FactSet Research Systems Inc. (FDS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 30, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Kevin McVeigh
analystGreat. So we are going to get started here. We are thrilled to host Phil Snow, who's the CEO of FactSet, as part of our technology conference. What I want to do is give a little background on Phil because I think it really helps underscore what he's brought to FactSet over the course of a 25-year career, starting back in '96. I'm going to try to keep this as interactive as possible. My hope is people ask questions directly. But if anyone wants to e-mail me, feel free to do so at kevin.mcveigh, M-C-V-E-I-G-H, @credit, C-R-E-D-I-T dash suisse, S-U-I-S-S-E, .com. Just to start off here, I am the business and information services analyst here at Crédit Suisse. And again, we're thrilled to have FactSet CEO Phil Snow. Phil has been the CEO since 2015 and began his career, again, over the course of 25 years. And what I think is important is to contextualize his career. He's been in the Asia-Pacific region before having leadership roles in content in the America sales, and I think that's really kind of helped them evolve to kind of build the organization the way it's built for success today. And I think one of the big things he's committed to, obviously, is diversity inclusion within FactSet and something I know he takes very serious and I think is one of the key parts to the FactSet story going forward.
Kevin McVeigh
analystWith that said, Phil, I wonder if -- because I think it will help kind of really contextualize the success you folks have had to COVID, particularly given some of the investments you've outlined a couple of quarters ago as you positioned the business for growth into '21, into '22. But maybe remind the audience of the component to the research versus the analytics, the wealth. Because, again, I think one of the big drivers of the business, going forward, will be on the research side. And you folks have really been able to invest in that business, I think, to pivot it for more growth, leveraging the success you've had on kind of the CTS and wealth side as well. So maybe talk to that a little bit, and we'll start there and kind of go from there.
Frederick Snow
executiveRight. Sure, Kevin. Thanks for having me, and I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying the conference.
Kevin McVeigh
analystYes.
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. As you pointed out, we've got a number of business lines. Research is our biggest business line, and this really can be thought of as sort of the core FactSet we have of workstation offering. And we also have a very sophisticated research management solution that sits within that group as well. Our analytics business is our portfolio analytics business. So there, we've got a whole suite of products that can take you from portfolio management, order management, execution management, performance and risk analysis and client reporting. They've got a very good year last year. We have our wealth business, which we've broken out separately, which shares a lot of the same components as research but is really more geared to the wealth adviser and is really leveraging our investment in technology and the scale that we've been able to achieve with our web offering. And then finally, we have Content and Technology Solutions, which you can think of as really ways of monetizing FactSet outside of the offerings that I just spoke about. So those could be feeds. They could be APIs. They could be other ways that we do that as well. So those are the 4 different businesses. We're excited about all of them in a 3-year plan that we've been talking about. And in our second year of now, I believe that there's an opportunity to grow each of those businesses for different reasons.
Kevin McVeigh
analystAnd Phil, just to frame that a little more. I always say, unfortunately, it takes a crisis sometimes to prove out the business model. What you've been able to do through COVID has really been -- to say impressive is to say the least. Maybe talk about, I think, particularly the client service aspect of the business, which I think has been a big differentiator for you folks. Talk to that in terms of ability to really shepherd your clients through that process, which I think, in turn, probably helps the retention aspect of the business. And then maybe within the context of that, some of the expense opportunity and how that maybe helps you reinvest for the longer-term business. And maybe just any thoughts around that, I think, are really, really important to the story.
