Gooch & Housego PLC (GHH) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 14, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorThank you for joining the Gooch & Housego PLC Presentation to discuss the U.S. acquisition of Global Photonics announced this morning. I'll shortly hand over to Charlie Peppiatt, CEO; and Chris Jewell, CFO. But just a quick note on housekeeping to ask that you keep all questions to the end of the run. [Operator Instructions] With that, I'll pass over to Charlie and Chris.
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveAbi, thank you very much. Good afternoon, good morning to everyone, depending on where you're joining from. Thank you for attending this call to provide an update on the acquisition of Global Photonics that we're announcing today, extending our presence in the U.S. A&D market. You can move forward. As a sort of an outline of the agenda for the call, what we'd like to do is just give a little bit more detail around the acquisition, talk to you about the strategic rationale, and then particularly focus on what this does for G&H in North America. And then Chris will talk a little bit more about some of the transaction details. So again, I'm really pleased to be able to share this news today. The acquisition of Global Photonics is for $17.5 million, is absolutely aligned to our strategy. The business has been acquired from the Rausnitz family, and it has a strong regard for the activities. The Rausnitz family previously in 2023, sold their European Precision Optics business, Meopta-optika to Carlyle. And at that time, the Global Photonics was under the name of Meopta U.S. was separate from that transaction. In 2024, the name was changed to Global Photonics. But Meopta U.S., the business that we're acquiring was established over 20 years ago. It was founded up in Long Island in New York. And then in 2017, the business was relocated to the new facility just outside Tampa in Florida that you see in the image on the slide and is where the business is located today that we're acquiring. The revenue of Global Photonics is $11.1 million in the calendar year 2024, aligned to similar sorts of output over the previous few years, delivering an EBITDA of $1.8 million. This is a proven optical systems designer and manufacturer, offering complex optics going into military land systems, aerospace optics and tactical soldier systems, particularly focused on night vision goggles, rifle scopes, et cetera. There are 38 employees in the business with a strong pedigree and experience in delivering a full value solution for those complex optical systems as described earlier. We're also pleased about where this facility is located Florida and particularly the Tampa area is recognized as a sort of optics and photonics cluster with many other optics customers -- companies and potential customers in the area as well as a number of strong universities and colleges that specialize in optics, allowing us what we see aligned to the growth plans for this business, a strong talent pipeline, which over recent years has proved such a critical part of the execution of our strategy. The facilities are well invested. So as well as having advanced capabilities to process precision optics and assemble complex optical systems, the site also has equipment to provide advanced lithography processes that are used, for example, in reticles, and also along with this acquisition, we have a well-established and very importantly, coating capacity. So there's multiple thin-film coating chambers that come with the acquisition as well. Global Photonics has a long-standing relationship as outlined here with many U.S. A&D customers. And again, I think it's important to note that it's been supplying a number of the top U.S. primes -- prime contractors into the defense market for more than 10 years. It also holds all of the appropriate approvals with the major arms of the U.S. government's procurement for defense and logistics being approved by TACOM and the DLA. Moving on to the next slide, just to talk a little bit about some of the rationale of this acquisition. Again, some of you will be very aware and remember the revised strategy for the group that Chris and I outlined in June 2023. I believe that this acquisition associated to what we need and want to do in North America is absolutely online with our strategy as a speed to value deal for the group. That's both aligned to bringing in businesses that can help us accelerate our journey to delivering mid-teen returns as has been outlined in our strategy and also aligned and following on from the acquisitions of Artemis and Phoenix and the divestment of EM4 up in Boston, effectively the overhaul and the turnaround of the group's Aerospace and Defense business, which is where not only aerospace and defense, but primarily Global Photonics will play certainly for the next few years. What are some of the other key elements of the deal? So one of the major lines of revenue and activity that Global Photonics brings to G&H is what's called the ICWS periscope for the [ Abrams ] M1A2 main battle tank. This is the improved commanders weapon system station that you see pictured in the top right-hand corner of the slide. And again, this advanced capability provides effectively an octagonal turret at the top of the [ Abrams ] M1A2, where there are 8 periscopes, providing sophisticated 360-degree field of view with all of the other advanced and complex fire control system optics that are associated with that. So it's an absolute marquee product line to be able to be bringing into G&H and to supporting our defense journey. We also see this site becoming our U.S. laser protection coating center of excellence. With the acquisition of Artemis, we