Genel Energy plc (GENL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 14, 2023
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Operator
operatorGood morning, and welcome to the Genel Energy Plc Trading and Operations Update. Throughout this recorded presentation, investors will be in this in only mode. [Operator Instructions] The company may not be in a position to answer every question received during the meeting itself. However, the company will review all questions submitted today and publish responses where appropriate to do so. Before we begin, I would like to submit the following poll. And I would now like to hand you over to CFO, Luke Clements. Good morning, sir.
Luke Clements
executiveGood morning. Thank you. My name is Luke Clements, I'm the CFO of Genel Energy, and this is a short presentation covering our normal quarterly trading update. The first slide provides an overview of where we are today. As you will be aware from previous updates, the Iraq-Turkiye pipeline has been shut since March, and we have not exported oil since then. We remain firmly of the view that exports will resume and we'll be paid all that we are owed for past and future sales. We note the very recent public in statement of positive sentiment for major political stakeholders to support that view. And the recent statements suggest a general alignment on the need for urgent resumption and pipeline exports and an increase in pace towards that objective. I'll provide a little more detail on this later in the presentation. Against that backdrop of no exports and no export payments. We've been working hard to keep moving forward and optimize and simplify all areas of our business. On the Tawke PSC, the operator has achieved significant spend reductions and to successfully increased local sales volumes. In combination, this has resulted in the Tawke PSC being cash generative in Q3 with an expectation that this cash generation should improve with higher local sales expected in Q4. Away from production, we've continued to use our cash carefully with principal activity being an efficient handover of starter to the KRG, Somaliland Civils and continued spend on Miran and Bina Bawi oil and gas arbitration. We've reduced our debt by $26 million since the start of the year, and it's now just under $250 million. We've maintained a strong balance sheet position with net cash of $132 million at the end of the quarter and cash of $391 million. This means that our position is resilient, we can be opportunistic, and we have sufficient capital available to materially add new assets to our portfolio, which remains a key objective for this business. Next slide, please. I'll now talk briefly on the export pipeline. There was pretty limited news flow over the summer, during which it was reported that Turkiye was carrying out repairs on the pipeline following the earthquake. From about mid-September onwards, we've seen increasing volume and frequency of positive news flow, which appears to represent a change from some of the statements that have been made before the summer. I'll just run through a few of those in chronological order, so you get a feel for the progression. In early October, the Turkiye Minister reported that the repair work on the pipeline was complete, and it will be ready to operate within a week to supply 0.5 million barrels. Towards the end of October, Iraqi Prime Minister, Sudani indicated that they were seeking agreement to resume oil production within a month. Last week, there was a meeting between Apica, the Trade Association of a Collection of Kurdistan IOCs, of which, we are a founder member, and the Ministry of Oil and SOMO to discuss the restart of exports with Apica reporting positively that it was agreed that the basis of future exports must be acceptable to all parties. And now very recently, the Iraqi Oil Minister has said this week that he expects to reach an agreement with the Kurdistan regional government and foreign oil companies to resume oil reduction from the Kurdistan oil field within 3 days. Although there is no clarity on timing yet, the senior and the politicians making these positive comments and the competition and frequency of delegations suggest a positive direction of travel and some more determination to rest exports. We are encouraged by these recent developments and hope that the positive words and meetings regarding restarted exports represent real urgent determination to reopen the export rate to international prices. Next slide, please. Away from exports, we've been working hard to optimize spend and deliver the cost reductions that we committed to at the half year. We are on track for those reductions, including reducing the organization by over 55%. We are also on track to start to exit where we fully exit the license at the end of this month and expect to complete some limited remediation work by early 2024. On Somaliland, we've had a good 6 months. This is frontier exploration, and we will step through this with care and attention. We are pleased to report that we're on track to deliver our Civils work on time and within the budget around at the end of the year. Meanwhile, we continuously assess our next steps towards delivering the exciting Toosan one well prospect in this underexplored basin. And finally, we continue to spend money and work towards the Miran and Bina Bawi oil and gas arbitration, which is currently scheduled for a 2-week hearing in February. As you can see from the chart, once we are through these nonrepeating items, including the pay down of payables accrued from last year, the monthly net spend of the business that we have seen since half year will significantly decrease. Next, please, Andrew. We have cash of $391 million and debt of $264 million at the end of the quarter. That debt is now reduced to $248 million following the repurchase of further bonds in October. Overall, we've reduced debt by $26 million since the start of the year at a price that represents a meaningful discount to par. With that new level of bond debt, our net annualized bond interest is now under $10 million per annum, being a 9.25% coupon less around 5% we own on our cash. The significant net cash position provides us with significant resilience and opportunity where we continue to work to add assets to our portfolio. So on to our last slide, which provides an overview of our near-term focus. We will continue to be cost effective with our spend while delivering the reductions in business simplification that we committed to. We will continue to work towards maximizing revenue from sales and working towards export restart and recovery of receivables. We will use our cash to take the business forward with an undiminished determination to add new assets to diversify our income, increase cash generation and optimize our capital structure. And finally, we continue to progress meticulously towards arbitration in February. And now I'll hand over to Andrew for Q&A.
