Flowtech Fluidpower plc (FLO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

April 21, 2021

London Stock Exchange GB Industrials Trading Companies and Distributors earnings 52 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Speaker

unknown
#1

Morning, everyone, and thanks for joining the Flowtech Fluidpower plc results investor presentation. <<operator_script>> Just a reminder as well that this presentation is being recorded. Before we get started, we'd like you to take part in the poll below, and if you're able to hear it, we'd really appreciate your attention. At this point, I'll pass things over to Bryce Brooks, CEO, and Russell Cash, CFO, of Flowtech Fluidpower. Good morning to you both.

Russell Cash

executive
#2

Yes. Good morning.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#3

Morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. It's our first time using the Investor Meet company portal. From the list of people who've signed up for this presentation, it looks like we have a mix of 1 or 2 who've followed us for a good while and so know the story well. But equally, there are a number of people who may be learning about Flowtech for the first time. So in the first 5 minutes or so, I'll quickly try to bring everyone up to speed a little on who we are. That's why we're beginning with the slide deck in the appendix. After that, I'll move into the main bulk of our presentation. That main part will broadly cover 3 areas. We'll briefly discuss how COVID-19 has affected the organization. Then we'll talk to some degree about the financial outputs from that, which are obviously quite different from our normal financial performance. And then I'll focus on some of the key strategic decisions we've made and how we're developing our strategy as we hopefully evolve out of the COVID year and move forward into 2021 and into 2022.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#4

Let me give you some background on the organization and a bit about our leadership team. Obviously, there's me. I've been at Flowtech for 10 years. I joined the organization in 2010. It was already a well-established business, previously family-owned, that had moved into a private equity world. The private equity investments spanned the initial financial crash. So it had challenges in its balance sheet in 2010, but fundamentally, it was a very strong business. So I was the CFO at that time, working with Chief Executive, Sean Fennon. And we developed the business from 2010 to 2014, we've halted it on the A market. I stepped up to Chief Exec in 2018 when Sean retired. And I was joined by Russell Cash. So maybe you should give yourself an introduction?

Russell Cash

executive
#5

Yes. And regarding being up in a little bit — an odd surname for an accountant, when my parents, once upon a time, must have had a sense of humor. I've got a fairly, I suppose, with respect to a different type of background to most CFOs of quoted companies and that I spent over 1/4 of the century, I've seen the world of turnaround and restructuring. So joining Bryce at Flowtech 2.5 years ago was actually my first venture into industry. But I didn't know it at the time, but obviously, some of the challenges that our friend, COVID threw at us, I was able to dust off some of the turnaround, it's not the right word, but you know where I'm coming from this steady head and stabilization type, but staying quite useful. So in my DNA, I guess, there is a lot of stuff around controlling cash and controlling costs. And I think 2.5 years on, if you follow the story, you'll begin to see some of that coming through quite strongly.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#6

So it turns out that the rest of the Nonexecutive team was headed by Roger McDowell, who served as Chairman from 2014 until the change in 2020. We have Malcolm Diamond as Chairman, and he brings broad experience. He was Former Chairman of the Year and is Chairman of Trifast, which is his main legacy business. But Roger stepped up when Malcolm retired last year. Roger has wide-ranging experience across a number of businesses. He has served as chair in all 3 of the organizations. And style-wise, there is probably a shift in style from under Malcolm to under Roger — very process-driven, very proactive and active in our management style, and that is something that certainly Russell and I welcome. Nigel Richens has been a continuity person right the way through from Flow, and he was previously an audit partner with PwC in charge of their technical department before retiring 6 or 7 years ago. So Nigel chairs our audit remuneration side of things. And then, more laterally, we have the appointments of Paul Gedman. This is Paul's only plc appointment, but his heritage is firmly any business. He was one of the key protagonists in the developments of The Hut Group, working with the Chief Executive there, Matt Moulding. He left The Hawk Group as part of its flotation last year and is now establishing his own portfolio of interest, all with an e-business and data element to it.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#7

And hopefully, that's something you'll notice going forward. As for the broader context of the group, we're a specialist niche industrial distribution company centered on the fluid power market — that means hydraulics and pneumatics. We distribute on behalf of the vast majority of the major global brands, and we have roughly 620 employees across the U.K., Ireland, and in the Netherlands and the Benelux. But the bulk of our business — the vast majority — sits in the U.K. and Ireland. Right now, we operate out of about 19 sites. That's down considerably, though, from 27 sites 3 years ago, when we closed our last acquisition, as part of an M&A program. So we're working through a reduction of our overall footprint, and obviously there are improvements in operational efficiency that flow from that. From a reporting standpoint, and very much from a management standpoint, we've split into 2 discrete divisions. There have been some developments there that I'll cover in the main book of the presentation. But component distribution, with a lot of technical added value requirements that come with it, is the core of what we do. So yes, some parts of it are fast-paced and high-service-driven.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#8

