs, deferring cost downs and targeting price increases. Our segment margins will also benefit as some of our older lower-margin programs phase out and newer, more profitable programs ramp up. I'm also pleased to report that during the quarter, we successfully completed our annual negotiations with our Mexican labor unions at levels consistent with our budgeted expectations. Turning to our Casting and Extrusion segment. Demand for new high-pressure die cast molds, rebuilds and additively printed inserts remain decent throughout the quarter, though some large ticket deliveries were deferred by customers into early Q2. Demand for consumables die cast components softened with the decline in production volumes as well as a modest level of destocking, which is a typical temporary response with OEM production declines. EV adoption continues to progress at a slow pace, while hybrid vehicle adoption is growing steadily, and it is evident that the internal combustion engine will remain a key part of the market for the foreseeable future. As a result, the growth in additional giga-presses, which we expect will be used extensively in EV manufacturing has been delayed, though it is clearly evident more and more giga-presses will be used in the North American market over time. However, I want to emphasize that Exco remains largely agnostic to powertrain types. As the broader industry shifts toward increased aluminum usage, it will support sustained demand for our products in the years ahead. Demand for consumable extrusion tooling weakened across most regions and end markets through the quarter with much lower demand in the month of December as extruders extended planned shutdowns over holiday period to consolidate employee vacation days. Capital equipment sales within the extrusion sector, however, remained relatively stable as extruders continue to focus on productivity and efficiency improvements, an area where our Castool operations excel. Margins in our Casting and Extrusion segment improved slightly year-over-year but declined sequentially from recent quarters as overhead absorption suffered with weaker sales in December. And we incurred higher costs and disruption from outsourcing activity associated with new heat treat equipment installation at our largest extrusion die facility. We remain focused on achieving greater scale and efficiency benefits from our recent capital investments. And despite challenging market conditions, we did see progress on a number of fronts this quarter. In particular, Castool's facility in Mexico continues to accelerate its ramp. Our various heat treat operations are performing extremely well. And our Halex operations in Europe outperformed market conditions there, contributing year-over-year improvements to profitability. We remain confident in our outlook for higher segment margins through 2026 as our greenfield investments mature, our recent capacity expansions are utilized and ongoing efficiency initiatives take hold. Lastly, the global trade landscape continues to evolve with discussions around potential increases in U.S. tariffs, once again making headlines. Generally, we believe Exco is well positioned to navigate these potential changes and could even benefit if tariffs on Chinese imports increase given that we source very little from this region and China is a significant competitor. However, any impact -- the impact of any broad-based tariff measures on goods imported into the U.S. from Mexico or Canada would be far more challenging for the auto supply industry, including Exco. That said, we view implementation of broad-based and sustained tariffs as relatively low, given the highly integrated nature of the North American auto supply chain and the significant cost implication where U.S. consumers should such tariffs be implemented. That concludes my prepared remarks. I would like to thank all of my Exco teammates for their tremendous efforts, their commitment to innovation and their focus on maintaining a safe work environment at all times. I will now pass the call over to Matthew to discuss the financial highlights.

