Foraco International SA (FAR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 31, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood morning, and welcome to Foraco International's Second Quarter 2026 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Tim Bremner, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Timothy Bremner
executiveThank you, Joanna, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Foraco International's results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2026. Joining me on the call is Fabien Sevestre, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review the financial results and the key drivers of our performance. Before we begin, please note that our remarks and presentation may include forward-looking information, which is subject to unknown and known and unknown risks and uncertainties. The market backdrop entering the second half of 2026 remains constructive. Global nonferrous exploration budgets reached approximately $12.4 billion in 2025, recovering from multiyear lows, and drilling activity has continued to build momentum in 2026. Gold prices near record levels are supporting a significant increase in exploration spending with gold representing approximately half of global exploration budgets. At the same time, customers remain focused on near-mine and brownfield programs, which now account for a record share of exploration investment. These programs generally offer lower geological risk, shorter development time lines and strong demand for technically capable drilling services providers. Longer-term fundamentals also remain supportive. Structural supply constraints in copper, cobalt and silver, together with demand associated with electrification, energy infrastructure and artificial intelligence are encouraging customers to invest in resource expansion. Improving access to capital for junior and intermediate mining companies is also contributing to a broader recovery in drilling activity. Foraco is well positioned in this environment through a diversified portfolio of Tier 1 and junior customers, exposure to attractive commodities and a broad range of mining and water drilling applications. Turning to the quarter. Foraco delivered strong year-over-year growth. Revenue increased 22% to $84.5 million compared to $69.1 million in the second quarter of 2025. The increase was driven by higher activity in Canada, the United States and South America. EBITDA increased 7% to $15 million, reflecting the significantly higher level of activity across the group. Rig utilization increased to 51% compared with 35% in prior year quarter, demonstrating strength of the recovery and the operating leverage available in the business. With that brief overview, I'll now turn the call over to Fabian for the financial review. Fabien?
Fabien Sevestre
executiveThank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. As a reminder, Foraco reports under IFRS and all financial figures are presented in U.S. dollars. Revenue for the second quarter reached $84.5 million compared with $69.1 million in the prior year period. This represents the strongest quarterly revenue since the second quarter of 2023. Gross margin was 15.5% compared with 20.5% in Q2 2025. The year-over-year reduction primarily reflects higher labor and consumable costs, mobilization expense and lower operating efficiency during the early stage of several significant contract start-ups. EBITDA was $16 million (sic) [ $15 million ] or 17.8% of revenue compared with $14 million or 20.3% of revenue in the second quarter of 2025. Our record backlog provides strong revenue visibility through the second half of 2026 and beyond. Profitability remains our key focus and margin recovery is underway, while quarterly trends show accelerating momentum. Mining revenue increased 23% year-over-year to $70.5 million, while Water revenue increased 21% to $14 million. The reporting segment mix remained stable with mining representing 83% of revenue and Water representing 17%. By geography, North America generated revenue of $32 million, an increase of 28% compared with the prior year period. The improvement reflects strong activity and the ramp-up of new contracts in both Canada and the United States. South America increased 94% to $22 million. This performance was supported by the successful mobilization of several projects across the region. Our overall geographic mix remains well diversified with 38% of revenue generated in North America, 27% in Asia Pacific, 26% in South America and 9% in EMEA. Our commodity exposure was also diversified. Precious metals represented 34% of revenue, copper 18% iron ore, 12% nickel, 9%; coal, 8% and other commodities 2% and water 17%. Tier 1 customers represented 82% of revenue and juniors -- looking at the first 6 months of the year, revenue reached $161 million compared with $124 million in the first half of 2025, representing growth of 22%. For the 6-month period, gross margin was 13% compared with 18% in the first half of 2025, reflecting the same temporary factor discussed earlier. Year-to-date EBIT was $10 million compared with $12 million in the first half of last year, while EBITDA represented 15% of revenue compared with 17% a year ago. Turning now to cash flow and the balance sheet. Working capital increased to $15 million, reflecting the higher level of activity, the ramp-up of new contracts and the associated timing of receivables and project mobilization. This increase is consistent with the significant growth of the business during the period. Capital expenditures was $16 million during the first half related to the addition of 6 new drilling rigs and the supporting equipment required to execute our record $404 million order book announced at the beginning of the year. These investments are fully aligned with our long-term growth strategy and position the company to deliver this expanding backlog efficiently. As expected, net debt increased to $85.7 million, reflecting both the temporary working capital investment associated with our growth and our capital expenditure program. Importantly, our financial position remains strong, supported by $22 million of undrawn committed credit lines, providing ample financial flexibility to support future growth. With that, I will turn the call back to Tim. Tim?
