Exelixis, Inc. (EXEL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 23, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 29 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#1

Hi. My name is Ted Tenthoff. I'm a senior biotechnology analyst at Piper Sandler. And welcome to Piper Sandler's Virtual Healthcare Conference. CABOMETYX is still the #1 prescribed TKI for kidney cancer and also approved in liver cancer. Exelixis and Bristol-Myers have a PDUFA date of February 20 for cabo plus nivo in frontline RCC based on positive CheckMate 9ER data. And now the company is conducting multiple Phase III trials in combination with checkpoints to really become competitive in the frontline setting. Here with us today is Mike Morrissey, President and CEO. Mike, Great to see you.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#2

Ted, how are you, man? You look great.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#3

Thanks. I'm a little ghosty. But other than that, I think we'll get through this.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#4

It's a great...

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#5

I know it's been a tricky year for the market just in general due to COVID. Kidney cancer TKIs and cabo are declining over year, but that said, cabo's really retained its strong position and is still the #1 TKI. You always have such a great insight. Maybe you can provide us on up to date, current state of the kidney cancer market.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#6

I will be happy to, and hi, everybody. Thanks, Ted, for having us on today. Great to be back. These are always great meetings for us. This is the end-of-the-year meeting that we normally do with Piper after the holidays. So it's unfortunate that we're doing this virtually this year, but hope to see you live again next year, okay? For sure.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#7

Absolutely.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#8

Anyway, I'll be -- let me -- before I answer your question, let me just state that I'll be making forward-looking statements today. So please see our SEC filings for a description of the risks that we face in our business. So let's talk about the kidney cancer market. Obviously, there's a lot going on in the world today. The pandemic -- the global pandemic has really had an impact on the macro level in terms of the health care system. On the micro level, I think, we saw that pretty consistently across the board with third quarter earnings across various companies that reported in the oncology space. If you look at the numbers, in general, visits are down, billing is down, diagnoses are down. So as you would sort of expect, intuitively, the pandemic and the sheltering and the whole environment around trying to avoid connection -- contact with people who might be infected has had an impact on the whole health care system. So we've talked about this in terms of its impact with kidney cancer over the last several earnings calls in Q2 and Q3. The entire market basket is down right now, and we're certainly part of that. As you said, our market share overall in kidney cancer is stable and has been stable all year. So as we talked about back in January, 2020 was really a transitional year for us. We expected revenues to be flat. Obviously, we didn't know about COVID back in December and January. And it's been -- for everybody else, including us, it's been a challenging year around the idea that you want to keep your business growing and thriving and working on all cylinders in the middle of this global pandemic, which impacts every aspect of our business to a certain degree. So we're pleased with that. Obviously, the big driver for us at the beginning of the year was the 9ER result that we didn't know back in January. Obviously, the top line data in April and then the full data review -- our presentation at ESMO in September, I think, really frames the story really well going into 2021. On our Q3 call, we gave kind of a number for what that could look like in terms of our 2022 exit run rate of $1.5 billion per year for RCC. So we're excited about the data. I'm sure we'll talk more about that. Excited about the portfolio of things we're doing within cabo for RCC and other indications. And our investment then in other assets, 092, early-stage assets, that we think we can continue to push forward to really drive value creation.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#9

Yes, I agree. It implies -- you're implying that you'll double the cabo business over the next couple of years, which is exciting. And I agree with you. I think this is a reset year and you're really exiting 2020 accelerating in a strong position. You've long stated that your goal is really to move to frontline setting. So I figure let's go through those kind of one step at a time. You mentioned 9ER data. I mean, really remarkable data. Maybe you can just walk us back through that data, and then we'll touch on sort of filing and commercial plans.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#10