Matthew Posno

executive
#3

Thank you, Darren. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Consolidated sales for the first quarter ended December 31, 2024, were $143.6 million compared to $156.7 million in the same quarter last year, a decrease of $13 million or 8%. Foreign exchange rate movements increased sales $4 million for the quarter, primarily due to the strengthening U.S. dollar compared to the Canadian dollar. Consolidated net income for the first quarter was $4.2 million or basic and diluted earnings per share of $0.11 compared to $5.6 million or $0.15 per share in the same quarter last year. The consolidated effective tax -- income tax rate for the current quarter was 35.8% compared to 23.6% for the prior year period. The change in income tax rate in the quarter was impacted by geographic distribution, foreign tax rate differentials and losses that cannot be affected for accounting purposes at this time. The Automotive Solutions segment reported sales of $72.1 million in the first quarter, a decrease of $10.9 million or 13% from the same quarter last year. Foreign exchange rate changes increased sales by $2.4 million. The sales decrease was driven by lower automotive production volumes in North America and Europe, customer-driven delays in certain program launches, unfavorable vehicle mix, extended OEM customer plant shutdowns during the month of December and destocking of certain accessory products in the inventory channel. Overall, industry vehicle production was down an estimated 3% in North America and 13% in Europe versus the prior year quarter. Production volumes decreased in response to rising dealer inventory levels in North America. European production volumes declined in response to lower consumer sales as well as to reduced inventory levels as OEMs clear up cars that don't comply with new mandates. Exco's sales volumes will benefit from recent future program launches that are expected to provide ongoing growth in our content per vehicle. Quoting activity remains encouraging, and we believe there is ample opportunity to achieve our targeted growth objectives. First quarter pretax earnings in the Automotive Solutions segment totaled $4.8 million in the quarter, a decrease of $3.4 million or 41% over the same quarter last year. The negative variance in the first quarter was due to the lower sales, adverse product and vehicle mix shifts and rising labor costs in all jurisdictions. Labor costs in Mexico have been particularly challenging in recent years and we are seeing added pressure given the significant rise in wages. Apart from these specific impacts, management is cautiously optimistic that its overall cost structure should improve margins as production volumes are expected to rebound to match vehicle sales figures in the future. Pricing discipline remains a focus and action is being taken where possible, especially on new programs that are priced to reflect management's expectations for future -- higher future costs. The Casting and Extrusion segment reported sales of $71.4 million in the quarter, a decrease of $2.2 million or 3% from the same period last year. Foreign exchange rate changes increased sales by $2 million. Demand for extrusion tooling declined marginally in the quarter as the continued impact of higher interest rates and recessionary conditions in certain end markets such as building and construction and recreational vehicles caused an overall reduction in demand from extruders. Demand for certain capital equipment sold by Castool within the extrusion market such as containers and die ovens, was relatively stable as Extruders focus on various efficiency and sustainability initiatives. Exco's management remains focused on standardizing manufacturing processes, enhancing engineering depth, centralizing critical support functions and on developing and the benefits of its new locations in Morocco and Mexico, which provide the opportunity to expand market share in Europe and Latin America through better proximity to local customers. These initiatives have reduced lead times and enhanced product quality, expanded product breadth and increase capacity contributing to market share gains. In the die cast market, demand was softer for new moulds, associated consumable tooling and rebuild work. Demand for Exco's additive 3D printed tooling continued its strong contribution as customers focus on greater efficiency with the size and complexity of die-cast tooling continue to increase, helped by the rising adoption of giga-presses. Sales in the quarter were partially supported by price increases, which were implemented to protect margins from higher input costs. Quoting activity remains very encouraging, and our backlog for die cast molds remains healthy, though it is off recent highs. First quarter pretax earnings in the Casting Extrusion segment was $3.7 million, an increase of $200,000 or 4% from the same quarter last year. The pretax profit improvement is due largely to program pricing improvements, favorable product mix and efficiency initiatives across the segment, including the ongoing use of lean manufacturing and automation to improve productivity through standardization and waste elimination as well as foreign exchange rate gains from the balance sheet impact. In addition, volumes at Castool's heat treatment operation continue to increase, providing savings and improved productivity -- production quality while efficiency initiatives at Halex are progressing. Offsetting these cost improvements were losses at Castool's greenfield operations and a slight increase in segment depreciation. In addition, volumes were uneven through the quarter with levels of activity in December being lower than normal as customers extended plant shutdowns through the holiday period in response to weaker market conditions. Management remains focused on reducing its overall cost structure and improving manufacturing efficiencies but expect such activities together with its sale efforts shouldn't lead to improved segment profitability over time. Exco generated cash from operating activities of $10.4 million during the quarter and $3.8 million of free cash flow after $5.2 million of maintenance fixed asset expenditures. This free cash flow, together with the company's cash balances was used to fund fixed assets for growth initiatives of $2.5 million, $4.1 million of dividends and $157,000 to repurchase shares under a normal course issuer bid. It's worth noting that we also reduced our long-term debt levels by $10 million with surplus cash generated in the last quarter. Exco ended the quarter with $19 million of cash, $96 million in bank and long-term debt and $56 million availability on its credit facility. Exco's financial position remains strong. As such, the company's balance sheet and availability on the existing credit facility provides continued support for our strategic initiatives. Our strong financial position, combined with our free cash flow, creates a foundation for management to pursue high-value growth capital expenditures, dividends and other opportunities that may arise. That concludes my comments, Marvin. We can now transition to the Q&A portion of the call.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Nick Corcoran of Acumen Capital.

