EyePoint, Inc. (EYPT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 15, 2026
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Unknown Speaker
unknownThank you. EyePoint team. I'm joined here by EyePoint President and CEO Jay Duker, CFO George Elston, and Chief Commercial Officer Romero Ribero. So thank you, all three of you, for joining us early on a Tuesday morning. Just a quick note on our research disclaimer. Please feel free to visit Morgan Stanley.com/research disclosures for our disclaimer. So let's get into it. It's been an eventful few months for the EyePoint team. Maybe we can start on the recent Lugano trial readout, the Phase 3 readout, the first of two Phase 3s that you're going to have this year. When we look at the data headline, the study didn't technically meet the primary endpoint in the full intent to treat population, but there were a number of encouraging findings underneath that headline. So, we'd love to hear you guys walk through your interpretation of the data and importantly, what may have the market missed?
Jay Duker
executiveSure. Thank you very much for the invitation. Thank you for the question. So the Lugano trial was a Phase 3 trial, which studied our vorolanib intravitreal insert, 2.7 milligrams per dose. Vorolanib is a small molecule tyrosine kinase inhibitor that has activity against the VEGF receptors, PDGF, and JAK1. The control arm in this study was on label 2 milligram of aflibercept, studying it in wet age-related macular degeneration. And the patient population, 75% of them were treatment naive, and 25% had been previously treated. The primary endpoint of the study was non-inferiority change in visual acuity from day one to the average between week 52 and week 56. So as you mentioned, in the full analysis set, we did not meet the primary endpoint. But there was some really encouraging data that came out of the study, including the important secondary endpoints. First of all, safety. In the prior Phase 2, Phase 1 trials that we've run with the insert, we really had no safety concerns, and that was really in the Phase 3, the safety looked quite clean. We also showed really good anatomic control of wet AMD. That's measured in the office by an instrument called optical coherence tomography or OCT. And at the end of the trial, there was only a negligible difference in retinal thickening between the study arm and the control arm. We were able to reduce the treatment burden by over 40%, which if approved and in the real world, could mean two fewer injections per year on average. And over half of the wet AMD patients went the full year control with our drug alone. And in that group of patients, we were statistically not inferior in change in visual acuity. In the overall population, however, one of the things that really stood out as highly unusual is the number of eyes in the control arm that lost 15 or more letters. Historically, that occurs because some eyes just don't respond to anti-VEGFs. And remember, this is an elderly population, so some of these patients will lose vision for other reasons, like cataract or glaucoma or dry AMD. Typically, in the 2 milligram Eylea arm, at the end of a 1-year trial, you expect between 4% and 5% of the eyes to lose 15 or more letters. In the Lugano trial, it was only a half a percent, and that, again, is statistically highly unusual. And we believe that was the primary reason for the miss. It certainly wasn't that our drug wasn't active. Again, looking at the secondary endpoints, our drug was durable and potent and safe, but there appeared to be a significant mismatch in these 15-letter losers. And if you go back and look at our Phase 2 trial, the TOPAZ 2 trial, 7.7% of the control arm, the same control arm, 2 mg Eylea, lost 15 or more letters. So it went from 7.7% to a half a percent. And in the Phase 2, in our high-dose arm, it was under 4% lost 15 or more letters. When we really broke it down, we ended up with 9 patients in the DURAVUE arm that lost 15 or more letters for something other than wet AMD. In those eyes, when we looked at the visual acuities and, of course, the anatomic control and the overall clinical findings, 6 of them lost vision due to geographic atrophy, the severe form of dry AMD, versus none in the control arm. Again, highly asymmetric and unusual. 2 lost vision due to glaucoma, and 1 from successfully repaired retinal detachment, where the patient developed a severe cataract after the successful surgery. So we believe that this asymmetry in the 15-letter losers was the primary reason that we missed the endpoint.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay, that's really clear. I mean, it sounds like you know, the control arm simply just performed a lot better than you would have expected based on historical trials. In terms of the 9 DURAVUE patients that actually experienced a 15-letter or greater vision loss, can you help us understand what you think happened in those 9 patients? I know you mentioned geographic atrophy.