Yes, absolutely. So kind of top line summary from ESMO, a doubling of PFS, doubling of response rates, strong survival signal. Again, the trifecta of activity when you look at cabo -- at the cabo/nivo doublet versus sunitinib, long duration of response. Again, most patients are responding. So still, we're seeing what appears to be very strong activity. As I mentioned back in April and have spoken about since, we're using the 40-milligram cabo starting dose. So we take a little bit off from the 60-milligram single dose -- single agent starting dose down to 40, with the idea that a little bit lower dose would still have good activity, but would allow us to maintain patients on drug with better tolerability. And that's what we saw. And we've seen that now in renal, in the prostate data that we presented, some of the liver data we've presented at ASCO in GI and in ASCO with [ frivolous ] lung and bladder, where we're seeing, I think, very good tolerability, low discount rates, good overall activity profile with that cabo I/O combination. Certainly in the case of 9ER, that was the case as well. Totality of that data seemed to drive an improvement in quality of life scores relative to sunitinib as well, which is very reassuring. So everything is going in the right direction across, if you look at the forest plot, across all the different subgroups, all the different ways you can slice and dice that data. So we're super excited. A lot of KOLs talked about this being best-in-class data. So we think we're in a great spot with the data, with a strong team. We filed -- as you mentioned, we have a PDUFA date now for February 20. So we're locked and loaded and really ready to go. The team is super excited. We're -- we've done a lot of market research. We have our message testing done. So it's just a matter of now getting the approval and getting ready to go out there.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#11

So tell us a little bit about some of that commercial prep because it's already a drug that physicians are very comfortable using. What are some of the steps that go into just educating people about the frontline data and the frontline utilization?

Michael Morrissey

executive
#12

Yes. So again, I think what you said is correct. This isn't a new molecule coming out of the scene. In fact, until recently, cabo and nivo, individually, as single agents, were the mainstay for kidney cancer for years and years and years. So there's a very good familiarity with the compound, lots of success with the individual compounds of single agents that I think gets people very comfortable with the data. And in our market research, we've had very strong feedback on the quality of data, the quality of the PFS extension, the doubling of PFS, the doubling of the response rate. Obviously, survival data was key here since that's the ultimate gauge of success with these patients. So yes, so we've got all of our -- all that work done. The team is trained and launch ready. So we're just excited to be able to be in the spot now where we're ready to go. So it's...

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#13

It's going to be an exciting year for you guys. So remind us what are your partners, Ipsen in Europe and Takeda in Japan, are doing for regulatory approval. We've seen steadily that royalties have been growing. And I think there's a real opportunity for them to move in the frontline.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#14

Absolutely. Yes. Both groups have filed, Ipsen in Europe, Takeda in Japan, a couple other countries have already been filed on too, by Ipsen. So we're really excited about what we're seeing in terms of our cabo partners, commercial partners being kind of in that zone where they're filing, they're starting to take regulatory questions and feedback, but getting the zone to be able to, again, at the appropriate time, launch based upon approval that will come later. So again, cabo is a $1 billion global brand. That's super exciting. We think we're just starting. It's just the foundation of where we can take this and how we can build this going forward by having more activity, more patients potentially in renal and liver and prostate and lung. So we feel like this is the year where we do a lot of the blocking and tackling to set us up for success in '21, '22 and beyond.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#15

Makes a lot of sense. Now Mike, so I think I'm maybe going a little bit out of order here, but the second Phase III trial that's in the first-line RCC is COSMIC-313, which is Opdivo and Yervoy, which has been approved in frontline, then adding or not including cabo. What do you hope to show with that study? And how could that further expand the label?

Michael Morrissey

executive
#16

So the 313 study is really asking a very -- I think a very simple, elegant question, right? And Toni Choueiri, who's the lead investigator from Dana-Farber, had the idea that taking the best of both worlds and combining them in terms of I/O-I/O and the potentially best-in-class I/O-TKI would potentially work in a manner that could really lift the bar in terms of standard of care. When you think about the 214 data in terms of some of the early results back at ESMO in 2017, where the patients that had the most benefit were in the PD-L1 positive population, the ITT population looked good. Over time, you see the tail kind of rise in terms of longer duration of both survival and treatment-free survival. So the idea was that could adding cabo, on top of that doublet, address some of the patients that don't do as well. PFS is about 12 months. So half the patients progressed relatively quickly. Could you, by bringing cabo in, address some of those early resistance pathways that could be operational in those patients? So very simple, I think, set of questions. I think it's a very elegant study design. Based upon the enrollment that we've seen to date, there's just a lot of enthusiasm for that trial. It's enrolled rapidly in 2020, even in the face of this global pandemic, which has shut a lot of things down and people down. This is enrolled extremely well, right? So we're certainly encouraged by that just the interest in the overall study. And obviously, we have to get the data and see how that looks. But based upon the success of 9ER, we're even further encouraged by the fact of what the 40-milligram dose could do on top of ipi/nivo in terms of bringing benefit to patients and kind of raising the bar for standard of care.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#17

And I think we could get data on that one early next year, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Michael Morrissey

executive
#18

That's not an early 2021 event. No, probably late '21, early '22. I mean it's...