Nick Corcoran

analyst
#5

Just the first one for me. You maintained your 2026 fiscal targets. I'm just wondering has your view on how you get the timing change at all?

Darren Kirk

executive
#6

Nick, it's Darren here. We obviously had a softer quarter here, but we do remain firm in our outlook for 2026. This quarter, obviously, was impacted by some production dislocations at the OEMs together with extended plant shutdowns in December, and it's not a typical quarter in many regards. . So we -- obviously, it becomes a more aggressive target in the 2026 time line to hit at this point. But our path to getting there remains the same. We are focused on filling out the capacity that we built with these new greenfield plants and improving the margin of our Halex operations, on the casting and extrusion side. And we continue to push on the accessory sales on the Automotive Solutions side to get that margin close to 20%. So our target for 2026 remains the same.

Nick Corcoran

analyst
#7

That's helpful. And it might be a little early in the quarter, but any indication how the second quarter has been relative to the first?

Darren Kirk

executive
#8

It's a little early, but the signs that we've seen in January are much more normal. December was a pretty abnormal month across the board. So...

Matthew Posno

executive
#9

There's many more shipping days in our second quarter, which is also a good support.

Darren Kirk

executive
#10

And as I mentioned, some of the softness in the first quarter was due to the customer-driven delays on some big ticket items in the Large Mould group. So we'll get the benefit of that early in the second quarter here.

Nick Corcoran

analyst
#11

That's helpful. And the last question for me. How do you see M&A being part of your -- hitting your fiscal targets? And has the pipeline changed at all?

Darren Kirk

executive
#12

So the pipeline has not really changed. We continue to be on the lookout for acquisitions of similar niche type businesses. It is not part of the formula for our 2026 target.

Operator

operator
#13

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Adam Schneider of Cormark Securities.

Adam Schneider

analyst
#14

My first question is, given the minimum wage in Mexico -- given that the minimum wage in Mexico has gone up another 12% this year, what is your ability to offset the continued minimum wage increases in this geography to get ahead of it?

Darren Kirk

executive
#15

Sure. Adam, it's Darren here. Yes, I mean that minimum wage increase in Mexico, not just this year, but the cumulative effect since really the last 5 years has been very significant. We had the added pressure of a stronger peso up until very recently, and the peso has pulled back some, which is helpful. But we are very focused on improving our labor efficiency and that has resulted in some pretty sizable headcount reductions and that's been helpful. And we are really looking to automation as an ability to sustain further reductions in the labor intensity, which is clearly required. And on top of that, for any new program, quoting activity, we certainly embed the view that wages will be sustained at a higher level.

Adam Schneider

analyst
#16

Okay. Great. Just moving on to your 2026 guidance. I just had a question about what a production level are you building into that since recent IHS forecasts have it flat fleshed out?

Darren Kirk

executive
#17

Yes. Production level, we're not anticipating production levels are going to increase or materially decrease from here. We set that target in place when the U.S. SAAR was kind of around 15.5 million, 16 million units. And that's essentially where it is at today, implying a similar production level to where we're at.

Adam Schneider

analyst
#18

Okay. Great. And then just one more question on the topic du jour tariffs. How do you see tariffs impacting your ability to reach your 2026 guidance?

Darren Kirk

executive
#19

It's a good question and a difficult one given the uncertain nature of tariffs. We've kind of gone through the scenario analysis internally, what we would do in response to these tariffs. I think at the extreme, if there was a 25% broad-based tariff applied to Mexico and Canada for any product going into the U.S., that would obviously be catastrophic for the industry and a very challenging situation, although I think it would be pretty short-lived given the chaos that it would cause. I mean that the 2026 target implies no tariffs. I think our view is that to the extent that there are tariffs, it is unlikely to be placed on the supplier components. The compounding impact of effective tariffs for products going back and forth order many times would significantly magnify the cost of building these cars and they would become unsellable. So obviously, anything is possible in the short term, but I expect that common sense will ultimately prevail.

Operator

operator
#20

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Darren Kirk for closing remarks.

Darren Kirk

executive
#21

Thanks, Marvin, and thanks, all participants today. We look forward to talking to you again after our second quarter results are released.

Operator

operator
#22

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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