Jay Duker
executiveSo the geographic atrophy patients, I think, again, at the end of the trial, if you looked at their anatomic control of their wet AMD, it was quite good. And in fact, of those 9 patients, 3 of them never received a supplemental injection. And the reason they didn't receive it is the treating physician felt that there was no active wet AMD and there was no reason to give them another anti-VEGF. So we then did some further analysis to look at the possibility of our drug speeding the growth of geographic atrophy. Now, we certainly hadn't seen that in any of the prior studies, and there's no preclinical data to suggest that. And in fact, the analysis that we've done... I think pretty shows I think quite clear that not only do we not cause new geographic atrophy but in pre-existing geographic atrophy the rate of progression was no different than the fellow eye for example which is a nice internal control and was actually less than what's been reported as the usual progression of geographic atrophy. What we did find is the eyes in the DURAVUE arm started with geographic atrophy closer to the center of the fovea and that means that even if they progress at the same rate obviously if you start closer more likely to have visual loss from that. So we think, again, it was just an asymmetric distribution. The 2 patients that had loss from glaucoma. 1 of them, unfortunately, every time they got an Eylea shot, which was part of the trial for them to get Eylea at the beginning, they spiked their pressure very high due to the Eylea shot. And clearly, if that patient had been randomized into the other arm, they would have received Eylea and had the same pressure spikes. So, again, it appears so, certainly just a little bit of bad luck with the randomization in those cases. So I think, again, overall, the physician.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay, that's helpful context. And then when you think about the 42% reduction in the treatment burden that you highlighted, how do physicians think about that magnitude of reduction in the context of real-world treatment burden in the disease?
Jay Duker
executiveWe spoke to and we've spoken to a lot of retinal specialists and shown them the data. They're quite enthusiastic about the secondary endpoints, including that reduction in treatment burden. The expectation or hope going into the trial from retinal specialists was that we would have at least a 20% reduction in treatment burden. And when you look at the real world analysis of medications like high-dose Eylea and Vabysmo, which have been very successful, these second generation. They appear to reduce treatment burden less than 20%, about 1 injection less per year on average, yet they're quite successful. So we think that that overall success of the reduction in treatment burden, if approved, would be very enthusiastically accepted by the retinal community.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay. And then just going back to the safety profile for a moment, it looked quite clean, as you mentioned, including after repeat dosing. So no meaningful imbalance in interocular inflammation, no observed retinal vasculitis or severe IOI. So how important is the repeat dosing safety experience when you think about the differentiation of your drug?
Jay Duker
executiveWell, again, these patients on average who are diagnosed with wet AMD live for over another 10 years. And so you want to be able to treat them successfully and safely for the rest of their lives. So the important thing in wet AMD when you look at the long-term success, patients, despite our very good short-acting anti-VEGF, still lose vision. And so the ability to retreat and have long-term suppression of VEGF appears to be associated with much better outcomes in the long term. So obviously you have to show the safety and efficacy in your trials, so we're certainly able to show safety with repeat dosing, and again, we expected that animal data in the previous safety from single injection really gave us confidence that we would be safe. But if a drug can't be repeated, and obviously if it's even a long acting that might last 6 months or a year, it doesn't really help us retina specialists treat patients in the long term. You need to have repeat dosing.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay. And then is there, just thinking about the takeaways from the study, I mean, is there anything you learned from Lugano about sort of patient selection or baseline patient characteristics that could influence how patients would use, or how physicians, rather, would use DURAVUE commercially?
Jay Duker
executiveYes. So we've looked quite a bit at the outcomes today to see if there was any indication that, for example, the drug worked better in eyes that were previously treated or eyes that were treatment naive, and we didn't find a difference. We've broken it down by some other parameters, and we'll continue to do that, certainly, because that's something, if approved, is very important. You want to be able to tell the treating physicians which are the eyes that are going to do really well. And especially that 54% that went the full year with our drug alone. As I think I've emphasized over and over, we have these supplement criteria in the trial, but that's not how doctors treat in the real world. They don't supplement per se, but given that we're a different mechanism of action, I think in the real world, if we're approved, doctors wouldn't hesitate to use both a biologic a long acting TKI together to get, hopefully, a synergistic effect. So, again, when we look at those eyes that were made it through the full year stable on our drug alone, we're hoping to find some biologic marker early on that might indicate that subgroup of patients. But as of yet, when we looked in the Phase 2, we were not able to discern it, and we'll be doing further studies to try to elucidate that.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay, great. Just given the totality of the data and the outcome, what conversations have you had or are you expecting to have with the FDA around this study?
Jay Duker
executiveSo I think, again, putting it in context, the FDA has seen a lot of aflibercept 2 milligram arms and how they do. And I think we have a very solid clinical explanation as to why we missed the primary endpoint. And there are certainly examples in retina of drugs that hit 1 Phase 3 and missed a second Phase 3 being approved, and there are plenty of examples outside of ophthalmology of that as well. And so if the second trial, the Lucia trial is positive, we're quite optimistic that the FDA will accept our NDA and review it.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay, that's a good segue to Lucia, which I know is coming up next quarter. On Q4, you've guided the street. This is obviously an extremely important readout for the company. So can you remind us how similar the trial is to Lugano and whether there are any meaningful differences in sort of the patient population that we should be thinking about? Romero, do you want to answer that?