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#19

Okay, cool. I'm glad you clarified that. Now the other trial that you're working right now is cabo plus TECENTRIQ. I think this is COSMIC-312 in frontline liver cancer. So tell us a little bit about that indication and really how I/O-TKI is changing treatment of liver cancer? And when can we get data from that study?

Michael Morrissey

executive
#20

Yes. So 312 is, again, as you said, it's cabo, atezo in the frontline studying versus sorafenib. Very similar to the IMbrave study that looked at bev/atezo versus sorafenib that read out positive for, again, response rate, PFS, overall survival. And it was approved in this summer in the U.S. and now being approved really around the world. It really changed the entire dynamic. It's the first I/O regimen that showed success in beating sorafenib head-to-head. And that was a really important first step. And it's really starting to dominate the first-line setting. So the 312 study is very similar to the IMbrave study, except we basically replaced bevacizumab, Avastin, with cabo. And again, it's -- in my mind, it's a great and potential enhancement. Cabo has single-agent activity in liver cancer survival benefit from the CELESTIAL study. We've seen, I think, really interesting data, say, cabo combined with other I/Os as well in liver cancer in a mixed first-line, second-line population that we talked about back at ASCO GI earlier in the year. So we're very excited about that trial. We think it's -- again, it's probably that indication. Liver cancer is probably one of the more underserved indications in all of oncology, just due to the fact that there haven't really been a lot of new drugs and newly effective drugs that have been introduced over the last decade or so. So we're excited about that. And again, based upon all the data that's out there, we think we're really encouraged by what we could see, absolutely have to do the experiment, have to see the top line data, but we're excited about having that kind of on the horizon. So that -- again, that fully enrolled this year. Again, middle of COVID, lots of challenges there, but the team did a great job in making sure we got that done on time and got drug to patients and tracked their progress, et cetera. We had initially planned, based upon our event modeling work, to expect to see that readout this year. But events have come in slower, which happens sometimes when we modeled. So we think that will be a first half 2021 event. So we're tracking events. We'll have more clarity on that as time goes on, but we're very excited about that and certainly very interested to see how this compares when we see the data.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#21

And you can see how everything is teeing up for next year. One of the other studies is looking at cabo in differentiated thyroid cancer. It's already approved in medullary thyroid cancer. Obviously, a smaller indication here, but I think we could get a first interim look by year-end. So maybe just a quick comment on that study and that opportunity.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#22

Yes. So it's -- that's the COSMIC-311 trial. That's looking at single agent, cabo versus placebo, in second-line patients who progressed on a first TKI. It's a trial. It's kind of a trial within a trial design. The first look at data is for the first 100 patients looking at response rates for the 2 arms. If that's successful, we -- based on feedback with the agency, we can file on that. If not, we go to the full 300 patients looking at PFS. So -- but again, we've guided to expect to have the response rate readout for the first 100 patients in Q4 of 2020. So we hope to see that over the next month or so.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#23

Awesome. Looking forward to it. So I'm going to switch gears here a little bit because I remember back when you started COSMIC-021, which is a Phase II study. This study just sounded like such a good idea to me to really cast the net wide to see where you were going to be able to combine cabo and atezo and get the best bang for the buck. And so many of these label expansions that we're talking about have really emerged from that. So the one I'm going to start with is cohort 6, which is in prostate cancer. Again, I know you for a long, long time, Mike, and I know, coming back to prostate cancer probably means a lot. And again, I think you're going to be able to actually file next year based on cohort 6. So maybe catch us up on all of that. You're also conducting CONTACT-01, which is a Phase III study. So tell us what's the latest in prostate cancer.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#24

