Fluence Corporation Limited (FLC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 30, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorThank you for standing by, and welcome to the Fluence Corporation 2021 Half Year Business Update. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Richard Irving, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead.
Richard Irving
executiveThank you, Bernadette. Appreciate the introduction. And good morning to those of you joining from Australia, and good evening to those of you in the U.S. We spoke to you about a month ago with a Q2 update, our quarterly activities report, that I think shares a fair amount of what we'll say in this call. But there are a few things that we wanted to make sure that you have the opportunity to hear from us directly and have the opportunity also to ask questions about. I would say no major surprises, just executing the strategy that we've laid out, namely, that we really have a core focus since the realignment at the end of last year around shifting our revenue to Smart Product Solutions and recurring revenue and away from custom engineering projects. And this is really a transition that's supported by profit and cash flows to come from the very large and very interesting Ivory Coast project. So as we look at revenue, in the first half of the year, we see that this continued strong adoption of the MABR product, now 34 plants sold in the first half of June 30, 2021, bringing the total worldwide to 281 plants in 11 countries. China revenues in the first half of '21 were up 45% on the prior period, and we see overall also increase in Smart Product Solutions revenues in the first half to 12% higher than last year. And I'd say also, I'm sure you will notice that overall for the company that our revenues as a total were lower in the first half of '21 than 2020. And the reason for this is because we recognized in Q1 of last year a very large amount of revenues at very high margin that came from the Ivory Coast project, but that work has actually been done over many prior quarters. And in the first half of 2021, the Ivory Coast project was executing on budget but recognizing revenue on a percentage of cost incurred. In other words, the basis of recognition is different. We're not recognizing things we did in prior quarters. It's only what we've done in the first half of the year. Because the project was just starting in the first half, those revenues are relatively modest. We would anticipate those would be considerably higher in the second half of the year and for the remainder of the project life until its completion in approximately the first quarter of calendar 2023. Also, when we look at margins, it's very important to recognize that we talk about the focus on smart products and recurring revenue. Every dollar that we bring in from smart products and recurring revenue is worth approximately twice as much as every dollar that we bring in from custom engineering projects because of the fact that the margin is so much higher, approximately double. So this is very, very important as we anticipate in '23 the Ivory Coast project going away and we're not going to be chasing custom engineered projects as our business focus is about smart products and recurring revenue, that really rebuilding the profitability base [ as a smaller mountain to climb ], which we believe we're making good progress on. In other words, we don't have to get to the same revenue in order to deliver the same or greater profitability. We see strong backlog, $175 million of contracted backlog of which smart products is $18.7 million. So this continues to see strong smart products momentum. And we're seeing also, I think, significant progress in terms of cost down. You've heard this now from us for over the last year or more. We continue to improve operating efficiency. We're seeing that in the savings in SG&A down 9% for the first half of this year versus last year. And very importantly, too, we're articulating for the first time in this report that our Italy business is an asset that is being held for sale along with our Peru project. Peru, we've talked to you before about something we were thinking about does this meet our return objectives. We decided that it was not going to. In the case of Italy, these are smart people and doing interesting things but really not in the core direction of where Fluence is going. These are generally not smart products and recurring revenue around our flagship MABR product and also our NIROBOX desalination product. Consequently, we've decided that it's time for us to make that an asset held for sale. We anticipate that we'd find a good investment partner or buyer elsewhere, and that will improve the operating efficiency as well as, of course, our focus on strategic objectives. And then let's talk finally about cash flow. I think if you look at our 4C and 4D and the various other filings that we've stated cash -- operating cash flow during each quarter, during the year, you will see that there was a sad story, but in the prior year, a fairly steady downward trajectory. In other words, quarter-after-quarter, it's accumulated operating cash flow losses. I believe that story has changed. I'm not predicting the future, but I am saying that if you look back 12 months from June 30, 2021, you'll see that we're operating cash flow positive by $19.6 million, and we've seen the cash balance increase from June 30 of last year to this year. So I'd suggest that this very likely means we are turning the corner on cash flow. This does not mean we're going to be operating cash flow positive every quarter because we still have this very lumpy Ivory Coast project where sometimes we get big payments and other quarters, we have big payments going out. But overall, that project is profitable and cash flow positive and is a major driver for our transition to Smart Products Solutions. So for all these reasons, we believe -- we feel a great strength, a sense of confidence in the business. We're seeing tremendous interest in customers, very strong pipeline, anticipate a good second half. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to Francesco for some more detail on the financials.