Timothy Bremner
executiveThank you, Foraco delivered strong second quarter revenue growth, reflecting a broad-based recovery across both our mining and water segments. The increase in rig utilization from 35% to 51% confirms that demand is translating into substantially higher activity across the group. Our record backlog provides strong visibility through the second half of '26 and beyond. Importantly, this growth is diversified across commodities, customers, geographies and drilling applications with 82% of the revenue coming from our Tier 1 customers. Our immediate priority is margin improvement. Pricing adjustments are progressively catching up with higher labor, consumable, fuel and transportation costs. At the same time, recently mobilized projects are moving through their start-up phases and should become more efficient as they mature. The operating leverage in the business remains intact. At 51% rig utilization, we retain meaningful capacity to support additional growth with relatively limited incremental fixed cost. Further utilization gains, combined with better pricing and stronger project execution should support progressive EBITDA margin recovery towards the levels achieved in 2023 and 2024. The market outlook remains supportive. Gold prices are near record levels, structural supply deficits in copper and cobalt, increasing near-mine investment and improving financial conditions for junior and intermediate companies are all supporting sustained drilling demand. Water-related drilling also remains strong and continues to provide an important diversification. We will remain disciplined in how we pursue this opportunity. Our focus is on operational execution, pricing, margin improvement, capital allocation and cash generation while continuing to invest selectively in our fleet and our people to meet the long-term customer demand. In summary, Foraco enters the second half of 2026 in strong -- with strong revenue momentum, record backlog visibility, significant operating leverage and a clear path towards margin recovery. We believe these factors position the company to deliver substantial earnings and cash flow growth and create long-term value for our shareholders. Operator, we can now open the call for questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] First question is from Donangelo Volpe at Beacon Securities.
Donangelo Volpe
analystCongratulations on the results. I just wanted to hone in on the margins a little. So when we're looking at the year-over-year compression, I'm just wondering if it's possible to quantify how much is coming from labor and consumables inflation versus kind of lower initial productivity on new projects? Just trying to get a better perspective on how to look at the margin ramp-up through the remainder of the year and into 2027.
Timothy Bremner
executiveIt's a mix of both Donangelo, depending on the geography. And it's also a factor that the growth has not kicked in, in Australia yet, which is traditionally one of our higher-margin regions. That was more or less flat year-over-year. But it's a combination of the ramp-up of new projects in all regions, North America, particularly in the U.S., some in Canada and some in Latin America. But throughout the first half, there's been a serious inflection in pricing that's really outpaced cost increases for bits and other consumables and some labor that has really outpaced inflation. And we're seeing the drag-on effects of that. And as I mentioned earlier, we're in the midst of adjusting pricing on some existing projects and certainly pricing new projects at the appropriate level to accommodate these new increases. So the gap between now and last year was about 5%. And as I said, it's a combination of both. And as we work through the ramp-up on all the projects, particularly in South America, which were through, that cause of effect would be eliminated, and we're catching up on pricing. So you can -- we -- as I said, we're focusing on margin improvement, and we expect that to improve for the second half.
Donangelo Volpe
analystOkay. I appreciate the color there. And then I guess just pivoting a little bit to the outlook. So we've been tracking kind of stronger mining equity markets, which kind of began at the end of last year. Just wondering if you're starting to see increased tendering from juniors and intermediates at this moment and which commodities or regions are you seeing the greatest improvement?
Timothy Bremner
executiveThe tender pipeline is still very -- it's actually overflowing in some areas. It's very robust across all commodities, all customer profiles, juniors, intermediates, seniors. It's a pretty frothy market.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Frederic Tremblay from Desjardins.
Frederic Tremblay
analystI just wanted to ask first on the -- just the pricing dynamics. Can you comment on the magnitude of the price escalation that you're targeting? And if you believe that, that will fully cover your inflation pressures that you're seeing?
