FMC Corporation (FMC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 10, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Laurence Alexander
analystIt's my pleasure now, as part of our afternoon series, to introduce FMC. Joining me is their CFO, Andrew Sandifer. And without any further ado, if you just want to quickly introduce FMC to the audience, and then we'll jump to the discussion.
Andrew Sandifer
executiveGlad to. Thanks, everybody, for joining this afternoon. As Laurence said, I'm Andrew Sandifer. I'm the CFO of FMC Corporation. We're an agricultural sciences company based in Philadelphia, with about 75% of our revenue outside of the U.S., guiding to about $5.6 billion in revenue this year, $1.4 billion in EBITDA. We are 1 of the 5 innovation-led crop chemistry businesses in the world and the only one that is exclusively focused on crop protection, whereas all of our peer companies also have seed businesses. We think that gives us a competitive as well as a return advantage over our peers, something we can go down on to if there's interest. But certainly, we are a fast-growing highest margin in the industry-focused crop protection player.
Laurence Alexander
analystAnd great. So let's start with that sort of R&D focus and the notion of the ag transition. Over the last, call it, 7 years, there's been more and more themes advanced as a potential threat for the conventional crop chemical market, precision ag, biologicals, sustainability, less toxic chemistries. Can you talk about what this means for conventional crop chemicals over the next 10, 15 years?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveSure. Look, I think conventional crop chemistry continues to be a major, if not, the most significant tool for yield management, yield enhancement for farmers for the foreseeable future. There's certainly a lot of great new technologies in the biological space. I mean we just recently made an acquisition in the pheromone space, we can talk a little bit about. But when you look at just the magnitude of the industry, crop chemistry is about a $65 billion industry, and growing in the low single digits over a very long period of time. Biologicals and other plant health solutions are a $10 billion, $15 billion business, growing much more rapidly in the high single digits, but still a much more fragmented and much smaller part of the market. The truth is we need all of these tools to be able to meet the needs of a growing population in a hungry world. And I think the recent events geopolitically in the world that have highlighted how precarious food supply really is in the world, only highlight the need that we have a fast-growing population, particularly in developing economies, with an increasing appetite for calories and for higher quality of calories. We continue to see significant demand for all of the uses of agriculture products, be that food, fuel, fiber, feed. None of those are going away. All the demographics are pushing for even more production. So I think it's good news that we have a lot of different techniques that are being developed to help continue to improve yields and provide greater output from relatively finite acreage base that we have to produce from. So that said, our -- certainly, our core and our historical strength is in synthetic crop chemistry, which we still think is an anchor of what the world needs to be able to have the inputs and tools to deliver yield. But we also see some very, very interesting opportunities, particularly in biologicals and the better use of data and managing agriculture to keep driving higher yield from that same acreage.
Laurence Alexander
analystSo there's quite a bit to unpack here. Maybe let's start with the conventional crop chemistry. Can you talk a little bit about what FMC has done to sort of affect sort of the toxicology concerns, the concerns about endocrine disruptors? And from an investment perspective, kind of the perception that there is sort of a lingering kind of litigation risk over the industry? How much of that is a vintage problem that should drop out over time? Or have you had to change your R&D process to detect problems early and weed them out?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveYes. Look, I think that for FMC, sustainability has been a key aspect of our innovation for many, many years. 100% of our R&D is spent on products and development and maintenance of products that are more sustainable. A lot of the trends you're talking about, in terms of increased concerns around product safety and whether it's adverse impacts on unattended species, whether it's endocrine disruption, just raise the bar on your ability to identify, test, and develop improve efficacy of molecules. So when we look at all of the various investments we're making and developing new active ingredients, certainly, that factors in how we evaluate molecules and how we search out for new molecules. And also it fits on how we defend the portfolio that we have today, which includes specifically the diamides, Rynaxypyr, and Cyazypyr, which have a very, very favorable sustainability profile when compared to other insecticides. And in fact, they've been growing at multiples of the overall insecticide market because of that improved -- better -- not only better performance, but overall, better safety and sustainability profile. So look whether or not the industry is a target, there's certainly -- when you have large agricultural chemicals and disputes and what their impacts are in the U.S. legal system, in particular, there's obviously been a couple of high-profile lawsuits. That's not changed our belief that crop chemistry is an essential tool for feeding the world and that there are plenty of good ways that you can use safely and develop safe products that continue to contribute to that. So I think, again, synthetic chemistry is here for the long term. It will be complemented by and accelerated by other technologies. We need all of those tools to be able to deliver what the world needs.
