Global Net Lease, Inc. (GNL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

June 7, 2022

New York Stock Exchange US Real Estate Diversified REITs conference_presentation 28 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Bryan Maher

analyst
#1

My name is Bryan Maher. I'm the senior analyst at B. Riley Securities covering Global Net Lease. And with me today, we have CEO, Jim Nelson; and CFO, Chris Masterson. And so why don't we start off with Jim, maybe give a quick overview of the company, and then we'll go into some questions I have. And feel free to raise your hand and ask any questions throughout the presentation if you have any. There's a mic there or you can bring the questions up to me whatever you prefer. Jim?

James Nelson

executive
#2

Thanks. Thanks, Bryan, and thank you, everybody, for coming today. It's good to see all of you here. I'm going to let Chris do a little bit of a brief overview, and then I'll add some color to it after he's done. So go ahead, Chris.

Christopher Masterson

executive
#3

Sure. So obviously, we're Global Net Lease. We have a single tenant net lease-focused portfolio. Many of our properties are what we consider to be mission-critical between headquarters, R&D, major distribution facilities. We have 309 properties, cover 39.3 million square feet. But what's important to note is we actually do have exposure to both the U.S. and Europe. So at this point, we're split about 60% in the U.S., 40% in Europe. Outside of that, just some key highlights, if we do really value the credit quality of our tenants. So at this point, about 60% of our tenants are either investment-grade or implied investment grade. And we really think that speaks to the strength of our portfolio. And where that really did shine through was during all of COVID. We collected between 98% and 100% of our rent. We're currently collecting 100% of our rent. We've done that for probably about 6 quarters in a row. We did no abatements. We did do some deferrals for certain tenants, but they are now paying us back. So really, we think the strength of the portfolio is something that adds a lot of value, and it's really important to us.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#4

Great. So you have an interesting portfolio. I think you talked a little bit about the geographic diversification. I mean, was this done by design? And if so, why? And do you envision the mix shift of those assets changing as we go through the next couple of years?

James Nelson

executive
#5

Well, when Chris and I started -- can everybody hear me okay? Okay. Great. When Chris and I started running the company 5 years ago, we inherited a mix of properties. And it was about 50% in Europe and 50% in the U.S. We're really opportunistic buyers. We look for the value of the property, the quality of the tenant, location, all the good real estate metrics. But we got down to about 35-65, 35% Europe, 65% in the U.S. because we found really the first 3 years, Chris and I were running the company, we found a lot better deals in the U.S. Recently, we found some really terrific deals in Europe. So we're -- right now, we're about 60-40. So it may go up or down every year depending on what we buy and where we buy it, but there will always be that diversification. We have what, 309 properties in 11 countries, and they're all so solid companies with good sovereign credit ratings. As Chris said, we do look to the credit quality of the tenant because even in trying times like during COVID, we collected 99% of our rents. So it does speak to the quality of portfolio. But the mix will shift over time. It could be more U.S., more Europe, really depending on where we find value.

Christopher Masterson

executive
#6

And just to add to that, too, Jim mentioned about the diversification. So of our top 10 tenants, they only make up about 33% of the portfolio and none of the tenants make up more than 6%. So really, we do have a lot of diversification across the portfolio. Also, when we take a look at the asset type, right now, we have about 55% industrial and distribution, 42% office and only 3% retail. 5 years ago, when Jim and I joined the team, we probably had about 30% industrial and distribution at that point. And we've really put a focus on through our acquisitions over the last 4 to 5 years, and try and acquire high-quality industrial distribution properties. I would say each year, it's been about 80% of the properties that we've acquired have been either industrial or distribution. And that's really driven up the percentage from that 30% to the 55%, and that's something that we're going to look to continue going forward.

James Nelson

executive
#7

I also think it's important to clarify the type of office properties that we own. We don't own office properties in the large industrial centers like New York, Chicago or L.A. We own -- our office properties are usually in secondary markets or in suburbs and they're usually headquarter buildings or R&D buildings. So we don't have people commuting on trains and subways which a lot of people are hesitant to do. We don't -- most of our tenants have told us that rather than shrinking their size of their space and usually, they have the whole building. Always they're single-tenant buildings. They're going to spread people out a little more and maybe have people come into the office 2 or 3 days a week. So we feel very confident that the type of office that we have will maintain its value and its occupancy.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#8

Great. And so you have the properties in the U.S. and in Europe and over my 25 years doing this, I've had several REITs who have tried to buy stuff in Europe and ultimately, 5, 10 years later, exited that. What kind of challenges is that presenting to you as a global asset manager doing it in both continents?