But at the same time, some parts of it demand deep technical expertise to help an OEM, say, with designing a new hydraulic circuit for a piece of construction equipment. Alongside that sits a Services division, mostly concerned with making power packs and humidifiers, plus on-site work, particularly in hydraulics. So we have a Services division that complements our core components business. On overall market size, in the U.K., the fluid power sector is put at roughly GBP 1 billion at pre-COVID levels. Of course, as with many sectors, there were some difficulties during 2020. Even so, the view in the market is that a return to normal levels will come in the period 2022, 2023. So it is a sizable market, and we are the largest player thanks to substantial growth after our float in 2014, in the U.K. and Irish markets. Across Europe overall, circa GBP 13 billion. Globally, GBP 46 billion in most westernized economies. And in total, I have seen some commentators speak of a GBP 100 billion market. On the right-hand side of this slide, you can see it is very broadly framed in terms of its key areas of focus.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#9

Construction presents a steeper decline when viewed as electronic general engineering. In our view, we also function as a substantial distributor across other distribution channels. That makes it very much a resale-driven market. The main points to draw from this: Flowtech is a sizeable business — the biggest participant across its home territories of the U.K. and Ireland, at roughly GBP 100 million in current volumes. Yet it holds only around 10% market share. As for what is addressable for a pure distribution operation, that could be as little as 30 equal to size 50%, depending on which precise criteria you use. So once more, we sit at roughly 20%, perhaps, of that addressable market. A large market, then, with plenty of room for us to grow from that standpoint. Okay. Hopefully that gives viewers a feel for the backdrop. So the sector overall shows a flattish curve in our distribution-focused business, which carries plenty of value-added elements — services, technical support, a strong service offering from that angle. On the key features of our proposition from an investment standpoint: we operate as the biggest player in a fragmented marketplace, and our footprint is substantial, both in pure geography and in the reach we have with all the major global manufacturers.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#10

Eaton, Danfoss, Parker, and Bosch Rexroth are still multibillion global manufacturers that demand highly efficient technical competence and a strong e-business digital-based distribution network. And a great deal of our growth potential sits in the organic growth we can deliver from that position. But over time, and as we have done historically, complementary acquisitions can be added. And it goes without saying that our leadership team, we believe, is quite well experienced and ambitious, and is now strengthened by some developments we've completed this year, adding to the bandwidth and skill set we possess. COVID-19. Obviously, we all are aware of this and its effects, and we want to just enshrine on one slide perhaps the key effects, and Russell is going to lead when it comes to the financial aspects of this.

Russell Cash

executive
#11

Thanks, Bryce. Bryce just employed the term I earlier described as having five letters and starting with c. On this slide's lower graph, the dark bar represents 2019, a typical year. The lighter bar stands for the annus horribilis—I'll borrow the queen's phrase there. To put some figures in your mind regarding how the 4 quarters unfolded: Q1 actually shows an 11% decrease versus 2019. We felt fairly happy about our trajectory at that point, though naturally the first nationwide lockdown on the 23rd of March—the final 8 days of that quarter—somewhat depressed the figures for the whole quarter. Q2 was the quarter horribilis, with us 33% lower overall. Inside that, April came in at 41%, 4-1 percent, lower. Conditions improved considerably, or became less bad—depending on whether you see the glass as half empty—we were 14%, 1-4 percent, lower in Q3, and in Q4 just 5% lower. So we've experienced, in a sense, a pleasant gradient along our road to recovery, and pleasingly that has carried on into Q1 of 2021. Yet—and the wording on this slide was picked carefully and presented deliberately—in summary, recovering rather than fully recovered from COVID.

Russell Cash

executive
#12

You have to keep in mind that the Q4 figure, down 5%, is actually measured against a weak comparative. And as I mentioned, Q1 of this year has gotten off to a good start, though we remain, you know, well below where Q1 stood in a typical year like 2019. Second thing, before I pass it back to Bryce to handle the remaining 3. It's fairly obvious, but we went out — looked for the chance to renew our banking facilities with Barclays Bank. That was done last November. We now have another 3 years of facilities on the same aggregate GBP 25 million deposit pound notes. And naturally, and quite sensibly, we used the opportunity to go back over the key governance. Specifically, we reset the leverage covenant, which would have stripped us up had we not done that, again, clearly, owing to the absence of underlying profitability brought about by the 5-letter word starting with c. So one more item before I hand over to Bryce, just for those of you who have tracked us, you'll notice that at the close of 2020, roughly a small rounding element, but roughly, we are carrying 50% of the debt burden we had 2 years earlier.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#13