Laurence Alexander
analystAnd you alluded earlier to the pheromone acquisition in the biologicals. Do you think FMC has sufficient scale here?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveI think we have growing scale. Sufficient scale is a good question, right? The biological space, plant health, broadly speaking, which for us includes biological crop nutrition, think of it vitamins for plants and seed treatment. Those are all areas which are very fragmented and lots of opportunity to continue growing. We've got about a $250 million plant health platform and revenues this year, growing 20% per year. About $100 million of that is actual biological products that are growing about double that rate. So it's becoming more significant within the confines of a $5.6 billion portfolio. It's still a relatively small part of the portfolio, but it is becoming more material. The acquisition of BioPhero, which we closed on July 19, adds pheromones into the suite of technologies we have to use for insect control. And it's an interesting play because pheromones and crop pest control applications have been around for years. They just have new produce through synthetic chemistry processes. They're very expensive. It's about a $500 million market. It covers about 1 million hectares a year. And it's -- the limitation has been the cost. And what BioPhero, what attracted us to them, we made an initial investment in the company a little over 2 years ago as a venture investment, with some technology they had developed to genetically modify yeast that allow us to use yeast to produce pheromones. Now the pheromones are chemicals that the bugs themselves naturally produce to attract each other. And we use them basically as a disrupting mechanism. You go out and spray them in places to draw off the males away from the females, so they don't reproduce. So where most of our insecticides are actually targeted at killing the bugs, while they're actually eating the crop and doing damage, pheromones are a complement to that by reducing the number of insects in the subsequent generations. So we see a lot of synergy and a lot of opportunity to help manage not only Rynaxypyr, but our other insecticide products to manage the life cycle to extend their lives and to limit development of resistance by using pheromones as a part of an integrated pest management program. But again, the big opportunity here with BioPhero is just a massive expansion of the addressable market. Now when you use yeast in a fermentation process as opposed to a very complex chemical synthetic process, it's orders of magnitude, lower unit cost. So while we're still going through scale-up, and we don't expect that commercial revenue until 2024, we can see a path where we very rapidly penetrate markets that have historically been inaccessible to pheromones. So think corn and soybeans and large row crops and places where it will pull in insecticides as well that we don't currently penetrate as fully. Because, again, it's a part of an overall system for managing pest. We'll give a more balanced and more sustainable approach. So BioPhero is something we're super, super excited about. Like I said, we've been involved with the company for a little over than 2 years. Irina Borodina, the technologist and founder of the company is staying on with us as the Chief Technology Officer for that business. Business is located in Denmark right down the street from our global headquarters for our plant health platform and our innovation center that leads all of our plant health activity. So that's a super exciting acquisition for us.
Laurence Alexander
analystAnd you had some pretty punchy 2030 sales targets when you announce, which is unusual for you to set those out. How does the degree of confidence on those compared with when you put out a peak sales number for one of your own AIs?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveSo when we look at our own internal synthetic active ingredients that we develop -- by the time in the development pipeline, and we're starting to do the work to get them registered and then start commercially launching them, we have pretty high confidence that the chemistry works. What we're doing then is proving out all of the safety and efficacy in field trials and going through what is a long and arduous process up to 7 years in some countries to get them registered on the market. The analogy with BioPhero, it is clear that pheromones work. They've been on the markets for decades. They're just too expensive. So it's all about the scale up and ramping up production, and we have high confidence there, but we haven't done it yet. So we're in the process of ramping that up. And again, we'll start some commercial sales in 2024. But any uncertainty about the efficacy of the chemical is none. There is none there. So I'd say from a balance of risks, we feel pretty -- I put it on a pretty even footing with our in-house R&D pipeline. With the individual elements, there might be a little more manufacturing scale-up risk, but a little less efficacy risk, probably a little less registrability risk given that these are, again, naturally occurring chemicals that have been used in this kind of application for a long, long time.