Timothy Bremner
executiveWell, Fred, I can't comment on any specific ones because those ones are confidential. But what I can say is some of the cost inputs that we're seeing and the inflation that we're seeing in the sector, labor is up over 10%, 15% in some regions. The biggest price increases we've seen in drilling consumables is coming from our cutting tools, drill bits, whether it's core bits or destructive drilling tools, Silver, tungsten are the biggest drivers of that. So in order to offset that, we have to look at increases that are going to cover that. They're going to be double digit. And depending on the project, the region, the geology that we're going through, there's some variance in that. What I can state is that none of those cost increases have been recognized in the first half, so they're yet to come.
Frederic Tremblay
analystOkay. Yes, that's super helpful. And just in terms of, I guess, your expectations for timing, you say nothing was recognized in the first half. How should we think about the price increases playing out in the second half and into 2027?
Timothy Bremner
executiveSo those discussions with our customers who are certainly understanding of our situation as they are of the entire industry. They're getting it from other suppliers as well. So those discussions are ongoing and with some earnest because they want to make certain that they can get their work done. And that means being able -- that means for us to be able to supply the people and to be able to deliver the work safely and efficiently. And they certainly understand that dynamic of our business and are working with us very collaboratively.
Frederic Tremblay
analystOkay. And the last one, if I may, just on the cash flow dynamics. Can you speak to working cap trends as we head into the second half as well as CapEx needs to support the growth and implications for free cash flow generation going forward?
Fabien Sevestre
executiveSo the free cash flow for the second quarter was $7 million. We're still running since the beginning of the year with a minus $13 million in free cash flow, but with a huge investment because the investment was $16 million, of which $8 million is related to contract to perform on the second part of the year. And in addition, we have our $14 million working capital linked to the increase of the level of activity. So the working capital is the seasonal working capital will be reversed in the second part of the year. And the investment will be lower for the second half of the year. So all of that will recover all the investments during -- before year end.
Operator
operatorStephen Green with [indiscernible].
Steven Green
analystLook, I won't dwell on -- I guess everybody dwelled on the profit, and I guess you've explained what's happening. And hopefully, these investments pay off. Can you just talk about -- did you get any new contracts or extensions of existing contracts in the first half of the year?
Timothy Bremner
executiveSo there's been a combination of extensions, renewals and new projects, all 3. And some of those don't meet the threshold for materiality for a press release, Stephen. So that's why there hasn't been any. And some have yet to be formalized. We have a letter of intent. We have a letter to proceed, but the documents actually have not been signed. So the ones that are material, we have not been in a position to put out a press release. So what I tried to convey is the fact that our order book continues to grow. We stated an order book of $404 million at January 1 or on our first results call for the full year of 2025. And despite burning through $151 million of that order book in the first half, we still have a record order book. So there is -- there have been a significant amount of new business that we've put into the order book. And we continue to receive a lot of tenders. We can't respond to all of them. In some cases, it's because we don't have the right equipment available in certain regions. or they don't fit the profile of the crews that we have available. So there's a lot of work that is being tendered that we're not able to respond to. But the absence of announcing new projects does not mean that the business -- the order book has not increased significantly.
Steven Green
analystAll right. And then I was going to ask about the debt. The debt went up pretty much significantly this quarter. Is that just borrowing for investment, and we're going to start paying that down again?
Fabien Sevestre
executiveThe debt will be reduced before year-end. We are impacted by our working capital that we need to finance. So this will reduce automatic the debt, improve the cash flow. And with the EBITDA that we are generating now, there is a lot of room to decrease our debt as we stated in our financial statement.
Steven Green
analystOkay. And what's your -- I mean, do you have a goal to get to $50 million? Or I mean what's the ideal ratio?
Timothy Bremner
executiveWe don't have a specific target, Stephen. We want to get the leverage ratio to acceptable level. We're going to -- we're not looking to repay all the debt. The debt today is manageable. We want it to be more manageable for sure. And debt reduction remains the #1 pillar of our capital allocation policy. But that doesn't mean we're going to pay the debt down to 0. Absolutely not. So we'll get it to a more manageable level before year-end and continue growing the business.