Unknown Speaker
unknownYes. So in terms of study design, Lugano and Lucia are identical, exactly the same type of study design. In terms of the patient population, the only difference is that Lugano was 100% U.S. patients, and Lucia is 80% U.S., 20% international. We published the MAST baseline characteristics earlier this year in a medical conference, and the baseline characteristics on a mask fashion was pretty similar. The way that we are analyzing the data also, of course, pretty similar. We are amending the analysis plan for Lucia based on the learnings from Lugano. So 1 new analysis that we're going to be doing is looking at patients that lost 15 letters for reasons not related to wet MD. And similar to what we did for Lugano on a post-hoc matter removing those patients, in Lucia, we're going to pre-specify that and has a pre-specified sensitivity analysis. The primary endpoint, it's still the same, takes into account to all the patients. But for the sensitivity analysis, we will remove those patients.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay. Ramiro, just going a little bit further on the geographic mix, how do you think that could influence either the control arm performance in Lucia or maybe just the underlying variability in visual acuity outcomes?
Unknown Speaker
unknownYes, I think if you look at recent Phase 3 studies in wet AMD and when they broke down by geographic region, there was no meaningful difference between U.S. and international patients. In the end of the day, wet AMD is a relatively genetic disease, so you see mainly Caucasian patients. The sites that we use outside of the U.S., of course, are sites that have experience in Phase 3 studies. They are located in big cities. So we should not expect any difference in terms of geographic region between U.S. patients and international patients.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay. So the timeline you've outlined is Q4 for Lucia data and then potential NDA filing in the first half of '27, right? So what would you really need to see in Lucia to feel comfortable moving forward with the planned NDA?
Jay Duker
executiveI think it's it's actually quite binary. If we have a positive primary endpoint, with intend to move forward with the NDA filing in the first half of next year. From the perspective of acceptance in the retina community and use, I don't think the retinal physicians will care very much about the actual numerical difference, if there is 1, between our drug and the control arm, as long as we're approved and safe. So we would expect to see similar secondary endpoints in Lucia that we saw. And if we do and we hit the primary endpoint, then I think we intend to file, and I think we'll have a good chance of having the drug accepted.
Unknown Speaker
unknownIn your conversations with retinal specialists, do you feel like there's still a lot of enthusiasm around the program and kind of belief that you guys have an active drug here?
Jay Duker
executiveOh, I think there's a lot of enthusiasm, yes. In that, again, when they look at the secondary endpoints, in particular the anatomic control, which is what retinal physicians use on a daily basis to decide how well their drug of choice or their interval is working, I think they're very enthusiastic about it. What a drug like the vorolanib insert can do for them and their patients is, first of all, the most important thing is it will really help long-term visual acuity. Because in the long term right now, patients are undertreated. And by having an insert that lasts 6 months or longer, the ability to treat in the long term and have patients come back for visits, I think is going to improve. And retina specialists clearly understand that. It also gives them flexibility to change their dosing frequency longer if they choose to, and depending on the patient in this situation. And so I think the enthusiasm is there, and I think that in general, the secondary endpoints, we did better than expected in the retina community. And that's what's really going to make us commercially successful. We have a hurdle we need to get over, which is we need to hit the primary endpoint.
Unknown Speaker
unknownAnd obviously get approved. Of course, yes. Maybe just on the commercial opportunity and sort of the competitive backdrop, the competitive bar has certainly been raised by increasingly durable agents like Eylea HD and Vabysmo that are on market. What would DURAVUE need to offer just in practice to drive actual switching from those from those agents?
Jay Duker
executiveWell, I think the obvious thing is, again, further length of time between injections. If you really look at the real-world data, whatever agent we use, about 20% of wet AMD patients still have to be treated monthly. And about half have to be treated every 2 months or more frequently. And so there's a huge need out there, even with these newer agents, to try to extend those patients out further. And so, again, I alluded to this earlier. If you have a patient that you're treating 12 times a year, and let's hypothesize that the DURAVUE is safe, effective, tolerable, approved every 6 months and you use it in that patient and you still need to or choose to use a ligand-blocking biologic in between and say your total 4 times a year injections. Those 2 what we called in the trial supplements, those wouldn't be considered supplements in the real world because in the real world you've gone from 12 injections a year to 4 injections a year, which is terrific for everybody. And if you go back and look at the data from Lugano, almost 90% of the eyes were controlled with 4 injections or less per year. And again, going back to the real world, if you ask the question, well, how many high-dose Aflibercept patients or Vabysmo patients are treated at a 3-month interval or longer? It's not 88%, it's probably a third of that. So that ability to get many patients out to that 3 month or longer mark I think is something that's going to be very attractive to everybody, patients, physicians, payers.