Laurence Alexander
analystAnd can we touch on another couple of secular things? So digitalization and digital ag vertical farming culture proteins. If you put those 3 together, they're all trying in different ways to break the link between population growth, acreage growth, chemical demand, volume of chemical demand, and aggregate grain demand. How do you see how FMC needs to reposition its business model or its portfolio to just allow for what those threats look like 7, 10 years down the road?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveYes. So look, fundamentally, when we think about ourselves, we think of ourselves as an agricultural sciences company. We do not think of ourselves as a chemical company. When we think about purpose, mission values kinds of things, our purpose in the world is to enhance agriculture through sustainable production of crops. However, that crop, whether that's a food, fuel, fiber, or feed application; however that crop has gone, whether that's vertical, horizontal, indoor, outdoor, or even -- and the far reaches cultured versus raising of livestock, our story is we want to be a part of delivering yield and deliver -- helping growers produce more with a limited set of inputs. Because no matter what technique you're using, you're dealing with finite resources to try to meet a growing demand. So specifically in Precision Ag, we've made a lot of investment in our Arc Farm Intelligence tool, which allows farmers to monitor the insect pressure in their fields and using some patented algorithms, predict the increases in pest pressure, so you can be more specific in the time you apply insecticides to get a better bang for the buck, higher value use. That, I think, is a good example of how we see precision agriculture and the use of data helping enhance our business. Look, we don't sell pounds. We don't sell gallons, we sell yield. We will reformulate products on a regular basis, oftentimes in ways that reduce drastically the volume of product that are applied to get the same kind of benefit. It doesn't change the value we've been able to capture from that. So as opposed to somebody who takes a mindset of a chemical company pushing gallons or pounds or tons, our KPIs are all steered around value. They're all steered around generating yield and collecting a portion of that value through economic model. Vertical farming. Very interesting in terms of being able to do things in a different kind of footprint. Also often some interesting opportunities in that you have a contained controlled environment that if you have a pest outbreak, you can very rapidly have catastrophic failure, right? So not a big market for us right now, but something we're watching very, very closely. And certainly, you can imagine through our ventures arm, looking at some of the early-stage technology on how you might partner with or piggyback on some people who are developing some of the technologies for managing those kind of operations. So I'd say just more to come, but an area we're very aware of. Cultured [indiscernible] less directly applicable to us at the moment. Certainly, you can see if it were to scale substantially, would that have any impact on feed uses of grains in particular of oilseeds? But at the same time, we think about fuel uses and the increasing demand on soybeans in particular, for biodiesel. I'm not overly concerned even at a very accelerated, very optimistic penetration rate of cultured [indiscernible] than in any of the next 2, 3, 4 decades, that has a material impact on agricultural demand.
Laurence Alexander
analystAnd are you far enough along with the digital ag experiments to see whether your value capture relative to yield gain is improving or stable?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveYes. Look, I'd say everybody, I think, is still experimenting with different business models around precision ag and the use of data in agriculture. We have -- Arc farm intelligence, we use as a tool for building engagement with farmers. We don't charge for that service. But we have hard data that shows that growers that we work with and utilize Arc farm intelligence buy substantially more product from us. So we do see a direct return on investment from that activity, although it itself is not directly a revenue-generating activity. So as we look at other alternatives and how we build out other functionality into Arc and look at other opportunities in space, we're continuing to think about what kind of models may be there. But at present, it really is -- it's much more about driving engagement with growers and bring -- building pull-through of products as it is as opposed to actually being an independent revenue source.
Laurence Alexander
analystAnd so when you look at the R&D pipeline, I think you have 19 APIs in the pipeline driving about what was it, $1 billion to $2 billion of revenue by 2030? There's 11 of the 19 that were still in the very early stage. Can you talk a little bit about where you are or the -- how much of the path to 2030 will be known by, say, 2024, '25? And how much of it is really contingent on the '28, '29 launch years?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveYes. So we have -- actually, we have about 30 compounds in our overall active ingredient pipeline. There are 19 in what we describe as our discovery element, which is earlier stage where we're just proving efficacy and identifying among a very similar -- collection of similar molecules, which one is the most attractive to make the big investment and what we -- in the later stage, which we call the development pipeline. So you're right. There's about 19 compounds in that discovery pipeline, about 11 of them were in Stage A when we last gave a comprehensive R&D pipeline review in November of 2020. But we also -- we have 11 active ingredients in that later-stage development pipeline. And that's what will really translate to that $2 billion in revenue around 2030 and $3 billion in peak revenue. The first 2 of those molecules to be introduced or Isoflex and Fluindapyr, which we clicked out and talk a little bit more on if you'd like, a serial herbicide and a fungicide. But I think what we've got now is another series of products including the next product to be introduced as a herbicide for use in grasses and particularly on rice, called tetflupyrolimet that we introduced in mid-decade and then another series of introductions as we get into the latter part of the decade. So certainly, in '23, '24, '25, a smaller impact as we get into the second half of the decade, you get much more substantial acceleration because all of this is gated by getting those products registered country by country by country because every crop application in a new country is a different registration. And unfortunately, in even the fastest countries, that's a good several years' endeavor to get a product registered. So while we've committed to the exact time, we'll give an update at some point in the next couple of quarters on the overall pipeline a little more comprehensively. But what I can tell you today is simply we're tracking well towards that $2 billion in sales at 2030. And certainly, we'll continue to see a very positive response to the products that we've introduced to date. And my final plug is, simply active ingredients are a big part of the growth story. But one of FMC's historic strengths has been formulation, and that's taking existing active ingredients and finding different ways to combine them with other ingredients or to deliver them in different ways. It's also been a tremendous driver of value and is another big growth path for us. It is real innovation, in terms of making a more effective product for a farmer and in many cases, doing things that improve the sustainability profile of that product as well.