Steven Green
analystAll right. And then I think you guys do a great job. I've been a shareholder for a long time. I hate to be in mundane or pedestrian, but you talked about shareholder value. Shareholder -- the stock price is lower now than it was in October of '21 -- 2021, 5 years ago. So I understand that the business has got ups and downs and you guys are doing a good job and the backlog is going up. But shareholder value means the stock price going up. That's the only touch point I have to the company. So I don't know what to do, obviously. But maybe you guys -- I mean, your multiples of your multiples are so much lower on cash flow on EBITDA and everything to like Major Drilling and other drillers. I know they have a better balance sheet and stuff, but I think you're a better company. But maybe -- I mean, is there ever talk about selling the company or getting somehow unlocking the value of this company because the stock price hasn't gone up. We did the same -- it's lower than it was in 2021. So 5 years later, we did all these great things, and we're actually lower than we were in 2021. And we still haven't -- we don't get any recognition from the market.
Timothy Bremner
executiveNo, I certainly hear you, Stephen. And up until a couple of months ago, the stock was performing quite well. And I think just in recent weeks, Foraco has been significantly impacted by the broader market environment. Everything is down. And if you look at the TSX Material Index, it's down 3%. Foraco is down 4%. And in a downdraft environment like that, unfortunately, microcaps take it harder than others. And the stock has been volatile over the last while. What I can tell you is there is a lot of interest in Foraco. In the last 12 months, we turned over 56%, 53 million shares traded. That's the best liquidity that we've had. We've got the best shareholders structure that I can recall that we've had. The market is going in the right direction. Our multiple is way lower than it should be. The financials are going the right way. And I understand your frustration and certainly appreciate that you've been a shareholders for as long as you have and for that, we thank you. I would just say that today would be the absolute wrong time to jump ship. I can't see a better environment, notwithstanding what happens with the greater market because nobody knows. Nobody knows, and we're at the mercy of that, and you know that, too. But I think we're in the best position, Stephen, that we've ever been in, ever.
Steven Green
analystI understand that there are a lot of things out of your control, but there are some things that are like the appreciation for the market -- from the market is something that could be in your control. I guess you could do more outreach or whatever. But that's somewhat in your control. I just when the whole market goes down, but relative to the other companies in there, which I find you're a much better company, much higher quality and everything and you do in water segments and you specialize in things that no one else can do, and you have a huge value. And I just don't get it, you're not being appreciated. Even if the market goes up or down, your relative strength should be higher. And that's control. So I just want to express a little bit my frustration because look at the stock price, 2021, I look back and I like to say it's lower than that. And I know you've done a lot of improvements and the company is stronger and utilization rate is going up and you're in all the right metals and you have all the profitability and you're growing your book. And if I do $400 million of the business next year at 20% margins, $80 million -- you have $80 million in cash flow next year and your stock price, you're selling at 2x cash flow and you're growing. It's something I can't understand. I can't understand what no one else appreciates this company.
Timothy Bremner
executiveWell, again, we've got a significant new shareholding in the last 12 months. So I think there's a lot of pretty savvy investors that have taken significant position in Foraco, and that is giving me collective confidence that they believe in us and that the stock will perform the way that it should. So I get what you're saying. I truly do. And I'm happy to chat with you at any time during the quarter. So if maybe we should have another conversation that we can extend it out a little bit more, if you'd like. I'm happy to do that.
Steven Green
analystPlease talk to me and I appreciate that. I thought I hate any kind of grievances; you did have a great quarter. And I understand -- but I think that other shareholders might be feeling similar and just frustrated that you have such a great company and you're doing such a great job, and we just seem to be mired in small cap, I don't know what to say. But anyway, I don't want to dwell on that. I just want to add some praise. I'm not going anywhere. I've been in this company probably for 12 years or more, 14 years. I've seen a lot worse, but I just think this company deserves a better price.
Timothy Bremner
executiveWe totally agree with you.
Operator
operatorA follow-up from Donangelo Volpe with Beacon.
Donangelo Volpe
analystJust one more for me. I'm just wondering if you can provide an updated backlog figure relative to that $404 million order book at the end of last year. And just kind of what we should expect in terms of execution on that for the second half of this year and potentially into 2027.
Timothy Bremner
executiveSo we only report our order book once a year, Don Angelo, and that was the $404 million we did. And I think at the same time, we communicated that about $230 million was earmarked for 2026. So we can't give that kind of guidance at this time other than to say that the order book remains at record levels. And I think that it's the healthiest it's ever been.