Frederick Snow
executiveSure. So one of the things people really like about FactSet and that we've been consistent in this throughout our history is the high-touch model we have with our clients and the deep trust and relationship that we build with our clients by having long-term relationships and really taking a really keen interest in their workflow and helping them solve problems. So I was a FactSet consultant myself. Many of the management team grew up supporting clients, and it's something we take very seriously. We were able to pivot to doing this virtually seamlessly, essentially. So very quickly, we were on the phone with our clients, talking to them, helping them get it set up at home. If they didn't have sort of a way to do that, we were offering licenses for a shopper for people that couldn't connect through other services, which went over very well with our clients. And at the beginning, I was wondering whether or not we'd be able to execute on the implementation of some of our more enterprise offerings, which, traditionally, we've had a balance of remote versus on-site. And we found that we were able to do all of that very well as well, so 99% of our team now is working from home. I check in with our consultants and salespeople all the time and just sort of ask them how they're doing, and they all seem to be thriving virtually. And many of them do want to get back to the office, so I think we'll end up with some sort of a hybrid there as we get into FY '21. But I feel very excited, honestly, about the opportunity to evolve our business model and be more efficient in terms of how we serve our clients. And as you pointed out, I think there will be some ongoing savings from T&E. I mean it's hard to imagine FY '21 being a full-blown T&E year, like it might have been 2 years ago. So I think there are some things that we'll have to think about right in terms of how we want to deploy those savings. A lot of that or some of it is built into our financial plan already. But I think like every company, we're all learning as we go along here in terms of how much travel there'll be, what it means for the office of the future. None of that gets figured out right away, but it's something that we're thinking about seriously and will impact our business over time.
Kevin McVeigh
analystSo 2 of the things I thought that were -- that really impressed upon me were how quickly the sales force was able to adapt remotely in terms of -- it felt like they really didn't miss a step at all in terms of just the close rate. So maybe talk to that a little bit. And then the other thing, it feels like, structurally, there's going to be a higher level of content demand from your clients, just given the increased frequency and data usage and the positive outcome as a result of that. And I think, again, those are 2 really nice tailwinds to the business that probably are more structural. So maybe talk to that a little bit.
Frederick Snow
executiveSure. So I think it's -- we found it very easy to get virtual meetings set up with our clients. In fact, it's -- in some ways, it's easier than trying to get somebody to commit to you coming to their site and gathering everyone for a meeting and figuring out what day that's going to be exactly. So it's been great to -- from our clients to continue to talk to us, have conversations about new opportunities. And like I said in my previous comments, executing on existing pipeline was seamless. And we're finding that we're able to generate new opportunities and -- as we talk to clients in this virtual environment. So that's one thing. You mentioned increased data usage. I think that's true, Kevin. I think what's also important to consider is how are our clients are going through that technology transformation. So more important than ever for our clients is to commit to technology and moving through their own digital transformations. And that's a journey we're on ourselves internally, plus one we've committed to as part of our 3-year plan. So I do think that's a big piece of it as well, and we're finding that a very interesting thing about technology. They were anyway, but we -- but the conversations, I think, have sort of ramped up a little bit as a result of what's happened in the last 8 months and so on. On the data usage side, I think that's just a continuation on the slave of everything that we've seen in the industry over the last even 10 years is there's going to have to be more and more data consumed, particularly by the buy side, to be competitive as they search for new ideas to compete with passive strategies. So we've been investing in content, integrating content well and thinking of new ways that we can deliver content to clients to serve that need. So those are the 2 big things that clients are focused on, not just more content, but also their own digital transformation.
Kevin McVeigh
analystSo one thing I feel like is an underappreciated part of the FactSet story is your ability to kind of maintain and shift some incremental market share. Maybe talk about the competitive environment a little bit. And I think, quite frankly, one of the questions we often get is, to what you just alluded to, the shift from kind of active to passive. You've been able to manage through that with very consistent organic growth and improving client retention. Maybe talk to that a little bit. Again, I think one of the more underappreciated parts is the relative stickiness of the market share. And obviously, as I think about the competitive dynamics, there's Bloomberg; there's Thomson Reuters, which is now Refinitiv; yourself; and then S&P Cap IQ. And everyone's got their kind of strengths, and I think that really is part of the market share story. But maybe remind us of that because, again, I think that's one of the parts of the story that maybe the market doesn't fully appreciate.