George Elston
executiveYes, if I can add to that, I think, because the topic switching comes up frequently and that's been the history of how wet AMD is treated. The most recent drugs say we last longer use U.S. stop using the other programs. And our message is quite different. Our message is it's no longer either or it's both because we're bringing a new MOA, we're going to be that background foundational medicine and if the anti-VEGF biologics are needed in between, doctors will use them. And so it's really a different commercial mind shift in that space.
Jay Duker
executiveYes, I think it totally does.
Unknown Speaker
unknownTo your point, George, that means that flexibility to actually, you know, give supplemental anti-VEGF injections on top of DURAVUE when necessary. That kind of lowers the bar to entry, you know, when it comes to practice or...
Jay Duker
executiveAnd I think even though we showed over half the patients could go 6 months on our drug alone, doesn't mean that that's what the majority of doctors will do. Certainly at the beginning, they're going to want to see how the drug performs. And remember, many of these patients do not have wet AMD in the fellow eye yet, and they're susceptible. So I think the idea of going 6 months or longer between visits is not something most physicians are going to be comfortable with. They're going to bring the patients back to see how they're doing and check the fellow eye. And I think that some patients would be very happy to come back for a check to hear they don't need an injection. Or, as I think I've already mentioned, some doctors, even if the eye's under control, may choose to use the assumption that the 2 MOAs are going to be synergistic and choose to do that. That's the flexibility that our drug may offer.
Unknown Speaker
unknownMakes a lot of sense. I'm going to just switch gears for a moment to your diabetic macular edema program. Maybe you could, Jay, remind us why you believe DME could be an attractive setting for DURAVUE.
Jay Duker
executiveWell, I think first of all, the diabetics, it's a different population from wet AMD patients, they're younger, they're often working because they're diabetics, they have multiple doctor visits, and it's really hard for them to have the number of injections that they need. The study suggests in the first year of DME treatment, patients should receive about 11 injections, and in the real world, they receive about 3. And some of that is that because DME is a multifactorial disease, it's not just VEGF-mediated, there's clearly an inflammatory component as well, that it can take multiple injections before the patients realize that they're actually getting better. So if you're a diabetic and the physician says, look, I've got to give you these monthly injections, you have 3, 4, 5 of them, and you don't perceive the benefit, it's very easy to stop coming back. And we think that's a real problem in this population. So the things that really gives us really enthusiasm about drug and DME Verona trial we looked at patients who were previously treated but all of them had active DME which means they had decreased vision and they had fluid on OCT and it So if you look at the initial data point after treatment, all patients received treatment on day 1, and at week 4, the eyes and the DURAVUE arm were already seeing about 4 letters better than the eyes and the Eylea arm, and there were also 40 to 50 microns drier on OCT. We can show that in the Phase 3. Even if the end of the trial were non-inferior, were the same vision, but we can show we can get patients drier and seeing better faster. Who wouldn't want to have better vision with fewer injections? I think everybody would, and I think that that's ability to capture market share in the DME market, which is currently about a $3 billion market. I think it's wide open for a drug like ours.
Unknown Speaker
unknownSo you mentioned the Phase 3 that are ongoing, Phase 3 COMO and CAPRI trials, they're now both fully enrolled. More than 480 patients on in the trial. And I know you're expecting top line data from that that trial, those trials, I think it's Q4, 2027, if I'm not mistaken. So, can you walk us through the design of those trials and kind of sort of what you learned from Verona that may have informed some of that planning?
Unknown Speaker
unknownYes, so similar to our wet AMD, COMO and CAPRI are 2 identical studies. The main difference first on the control arm, we're using on label Aflibercept, which means 5 month injections in the beginning, and then after that is Aflibercept every 8 weeks. So, DURAVUE based on what we saw in our Phase 2 study with the benefit of DURAVUE starting from day 1. We are dosing DURAVUE day 1 together with Aflibercept. And then after that we have 2 additional monthly Aflibercept. And then DURAVUE is every 6 months. So day 1, 24. The primary endpoint is changed from baseline to average week 52 and 56. So this is similar to our Phase 3 program. And then the secondary endpoints, we also have treatment burden, anatomy control, and safety. We also have supplement injections for the patient. For patients that meet a certain criteria. And then we have both naive patients as well as previously treated. Most of the sites that are part of COMO and CAPRI were also part of our wet AMD study. So those sites, they have experience with Phase 3 studies and they have experience with DURAVUE, which of course, from an operation perspective, help us a lot.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay. Ramiro, maybe you can just give some context. I know it's a year away, but what do you think would constitute a compelling clinical profile in DME beyond just non-inferiority, what would we want to see in those Phase 3 trials?