When it comes to how COVID has affected operations, we've spent thousands of hours of management time, as many companies have, handling the issues we have to handle. One aspect of our business — we run from Cork to Belfast to Rotterdam and a number of places in between, but we have 2 major sites in Skelmersdale and Leicester, and both of those, as you may remember, sat right in the middle of COVID-19 outbreak hotspots back in the good old days of the tiered system. We're very pleased that both of those sites stayed open the whole way through. No operational days were lost. Every one of our sites managed to reach full safety compliance with all the protocols a modern business like ours was required to follow, and we're happy with how that has worked out — we'll discuss our employee engagement scores later in this presentation. But one point probably worth noting is that we'll recover commercially from this particular aspect. Right now there are significant knock-on effects on the global supply chain. Some of that is for very good reasons — demand is rising quite substantially when it comes to refilling that stock hopper, so to speak.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#14

However, our supply chain leans heavily on Europe, and like every supply chain, it also has a broader global dimension, especially sourcing from the far East. As a result, we are noticing some drag effects from that during Q1 and now into Q2 when it comes to stock availability in certain areas. It is not hugely material right now, and we are handling it in a very positive way. Still, some drag does exist, and so for the rest of this year, we believe the outlook will certainly continue to include these kinds of drag effects.

Russell Cash

executive
#15

Alright, weak figures. On revenue, we've likely covered it enough. As I mentioned, the beginning of 2021 gives us encouragement. One view is that some confidence is building in the U.K. thanks to the vaccine rollout's relative success, and equally, perhaps paired with a degree of worry among certain customers regarding supply chain and relative type. In fact, some of our customers may currently be stocking their own shelves or inventory a bit. But certainly, for an early mover in a bubble-type stretch, what we're seeing definitely encourages us. And that ties to the gross margin point. It isn't just revenue, which we grew, it's the quality of our gross margin. On the surface, this single slide viewed alone shows a 146 basis point drop in our GP. But don't let that alarm you. The points I'll make are that in 2017, we stood at 33.8%. And across a 2-year span, we felt we did a pretty solid job of transitioning and already a very strong margin reaching 35.7% that you see in the right-hand column. And the fact that it has dipped slightly is fully accounted for by 3 key reasons.

Russell Cash

executive
#16

This — 2019 benefited from margin help thanks to some income generated by selling our hard copy catalogs to a number of customers. Bryce will return to that — maybe that's a bit old-fashioned looking ahead. Second, the detail about the cost we place above the gross profit line, it does include some direct labor costs. And I suppose the audience will appreciate that "direct" might be somewhat of a misnomer given the fixed nature of certain elements of that in a year when your volumes suffer. And third, the mechanics, I really won't bore you with this one, but the mechanics of our consistently acquired stock provision mean that, again, the lower volume caused by that 5-letter word, beginning with c, does us no favors. But all in all, we're pretty proud of that margin and within — and all of our DNA is not sacrificing margin whilst in the pursuit of revenue. So on costs, again, those who have followed us would have seen our ambition to take old world inefficient costs out of our businesses. And then two, fairly obviously, that was centered around people and properties.

Russell Cash

executive
#17

On the personnel side, our headcount came down 7%, which is 45 heads during 2020, and that compares with a payroll bill of roughly GBP 20 million. So 7% of GBP 3 million. In a similar vein, we've exited 5 properties, and those are typically sites where we'd bought the previously rather inefficient warehousing picking operations and moved them into our far more efficient locations in Skelmersdale and Leicester. So of what we set out to do, we've delivered the significant majority. There are still pieces left for us to finish over the coming 12, 18 months. And perhaps there are certain items we're starting to spot that could add to that up pop in the fullness of time — stressing the fullness of time. So if we've taken, if you like, what I'd describe as the old world, inefficient cost down, we've sensibly chosen to put money into some new world investment areas. Bryce will cover these a few slides from now, but I'll just headline the business and digital agenda — the e-business rather than the e-commerce. Bryce will explain how we see the difference there. And equally, and importantly, we've brought in 4 or 5 senior people — top quality people sitting immediately below the plc Board level — and significantly strengthened our management team.

Russell Cash

executive
#18

Regarding the debt, on a like-for-like basis, it's down by GBP 5 million in 2020. And as my profession would lead me to do, I can add it up — the gap between those first and last bars comes to GBP 5.9 million. That GBP 0.9 million is the piece that's support from revenue and customs. You're probably aware they permitted U.K. go through solely to make a further payment of the Q1 2020 BFPA. So GBP 5 million on a like-for-like basis. I think what seeps out here, of course — I mean, it equally comes out in the 2019 equivalent bridge — is that across the 2 years, we've pulled GBP 12 million, GBP 13 million out of our working capital. And that's among the main reasons we're running at debt of roughly 50% of what we carried 2 years ago. If we were to build a go-forward bridge, a really key point, and in some ways a very plain one, is that it's working capital, and a lot has been digging green over the last 2 years. It's going to be quite a bit in the red in 2021. And clearly, as volumes start coming back, an increase in our receivables goes hand-in-hand with that.