Francesco Fragasso
executiveThank you, Richard. Our total unreviewed revenue from continued operation for the first half of 2021 is $39.6 million. Revenue from Smart Products Solutions was $10.4 million, up about 12% over the first half of 2020. Recurring revenue was $3.5 million, and Custom Engineered Solutions was $25.7 million, including $21.6 million from the Ivory Coast project. Our partners in China are continuing to help us grow business in the region and will continue to provide support for meeting our guidance. Revenue in China in the first half of 2021 increased 45% compared to the same period in 2020. Fluence management has continued to focus on efficiency and was able to reduce operating expenses by 9%. During the first half of 2021, management decided to exit businesses that are no longer in line with the long-term company strategy. Accordingly, operations in Italy and BOOT project in Peru are now classified as assets held for sale and are being reported as discontinued operations. We anticipate this will help to further improve operating efficiency going forward. Fluence has a strong cash position with cash and cash equivalents of $23.7 million at the end of June 2021. In addition, the company holds $35 million in short-term and long-term liquid investments that provide adequate operating resource. Operating cash flow in the 12 months prior to June 30 was approximately [indiscernible] the first half [indiscernible] [ the collection of $20 million ] as the third milestone under the Ivory Coast project as we communicated to the market on June 4. Fluence has a contract backlog of $175 million as of the end of June, of which $134 million related to Ivory Coast project and $18.7 million related to SPS. We anticipate that the booked revenue and the backlog of orders will allow us to achieve our guidance and deliver Smart Products Solutions revenue in 2021 of $35 million to $50 million and to achieve another year of positive underlying EBITDA. While audit procedures have been completed due to COVID-related circumstances beyond our control, certain internal procedures remain to be completed by our external auditor before the reviewed financials can be released by the company. The company utilize the relief offered by ASIC and extend the deadline for lodgment of auditors reviewed half-year accounts. Expect the auditor to release the reviewed financial in the next 2 weeks if no material change to the 4D and the half year financials that are being released today. I will now hand back the call to Richard. Richard?
Richard Irving
executiveSorry, I was on mute. Operator, would you mind, please, reminding everybody how to submit questions online before we go to Q&A.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions]
Richard Irving
executiveThank you, operator. So yes, I see a question here and I'd love to actually pick it up. Francesco, I think, just commented on this, so I want to be very clear. The fact that our auditors have delayed completion of the review of our accounts has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality of our accounts and everything to do, unfortunately, with an illness on their side of the fence. And I think I shouldn't say any more about that due to privacy concerns, but this is entirely due to that reason. There's nothing in issue in the accounts. And I think you can expect no changes, certainly no material changes of any kind in regards to the accounts, so I think you can assume that the unreviewed accounts we filed today will be the same as the ones that will be confirmed shortly. Okay, I also see another question, in regards to overall revenue in -- is less in the first and second quarter for '21 versus the prior year. Is this due to assets held for sale? No. It's due to Ivory Coast. As I mentioned earlier, we got a significant amount of revenue in from Ivory Coast. I think, Francesco -- so you have the numbers at your fingertips for what we incurred in the first half of last year versus what we incurred in the first half of this year. And this has to do with the way revenue is being recognized from an accounting viewpoint. In other words, last year, 2020, we were recognizing accumulated engineering work in Q1 that was accumulated over many prior quarters, whereas in the first half of this year, we're recognizing Ivory Coast revenues on the basis of costs incurred, not on a basis of work we may have done in the past.
Francesco Fragasso
executiveYes, Richard. If I may add to what you just said that the contract with Ivory Coast from an accounting point of view is treated as 2 different obligation. One was the engineering package. The other one is the construction work. In Q1 2020, and you will remember, we delivered the first obligation, the engineering package. It was about $34 million of revenue. And construction, on the other hand, started in January 2021. And in the first half, we are still reflecting the start-up of that construction, which is expected to achieve a more sustainable level of cost and related revenue starting already in Q2. [indiscernible] question also...
Richard Irving
executive[ I see a question here also about ] -- yes. Go ahead, Francesco.
Francesco Fragasso
executiveOn the backlog and revenue in relation to Smart Products Solutions, the question is if the level of backlog compared to the revenue is low. This is an important point. Part of the benefit of transitioning the organization to a standard products-based business, as opposed to project-based which is the Ivory Coast project, for example, is that also the book-to-bill cycle becomes significantly shorter. Just as a reference, I want to mention, last year, the order we received in Cambodia that was received was about $7 million, received in March. We completely delivered before the end of the year. So on smart products, order don't stay in our backlog for years, but we -- in average we are able to deliver MABR or desalination solution within 5 to 9 months from the order. This justifies a lower level of backlog compared to the expected revenue.