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. I think the competitive advantage that FactSet has, I would call it, integration. So -- and that's in a couple of dimensions. It's the integration of the content. So all of the content within our ecosystem is very well connected to a permanent security ID. And every time we do a content acquisition or we partner with a content provider or we decide to collect it ourselves, we try to do that within the context of making sort of one library of suite of content that's easy for clients to get to. And that is sometimes, I believe, underappreciated. The second integration is really of the workflow of our clients. So FactSet really is one platform. We're not separate pieces of business. And if you want to do research, whether it's fundamental or clients, portfolio management, order and execution, performance and risk, client reporting, all of that works very well together. And what our clients are all going through is this need to rationalize what it is their spending and the data and analytics within their own organizations. So I think FactSet is very well positioned to do that. Our clients are not looking to have hundreds of providers anymore. They're looking for a couple of key sort of platform providers. And then for some very unique content or technology, they will add on to that. But within our clients themselves, they are going through this consolidation of their own vendors that they deal with. And I'm very confident in our strategy and the way that we are positioned to kind of help them with those initiatives they have, and those are a lot of the conversations that we're having today.
Kevin McVeigh
analystThat makes a lot of sense. I'm going to ask another question on that, but I was just e-mailed one. I just want to -- from the audience within The context of just the market environment. The investment banking layoffs at Wells, Citi, GS, were those within kind of the context of kind of what you would have expected? Or just any thoughts around that, I guess, again, within September-October at Wells Fargo, Citi and Goldman. There were some cuts across the bank.
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. I don't think -- when I think about the cuts that they had, I don't believe those were in the areas of our business that would affect us particularly. So we service a couple of key workflows within investment banking. But from what we've seen, there's been some continued hiring there, and we feel like we've got a very good strategy to continue to take market share in that part of our business.
Kevin McVeigh
analystGreat. I want to go back to the competitive environment a little bit, just because, obviously, there's been -- Refinitiv is in the process of changing hands for the second time. There's been some speculation about some potential transactions being de-backed. And you folks obviously acquired TruvaLue Labs recently. Maybe talk to that. And then just the competitive environment overall, it seems like there's more potential consolidation, how you see yourself poised to benefit from that. And just any thoughts as you look to kind of specifically enhance the business model, whether it's ESG or just other areas of the business as you think about it going forward?
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. So we're going to focus on our core strength, which is what we just spoke about, so the integrated offering, the technology transformation and the way that we service our clients. So we feel like we're in really good shape to continue to do that. When these things happen in the industry, it does obviously create some potential disruption that our clients have to think about what it means for them moving forward and so on. So very often, in these times, we can capitalize on that disruption. And in terms of our own M&A strategy, we're going to stick to the formula that -- this worked very well for FactSet in the past, which has continued to just look for good, unique tuck-in acquisitions that we can add to the integrated platform, whether that's content or a little bit of technology. So we feel really good about our own strategy. And no matter what's going on within the competitive environment, we feel like we've got a differentiated approach that will allow us to continue to be successful.
Kevin McVeigh
analystAnd as I think about one of the kind of, I think, bigger swing factors in the growth will be as you kind of enhance the growth prospects within the core research business. Maybe talk to that a little bit because I know that's been a lot of the incremental investment. And again, I know that's such a critical part in terms of the distribution engine. Maybe talk to that a little bit in terms of -- as that relationship has evolved from kind of the traditional workstation, if you would, to more of a workflow and just the incremental opportunity as the technology evolves over the course of time.