Andrew Benbow
executiveI hope you can hear me okay. The first question, as you can imagine, I had many questions along this theme. I think that can all be summarized as politicians are being reported as saying that the pipeline will reopen this week. Is this accurate?
Luke Clements
executiveSo I touched on this in the presentation. The -- it's clear to me that the positive news flow over the last month or so, it's quite different to what it was like before. I think the KRG reported to be meeting with the federal government this week, and those meetings are ongoing. So very positive news flow. And as I said in the presentation, the seniority of the politicians making those positive comments is encouraging. As it stands, we do not have clarity on when the pipeline will open. We do not have a clear instruction on when the pipeline will open. But we are certainly encouraged by that news flow. We hope it turns into something concrete in terms of the date for restarting production.
Andrew Benbow
executiveThere's other questions about our local sales and what is your current revenue from local sales? And is it sufficient to cover your costs?
Luke Clements
executiveSo I mentioned in the presentation that the Tawke PSC is cash generative, that's good. DNO have done a great job getting the volumes of local sales up. The challenge with local sales is the refining capacity. So you can -- although the buyers have committed to buy volumes, they also need to refine that oil and there's limited capacity on refining. So at times, there are delays in getting the domestic sales going. I think if you assume for us on Tawke PSC, the worst we do is cover our costs on a month. And on a good month, you might double that, so you might get $10 million of revenue for $5 million of costs on a good day, but it depends a bit on that refinery capacity availability, which is why we're not really forecasting domestic sales at the moment.
Andrew Benbow
executiveThe next question also relates to the Turkey license. It's quite a long question with possibly a relatively short answer. Can you please give an indication if Genel was able to reclaim outstanding debt in October similar to DNO, who have stated publicly that they got $8 million back of their outstanding amounts due to higher production levels. On a 75-25 split, it would suggest that Genel should have been able to recover close to $3 million of the $110 million that's outstanding. Is that correct?
Luke Clements
executiveYes, DNO is the operator and they're managing those cash flows. So that's about right.
Andrew Benbow
executiveThere's a couple of other questions that we've had regarding our African operations. Can you give a brief progress report on the [indiscernible], farm-out, please?
Luke Clements
executiveIt's ongoing. It's ongoing. We've had some quite interesting interest, if I can say that. There are people doing work on the technical. We feel that a lot of people are looking down the way of what ENI's [indiscernible] well result does. I think if that well is good, that's good for us. If that well is not good, it's certainly not the end of the story is there's multiple plays that we might be able to access here. So it's moving along, we're keen to find a way to access this opportunity and do that well. Let's see the ENI result improves interest all let's see the people who are already looking at it decided to take it forward.
Andrew Benbow
executiveAnother question on sales going forward. And is there a possibility to proceed with the hybrid sales structure of exporting and local sales?
Luke Clements
executiveWe've done it before. We've done it before. I don't think anything is off the table at this stage when we're trying to manage cash flows and maximize price quite possibly. It depends on how this plays out. You have to be pragmatic and open minded as we try and step through a pretty tough period since March, and we tried to maximize our cash generation and also the long-term value delivery. So let's see, but it's certainly not a no.
Andrew Benbow
executiveAnother question relates to -- as the question comes about cash burn, saying it looks like cash burn is $35 million per quarter. I think what I can take inferno that question, is that something that can be expected going forward?