Operator
operator[ Craig Ablack ] at [ Leede Jones Gable ].
Unknown Analyst
analystIt's great to see the industry demand continue to trend in the right direction. I had a couple of questions. Maybe just one really specific one to start. In the MD&A, you mentioned that the Asia Pacific revenue is down year-over-year due to the phasing of contract activity during the period. I was wondering if you could elaborate on that. Like what drove that? And what's going to happen in the rest of the year there?
Timothy Bremner
executiveSo the Asia Pacific market is extremely strong. It's as robust as any jurisdiction around the world. We had a couple of significant projects that were being renewed this year and have been renewed. And those customers, when they're going through the tendering stage, pull back on some of their activity. And that is the majority of the effect that we saw, particularly in Q1, which is generally very slow in Australia anyway because it's a summer break and whatnot. So 2 of our main customers, while they were going through this tendering process, pulled back a little bit more than they did in prior year. On top of that, 2025 was also an anomalous year where they were in real demand. So we had a particularly strong first half in Australia in 2025. So that's the other reason. But don't worry about the market in Australia. It's as healthy as it ever has been, and that -- those 2 projects have been renewed for us.
Unknown Analyst
analystThat's helpful. Okay. And then maybe just a big picture question. I mean, earlier, you mentioned that the tender pipeline was overflowing. Can you talk about how you expect that to translate to the business' fundamentals over the rest of the year? I mean, for example, maybe can you comment on utilization rates today or where you think that could end the year in terms of like what's a healthy target or a realistic target? Just any color on just kind of how you see this -- the fundamentals translating to FCF would be great.
Timothy Bremner
executiveSo when the tender comes in, there's 2 issues. One, it has to be suited for the equipment that we've got available, and there's got to be enough lead time. And a lot of companies, procurement departments look, let me back up a bit. It's hard for us to get our customers to give the lead time and the visibility that we need, especially when we're in a more active market like we are now. So a customer may put out a tender for a number of rigs for a pretty significant scope, maybe 18 months or 2 years. But the project start date is way too ambitious. And there's absolutely no way we can respond. We just cannot get the equipment ready. And their schedule is their schedule, and they need it. So a lot of that work we can't accommodate. There's also a lot of tenders that are very short term and are disconnected with our strategy of securing longer-term projects for Tier 1 customers. because that is easier for us to hire and retain crews on rather than participating in the spot market. So it's -- those things are disconnected with our strategy. But I think the tender pipeline remains strong. So there's lots of -- lots of opportunities for us to choose from, and we'll continue to build the business by picking the projects that are well suited for us and well suited for the customer.
Unknown Analyst
analystI mean I guess it seems like a healthy market. I understand there's gives and takes. I mean should we expect that utilization rate to continue to improve throughout the year or...
Timothy Bremner
executiveIf the market is sustained as we expect it would be, yes, you can expect to see the utilization rate to improve. We're going to be -- we're going to be ramping up in North America. We're going to be ramping up in Asia Pacific. But then offsetting that, it's winter in Latin America, especially in the Andes. So those rigs have come off. So there will be maybe a little bit of flatlining utilization rate. And then as we get into Q3 and Q4 and we get back into drilling season in the Andes, you'll see it pick up again. So it's kind of a little bit of flexibility mixed in caused by the seasonality.
Unknown Analyst
analystThat's helpful. And then maybe just one other big picture question. I mean, to the extent this cycle continues, you begin investing in the business, what kind of returns you look for on maybe expansionary CapEx? Or what are the unit economics of that look like? Just any color would be appreciated there as you think about the business and what you expect from it?
Timothy Bremner
executiveI'm not sure I 100% understand.
Unknown Analyst
analystI mean if you guys were to add new rigs, like what kind of returns do you look for those kind of investments?
Timothy Bremner
executiveGenerally, we will look for a payback of around certainly less than 2 years, ideally 18 months, something like that.
Operator
operatorWe have no further questions. I will turn the call back over to Tim Bremner for closing comments.
Timothy Bremner
executiveThanks very much, everybody, and we sincerely appreciate your continued interest in our company as we endeavor to work on the tasks that we've outlined here today and look forward to speaking to you all again in Q3 at the end of October.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating, and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.
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