FrontView REIT, Inc. (FVR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 15, 2025

New York Stock Exchange US Real Estate Retail REITs earnings 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the FrontView REIT, Inc. Q1 2025 earnings call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Randy Starr. Randy, please go ahead.

Randall Starr

executive
#2

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2025 earnings call. I'm joined today by Stephen Preston, Chairman and Co-CEO. Before I turn it over to Steve, please note that we will be making certain statements that may be considered forward-looking statements under federal securities law. The company's actual results discussed in these forward-looking statements, and we may not release revisions to these forward-looking statements in the future. Factors and risks that could also cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are disclosed from time to time in greater detail in the company's filings with the SEC and yesterday's press release. Steve?

Stephen Preston

executive
#3

Great. Thank you, Randy. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to FrontView's Q1 2025 Earnings Call. As a reminder, Front is an internally managed net lease REIT that acquires, owns and manages primarily properties with frontage on high-traffic roads that are highly visible to consumers. Since entering the public markets in October of 2024, we have demonstrated our ability to source accretive acquisitions. The first quarter of 2025 was no exception, and we acquired approximately $49.2 million of properties at an average cap rate of 7.9%, exceeding our pricing guidance by about 40 basis points and having a weighted average lease term of approximately 12 years. The acquisitions are diversified across 9 industries, 13 tenants and 13 states, including 8 new tenants and 2 new states. Investment-grade tenants accounted for approximately 29% of the annualized base rent from these acquisitions. Subsequent to the close of the quarter, we have closed on 1 additional property for an additional $3.6 million at an initial cash capitalization rate of 8.1% and a lease term of 7 years. We also have 5 properties under contract for an additional $15.7 million at a weighted average initial cash capitalization rate of 8% and a weighted average lease term of approximately 8 years. The properties under contract are diversified across 5 industries, 6 tenants and 4 states, with the investment-grade tenants representing approximately 20% of the ABR. We have the ability to [ grow ] quickly and accretively with our existing team, provided that we have an appropriate cost of capital. Since February, we have seen our share price decline. Given our current share price and cost of our capital, we have slowed the pace of our acquisition activity in order to prudently allocate capital. At this time, we are now planning to acquire between $125 million and $145 million of acquisitions during 2025, though our pipeline of opportunities remains robust, and we believe we will be able to immediately recommence acquisition activity at our prior pace as our cost of capital improves. We still believe we will acquire above the 7.5% cap rate mark through Q2 and into early Q3. And although our current cost of capital is challenging, we believe we are acquiring frontage assets at historically elevated cap rates and accordingly, believe it is in the best interest of the company to continue to acquire assets at these pricing levels, albeit at a slower pace. As of March 31, 2025, we had approximately $141 million of liquidity, comprised of availability underlying and our existing cash balance. We anticipate having sufficient borrowing capacity under our facility to fund our investment activity for the year, coupled with our ability to reinvest surplus cash flow and generate funds from the sale of properties. We sold 1 operating Freddy's Steak burgers during Q1 at a sales price of $2.05 million at a cap rate of 6.9%. We plan to increase the level of property sales during 2025 to between $20 million and $40 million as we see opportunities to sell off noncore assets and assets with shorter lease term durations, replacing them with longer-term duration leases that fit our acquisition model. In addition, re-tenanting properties can give us the opportunity to create meaningful value for our shareholders. For example, as highlighted in our investor presentation, we proactively re-tenanted a Miller's Ale House with a new Raising Cane's absolute triple-net ground lease at a substantially similar rent. We have recently listed the asset for sale at a 4.7% cap rate compared to our prior basis of approximately [ 7.2% ]. Notwithstanding our current lease in acquisition slowdown, we reaffirm our prior 2025 AFFO per share guidance within $1.20 to $1.26. Our per share results are sensitive to both the timing and amount of real estate investments, property dispositions and capital markets activities that occur throughout the year. Drivers that could increase our AFFO per share include quickly ramping up our acquisition activity to prior levels, income from tenant replacements coming back online earlier than expected and the accretive sale of certain properties throughout the year. Switching gears to the team front. As previously reported, in late April, Tim Dieffenbacher transitioned to the private sector and left FrontView earlier this month. Tim has been nothing but a supporter in front of you, and we wish him all the best in his new role and thank him for his work and efforts throughout our IPO process. The Board has appointed Randall Starr as CFO, and he will continue to serve as co-CEO. Randy is a key company executive with a strong financial background and is a natural fit for this role. Randy has financial analyst