Frederick Snow
executiveSo we're making big investments in content, which will certainly help the research workflow. So obviously, there's been a big shift to private markets. FactSet does have a good private markets offering today. We integrate a lot of third-party private market data, and we also collect some of our own. But this is an area that we're accelerating. And I think, for us, it's really a greenfield opportunity to go in and sell to private market firms, whether that's all they do. But we also see within the asset owner space and within institutional asset management a greater need to look at those types of things. So that's one example. We're also investing heavily in what we call our deep sector content. And all of the investments we're making in technology are making it easier for us to collect these content sets, which, traditionally, was difficult for us, just because of how much more data there is to collect in those versus the data that there is in the public market. So that's on the content side. And then on the technology side, all the investment we've made in a web-based product, we're creating signals. We're creating a new experience for our clients in FactSet, where they essentially can discover new insights more easily than they might have been able to in the past. So I just think the experience of using the platform, in general, has been improved significantly. And then when you take that and you think about, okay, how do we combine that then with the other workflows for our firm which might be more portfolio-centric, that's where I think that we have the killer combination of the research tool. But we're also very, very differentiated in the portfolio analytics space and that we do -- the work we do for our clients there. So to -- connecting those 2 pieces together is very important. And those 2 business lines work hand-in-hand in terms of thinking about the workflow, for example, of a portfolio manager, which will want both the research component as well as the portfolio analytics component.
Kevin McVeigh
analystThat's helpful. Again, I think one of the more differentiated parts and underappreciated is your differentiated data sets. Maybe talk to kind of the data collection, how much of that is maybe external versus internal? And as you go through the curation process, and again, I think as you focus more on the private data, it becomes that much more differentiated. The scarcity value increases exponentially. Maybe take us through that process a little bit because, again, I think that really helps fortify that rigid market share that you folks have been able to have and ultimately kind of cultivate over time.
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. Strategy has always been to offer best-of-breed content and to be really agnostic to what content our clients want to consume. So half of FactSet employees today are in the business of collecting or engineering a collection of content. So it's a big piece of what it is we do. And we collect 35 core content sets today, starting with fundamentals and estimates and going on from there. And then we do collect some very unique content service as well. Some -- we've got some excellent supply chain data, and we've got some excellent data that provides very good taxonomy for the industry and so on. So that's what we do ourselves. But we also get data from thousands of third parties, and we integrate that very closely with the data we have ourselves. So again, I do think that's important to our clients, where we're not sort of restricting them to the data that we own or that's unique to us, but we're much more open in terms of providing our clients choice essentially in terms of what it is that they get from FactSet.
Kevin McVeigh
analystPhil, the businesses vary in terms of growth, if you look at kind of CTS and kind of the analytics business, the wealth relative to kind of the core business. Maybe talk about the different growth drivers across them overall as they build up to kind of that mid- to high single-digit-type organic growth that you folks are looking to kind of enhance over the course of time. And then just within the context of pricing, how pricing and retention plays into that? Because I think the retention is really one of the more, again, I think, underappreciated parts to the story as well.
Frederick Snow
executiveSo we'll start with CTS, which is the fastest-growing piece of our business. So again, this is Content and Technology Solutions. It's clients taking data feeds from us or APIs or consuming value in new ways. So that, traditionally, has really been mostly a data feed business. We're just now opening up a lot more APIs that people can program directly against the content. And we also have the Open:FactSet environment, where people can come in and actually begin to explore the data today if they wanted to and code against it with Python or use other more modern tools to analyze the data. So the wind is definitely at our backs in terms of the trends there, and the clients need to consume more content into different environments. We're also working very closely with enterprise software companies. So we've made a press release around a partnership that we have with Snowflake, which is becoming a very popular tool or technology that our clients are using. So I think we're building up relationships there that I believe will help bolster the continued growth of the CTS business. So that's CTS. On the analytics side, again, that's our portfolio analytics product, which for the last few years has grown in the high single-digit range. And this is the area of our business where we've made a lot of investment over the last 5 years. And many of the acquisitions that we did prior to the one we just did were software companies geared towards portfolio analytics, so a performance system, a reporting system an execution management system and order management system. We're beginning to really see the fruits of our work there in terms of the integration. I took a little bit longer than I thought it would. But I have a lot of confidence that, that integrated workflow for our clients will continue to be a really sticky piece of FactSet's product moving forward. So that's a little bit more of a top-down sale or enterprise sale than it used to be and less workstation-based than it used to be. So that, I think, really bodes well for that piece of our business. The wealth business really is a greenfield opportunity for us, so we've been very well. We were very public about 2 big names that we got on the wealth side. We've had a lot of other wins that we've not been public about. But I continue to be very optimistic about all the investment we've made in our market, data and news product and company research products that are really helping the wealth adviser of the future service more clients as they think about what they need to do to be more efficient. And then last but not least, our research business. All of the investment we're making there, even though it's a slower growing piece of FactSet, as you pointed out, getting that footprint and sort of that territory and then building on top of it and cross-selling is so important. So I'm very encouraged by what I see there. Even though there's pressure on people in our industry and sort of more competition probably within that part of the business amongst the major players, I think we've got a winning strategy there and one that I'm very optimistic that we can continue to do well.