Russell Cash

executive
#19

And similarly, from a position of comparative strength against our rather fragmented competitor base in the U.K., we do think it makes sense to put a bit of stock back onto our shelves so we can capitalize on perhaps some spurts of demand, and to be sure we limit those instances where we haven't got sufficient -- quite sufficient stock on our own channel. So we consider that a sensible investment of the headroom we've generated within our banking facility. For 2021, those of you who look at either this usual finnCap analyst notes will have observed that we aren't expecting much in the way of debt reduction in 2021. As a matter of fact, it's fair to say the only green blob, hopefully, will be a considerably larger green blob, namely tax generated from operations; everything else will be red. And that green will really equal the sum of the reds. So minimal debt reduction in 2021 is the red line.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#20

When it comes to how I'd vet things for investors who are just getting familiar with our position, as Russell laid out, one discipline governs how we run the business: an absolute focus on gross profit percentage. Every day, all of our businesses send us reports covering day GP, multi-day GP, how it compares with last year's GP, and how it compares with current year GP. That is the absolute DNA of how we operate. Investors should therefore take some degree of confidence that the 35 percentage points of GP represents the consistent output this particular sector delivers, and we see it as a significant strength. Underneath that, we are very disciplined about cost per transaction — cost per drop, cost per pick, cost per order — the fundamental flow of operational cost, and a key part of what we've worked through over the past couple of years, whether in our KPIs, our reporting, our actions, or our management, is all built around making sure we tighten as much as possible the cost of handling our per-transaction elements. At the same time, we've chosen to take the benefits we attained from that and build additional resources and specialisms that are building the platform for us to move the business forward significantly from an organic perspective.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#21

Also, back when we first entered the market, some commentators took issue with how we handled working capital. And with any luck, looking at the annus horribilis of the last 2 years, as Russell mentioned, GBP 15 million to GBP 16 million came out of our working capital investment — part of that from the natural COVID-19 reduction — and that's another area of discipline where we're very strong. Turning to how our overall group strategy is developing, and as part of the new constitution of the plc Board, we prepared an outline strategy paper toward the end, and it went through full analysis with Roger McDowell and the rest of the NEDs. The key aspects of it I'll now walk you through. Our belief is that this builds the platform for organic growth and a cash-generative goal over the long term. On branding styles, historically we've run independent traded profit centers with local brands that in fact carry long-term heritage. But for 2 reasons — the amortization of life and the progressive shift to online platforms — having multiple, separate trading branding styles doesn't resonate in an online world. And second, the demands of our customer base.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#22

From where we sit as the biggest participant in this market, that's plainly what we're seeing. We serve the same customer through several different businesses. Take any one customer—we might still have 4, 5 accounts active there. So we've made the call to move forward with 2 branding sales, Flowtech and Fluidpower Group. Flowtech is going to carry our high-service proposition, which historically leaned toward catalog, though it's shifting more and more toward online operations. Its heritage rests on high service, wide stock availability, and solid technical competence. That said, it's tied quite tightly to that kind of proposition. On the Fluidpower Group side, the heritage is strong technical competency built largely around OEMs, and we've picked the reasonably broad branding approach of the Fluidpower Group. Of course, Flowtech Fluidpower Group is the name of our plc. All of this will sit beneath one e-business architecture. So over the coming year and 2 years, we'll transition commercially to 2 brands, at differing speeds depending on what's happening in each individual business. When it comes to our reporting segments, though, we report 3 segments in turn. We divide Fluidpower Group into 2. One shares operational resources heavily, with its heritage in the Flowtech operation. The other is our Services business. So from the commercial market's perspective, there will be 2 brands.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#23

For those of you in our investor community, you'll see 3 trading segments. Two of those — Flowtech Fluidpower Group solutions — are the components that have historically been reported, so there ought to be a reporting chain that's clear and that people can follow. As we've discussed beneath that, we have made a substantial investment in e-business platforms. So what separates e-commerce from e-business? Well, Flowtech has long been regarded as the top name in the e-commerce space. That portal is an older one, where we hold a broad range of stock, and our customers can go in and search on it. However, it isn't what you'd describe as a cutting-edge offering in today's world. We're going to move out of that e-commerce setting and into a fully fledged e-business setting. That will involve a vastly enlarged product set, both held in stock and integrated with our own supply systems, plus search capabilities that are, once again, in line with the modern world and a major step up from what exists today. Underneath that, yes, there will be my dashboard capabilities, contemporary aesthetics when it comes to how the site looks, so it appeals to the increasingly younger buying community that we're serving in this particular area. And beyond that, there's an aspect of future proofing.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#24