and investment banking experience and has been involved in our portfolio since its inception in 2016. Prior to that, Randy attended NYU's real estate finance graduate program, while working for CB Richard Ellis and was more recently overseeing [ Topgolf ] as COO and Chief Development Officer, including liaisoning with their accounting and finance departments. Both Randy and I have been very involved in CFO functions from the founding of our business through the IPO and throughout our duration as a public company. Randy is a natural fit for the position, and I look forward to continuing to work closely with Randy as we operate and grow the business. Although Randy will still stay involved in the acquisitions process, his involvement will move to more of an oversight role. Our dedicated, established acquisitions team, which has been responsible for almost $160 million of acquisitions since becoming a public company, is a well-oiled machine and more than capable, requiring no additional hires to execute on our projected acquisition volume. The Board has also appointed [ Sean Kukamaro ] to become our Chief Accounting Officer. Sean is exceptionally capable and seasoned with big 4 public accounting firm experience, almost 19 years in the space, and has been integrally involved in overseeing FrontView's accountings since 2018. On the portfolio management front, we previously reported 12 properties in which the tenants were either bankrupt or not paying rent. These 12 properties represented approximately 4% of year-end 2024 ABR, and the tenants were predominantly in the casual dining restaurant space. As we will be describing in a few moments, we have demonstrated that the assets we acquire with [ frontage ] are desirable to a variety of different users and then our top-notch experienced management team is capable of re-tenanting, repurposing or otherwise selling off assets to maximize value in a time-efficient manner. Of the 12 assets, we have sold 1 asset. We are under firm contract to sell a second asset. We are under conditional contract to sell 2 additional assets. We have leased 1 asset. We are under active lease negotiations on 2 assets with both under signed LOIs. 2 of our Hooters are currently open and rent paying, though we are also negotiating with other major tenants interested to lease the properties, demonstrating the strong real estate fundamentals of these properties. And our Jo Ann's is currently rent paying, but we are actively marketing to be proactive. We now have parallel lease and sale activity on the 11th asset and expect to be in receipt of LOI shortly. And we are actively marketing the 1 remaining asset and anticipate having activity shortly. We are proud of our team and our team's ability to quickly, efficiently and proactively repurpose these assets. Based upon our efforts to date and subject to customary due diligence and closing conditions, we expect the equivalent return of between approximately 3% and 4% of the approximately 4% year-end ABR previously noted with the respect to these 12 properties. Given the projected timing of the aforementioned sales and rent commencements and new leases, equivalent rental replacement income is expected to come back online in Q4 '25 or in early 2016. At that time, we expect bad debt expenses should run at more normal levels in the 1% to 2% range. And based upon prior historical outcomes, we believe we should see similar recovery rates. With respect to our watch list, we were hit with a perfect storm earlier this year. As those tenants roll off the watch list, we do not see any major additions at this time. Burger King has been in the news recently as a large franchisee for Burger King filed for bankruptcy. However, we do not have any properties leased to this operator. We own 3 freestanding Burger King restaurants and 2 gas convenience stations with operating Burger Kings as part, all of low rents. And all of our Burger King restaurants are open, operating and current on rent. Additionally, although Applebee's has reported recent store closings, our 3 Applebee's are open, operating and current on rent. We have very good clarity into 2025 renewals. At this time, we expect 3 tenants not to renew this year, o 1 of which is a Walgreens that we previously mentioned, that now has leasing and purchase interest. The other 2 are leases for small properties that have not yet expired. We are already negotiating a contract to sell one of the assets and are in active negotiations to [ lease ] the other assets. So we do not expect any meaningful downtime for these 2 assets. Moving now to the portfolio highlights. Our portfolio continues to perform well. As of March 31, 2025, our portfolio consisted of 323 freestanding properties with an average remaining lease term of over 7 years. We are heavily diversified across 37 states and 117 metro areas. We are pleased to keep a very diversified portfolio with limited exposure to any one tenant. At quarter end, our largest tenant exposure was about 3.1% of ABR, while our occupancy rate at the end of Q1 2025 ticked down slightly to over 96%. It's expected to return to more normalized levels once the replacements have taken occupancy. Rental collections on contractual rent were strong at approximately 99.5% for the period. Our tenants are predominantly [ service ] in nature, and we do not have a large exposure to general retailers that could be impacted more so from prolonged or higher tariffs. We continue to monitor our tenants in this regard. On a go-forward basis, beginning with the release of our first quarter financials, we will be expanding the detailed disclosure of our tenancies from top 20 to top 40 in our investor presentation. Thank you. Let me turn it over to Randy for more details on the quarterly numbers and guidance.