Kevin McVeigh
analystGot it. Phil, it seems like there's been more and more consolidation in the industry, both on kind of the asset manager side, maybe not the investment banks at this point, but on the asset management side and then even across some of the data providers. Maybe thoughts on what's driving that and then just how you folks are poised to benefit. Again, I think it's a fascinating time where it feels like a lot of the technology and things like that are driving this, but just any thoughts around that, I think, would be super helpful as we think about FactSet.
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. On the asset management side, we've definitely seen that barbelling effect, right, where the larger platforms are able to invest in data and technology and really continue to gain assets. And a lot of what I've spoken about allows us to go and have conversations with those clients about the work they're doing there. There are more specialized providers within asset management that we can service well with some of the content needs we have. And for those companies that are struggling in the middle of the bell curve, we certainly have solutions there that can help them be more efficient in terms of what it is they want to do and be more competitive. So I do think across the spectrum of asset management, even though there's consolidation going on, we can play a hand in helping clients of all sizes and so on. So that really is something that we take a lot of pride in and think that the solutions that we have are very well equipped to help.
Kevin McVeigh
analystSuper. Any thoughts around kind of capital allocation? Again, it's been such a tricky environment the last 12 months or so in terms of the abruptness of COVID, and it feels like the clients have really kind of come out of it much better, which, in hand, it feels like even you folks operationally have an opportunity to maybe take advantage of that. But just thoughts on capital allocation. And just as you think about the expenses, maybe talk a little bit more. You mentioned T&E a little bit earlier, but any thoughts as to what component of that is internal versus external and thoughts as we think about the business?
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. I don't think a lot has changed there, Kevin, since our last call. We sort of reset on our investment plan, so we'll probably continue to buy back shares at a similar rate, continue to pay a dividend or grow the dividend and just continue to invest in the business the way that we spoke about. So it's not all cost savings. I mean setting everyone up to work from home, especially those folks that didn't have equipment or connectivity before sort of -- there's a flip side to it. So some of the savings from T&E will go to setting up some of our employees to be more efficient from their home as well.
Kevin McVeigh
analystSuper. As we close out here, Phil, anything that you haven't been asked or maybe parts to the business? Again, there's a lot that goes on beyond the operation to deliver the results you do, but just anything you want to kind of call out to the audience. Or if anyone else has any questions as we're kind of closing that out of here, we'd love your thoughts.
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. You asked a lot of great questions. I think we covered all the key points. I think FactSet has a 40-year history of consistent execution, and we're excited about the next generation of our product and our service. And I think the current environment, even though -- obviously, it's been very tough for people on a personal level for lots of reasons, we feel very optimistic about what we've learned and what it is we can do to capitalize on that moving forward.
Kevin McVeigh
analystAwesome. Anybody else before we close it out? Great. Thanks so much, Phil.
Frederick Snow
executiveAll right, Kevin. Thanks for having me.
Kevin McVeigh
analystYou're welcome.
Frederick Snow
executiveYes. You, too. Bye now.
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