Right now, our websites are hard coded into our legacy ERP systems, and we'll discuss more of our developments on that in due course. But what we're investing in here will be a much more flexible, future-proofed result. We have around 11,000 live accounts tradables in 2020. Over the last 3 to 4 years, we've put as many as 17,000 different accounts over that period who interact with the business. So an enormous amount of data coming into the organization. And when we couple that with the development in a new customer data platform, we believe that there's significant value that can be extracted from this. We'll create the golden record at a single view of a customer. Behind that, on the insight, we're going to get at a product set, a supplier set geographically. These are going to be of immense value tools, and we believe that will have commercial use for us in developing organic sales with our current customer set into new customers, equally sharing the benefits of that with our major supply and customer partners. So rather than being a link in a chain which distributors have historically taken, we'll be a key part of that particular jigsaw.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#25

For us, this investment is fairly small when you look at online as a whole, though within our organization it matters a great deal. The process kicked off back in 2020, when we put money in. In 2021, though, it will come to roughly GBP 1.25 million, split between OpEx and CapEx. We expect to go live sometime later in the year — hopefully in Q4. We remain on track to finish an 18-month implementation period, and we should see meaningful traction in 2022 and beyond. So the entire e-business and data agenda — turning ourselves into a data-driven organization — is a central pillar of our strategy. We think this will set us apart enormously from our historically smaller, usually older managed competitors in the U.K., both when it comes to resources and to technical capability. Elsewhere, we know our Services division, which is now clearly defined both in revolt and operationally thanks to the work we've completed, is plainly underperforming financially. Getting back to profitability is our immediate goal. The 2021 budget calls for a profit, and we are on budget. Investment in this particular part of our business runs to approximately GBP 4 million. Our thinking is that a minimum return on capital of about 20% is the near-term target, and we're confident we'll get there over the short to medium term.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#26

But we are carrying out a thorough top-to-bottom review of the company. During this year alone, our leadership team—a leadership grouping—has been changed. We have made productivity measures better. Our pricing methods have been altered, which has improved margins and stock, and we are very pleased about that, and every element of its governance, from health and safety to technical capabilities to minimum educational recommendations, is being implemented. It is a key part of what we do, but clearly it has to what you face and be fit for purpose financially, and that is something we will keep a strong and careful eye on as we move forward. In other major areas, we spoke a little about our investment in our extra skill set. We have now established a Management Board with skills covering leading-edge operating development capabilities. Stephen Ashton is appointed to the new role there. He will cater for all our logistics and long-term supply chain planning. We split our operational leadership between Nick Fossey and Ian Simpson, both with long-term leadership roles with us. With those, we have now added to in product quality, engineering, compliance, systems in IT and in HR issues, which we will talk a bit more about in our ESG agenda. Target markets absolute clarity in U.K., Ireland and the Europe with our Netherlands operation.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#27

That said, because we share supply arrangements with the really big global manufacturers, markets close to Europe and even farther away will always hold potential as fertile ground for us, though our absolute focus in the medium term is the U.K., Ireland, and the Netherlands. Past that, we right now run on 4 legacy IT business process systems, every one of them resilient and built on cloud-based infrastructure. That said, we see a need to get better in 2 specific areas: first, long-term resilience — our core IT environment is roughly 20 years old, which is the reason for what we're doing today. In the medium term, without question, that situation will come under more stress. But at the same time, a modern ERP package can deliver productivity gains in certain areas. We believe in our investment in IT resources and project management resources, and we've completed 4 system changes in the last year alone. Our overall resilience means we're positioned to take on that kind of challenge. And I'm confident we'll get there by at least 2024. So we're beginning that process today. Just to reiterate, though, our investment in the business platform is very much capable of being hooked into any ERP provider that we look into.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#28

That transition won’t carry any material costs. It’s really about where management capabilities sit and, for commercial sales, the entire process and purchase order processing environment. So those are, overall, the main strategic initiatives we’re working on right now. All of it is aimed at building a platform for organic sales growth and for share gains in those home geographies. ESG ranks high on many investors’ agendas, but for good reasons it ranks high on ours too, and we’re examining in full our environmental impacts and our impact on employees. Russell?