James Nelson

executive
#9

It really hasn't caused us any problem. We have a really good team in London and Luxembourg. And having a triple net lease portfolio or a net lease portfolio with single tenants is not the same as having multi-tenant buildings with lots of leases expiring. It's a relatively simple business to run, assuming you have high-quality tenants, which for us is the key. So we're very comfortable with having assets in 11 countries, and it's worked very well for us. We haven't had any issues in the 5 years that I've been here and the years before when Chris and I joined.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#10

Maybe, Chris, you could address how you deal with the debt in both areas and where you skew issuing debt for those assets?

Christopher Masterson

executive
#11

Sure. When it comes to acquiring properties in Europe, typically, what we'll do is we'll take out debt in the local currency. So obviously, in the U.K., we use the pounds, we use the euro in the rest of Europe. We do have credit facility also, which allows us to draw in multiple different currencies. So we really have a lot of access to, as mentioned, the euros or the pounds. What we also do is when we take a look at our exposure in the foreign currencies, we have a hedging program in place to help minimize the risk. Obviously, there's a lot of volatility in the markets. But what we'll do is we'll take a look at our net cash flows, and we'll layer in FX forwards quarterly. So at that point, we know at the end of the quarter, what we'll be converting from euro or pound back to USD. We report in USD, we pay dividends in USD. So it's really important for us to know what cash flow we're actually going to be getting from Europe. And this program that we put in place, we're not looking to really take positions in the currency we're really looking to just really minimize the risk kind of the safeguard.

James Nelson

executive
#12

And let me add just 2 things to that when you buy properties into local currency, it's a natural hedge. And secondly, we're not currency traders. We're looking for stability in pricing. So since we do pay dividends in dollars, we want to know what our cash flow is going to look like on an even level for at least the next 3 years.

Christopher Masterson

executive
#13

And just to add to that, too, given that we are able to take debt out in Europe, we've seen some incredible rates over there. I mean, we have some loans that are 1.4% and average debt maturity on our portfolio is 4 years. So obviously, in this market where the interest rates are creeping up, we have locked in rates that are very favorable for us.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#14

Kind of sticking with the portfolio for a second before shifting gears. You have, I think, 3% or so left in retail. At what point do you just kind of get rid of that and kind of clean it up and just be all industrial office? Or are you happy holding that?

James Nelson

executive
#15

Well, we've been opportunistic sellers of our retail properties. When -- again, when Chris and I started 5 years ago, 10% of our properties were retail, we're down to 3%. So as opportunities arise, we will be disposing of the balance of the retail portfolio. There's no set time on it. But again, we are opportunistic sellers. So when we get the right price, we will be sellers.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#16

And can you talk a little bit about rent escalators in the portfolio? Anything tied to CPI? How do you think about that as we kind of work through high inflationary environment?

Christopher Masterson

executive
#17

Sure. So 94% of our leases have rent escalators. That's something that's very important to us when we enter into a lease. On average, I would say it's about 2% is the annual escalator. That being said, the leases all have different terms. So of the 94% that rent escalators, 30% of them have CPI is with the escalator and many of those with the CPI also have floors.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#18

One of your big recent acquisitions last year was the McLaren headquarters in the U.K. How did you source that deal? I mean it was a pretty big transaction. Why that property?

James Nelson

executive
#19

Well, one of the things about the way we acquire properties. A lot of our acquisitions are relationship deals. Relationships with sellers. We do a lot of sale and leasebacks. We do a lot of continual sale and leasebacks with companies we've done business with before. We have relationships for many years with some of the key brokers in the U.S. and Europe. So we're often able to look at a property prior to them putting it out for bid and preempt the bidding process and make a very quick deal on it. McLaren came to us, even though it was shopped a little bit, our senior management had a relationship with McLaren. As many of you may or may not know, McLaren is owned 60% by the sovereign wealth fund of Bahrain. I have friends that are working with the sovereign wealth fund. So I -- speaking to them found out they're a very big supporter of the company, of McLaren. And when we took a look at it with the risk because they had some issues in -- during COVID, with one of their big moneymakers is selling McLaren cars, they have F1 Racing. They have a research and development. And when we took a look at this facility, it's a very new state-of-the-art beautiful facility but an hour outside of London. We hired an independent firm to tell us if McLaren ever had a problem. Could we re-lease the property at similar rates? And the answer came back, yes, so that gave us a lot of confidence. And because of the relationship we had with senior management of McLaren, we ended up winning the deal. And it is an absolutely stunning property. I mean, it's just an amazing property State-of-the-art, green, with a lot of green around it that can't be built on. There's a lot of parking. So it's a really prime location in a prime property. We're really pleased with that acquisition. It also gave us finally enough, a lot of press in Europe. So our deal flow from Europe after we bought McLaren grew quite a bit, and we've seen a lot more really good deals in Europe than we were seeing prior. So all in all, it worked out very well for us.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#20

So let's talk about that with your criteria for acquisitions. When you're out there looking at properties, what type of cap rates are you sourcing? I know from having covered you for years, you've put up some acquisitions that I go to my other companies and like, why can't you do this with the cap rates you're getting on some of your industrial assets. What are you focused on? And what gets you kind of over the hump on a deal?