Yes. So it's -- we could spend an hour on 021 in prostate cancer and what we've learned from that and how we're moving forward. The 021 trial has been just an incredible opportunity to profile cabo/atezo across a wide variety of indications, have the flexibility to kind of follow the data, add patients where we see compelling activity early on, publish that as we have now numerous times for different cohorts. Prostate, as you know, I'm sure everybody knows, we had a lot of prior efforts there back in the 2012, 2013 time frame when I first took over as CEO. We've learned a lot from that experience and from the COMET studies. And I think what we did in the context of 021 in cohort 6 was really designed a better set of experiments based upon what we learned from the COMET experience and how to ask really a better set of questions, right? So looking at patients with only measurable disease by RECIST 1.1, we took the response assessment question and drama from the COMETs completely out of the equation. We're using both clinically and, I would say, regulatorily relevant and meaningful response assessment criteria. So there's no debate. A response is a response. We're using RECIST 1.1, no issue. We've learned a lot about dosing as well, obviously. And that was one of the big issues back with COMET-1, was we had these elderly, heavily pretreated frail patients who just couldn't tolerate significant dose.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#25

Heavy dose, yes.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#26

And now we're using the 40-milligram dose, which we've seen across the board, has much better tolerability when combined with ICIs. And really importantly is that doing that trial back in 2013, 2012, most investigators didn't have the experience with cabo that they have now, right, especially in prostate cancer where TKIs aren't normally used. So it's just a very different environment. We had the first publication of some of the data back at ASCO GU in the spring.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#27

Fantastic.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#28

Very compelling data, great 30-plus percent response rates in heavily pretreated patients. Tolerability was exceptional in terms of low discount rates. Good PFS, good signal of activity. And so that data, coupled with what was emerging in the space, prompted a discussion with the agency about would an accelerated approval approach be viable here. We got good feedback there. So we're off to the races, right? So what we've done in between then and now is we've added another close to 100 patients, so we're above the 130-patient threshold. And we're now just wrapping up the single-arm cohorts to be able to really define the contribution of components in the context of the doublet cabo/atezo versus single-agent cabo, single-agent atezo. So that's all ongoing. But again, we're excited about the opportunity. We have a long-term interest in this space with all the success of the NHTs moving into M0, the M0 population, a castration-sensitive population. There's really a very important opening for new modalities that don't involve chemotherapy. So we're excited about what that -- what this could mean for patients, for the company, for the cabo story and certainly between the cohort 6 efforts and now CONTACT-02, which is the pivotal trial, the confirmatory trial. We've got a lot of irons in the fire here, and we're just excited to be working with Roche and Genentech on this, too. So we've got a lot of momentum and obviously we've got to get it done and we got to get the data and do all the work. But it's been a very productive year in terms of advancing that program forward.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#29

[Technical Difficulty] types of cancer prostate. Another example to now is cohort 8, again, from [Technical Difficulty] cancer. And now you're conducting the CONTACT-01 trial. So maybe you can tell us about the opportunity in lung.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#30

Absolutely. So we had a lot of interest in -- historically in non-small cell lung cancer with cabo. Cabo, by itself, as a single agent, combinations. Certainly, the state of the art in 2019, 2020 is ICI's frontline, either single-agent ICI/ICI combinations. Now I/O-I/O combinations as well. So lots of frontline I/O being used and, therefore, you have -- it's a large bolus of patients who become refractory to I/O frontline who are in need of better therapy. So we designed one of the cohorts, that's cohort 7, to look at this I/O refractory population in 021. And again, we had data at ASCO, which showed, I think, really compelling signs of activity and near 30% response rate per RECIST 1.1. So again, no debate about the activity there. Again, good tolerability, low discount rates, et cetera. So that's prompted us to, again, continue to enroll patients both in the cohort 7 arm, which is the combination arm as well as a single agent cohort arm, but then also start the CONTACT-01 trial, which is looking at the same population in a global randomized pivotal trial against those attacks. So again, exciting times. It's a big population. It's one that we think we've got some real insight into and some real traction into. So that's enrolling well, and we're excited about having that opportunity to work with Roche on this very important trial.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#31

And I'm going to skip CONTACT-02 right now because we've talked a lot about frontline kidney cancer because I really want to get back into some of the discovery efforts. I love that Exelixis is back into discovery. I'll start with XL092 where you're really building on that cabo clinical experience. So tell us about this compound and what your plans are.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#32