Unknown Speaker
unknownI think the key components are, of course, the non-inferiority, which we have agreement with the FDA to use a non-inferiority margin of 4.5 letters, followed by a reduction in treatment burden, which also is important for DME. Safety, we have a good understanding of safety. We should see the same type of safety profile in DME patients. And then in addition to that, as Jay mentioned, it's going to be very interesting to assess the effect of the JAK1 IL-6 inhibition that we have with vorolanib in the DME patient. This can translate to first either a gain in visual acuity earlier than just aflibercept, and then second, which is very important for physicians is a reduction in the leakage on the fluorescein angiography. We know that long-term patients that have leakage either on the OCT or on the F-A, but have worse outcomes than patients that have dry retina.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay, that's helpful context. George, I'm going to turn to you. Just thinking about the balance sheet, you ended the second quarter with about $180 million in cash, and you've got runway into Q4 '27, so you're well-funded here. But how do you think about cash utilization following Lugano? And, you know, I know you've you've been investing ahead of the launch, but how do you think about cash spend going forward?
George Elston
executiveYes, no, great question. And I think we've got a pretty good track record at EyePoint of managing and controlling our burn. Our cash guidance has been unchanged for over a year. Obviously with Lugano missing, a number of things have pushed out. And so we're still very confident in that cash runway is probably a little bit better, but clearly between now and then we'll need to add the balance sheet, we've got a number of catalysts, including Lucia, including the potential NDA filing and acceptance, and as you mentioned, COMO CAPRI next year. And so I think with success in Lucia we'll have a number of levers we can pull, including potential synthetic structures on top of equity and other other mechanisms like that.
Unknown Speaker
unknownYes, so I think what gets lost out there, obviously there's a lot of focus on the clinical outcomes and that's clearly important, but when you file an NDA, CMC is. And just on the point of the sort of investment ahead of launch, I know you've been bringing in commercial leadership and kind of building out your manufacturing capacity. Can you talk about sort of the prep work that's going into that?
George Elston
executiveJust as important, if not more important, in the sense that most CRLs happen with on the CMC level. And so we've been in front of manufacturing for several years. We had a state-of-the-art facility built for U.S. by our landlord in Massachusetts. And so that has been under scale up and we now have batches under stability, we have under registration batches, and we're in the process of scale up to support that CMC, and the team's just done a remarkable job out there. And then on the commercial side, it's never too early to get in front of your customers, start talking to payers, and we've built a very small but important team in preparation for launch. And I think the bigger spend on the commercial side will obviously come after NDA acceptance and approval where we'll start to build that organization out.
Jay Duker
executiveOne more comment, if I may, about the manufacturing. So these inserts, there's a lot of technical know-how that goes into making them. And the other big effort we needed to do at our facility in Northbridge, Massachusetts, was automate the process in order to really meet the demands of successful launch. The inserts really need to be made not by hand but by machines. And again, George said it and I'll re-emphasize, our team has done a remarkable job to automate and semi-automate the process from the beginning right straight through to the inspection of the inserts. You know, formally the inserts were inspected individually by hand. A person picked them up with tweezers and weighed them and measured them and looked at them under magnification for impurities. That's obviously not something that you can scale successfully commercially and we knew that and that's 1 of the reasons we built this facility in and brought in the type of automation that's necessary and we've been able to.
Unknown Speaker
unknownTo do that successfully. Okay, just to give you the last word, Jay, I mean, Lucia's around the corner, you know, a lot to be excited for. What do you think investors will understand with a positive Lucia data that they may not appreciate today?
Jay Duker
executiveAgain, I like to emphasize the secondary endpoints because that's what's going to make this drug commercially successful. What we're trying to do here is really improve patients' lives by giving them better long-term vision. And the pathway to do that is through those secondary endpoints. So that, I mean it's obvious, we need to hit a primary to get approval, but we are quite optimistic that with the primary endpoint being hit in Lucia, in the strong secondaries and the clinical explanation for the miss, I think the agency is going to look quite favorably at the application.
Unknown Speaker
unknownTerrific. Well, thank you. We're wishing you success in Lucia, both for the EyePoint team and for patients. So we'll stay tuned and thanks for joining U.S. today. Thank you. Appreciate your time. This live transcript is auto-generated without human intervention or review. This live transcript is auto-generated without human intervention or review.
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