Luke Clements
executiveYes. No is the answer. Cash burn and the name implies your burning cash, not doing very much. I think it's fair to say we've been doing things. If you look at the chart that I put up earlier, you can see that if you take out the nonrepeating items like one buybacks, Sarta or [indiscernible], Somaliland Civils and you look at the core kind of forward business, which is kind of your production spend on Tawke and your G&A, you're going to get pretty close to breakeven on domestic sales once you're through those. So again, we haven't guided on -- if you want to call it, cash burn or monthly net cash outflow because it's very much a moving feast, and I think domestic sales will improve as well. So I'm -- $35 million is not reflective of a quarterly net cash outflow when we go forward with this business.
Andrew Benbow
executiveA question as you expect on M&A? And have any potential acquisitions to reach the final stages?
Luke Clements
executiveYes, I can't comment on that. I won't comment on that going forward. I can say we are continuing to see a healthy number of opportunities continues to be a challenge to find consensus between buyer and vendor on price. As an example of an asset that we looked at about a year ago, and took quite a long way through. We revisited again this year and prior to peers to have gone up in the vendor expectation. But we're seeing opportunities. We're continuing to work them. What we're not going to do is rushing to doing a deal that is not a good deal. So we'll maintain our discipline, and we'll continue to be meticulous in how we assess the opportunities in it for the right deal, we will lean into it and be aggressive where we can be. But we're not going to do a deal for the sake of doing a deal.
Andrew Benbow
executiveWe're jumping back now to Africa, specifically the Horn of Africa. Any updates on the Somaliland operation and what progress has there been on that front?
Luke Clements
executiveYes. I think as I said in my presentation, the Civils work is going well. It's on time, it's on budget. I think we've had a good few months on Somaliland. It's frontier exploration. I probably said it's a very good few months bearing that in mind, and we'll continue to step through it very carefully and continue to assess how we take it forward. But it's been a good few months and the work is on track.
Andrew Benbow
executiveRenting, I think, into the final questions now. One of them is what is the current culture of engagement with M&R? I think it's worth widening that question to what's the general culture of engagement at the moment between all parties? In fact, I'll probably end up answering my own question here because I think one of the things that we've seen in recent weeks is actually the engagement between all parties is very good. You've seen a top-level delegation going from a bill to bad debt -- from bad debt to a bill rather they're there at the moment. Those conversations seem to be progressing very well as we've seen from the reports. This also follows the meeting that was held with Africa last week that I think was also held with a very positive tone. So I think at the moment, the culture of engagement between all parties actually is very strong, which is one of the things that gives us enormous encouragement. Final question, I think, now, Luke, it's been asked a couple of times is, how long would it take for Genel to return output to pre-shutdown levels when the pipeline reopens?
Luke Clements
executiveI'm told it's relatively quick. And we're obviously really focusing on the Tawke PSC, which is DNO operated. It's weeks rather than months, is my understanding. It will be very nice to be trying to ramp that production up to maximum levels and to get to a position where we can invest again in the asset and drill wells. So if we can get the pipeline reopen, and we can get consistency of repeatable, predictable payments that will provide the right frame for us to maximize the production from that license.
Andrew Benbow
executiveAnd with that, I think that, that answers the vast majority, if not all, I'm afraid there always may be a couple of questions that we've missed, but I hope that answers all the key questions that people have. As a reminder, if you feel that your question hasn't been answered, please do e-mail me or call me. I can guarantee you that we'll respond to every e-mail that we get, and we take everyone seriously, where they come from the smallest or larger shareholder. So with that said, I'll just pass over to Luke to say some final words, and we look forward to catching up with you at our next update, if not before.
Luke Clements
executiveThanks, Andrew. So I'll just reiterate what I said already. The sentiment looks good. There looks like determination to restart exports and with senior time and energy going towards that. So we're encouraged. We are keen to do our part to restart exports. And we very hope the next time we speak to you, we'll be able to report on that. Thanks for your time.
Operator
operatorPerfectly, Andrew, thank you very much indeed for updating investors today. Could I please ask investors not to close this session as you will now be automatically redirected to provide your feedback and rules that the management team can better understand your views and expectations. This will only take a few moments to complete and I'm sure we'll be greatly valued by the company. On behalf of the management team of Genel Energy Plc, we'd like to thank you for attending today's presentation, and good morning to you all.
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