James Nelson

executive
#21

That's a great question because -- and usually, when we talk to investors, one of the things people say is, how do you find such great deals? I mean, how do you buy consistently properties with good cap rates. And it's a -- it's honestly a combination of things. It's relationships quite often. It's being able to come in and close a deal. We draw the cash out of our credit facility. So we can close a deal without any financial worries. And we -- there are a number of companies we bought multiple properties from in sale and leasebacks when they have -- and they do an acquisition or they're expanding. They'll bring the property to us. As I said, a lot of it is relationship based. But we've been very, very fortunate. I would say, on average, Chris, what would you say, about 7.5%, 7.5% cap rate going in for the last 5 years and we bought well over $1.5 billion, close to $2 billion worth of properties in the last 5 years at very good cap rates with mostly investment-grade tenants in great locations. An example would be we bought a distribution facility from Rubbermaid. And the distribution facility is right next to where they manufacture a lot of their products. So it's really important to the tenant. It's right there. It's where they ship everything out of. So it goes from manufacturing to distribution. So when you say is it property important to a tenant, I mean this is important to a tenant. We bought a light manufacturing facility from Fiat Chrysler, and you may scratch your head, Fiat Chrysler, third tier, automobile company, but what's their best-selling product, pickup trucks. I mean that's what they make the majority of their money on. This is a facility that finishes the pickup trucks. So they manufacture it, they roll them over here. This is when they put on the big wheels, the plastic truck beds, the lights. So I mean, it's really a very important facility to Fiat Chrysler because it's where they do -- where they finish their most important products. And we love it because if anything happened to Fiat Chrysler, it will be great for Toyota, it will be great for Ford, everybody who's in the pickup truck business. So that's the type of stuff that we look for. And we've been very, very fortunate in finding a lot of great properties over the years.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#22

All right. So kind of shifting gears off of a very successful last couple of years. We've noticed that your acquisition pace has slowed a bit in the past quarter or 2. Maybe give us a little color on what the pipeline currently looks like? What are you seeing as attractive? And are there any new geographies that you're looking to get into maybe outside of the U.S. and Europe?

James Nelson

executive
#23

Go ahead with the first part of that, Chris.

Christopher Masterson

executive
#24

Sure. So at this point, between what we've closed on the year and what we have in the pipeline, it's about $110 million. The average GAAP cap rate is about 7.5%. This year, so far, it's all been focused in the U.S. But obviously, we are looking in Europe.

James Nelson

executive
#25

Yes. Let me just say that we're being cautious right now. Cap rates are following interest rates going up. I think a number of sellers are thinking what's going to happen. So we think the last half of the year, there may be better bargains out there for us to buy. So we're keeping a lot of dry powder. So that as we see better deals, we'll be able to move on those. We -- and just as an example, last year, we bought an office building in the island of Guernsey, which is a channel island between the U.K. and France. And they call them tax advantage islands because there are better tax treatments and things like that. The reason we bought this building, and it was brought to us by a broker that we know is that there's 2 anchor tenants. It's an unusual building because usually we buy single-tenant buildings. The anchor tenants are Northern Trust, which you all know, great U.S. company, great credit and Aztec, which is another huge servicing company. Northern Trust had a 15-year lease. Aztec had 1.5 years left on their lease. So we bought the property at an 8 cap, a going-in 8 cap, which was a fantastic deal. It's one of the nicest office buildings in Guernsey and 100% occupied. And what we did prior to closing on the building, we went to Aztec and we said we'd like to extend your lease they were unhappy with the previous owner and the previous management company. We made a deal with Aztec to extend their lease 15 years. 2 days after we close the deal, we signed the extension on their lease. That's a great deal for us. And that's why we would buy an office building. Because you've got 2 great tenants, great credit tenants and 15-year leases on a beautiful building at an 8 cap. That's that -- I would buy in office buildings like that all day long. I mean office may be out of favor right now, but there's still great office buildings out there. And it doesn't hurt the portfolio to have 2 great credit tenants performing on leases for 15 years. In an island where there's very little new office space, so there's nowhere for them to move. That's the type of stuff we look for.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#26

I have a bunch of more questions, but if anybody has any questions in the audience, don't hesitate. Sir?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#27

Can you state your cost of capital right now?