Russell Cash

executive
#29

Absolutely. And it's plainly becoming more and more significant to investors, as Bryce mentioned, and plainly significant to us too. Bryce will cover some of the material that we're genuinely rather proud of regarding how we've looked after our people through the pandemic circumstances — we're proud of that as well. On the environmental side, we acknowledge that we required some assistance. So we brought in an organization named Carbon Responsible. They've devoted some time to a fairly deep examination of what goes on at each of our 19 sites. And then, I suppose, regrettably, they've obviously started discussing the setting of targets for CO2 initiatives tied to our headcount and to the size of our revenue. We have a session roughly 3 or 4 weeks from now in which we'll build on the preliminary work they've completed, and develop and refine those targets, and report further back to our investor base about how we're progressing. As part of that session, we'll start talking about Scope 3 emissions. We understand what that pertains to. But needless to say, we've always been eager, and we stay eager, to have partners who treat these matters just as seriously as we do.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#30

When it comes to our people, plenty of companies emphasize how much their staff matter. Ultimately, your employees are all you've got, and from that standpoint we're just like anyone else. The COVID stretch really put that culture to the test as far as we're concerned. And I'm happy to report that, in our judgment, we came through it with flying colors. We run operations across multiple sites. As I mentioned, we operate from Cork to Belfast to Rotterdam, covering every point in between. So when the leadership group couldn't travel during the various lockdown periods, responsibility really fell to our local management teams to handle their own particular areas, and they've performed a fantastic job on that front. On mental health, once again, it's been high profile over the past year. Our industry is quite traditional. In the past it hasn't been a leader in this area. I'm very pleased to report that we were the first business in our sector -- within our governing body, BFPA. We've taken hold of this particular issue, brought in mental health for stages. We offer mental well-being support via an enterprise employee assistance program, available not only to employees but to their close family members, and it saw great takeup over the course of the year.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#31

Since 2019, we’ve been measuring and scoring ourselves on overall employee engagement. Even with COVID-19, the response we received represented a major improvement from that standpoint. There’s still more work ahead on overall engagement, yet we’re quite happy with the progress we’ve made both in how we treat people and in how we support and build talent as we continue moving forward. Capital allocation.

Russell Cash

executive
#32

All right. So here's a cautious way of framing what we're doing regarding our notes. I think over roughly the past half hour, we've shown that we aren't certain about where we believe the very sensible places to invest are. Our talks have gone from a position of strength — placing some stock in our own shares — to the potential kinds of game changers in e-business and ERP systems. We haven't touched much, and I'll just bring it up now, on our key warehousing and logistics centers in Skelmersdale and Leicester; they're already really impressive, in my view. But we recognize we shouldn't rest on our laurels. There's probably a bit more we can do to make them even more efficient. All design talks ultimately deliver that cost per pick metric of GBP 2.40. And we obviously remain mindful of the ongoing need to control our debt. You saw they are only as good as your last year type mantra, and so that will definitely stay within our mindsets. And thankfully, like I said, we've generated healthy headroom within the bank facilities and within the bank covenants, but we do respect that. And equally, we know that for certain investors the dividend remains either important or really important.

Russell Cash

executive
#33

The main takeaway, though, is that the dividend won’t follow a pre-pandemic formula. It had gotten to 6 point-something pence per share — put differently, GBP 4 million. Said another way, that’s a yield of 14% or 15% when the share price stood at 44p (sic) 4.04p on one day last year. So it won’t be formulaic, and you’ll have noticed that the analysts’ sorted notes penciled in roughly 2p per share as a final dividend at the start of the year we’re in now. And obviously, we don’t believe that’s out of kill. At that level, though, we’d see ourselves as in with the crowd when it comes to yield, rather than an outline in the other direction.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#34

For anyone who has been tracking our story since 2014, we have consistently viewed ourselves as a business that generates cash, and so we have worked toward paying a dividend. One thing I can point to is a stretch when we positioned ourselves around a 5p dividend climbing toward 6p. The size of the investment opportunity, along with the potential for organic growth, is something we underestimated back in those early days. So I think this is a very sensible reflection of the fact that shareholders have often told us, many times over, why aren't you putting your cash into that specific area of growth. And I think we are using this — obviously this represents a change in our approach, born out of, yes, the COVID period, which let us reassess that. And I think what we have laid out over the past couple of days regarding our stance will partly strike a chord with most growth-oriented investors, while also appealing to those who appreciate the income aspects of what we offer over the potential longer term. So, to sum up, we believe we have handled COVID-19 well. Beyond that, we have kept working on extraction efficiencies across our network, a constant focus on the cost of transaction components of things.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#35