Randall Starr

executive
#4

Thanks, Steve. I'll begin by discussing our financial results for the first quarter, followed by an overview of our capital markets activities and our guidance for 2025. I am very pleased to report that for the first quarter, we reported AFFO per share of $0.30, reflecting certain operating efficiencies and strong rent collections for lease properties of 99.5%. Our G&A and property leakage figures came in better than expected when compared with our modeling, reflecting our team's ability to efficiently and effectively operate and manage our business. We continue to be pleased with our acquisition volumes at above-market cap rates, thanks to our ability to capitalize on our niche market. And we expect these acquisitions to contribute significantly to cash flow growth as our cost of capital improves. Our debt to annualized adjusted EBITDA ratio finished the quarter at 5.7x, underscoring our prudent approach to leverage and a robust balance sheet. Long term, we'd like to keep this ratio between 5x and 6x that we do expect in the near term to exceed 6x, staying well below 7x, as we continue to draw down on our line to acquire properties throughout the year at our revised cadence. We do not have any debt maturities in the near term. And in terms of capital markets activities, during the first quarter, we recently locked in our $200 million term loan for 3 years at a SOFR rate of 3.66%, representing an all-in borrowing rate of 4.96%, approximately 65 basis points lower than our current revolver borrowings. Given the makeup of our capital structure, our earnings are a bit more sensitive to short-term SOFR swings until we achieve greater scale, which was the rationale for prudently locking in a large portion of our previously floating rate debt. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2025, we are reaffirming AFFO per share guidance within the range of $1.20 to $1.26. Key assumptions for fiscal year 2025 underlying this guidance include net real estate acquisitions totaling between $125 million and $145 million, property dispositions ranging from $20 million to $40 million, nonreimbursed property and operating expenses projected between $2 million and $2.6 million, maintaining a previously disclosed bad debt expense of between 2% and 3% of cash NOI. This figure includes the 7 of the 12 previously disclosed tenants that are allocated to 2025. Total cash, general and administrative expenses estimated between $8.9 million and $9.3 million. Our AFFO guidance affirmation is driven by our inherent ability to source and acquire assets at above market cap rates, prudently recycle existing assets from our granular and diversified portfolio with new replacement properties and effectively and efficiently managing our property leakage and G&A expenses. As Steve mentioned, our disciplined underwriting and sourcing of assets outside the competitive public REIT landscape are key differentiators. We remain committed to returning capital to shareholders. Our Board has declared a quarterly dividend of $0.215 per share for the first quarter that we believe appropriately balances shareholder returns with reinvestment into growing our portfolio. Thank you for your attention. And with that, we'll turn it back to the operator for the Q&A portion of our call today.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question comes from John Kilichowski from Wells Fargo.

William John Kilichowski

analyst
#6

SP-4 Maybe if we could just start with the credit loss guide 2% to 3%. I appreciate the color you gave kind of the 7 properties there. But I was just hoping for maybe a little bit more here because Hooters and Jo Ann's are still paying rent. Could you tell us if that was expected in that guide or where that puts you? And then also maybe the 3 tenants that told you that aren't renewing, what of that is included in the guidance as well?

Stephen Preston

executive
#7

Yes, sure. So for our internal modeling purposes, we did assume that within that 2% to 3% that we had those 7 vacant for the year, and that's how we have modeled. We have taken a small additional vacancy expense just for some sort of unknown that may populate, that gets us to that 2% to 3% for the year. With respect to the 3 assets that we expect not to renew, they are small in nature. We have a Walgreens, as we mentioned, and then we have 2 smaller tenants. Combined, they represent less than 100 bps of ABR.

William John Kilichowski

analyst
#8

Got it. And then maybe, Randy, one for you. congrats on taking over the CFO seat now as well. Maybe strategically, I don't know if you differ from Tim at all here. And I know we're a long way now from thinking about issuing equity in '26. But at some point, hopefully, that becomes a consideration again. How are you thinking about that? Where do you all need to be trading for that to kind of come back into consideration?