brought into the group capabilities that massively enhanced our laser protection of optics through thin film coating with some unique and very differentiated recipes on how to provide that advanced laser protection capability. We have the ability now with this acquisition and the equipment and the plant that's supplied to do this and the approvals to be able to offer that capability manufactured in America from an advanced and approved facility. We also see the opportunity for revenue synergies through combined commercial pipeline. It would be fair to say that one area that Global Photonics had not invested in significantly was their sort of sales and business development organization. And we believe that aligning that to the existing G&H North American sales organization and also making appropriate investments, there's a really exciting opportunity to combine all of the Tier 1 U.S. prime contractors that we supply and those that Global Photonics supply to bring them a full optical systems integrated value proposition. The facilities are -- the site is more than 50,000 square feet. And to date, the existing activity that goes on there is using about half of the footprint. So there's both physically from footprint and also capacity of equipment as well as location, a really exciting opportunity for us to scale our U.S. manufacturing of other solutions through this facility. We see an opportunity for some cost synergies here. Global Photonics has a well-organized and well-arranged supply chain. So at the same time, there are some procurement opportunities both to use that supply chain continuing in North America for our existing business, but also for our European business as well. And again, some great opportunity to optimize the collaboration of technologies. As I mentioned earlier, the team of 38 employees comes with some really strong capability and know-how that we believe aligns to the existing capability and know-how within G&H provides a really exciting unique combination. On the next slide, we just wanted to try and pull out and focus in particularly against the current backdrop on what does this mean for our U.S. footprint? What does this mean for our capabilities to manufacture and offer value to our customers in North America. Again, with this acquisition, as is outlined here, we have 6 facilities in North America now. I've tried to pull out here, firstly, how those are focused. We have the 2 facilities in Fremont, California and Cleveland, Ohio that are focused on our Photonics businesses, very much aligned to the industrial market. As you'll be aware, we made the acquisition of GS Optic in Rochester, New York and have further invested in that facility to establish a medical device innovation hub and manufacturing and design center of excellence for life sciences with all of the appropriate FDA and ISO 13485 approvals that are required. And this acquisition in Tampa really knits together and pulls together the opportunity to replicate the success we've had in the U.K. of creating an optical systems hub for our customers in Europe in North America. So combining the advanced precision super polish capabilities we have in Moorpark over in California and the design and manufacturing capability of intricate advanced imaging systems up in Keene, New Hampshire, pulling that together with a facility that offers a full suite of optical systems and coatings capability in Tampa in Florida with the ability to expand that capability. So again, mirroring the success of the strategy to establish a U.S. life Sciences Center of Excellence in Rochester, we believe that this now places us in a very strong footing to address in the areas where we have unique differentiation, a full suite of capabilities to our U.S. optical systems customers, both existing and new ones that we hope to convert. If I pass over to Chris.
Chris Jewell
executiveThanks, Charlie. So as Charlie mentioned, the total consideration for the acquisition is $17.5 million. 50% of that is going to be in the form of cash on closing, which will be funded from our existing debt facility and the other 50% will be in the form of newly issued G&H shares. I should say, we've -- we expect to complete the transaction towards the end of this current month. I come back to that in a minute. The sellers have agreed to enter into a 12-month lock-in on the new G&H shares that they will receive. We expect the acquisition in our current financial year, financial year '25 to be marginally earnings enhancing, and then obviously increasing the earnings enhancing thereafter. Charlie mentioned already that the business is hasn't invested heavily in its sales and business development activity. That's something we absolutely intend to do to support the businesses further growth and get after some of the commercial synergies. We also intend to do some limited upgrades to their thin film coating chambers that you see in the picture on the right-hand side here. The purpose of that is to increase capacity and be able to take some of the respisant formulas that we have in our Artemis business and replicate those in this new facility. As I just mentioned, the transaction is expected to close around the end of May. The only conditions to closing are to receive customer consent to the assignment and change of control. Those provisions are laid out in their existing contracts with Global Photonics. There are no other regulatory clearances required. We just need to get those consents in place, and then we'll be ready to complete the transaction as we expect at the end of May. Okay. Thank you. I think now we're going to hand over to you for any questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] So I'll take the first question from Robin Byde.