James Nelson

executive
#28

Right now?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#29

[indiscernible]

James Nelson

executive
#30

Okay. Go ahead, Chris.

Christopher Masterson

executive
#31

Sure. So obviously, right now, the equity, the cost of capital is high given where the stock price is trading. But I think what I'd like to probably focus on is the debt portion. So right now, the weighted average interest rate is about 3.4%. We typically, when we acquire properties, we'll draw from our credit facility, where right now, the rate is roughly about 3%. So we really do have, I would say, a pretty low cost of capital on the debt side, which is nice. And I think that really helps us, at least for the foreseeable future, terms of acquiring properties and helping to sort of minimize the cost.

James Nelson

executive
#32

One of the things that I've seen historically, cap rates follow interest rates rising by about 6 months. I'm seeing that happen a little more now. So as the spreads widen, it will be easier to do acquisitions even with a higher cost of cost of capital. And we do have dry powder. We do have capital that we can deploy. We have a few dispositions we're going to do over the next year or 2, which will give us additional fresh capital to reinvest into new properties. So we're in a pretty good position right now. But again, it is a changing rate environment, and that certainly makes it a little more difficult. But then when cap rates rise, it again becomes the basis of a spread. And if the spread is good enough, then it becomes worthwhile.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#33

I think you've announced that you have like $56 million of assets for disposition. Can you give us a little color on what and why?

Christopher Masterson

executive
#34

Sure. So there's 1 property that we're in the process of trying to sell to roughly about $50 million. This is actually a property that the lease expired. The tenant been vacated. So it's currently vacant. And that's part of the reason that the occupancy dropped from a little above 99% to a little below 99%. And so we thought the best option once we knew the tenant was not going to extend the lease was to sell the property because there were some very attractive bids, and we think this is a great opportunity for us to sell the property and then recycle the capital back in the business.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#35

Any other questions? Kind of getting back to acquisitions for just a moment. With the announcement, the Amazon kind of pulling back a bit a month or so ago, has that changed the dynamic at all with respect to your thoughts on industrial cap rates that you're seeing? Was there any kind of immediate shift there? Or do you think that's a little bit more drawn out?

James Nelson

executive
#36

I think it's going to happen, but I think it's going to be a little more drawn out. And I don't think it's endemic with everyone. I'm on the Chewy board, Chewy, the pet food -- online pet food company. And Chewy, they're not cutting back, they were up, I think, 12% year-over-year this last quarter. They don't have the problem with Amazon. I think Amazon overbuilt, and they're pulling back a bit. But it's not really everyone and the American consumer is still in pretty good shape, even though inflation is high and everything like that. So I think all it's really going to do is if other people have problems, it will open up opportunities for us.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#37

And maybe for Chris, you guys were pretty astute users of your ATM over the past few years. Saw it firsthand with [indiscernible] did a great job. When you think about the liquidity that you have now, coupled with where the shares are trading. What type of dry powder do you think you have for the next -- if you don't hit the equity market to make acquisitions?

Christopher Masterson

executive
#38

Sure. So at the end of the first quarter, we had $225 million liquidity between cash and availability on our credit facility. As we also mentioned, we're looking to sell that property for roughly about $50 million. So we think at least for the short term that we have enough liquidity for the acquisitions that we're planning. I would say, looking longer term, Brian, as you mentioned, with the ATM, given how efficient and effective that's been. We do have the ability to quickly turn it on and off. If we do get to certain points where we feel like equity is at a level that we would want to sell. And we also have complete control over the pricing. We set the floor. So if there will be a case where if we do turn on the ATM, we have complete control and we're not going to be selling at a price that's below what we're comfortable with.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#39

And you touched upon a minute ago the disposition of that one particular asset. I think your occupancy recently -- it's always been exceedingly high, 99.7%. A year ago, it was 98.7%. Now, partially explained by that. I mean where does occupancy settle in for you? Are there any known vacates that we should be thinking about over the next kind of 12 to 18 months?

James Nelson

executive
#40

I'm very, very comfortable with where we're at. We have very few leases expiring. What is it, 2%?

Christopher Masterson

executive
#41

It's only 2% are expiring this year.

James Nelson

executive
#42

This year. Next year, it's?

Christopher Masterson

executive
#43

5%.