Laurence Alexander
analystAnd you mentioned the Fluindapyr and Isoflex launches. Do you have all of the required regional approvals for those? Or are you still pending?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveWe're still working through it. So there's a long sequence of countries. We would expect the next real big countries to come on for either of those to be in 2024. We'll have some revenue at some additional countries in 2023 but starting to really gain some momentum in 2024. Pandemic has made regulatory timelines a bit of a mess as well. A number of countries essentially shut down their regulatory processes for a while during the pandemic. So we're trying to catch up where we can and sort of readjust the timelines and expectations there. So no material changes, but it is a country-by-country fight to get them registered and then to launch them, and then to build them. But again, the experience we've had, I'll give the use of Isoflex in an example that we introduced in 2021 in Australia, far exceeded our initial expectations, really has shown some great promise in finishing up its second season, continuing to exceed expectations. So we're really excited about the potential for that product as we take it to other geographies.
Laurence Alexander
analystSo as you think about the earnings bridge for the next, call it, 2, 3 years, the -- can you talk a little bit about the operating leverage that you get from improving the amount of new products as a percentage of the total? And then how should that change given kind of the ramp that we're going to see in biofuels and renewable diesel capacity and so forth? Are you going to see a shift in the demand side? And is -- are the crops that are going to be incentivized there, does that work to your benefit? Or is that going to be a drag?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveSure. Look, I think a lot of things to unpack in your question there, but I would say this. One of the drivers of faster bottom line growth and top line growth for FMC up through the period prior to the massive cost inflation of the pandemic was really product mix enhancement. So at the end of 2018, when we launched our current strategic plan, the company was operating at about a 25.9% company EBITDA margin. On a trailing 12-month basis, we peaked on June 30, 2020, at a 27.3% margin, in a period that was not without inflation or FX headwinds. And that margin expansion came from 2 pieces. One, significant mix improvement as we're both introducing new products, but also much faster growth of higher-value products like the diamides, but also other new formulations we were introducing. So we had a very strong mix enhancement. Then we also had some very significant SG&A leverage. We made a multiyear $250 million investment into bringing the company on to a single instance of SAP S/4HANA that allowed us to take a lot of the costs out of the back-office and do a lot of streamlining of manual work. We only scratched the surface on what that investment can continue to provide for us. Now in the past 6 quarters, all of those benefits have been over showered and washed away by cost inflation and the dilutive effects on margin of price recovery of cost inflation. So as we hopefully get into a period where costs level off flattened, then they will start to emerge again and start bringing -- highlighting the margin expansion opportunity that we have. But I want to make sure we put that in context, Laurence, because look, we've guided a 25% EBITDA margin for this year as a company. That is still the highest EBITDA margin of any crop protection platform in the world. And that's before correcting for the fact that many of our competitors report under IFRS where you capitalize R&D, or in all cases, that their crop protection chemistry businesses are segments and not saddled with all the corporate overhead. So it's not a like-for-like comparison, and we still exceed their EBITDA margin. If you go further down and do a very basic return on assets, EBITDA over net assets, we are in a multiple of what our peers generate. So there is an upper bound. While we want to make sure we drive very hard on margin expansion, trust me for, Mark and I, that as a prime objective in 2023. There will be an upper bound where we go, hey, the returns are so high in this business than an incremental growth dollar versus an incremental point or a basis point of EBITDA may not be of the same value. So I think that kind of 27-ish percent range that we were in before pandemic cost wave really was unleashed. It was a very reasonable expectation of where this business could land. But I think I just would caution people that once you start getting on a full year trailing 12-month kind of EBITDA margin in the upper 20s, at the kind of return on capital we have, you may be constraining value creation. So we want to be a little thoughtful about that.