Randall Starr

executive
#9

Well, I think it's no secret that we're obviously very unhappy with our current share price. It certainly doesn't reflect the value of our portfolio. That is one reason why we have -- while we continue to see -- it's a very constructive transaction environment out there right now. And so our acquisition team has a number of fantastic leads that we would be able to act on. But we have purposely scaled down, as you can see from our guidance, just to make sure that we have sufficient liquidity at the end of the year. With our acquisition of cadence now, that would leave us to between $60 million and $70 million of liquidity projected at year-end, which we think gives us some flexibility heading into next year and also gives us more time to have [ time ] to rebound. We also -- obviously, we're also very mindful of our debt-to-EBITDA ratios here, and those will be staying in the 6s as projected this year. But we do have a $200 million accordion feature on our line. So we do have ample access to liquidity.

Operator

operator
#10

Than k you so much for the question, John. And now we're going to move on to Daniel Guglielmo from Capital One Securities.

Daniel Guglielmo

analyst
#11

I appreciate the work you all have been doing around the offline properties. As you've gone through those negotiations, have you seen any tangible benefits from the properties having direct frontage? Are there pricing benefits, more interest, quicker closing times? Anything you have around that would be great.

Stephen Preston

executive
#12

Yes, for sure. And that's a great question. Thank you for that. Yes. No, I think that it speaks to the makeup and composition of our portfolio and assets that do contain that frontage. So given the short time that these were hit, the fact that we have made such progress such quickly -- or so quickly, I think we'd love to say that it's the management team that we put a pad on our back. And certainly, that is some component of it. But the assets themselves on the real estate standpoint that we so very carefully choose is very integral to that response and that quick response. And again, the asset size that we have with the larger footprint makes these buildings and land tracks interesting to a lot of other opportunities and options, which allows us to facilitate a quicker cleanup of any assets that come back. So yes, I absolutely believe that these assets compare to a large box that sits back without frontage is certainly a huge benefit, and it allows us to tailor an approach that is a lot quicker to clean up.

Daniel Guglielmo

analyst
#13

Great. I appreciate that. And then in the commentary, you mentioned the increased disposition guidance. Are there certain characteristics of the properties in the portfolio that you feel are kind of right for recycling? You mentioned the shorter lease terms, but is there anything else that's been enticing buyers to transact at a lower cap rate?

Stephen Preston

executive
#14

Yes. Again, a good question. And so we look at that and we come through the portfolio and certainly, the shorter-term duration assets are ones that are good to sell off into the space. And then if we can accretively turn that into an asset that happens to have a longer lease term, then that's beneficial to us. At the same time, there are other assets that have some certain rents that could be harder to backfill at the time of renewal. So we're looking at that aspect of it as well that allows us to take an -- offload it and then replace that later with a better cap rate asset and an asset with a rent that is more replaceable.

Randall Starr

executive
#15

And we also, Dan, we'll look at the sector as well. We've been very cognizant of the type of sectors that we've been in for the past since the IPO. We've really been targeting medical, dental, veterinary services, automotive services, convenience stores, QSR, fitness, finance and if they're well located, a few Dollars stores as well. So if we have the opportunity to recycle, let's say, a sector, whether it's casual dining or one that we're really not focusing on now, with the newer assets with a longer lease term, we see that as quite favorable for the portfolio.

Stephen Preston

executive
#16

And there's also a cap rate arbitrage as well that to roll into that. As we mentioned in our remarks, we have assets that would trade in the marketplace at significantly lower cap rates than at cap rates that we're acquiring at. In terms of how we try to do this, just to give you a little bit more information on it, when we're selling properties, we hire brokers who we know have phenomenal [indiscernible] buyers all over the country. And these are brokers who we typically don't like to buy from because they get very good cap rates. We like to buy from the brokers who are smaller and also direct through our relationships. So we're vary strategic on who we hire and sell our properties.

Operator

operator
#17

And now we're going to move to Anthony Paolone from JPMorgan.

Anthony Paolone

analyst
#18

First question is if I look in your supplemental, you ended the quarter with -- you showed $62 million of annual base rent. Can you just maybe bridge the 12 properties, like what's in that $62 million, what's not? Just so I understand kind of your guidance, what's more of a sort of guide or reserve for lack of a better term versus like what you're showing here that's actually contractually still in place?

Stephen Preston

executive
#19

Yes. So we've got Sean here as well that can jump in. But within that 62, we believe that the 7 are not part of that. So we would just have any additional incremental vacancy that we will be taking off the top of that. So that rental revenue is not built into the 62 and then being taken off of -- we're at a net number on the 62.