James Nelson

executive
#44

So we don't have a lot of leases expiring. We're being very proactive extending leases and we signed a number of leases in the last couple of years, extending. So we're being very proactive with that. We're talking to all of our GSA tenants right now because they take a lot longer to -- it's a lot longer process with GSA to extend. But usually stay. And we're very comfortable. I was telling one of our meetings this morning, we own the Deutsche Bank headquarter building in Luxembourg, which is a beautiful building designed by an opera house designer. It's about a 10- or 12-story building with an open core in the center and the acoustics are so good, they hold concerts there. So Deutsche Bank -- I met with the COO there last -- 2 years ago. And he said, "Well, Deutsche Bank is shrinking. We're thinking about moving." I said, "Great, because PWC is next door. They want the building if you move out." He said, "But there is nowhere for us to move. There's 2% vacancy in Luxembourg." So there's nowhere for them to move. So they're extending their lease another 3 years. I mean we have some -- I mean, I really like the quality of our properties. Chris and I walked into a very good situation where we didn't have a lot of problems to deal with, and it's really worked out well for us. And we've managed to almost double the size of the company in the last 5 years. Our daily trading volumes have almost tripled, so there's a lot more liquidity. We went from 1 analyst, we now have 6 analysts and there's more coming. So the outlook on the company has changed a lot. S&P gave us an investment-grade credit rating on our bond offering in December of...

Christopher Masterson

executive
#45

2020

James Nelson

executive
#46

2020, which was great. And what they said to us is they really felt the quality of portfolio warranted an investment-grade credit rating. So we're very pleased with the position the company is in right now. If this year, we're being a little more cautious in deploying capital, I think it's prudent, considering inflation and all the other variables out there. But we're very pleased with the position the company is in right now. And looking ahead, we're very comfortable with the future of this company.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#47

So before we touch upon the dividend, is there any more questions out in the audience? Anybody wants to hear about the dividend. Okay. So you have $1.60 dividend. This is a 10.9% yield late last week when I was last looking on it, both covered by AFFO per share and by FAD. What are your thoughts -- and it improves meaningfully in 2023 and 2024. What's your thoughts on the Board? Why is the yield so high? Are people simply not believing it?

James Nelson

executive
#48

Well, the yield is high because the stock price has come down. If the stock price gets back up into the 20s, the yield would be a much more reasonable number. So we comfortably covered the dividend. The Board has, as far as I know, no intention of lowering the dividend because we cover it comfortably. It's a matter of the -- more of the share price than it is the percent of the dividend. And I think we've been unreasonably hammered by the market, but most of our peers have now followed us down. And I've been doing this a long time, and I've been through ups and downs in markets since the '70s, and the market will come back and the share price will come back. And we have a long-term view on the outlook. So we're comfortable with where the dividend is. And the most important thing is we do cover it. The dividend is comfortably covered. So there's really no fear there, especially with 99% occupancy and 100% of rent collection.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#49

So last for me. And then if you have any questions, feel free to jump in. You have assets in Europe, mostly Western Europe, I think you have something in Finland anything that's going on with the Russia-Ukraine situation impacting any of your business over a year?

James Nelson

executive
#50

Fortunately, we have not had any impact. I can't say the same. I'm also the Chairman of the Board of Xerox, and Xerox, I think 10% or 15% of their stuff is made in the Ukraine or parts they get from the Ukraine. So it's very complicated, but we're very fortunate our companies are in Western Europe. Their energy prices are going to go up because of what's going on. But they're good solid companies with good credit ratings. And they -- when we look to buy a company and we do have a committee that oversees the credit of our tenants, and we have nobody on the watch list right now. But when we look at a company, we look back and see how they did in '08, '09 during the financial crisis, how they did during COVID because it can really tell how solid a company is how they perform in really trying times. And we're very, very pleased with the quality of our tenants and how they're performing. So I haven't seen an effect in Western Europe. Everybody said, how is Brexit going to affect our U.K. companies. We've seen no negative impact on our company -- on the properties we own in the U.K. So I think they will survive and it's a tough thing for the world right now because of what's going on. I think inflation is really fueled a lot by the energy problems. But fortunately, our tenants are in pretty good, pretty good condition.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#51

Any questions out there? Sir?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#52

[indiscernible]

James Nelson

executive
#53

We've been looking into that. I'm having the numbers run right now as to how it affect. And we'll see -- I don't have an answer for you today, but it is something that we're looking very carefully at right now. Thank you for bringing that up. It's a great question.

Bryan Maher

analyst
#54

Anyone else? All right. Great. Thank you very much, Jim. Thanks, Chris.

James Nelson

executive
#55

Thank you, everybody. I hope I didn't -- thank you.

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