Richard Irving
executiveGreat. And I see a question here about the Cambodia project. And I can tell you, as I believe we announced during the past quarters, past several months, anyway, that the Cambodia -- first Cambodia plant treating water for 60,000 people was successfully commissioned by the end of May, on target; and that the second one, which is treating wastewater for about another 40,000 people, is anticipated to be commissioned in the next few weeks. And we believe that these 2 projects and the success of them, which has been noticed up to the highest levels of government, will be very helpful in securing additional projects in a country where our MABR is the first biological wastewater treatment solution of any kind to be implemented. So we are very honored to be in that position. And there is a lot of work to be done at many size ranges which we cover fully with our MABR. I also see a question here about margin on Ivory Coast and the question about what are the approximate margins. We've always talked about Custom Engineered Solutions being in the mid-teens in gross margins. And I believe that is an accurate statement in regards to Ivory Coast. That is the range where that project is anticipated to -- has been and to remain. So you can see why, if we're doing business with smart products and recurring revenue [ where we can ] consider to be more than mid-teens -- that's why those revenues of smart products and recurring revenue were at least double of what we get from a custom project, but because the Ivory Coast project is so big, it's a great transition vehicle, if you like, as well as a very valuable international reference to bridge our way to the point where our revenues are dominated by smart products and recurring revenues.
Francesco Fragasso
executiveAnd Richard, there are a few question on the Italy business as asset held for sale. So there are actually a specific question. How much is the contribution of that business to the profit and loss for the first half? And that is disclosed in the financials. It's about at breakeven at this stage. With reference of reconciling the total revenue for the first 6 months with what we reported before in conjunction with the 4C, the difference is due to the fact that Peru and Italy in particular are not included in our P&L for the first 6 months. And also the first 6 months of 2020 are adjusted accordingly. As a reminder, since there was a question of what we mean for underlying EBITDA, that is the EBITDA that not only exclude, of course, [ interest, depreciation ], et cetera but also any other nonrecurring extraordinary expense in the period.
Richard Irving
executiveYes. There's also a question about what's the level of confidence in Fluence's MABR in Asia, China and Southeast Asia. And I believe at this point that they -- the confidence is very strong. China, we sold almost 250 plants based on MABR in many, many different environments; environments meaning very cold climates, very hot climates, small [ flows ] from a cluster of homes to sort of town-size or small city-size plants and even at different elevations where [ ration ] can be a real challenge. I don't believe there's any lack of confidence in the solutions, as we've seen some partners ordering really quite large volumes of product from us, but I think the one thing that we continue to deal with, I think, particularly in Asia, generally is the quarantine regime caused by COVID. This is not delaying the day-to-day business. Our production line is working fine. Our sales guys are booking orders, but closing major deals, getting major milestones accomplished tend to be delayed when you have quarantines each way. If a senior salesperson has to spend 2 weeks in quarantine going one way, have some meetings and then spend another 2 weeks coming back the other way, this is a significant commitment of resources. And it's not just on our side. I think there's also a very strong concern in many of the geographies in which we operate in Asia that they don't want to see COVID getting out of control and harming the country. So it's not losing us business, but it is delaying it in certain cases. Nevertheless, as I say, we continue to report growth even in this environment, which we think is encouraging. I guess there's also some questions about how China and sales in Vietnam and so on are going. And again I -- there's a lot of stuff in the pipeline. We closed, as I say, 34 plants in the first half of MABR globally, of which 30 were in China. So we hear a lot of concern, I think, quite recently about tensions between different countries potentially impacting our China business. Because we're in China, where our China team selling Israeli technology -- that has not been an issue for us, so far. There seems to be a very strong embracing of the solution which offers the most CapEx efficient, the most OpEx efficient, the lowest energy, the lowest chemicals to achieve that Class 1A or Class 4 wastewater treatment standards that is so much being pursued by China; and also being enforced in other geographies, similarly in the Philippines, very strict wastewater treatment standards and noncompliant plants facing daily fines, all of which I think is giving us a -- very good business prospects there for a solution that we know is compelling [ and proven ] at this point.