Yes, overall we have put money into our systems and our people, into management skills and bandwidth. And we have made sure that the working capital we invest there stays under control. But as we move into 2021, we'll develop our branding style, change the commercial benefit, and reinvest heavily in B2E e-business and data, becoming an organization that is much more driven by data. We will make sure that our Services division reaches, as quickly as possible, a sensible financial return for its overall position in our group. And as we discussed, we strongly believe that developing a long-term sustainability plan covering environmental and people-related issues is a key part of what we should have as an offer. Our outlook overall, in terms of trading in the first quarter of the year: we are above -- slightly above our expectations. So we have reintroduced guidance on that in terms of our outlook from that perspective. You hope because I'm sure. From there -- but generally, we feel quite positive. Both revenue and margins are heading in the right direction. And in terms of the medium-term outlook, if 2019 is a benchmark at GBP 112 million, we think at the moment the outlook looks reasonable that we could exit this year at around those levels as a run rate.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#36

From what I understand, the analysts have put together a consensus figure—as I mentioned, roughly GBP 102 million—and we're comfortable treating that as a baseline, though ideally our thinking goes somewhat beyond that specific number in a more favorable direction. That wraps up what the presentation covers in total. With that, I hope we can move into a Q&A session now.

Speaker

unknown
#37

That's lovely. And Bryce, Russell, thank you so, so much, truly, for the presentation. <<operator_script>> But while the company takes a few moments to go through those investor questions that have already been submitted, I want to remind everyone that a recording of this presentation, together with a copy of the slides and the published Q&A, is available through your Investor Meet company dashboard, and an e-mail will be sent to let you know once it's ready for you to review. <<operator_script>> Bryce, Russell, I realise I haven't given you a great deal of time to look at the questions coming in today, and I can see you're doing a really good job opening the Q&A tab on 2 screens at once. But if I could just ask you, Bryce, to open up that Q&A tab on the right-hand side, and if I could ask you to read the questions out and perhaps respond where it's appropriate to do so. Then I'll take over from you at the end, and as I said, if you could read the question out, that would be much appreciated?

Bryce Brooks

executive
#38

All right, well, excellent. We have quite a few questions lined up, so we'll move through them briskly to make good use of our time — but many thanks for the considerable interest we've received here. So, the first question: given how large the market opportunity could be, how do you plan to extend your reach outside the U.K.? Would that happen organically, or by way of M&A? Well, this breaks down into 2 parts. First, clearly, new business platforms span multiple geographies. There's a view that the operational footprint needed to underpin an online capability might either be ours, or we could hand that to one of the big logistics specialists — DHL, TNT, and so on — in Europe. And to repeat, we have 2 trading businesses in the Netherlands, and we think we could certainly leverage the operational footprint there to grow an online platform. What we've described as an absolute focus on offline plus online in the near term is in the U.K. and Ireland. We think the scale of opportunities for us there to grow organically and inorganically in due course is overwhelmingly positive for us. That said, as I mentioned, the product set is universal and global. So the possibility of growing further in Europe is something we've examined extensively before and will certainly be back on our agenda, though more over the medium to longer term.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#39

Do you see any new products or areas that are complementary and that you could move into? Well, yes — we do have adjacent markets, especially in industrial valves, actuated valves, and electrohydraulic systems, definitely in those specific areas. And although we focus specifically on fluid power, that market in the U.K. is roughly GBP 1 billion. Valves and related products run into the hundreds of millions. We also have one specialist business, hydrovalve, which is strong in that marketplace and is a brand generating 10% of what Flowtech does. So even though the message we emphasize is fluid power, the potential to grow in other areas is considerable. And clearly, once you are on an online platform, you can expand into other areas. The major players in this marketplace — Irish components, for instance, known through the Rubix name, the former brand of the business ERIKS — are similarly multiproduct set areas. We ourselves have been specialized and large in our own particular niche. But obviously, online platforms, implemented well, which we will do, give us some scope there, definitely. What do you view as the great risk for the business as it moves through 2021? Well, hopefully you have seen — we have shown resilience in a number of areas.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#40

We don’t have any particular exposure to specific sectors. Construction is historically the biggest part of what we do, yes, but overall I think there’s a feeling of optimism around construction. And the long-term perspective, when we provide market information in our report and accounts from altered economics, is that this underlying level of construction activity will serve as a steady GDP driver across the sector as a whole. On supply chain dynamics, there are probably significant China-related elements, both — as I’ve mentioned, part of what we do — but in the global supply chain overall. So you have that political-type situation, longer term, though hopefully with relatively low risk. Beyond that, we fully review the risk areas in our report and accounts, and each one, we believe, is well under control. Largest operator? Who are the main competitors? The ones I’ve mentioned at the top end are Irish Components, Rubix, ERIKS — all GBP 1 billion, GBP 2 billion plus organizations across Europe. But in the U.K., they are much more modestly sized relative to us. And all of them are actually top 20 customers, which just gives you a sense of where we sit.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#41