Anthony Paolone

analyst
#20

Okay. So we should think about if -- with those 7 properties on a road tenant...

Stephen Preston

executive
#21

Yes, you should have taken off another 2% and change off of the 62 to reflect the 7 properties.

Anthony Paolone

analyst
#22

Right. So conversely, like late '25, early '26 you're going to add to the 62 in theory, if those get backfilled?

Stephen Preston

executive
#23

Correct.

Anthony Paolone

analyst
#24

Okay. Got it. And then you mentioned kind of normalized bad debt of, I think, 1% to 1.5% over time. How should we think about that just on -- in terms of steady state? You have contractual bumps of, call it, about 1.5 points. So what do you think the steady-state recovery of that 1 to 1.5 bad debt number is net against sort of the organic growth rate, like so that -- like how should we think about just steady-state net NOI growth, if you will?

Stephen Preston

executive
#25

Yes, for sure. So yes, that's right. So typically, the leases have either rental escalations or they bump typically every 5 years. And you're usually bumping about 10% every 5 years, 7.5% to 10% or you're sort of 1% to 2% annually, and that gets you into that [ 1 3, 1 4, 1 5 ] sort of average. Based on the 10%, it's not an exact science each year. So you have that inherent to the portfolio. And then with respect to the other bad debt of the portfolio, it...

Randall Starr

executive
#26

We recover about 75%.

Stephen Preston

executive
#27

Yes. Yes. Yes. We recover about -- yes, we had to keep the recovery about the same, but the 75% to 100% based upon our historical recovery rates.

Anthony Paolone

analyst
#28

Okay. Got it. And then just last one. I mean, obviously, you're doing -- you're taking actions here to get your cost of capital back. But I mean if we sit here and think about fast forward, whether it's 12 months, 18 months, if you're still in a situation where you just don't have access to equity, what is sort of plan B? I mean, how long do you guys foresee doing this before there has to be some other action beyond just waiting for the capital cost to come back through recycling and so forth?

Stephen Preston

executive
#29

Yes. I mean, listen, it's a good question and it's top of mind for everybody, of course, right? So we want to make sure that we can continue to execute, which I think we've been doing. We want to continue to make sure that we're making prudent decisions within the portfolio. I think that we've demonstrated that we've got the resiliency of the portfolio certainly based upon the quick and successful re-tenanting of the 12 assets we've mentioned. And then ultimately, we want to make sure that we can recycle assets accretively. So we do have that option. If we get back and we get to a point where we're sitting a couple of quarters down the road and we're still sitting in a stock price that looks the way it does today, you have to take a position that you start to look at M&A and other options for the company. But all along the road, we're going to continue to make the best decisions and then make the best responses for the business.

Operator

operator
#30

And for our next question, we're going to move on to [ Jana Galan ] from Bank of America.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#31

Thank you, and good morning. I'm curious, how you're thinking about your investment spreads between recycling the portfolio and using new capital? It sounds like you could buy in the mid- to high 7s and then sell in the mid- to high 6s. Is that the correct way to think about it?

Stephen Preston

executive
#32

Yes, I think it's going to look like. When you kind of see a blended average of the assets that are going to come offline versus through sales, I think you're going to see a blended average. So yes, we are seeing that that's accretive. We have some as the case of the Raising Cane's that we mentioned that will be below that 6.5% or rather noncore assets that you think that will be slightly elevated beyond the 6.5%. But yes, I'd like to see -- I think you can see about 100 basis points or so spread on average between where we would exit and then where we would acquire.

Randall Starr

executive
#33

And in the meantime, increasing our [ vault ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

Great. And I apologize if I missed this in the sup, but do you disclose average or median tenant rent coverage? I see that you get financial reporting from a large portion of your portfolio.

Randall Starr

executive
#35

Yes, we do not disclose at this time.

Operator

operator
#36

Thank you so much for the question, [ Jana ]. And since there are no further questions at this time. Please continue, Steve.

Stephen Preston

executive
#37

Yes. So thank you, everybody. We appreciate the questions. We appreciate your time, and we look forward to collectively building this company. And we hope for improved share price as we go. But we're going to continue to make the right prudent and decisions for this business. And we'll be at NAREIT. And anyone that would like to sit down and visit, we're going to be there and welcome the opportunity. Thank you all.

Operator

operator
#38

Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect. Thank you, everyone.

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