Francesco Fragasso
executiveSo Richard, I want to address several question on the process of selling the Italian business and the Peru BOOT. And the accounting for those assets held for sale require a long list of specific items to be validated by the auditor. Those include that there is an active program to look at a buyer. The sale is probable within 12 months, that there is an active interest and is extremely unlikely that there is a change in plan in disposing those assets. And so far, we receive significant interests for those assets. And therefore, all those requirements are satisfied and we are allowed to report this as asset held for sale. A clarification on if Peru is a desalination: Yes, Peru is only a desalination plant.
Richard Irving
executiveYes. I mean again this is let me just reemphasize. This is about focus. We have a good team in Italy. They're very dedicated. They've done a lot of projects in the anaerobic digestion area, which is focused on industrial segments like dairy and slaughterhouses and so on. This is very, very, very different from the markets we're targeting with MABR and NIROBOX, namely wastewater treatment solutions distributed, decentralized; and also desalination systems. And we don't -- we just can't do everything, and we really feel that one of the mistakes of the past has been trying to do too many things, yes. So we really think that we can realize some meaningful value from setting the Israel -- the Italy business free and as an asset that somebody else could invest in but also that it would be, I think, very good for that team to realize its true potential which within the focus of Fluence is something that can't happen. So I think it's a win-win on both sides. And again I think this kind of betting on your very, very strongest winners is the way to go even if some of the other things you're doing are interesting. We just can't be everywhere at the same time. There's also a question here, Francesco, about underlying EBITDA. And I think you did break up. I heard the line seemed to get a bit muffled when you were talking about underlying EBITDA, so would you [ care to ] just repeat what you said there?
Francesco Fragasso
executiveYes. What we define as underlying EBITDA is the traditional EBITDA but excluding also nonrecurring nonoperating expenses, for instance, restructuring charges, release of accruals, those type of nonrecurring nonoperating expenses that are classified in our P&L in SG&A. When we calculate the EBITDA, we -- and to remove them in order to have a comparable period-over-period metrics. And -- but we also disclose the reconciliation with the traditional EBITDA calculation.
Richard Irving
executiveThere's also a question about further partnerships in China. And all I would say on that is there's an awful lot of activity going on there at the tactical day-to-day selling a system here, a system there or maybe several systems but below our threshold for a strategic or a size where it's a large-enough announcement; and also on a more strategic level in terms of the [ daily, the ] discussion, but as I've said many times before, predicting when some of these bigger announcements come through is always difficult. But we are seeing no lack of interest in what we have and engagement from customers there and not just in China. I think it's very important to say that there's a lot going on in Asia generally, not just Southeast Asia, interestingly, but I don't want to get into more detail on that just yet; and also what we're seeing in North America around water as a service, including in the Caribbean; and then the Middle East. So in all the geographies that we've talked about being active, there is a great deal of activity that is underway and it's not just us pushing hard. There seems to be a very strong interest in our solutions, particularly around MABR and particularly around in those regions that allow us wastewater [ reefs ]. Why pay for drinking water if you can recycle wastewater and use it for irrigation? Which is very, very sensible and wise in a resource-stressed world challenged by sustainability of -- not just for irrigation but also for -- irrigation for crops but also for things like landscape irrigation and resorts and home complexes. So I think there's time for 1 or 2 more questions. Let's see. We're seeing -- [ and I see ] another question here about are we seeing continual delays of business as usual. Well, we are definitely not in business-as-usual conditions. As I mentioned earlier about quarantines in Asia in particular, that's a major challenge. We see what we're dealing with in the U.S., for example, in terms of the number of COVID cases; and many, many other countries, the U.K., Europe. The team is dealing with this from an internal perspective very successfully, but also we are recognizing we need to be more and more innovative to try to replace what would normally have been face-to-face meetings and yet still get business done. I think the results we've published indicate business is happening. As I've said many times, COVID continues to be a headwind, but it's a headwind we're trying to plan our way around, as opposed to one that we're just going to give into and say, well, things aren't going so well because I don't think it's anywhere near that conclusion at this point. Things are actually doing pretty well and particularly the fact that we can see such incredibly strong market acceptance for our MABR technology. This is our flagship. It's really working, whether we talk China, Cambodia, the Philippines, North America, other parts of the world. And we are very, very excited about the reception we've been seeing in so many diverse regions; climates; flow rates; and even, as I say, elevations, where we have tremendous advantages. So I think, with that, I thank you all very much indeed for joining. We'd be very happy to schedule calls with any of you if you would like to have a follow-up. And we appreciate your joining with us here and appreciate your continued support for the company. Thank you very much.
Operator
operatorThat does conclude the conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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