Beyond that, it's quite fragmented across small, older moneys businesses in the U.K. and Ireland. So there's nothing that poses a very clear and obvious danger to our competitive position. What are the ROCE targets for each of the businesses? Rather than talking investors speak, I'll talk a bit more about how we approach this from a working capital and overall investment in a profit center basis. Our entire remuneration policy in the group is based around return on capital set at 20% of the specific working capital invested in that particular business. We historically have businesses that have operated at 40% to 50%. When you buy leverage to that, you do the mathematics yourself. So we believe that the innate returns that can be created from our already established businesses is strong. If you look at multiples in our marketplace from, say, M&A activity, we've historically -- excuse me, acquired businesses at circa 5 and 6x multiples, and we have nothing to suggest that the current standard of that will change in the medium term. Could you describe how Flowtech and Fluidpower Group work together? Well, there's 2 key areas. One is sharing of operational resources. They can work from the same logistics platform.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#42

And then second, there's the matter of sharing the key brands. In the past, Flowtech carried a lot of own-brand products focused on the Far East. Certain key brands back that up, while Fluidpower Group concentrated on top-tier global hydraulic brands — names like finnCap, Danfoss, Eaton, Parker, and so on. Those 2 branding approaches, right now sitting in separate IT environments, are going to be brought together onto one single new business platform. That means Flowtech gains the ability to sell hydraulic brands it previously didn't specialize in, and equally, Fluidpower Group gets access to Flowtech's logistics capabilities, which creates a complementary setup between the two.

Speaker

unknown
#43

Bryce, I'm just jumping in here — you've covered, I believe, every question investors have sent through. So thanks to you and to Russell for giving us so much of your time, and the timing works out perfectly since we're at the hour anyway. If there's nothing more to add, maybe I could ask you for a few closing remarks. After that, since I know investor feedback matters, I'll wrap up the session and point investors toward sending you their feedback.

Russell Cash

executive
#44

From where I sit, the nice thing — and I've been a CEO who was previously a CFO — is that he's completely on top of the numbers. So I can simply listen closely. But there was one secondary point tied to Jerry's question, I think, regarding the part about putting money into our own inventory. So to follow up on that, to be clear, we aren't aiming to go crazy. Our aim was to reinvest in a sensible way — in our more popular, faster-moving currency, obviously, to the degree that we enjoy the advantage of having the supply on our shelves while our competitors don't, the significant demand. Well, yes, we ought to be able to enhance the margin up to the level Jerry raised there.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#45

Okay, so taking everything into account — for those investors who’ve tracked our story and are also asking why the share price is relatively modest in terms of where it sits, we’ve come a long way since 2014. I’d frame it in 2 ways. First, the stretch when we pursued substantial expansion via M&A was opportunity-driven — the scale of what was available in those early days surprised us. And without question, that effort to build scale behind it was plainly part of every step along that particular path. I think, without question, there were integration difficulties, difficulties in making sure we built out the platform. Hopefully, observers will say that over the last 3 years, our most recent acquisition — Beaumanor and Derek Lane under the blue banner in March 2018 — has been a very successful investment for us, with only a GBP 10 million fund raise at that particular point in time. But we’ve now spent 3 years working tirelessly on the platform — understanding the dynamics of our business and building IT resources and management resources and a clear understanding of our position in the marketplace. We’re now ready to continue organic growth as we all recover from the COVID-19 period.

Bryce Brooks

executive
#46

The growth drivers going forward are still both organic and inorganic, in terms of what we see as our potential. And with the reset — so to speak — of our dividend policy, that ought to provide the internal resources, from our cash generation, to make sure we build the snowball that we have always seen from this standpoint. Hopefully, we are fairly open in our style and approach with shareholders. So if anyone on this call would like more information about the organization, you can reach us through the usual channels — our PR, Fiona Tooley — and obviously via the usual soft connections by e-mail. So hopefully, you found that informative. Flowtech is a business very much at the point of — moving on again, a relaunch, so to speak. And we believe we have put the platform in place for us to move on from where we are today.

Speaker

unknown
#47

Bryce, Russell, thanks again for bringing investors up to date today. I'd like to ask investors please not to shut this session down, because you'll be automatically redirected so you can give your feedback. If you joined this meeting through our website, a feedback page will come up and you'll just be asked to complete the feedback. And if you joined this meeting through the link that was sent to you by e-mail, you'll just be asked to log back in and submit your feedback, and we'd be very grateful. And I think understanding your views and expectations would be a great benefit to the company. On behalf of the management team of Flowtech Fluidpower, I'd like to thank you very much for attending today's presentation. That now concludes today's session, and good morning to you all. Thank you once, again.

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