Yes. So we had data at the Triple meeting about a month ago, and we talked about it extensively on the Q3 call. So anybody who wants to dive into the details and slides and transcripts, go forward or talk to Susan, and she can get you information. The whole 092 story, I think, again, it's a very focused, elegant plan to take the 15 years of learnings that we had and, in some ways, false starts and mistakes and restarts that we have with cabo. Any new approach is bound to have that kind of drama and trauma built into it. But take those learnings and then apply them to what we think is a better molecule, right? So we like the activity profile. We love the clinical profile. Cabo is a very unique molecule. When you look at the survival data as a single agent in RCC, the survival data that we see in HCC, the only molecule that we're aware of as is a single agent and has a survival data in both RCC and HCC. The data in prostate and lung and blah, blah, blah, I mean, it's just -- it's a very active molecule. But we had to learn how to use it, and we had to learn from all that experience then how to make a better molecule. So we think that with 092, we've been able to phenocopy cabo's activity profile based upon all the important targets that hits that drive tumor growth, tumor survival, tumor progression, if you will, in terms of resistance as well as the key cell types in the tumor micro environment. And then apply that learning to a molecule that's been engineered to have a shorter half-life. Because I think a shorter half-life is much more user-friendly for a clinician when these kind of molecules almost always have to be dose-adjusted based upon individual patient sensitivities, right? So it's easier to do that with a molecule that's got a 24-hour half-life than a 4-day half-life. So simple enhancements, but potentially very high impact in terms of how it would be used clinically. So we've done that. We've -- again, the data that we had at Triple meeting shows this clinical half-life being between 20 and 28 hours. So that's fantastic. And now we're embarking on a very broad development program, some single agent work, but mostly as combinations across, again, a variety of I/O combination partners, molecules, a variety of clinical collaborators, a variety of indications as well as lines of therapy, doublets, triplets, et cetera, that will allow us to really explore the I/O white space in a way that's never really been done before with a small molecule as a way to enhance the activity of various I/O singlet -- single molecules and doublets that could really expand the opportunity to raise the bar in terms of standard of care for a variety of different indications. So there's a lot there. It's hard to go into that in like 5 minutes or less. But we're excited about where we're going there and certainly have a lot of momentum and a lot of interest from various pharma partners who have I/O assets that they'd like to be able to combine with 092 because the cabo story is so compelling as an activity profile. And if you could just tweak the molecule a little bit to make it a little bit more user-friendly like we'd have with 092, it could really be a very important advance. So we're excited about that. Going to be hitting that really hard in the years to come.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#33

Really exciting. And I got to just hats off and say a testament to you and the team, Gisela and Peter have been at it for a long, long time to advance this pipeline. I know we don't have time to talk about all of these, but you have the ambitious goal of filing 4 INDs in like the next 6 months or something. So maybe you can just touch on a couple of those and tell us what to keep our eyes open for.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#34

Yes, for sure. Well, the near-term molecules are the iconic Tissue Factor antibody, which we're super excited about. It's been a great collaboration with them. And again, we're dotting the i's and crossing the t's to get that done this year. Again, they've done a great job of finding what we think is potentially a better binder in terms of a noncompetitive binder for Tissue Factor with Factor VII as well as kind of a potentially better next-gen linker and warhead, which they published on recently in terms of the ability to have tumor killing with this enhanced warhead approach. So combined, we think it's a very interesting molecule. Certainly behaves great preclinically. We've got to do the right experiment now on the right -- in the right species, obviously. But we certainly have that momentum now to be able to start doing that Phase I work in 2021. The other molecule I'll highlight is the CDK7 inhibitor from Aurigene, another collaborative effort. They've been great to work with. We've got a whole cadre of program that's kind of coming up behind it. CDK7 is an important self-signaling molecule in the cell cycle cascade. So lots of strong biology there, which supports kind of the single agents and combinations.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#35

Yes, a great biology.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#36

So we're super jazzed to be back in the discovery game. It's in our blood, man. We're just -- that's who we are. We're drug discoverers at heart. And we've done, I think, some great clinical work and getting things over the goal line, regulatory-wise. And now the commercial organization has certainly exceeded -- achieved great things. But now our challenge is to do this again and again and again. And I think we have the momentum and the balance sheet and the culture to really be able to make a lot of progress in 2021 and beyond. So we're super jazzed.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#37

Great. Well, Mike, I think that's a great place to end it. Exelixis is available for one-on-ones during Piper Sandler's Healthcare Conference taking place from December 1 through the 3. Please contact your Piper Sandler representative to schedule meetings. Thanks, Mike.

Michael Morrissey

executive
#38

Thanks, Ted. See you.

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