Laurence Alexander
analystWell, then I guess we'll bring back a question from about 12 or 15 years ago, which is given the long R&D cycles in this industry, what can FMC do to accelerate top line growth if it is going to be holding margins roughly flat?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveYes. Certainly, bringing more innovative products helps, and that's looking over many time frames, right? So it is having a balance of investments that are more long term in nature like developing new active ingredients, acquiring new technologies that complement what we do today, whether that's biologicals or looking at other ways we can use data or alternate business models. So some of the work that we're investing in an early seed stage, there are FMC ventures efforts as well as through outright acquisition. And then importantly, investing in -- Mark uses the term market access, which is essentially getting broader exposure to growers. And that may be through expanding sales force, getting more people out there working in partnership with distributors and retailers to help growers understand the products and better -- and increase their penetration. And while we've made huge progress in that dimension in the past 5 years, we are, by no way, fully penetrated. And by crop and by geography, there's a tremendous amount of growth still out there for us. So I think you will continue to see us invest across all of those. And I say invest loosely because much of it flows to the P&L, but it isn't -- it's a direct allocation of value that could be -- if we didn't do that, we would be investing in some other way or return to shareholders. So I think that balance of longer-term investments in new molecules, continue to invest in formulation, invest in new technologies, and continuing to build out market access, that balance will lead us to continue to grow at a premium, probably multiples of the overall market.
Laurence Alexander
analystSo do you think that R&D to sales needs to be a touch higher in the 2025 to 2030 time frame? And then the second part is you have a well-established free cash flow conversion target, which has a history. And that history came because of the prior kind of market access, glyphosate bundled sale strategy. So as you think about pivoting to a more market access top line growth, how should we think about how much you're willing to sacrifice on free cash flow to sales out there?
Andrew Sandifer
executiveAll right. So let's -- we'll parse a couple of pieces there. From an R&D perspective, I would expect R&D to continue growing at or above the level of sales. It has fallen -- the growth has fallen a little below that in the past 2 years, just because of the massive inflation we had flown through the top line. So we're in the 5.5% to 6% range this year for R&D, where historically it would have been 6% to 7%. I don't expect it to be a significant headwinds to earnings growth just because the top line is growing so fast. So we can meaningfully grow our R&D expense and still not have it grow that substantially. When you start thinking about the dollar increment, not just the percentage increment, it's a big step up year-to-year in R&D spending even growing at the rate of sales. So don't see that as an obstacle. From a free cash perspective, we made tremendous progress in the last 5 years in driving free cash flow, both generation and improvement in conversion. And Laurence has heard this a million times, but I'm going to say it again, I want to be very clear, we use a very strict definition of free cash flow. It's the cash flow with which we -- after everything else except for acquisitions, dividends, and buybacks. So the free cash flow we generate, those are the 3 things that we can use it -- that we would use it for, right? So with that context, free cash flow in 2018 was less than $300 million and was 18% conversion from net income. Now artificially distorted because we had just bought the DuPont assets. We did not buy a complete business. We bought a collection of assets. We had minimal inventory and no receivables and virtually no payables. So we had to build -- over '18 and '19, we had to build the working capital for the acquired DuPont assets. By 2020, we were up to 67% in conversion. In 2021, we had 80% conversion. Now free cash flow, given the way we define it, is after -- it includes the impact of any restructuring, any onetime charges, any legacy expenses -- and oh, by the way, we're a 150-year-old company that used to be diversified into a lot of other businesses. So we do have legacy liabilities. 80% is on the high end of what we can sustainably deliver as conversion. We think the right range on a steady-state basis is in 70% to 80% conversion. It's limited by 2 things: one, growth in our business is fueled by working capital growth. You're not -- we are working on ways to grow more efficiently, but you're not going to grow sales without growing working capital, and that's the biggest use of capital in our business. And two, we have legacy liabilities, asbestos, and other environmental liabilities. The liability aren't fundamentally growing, but they're not going away. So they will dilute over time as we continue to grow in their drag on conversion as we continue to grow the earnings stream. But that $75 million to $100 million a year we spend on legacy liabilities isn't going away. So we think that 70% to 80% is a good place to be. On a rolling 3-year basis, the [ midpoint ] of our guidance this year would be at about 71%. It's on the lower end of that range but in the right range. So that's -- I would expect to see that continue to creep up over the next couple of years. And we'll continue to frame it both this in a single year, but also our rolling perspective, just because there can be lumpiness, particularly with environmental type issues, you can get these lumpy spending patterns to where you can get distortions in year-end numbers. So that free cash flow generation capability, we're going to continue to drive, keep it in that 70% to 80% range. And again, I want to be very clear, we've done huge things over the past 5 years in changing of management processes, incentives. We now have short-term and long-term incentives that are tied to cash flow generation, that reinforce in our management processes and our culture, the importance of cash generation, cash conversion, alongside delivering revenue growth and earnings.
Laurence Alexander
analystOkay. Great. Well, that's all the time we have. Thank you very much for the chat today.
Andrew Sandifer
executiveAlways good talking to you. Thanks.
Laurence Alexander
analystThank you.
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