Robin Byde
analystCongratulations. This looks a good one. Could you talk a little bit about Global Photonics pipeline, perhaps in broad terms, the value over how many years and what it consists of, if possible?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveYes. Certainly, Robin, thank you for that question. I think, first of all, the nature of a number of the contracts that Global Photonics is working on are multiyear in nature. So there is what we would describe as a strong pipeline to support the business going forward and performing at or slightly above the levels that it has delivered in its recent past. What we are most excited about, though, is the opportunity to take that capability with our existing capability and present that and sell that to our customers. So we would hope to see that pipeline further grow and expand. We also believe, and that's something that when we're presenting at the beginning of June at our half year results, we'll be in a position to give more updates on. But once we've had the chance to go and sit in front of and speak to Global Photonics' customers between now and then, I think we'll get a much clearer picture of their reaction to this deal and also the opportunity to offer our capability in a much more credible manner in North America. Many of our customers have come to us and said, we would like you to do what you're doing in Europe in North America. This deal provides us the opportunity to do that.
Operator
operatorNext question from Thomas Elgar.
Thomas Elgar
analystFrom my side, just trying to really dig into kind of the extent of that cross-sell opportunity that you guys alluded to. Is this more that you could of bring this into Europe where demand is particularly robust in land vehicles? Or is this more sort of technology sharing and you'll be able to actively bid -- bid more actively in the future regarding in the U.S.? Just trying to get an idea of where the focus is on that growth. Or is this really kind of U.S. for U.S., Europe for Europe, and this gives you a better stronghold in the U.S. for those opportunities you see there?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveTommy, I think yes is the answer to what you've said. And again, we'll provide more update in June once we've had the chance to go and sit face-to-face with those key customers. I think, obviously, one of the areas that we are very aware of and has been built into the rationale and the planning of this deal, which has only been accelerated by some of the recent decisions and current decisions that are being made by the U.S. administration is the desire to have a number of these critical capabilities supported by and made in North America for the DoD. And obviously, I mentioned the DLA and TACOM. They continually have asked us previously, we love your capability, but we need this made in the U.S., for example, on the laser protection would be a great example of that. So we need to now do the work to understand and verify those opportunities that we believe are there.
Operator
operatorNext question from Scott Cagehin.
Scott Cagehin
analystJust a couple of quick questions from me. How many customers do you need to talk to as part of this process? And are you preapproved with all of them anyway like previous deal? That's the first question, please.
Chris Jewell
executiveScott, it's 3 customers. And certainly with, I think, all 3 of those customers, they absolutely know G&H. They're already a customer of ours on other programs. And I think with their major customer as well, we're already preapproved with them as a supplier. So we don't anticipate any problems at all.
Scott Cagehin
analystAnd second one being on the footprint side, if you look at the optic docs, is there room for those to be consolidated? Or do you need to still have that sort of footprint across the U.S.? I'm trying to work out the operational synergies other than what you stated.
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveI think that's something that we are going to review. I think what we can say is that our business -- Stingray business, G&H Stingray up in Keene, New Hampshire has some really great design and innovation and development capabilities. Many of the U.S. primes that we supply those designs to have been challenging us that, that facility is really not set up for volume -- high-volume mass production. So one of the challenges that we were looking at was to meet those requirements going forward, we were either going to need to expand the New Hampshire facility or find another appropriate location to meet that demand. So that's an immediate area that is addressing and supporting because there's obviously space and the appropriate approvals and know-how in Tampa to be able to manufacture the products that are designed in Keene, New Hampshire. I think if you take the analogy of mirroring the U.K., we obviously have our 3 points in North Wales, in Ilminster and in Plymouth, where a lot of the designs are being done in North Wales for manufacture in Ilminster. So we would see a similar type of model of designs being done in New Hampshire for volume manufacturing in Tampa, Scott.
Scott Cagehin
analystGot it. And sort of follow-on to that then. So the Tampa facility, how much extra could go through that facility if you've got more contracts? Or a few -- is there room to do double what they're producing now or...?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveThe facility could do 3 to 5x more depending on the product mix.
Operator
operatorNext question from Dan [ Fond ].
Unknown Analyst
analystJust a bit of color on the structure of the deal, where the pressure came from for it to be half shares, whether it was driven by you and therefore, providing you with more firepower for potentially more deals or whether they were very keen to have your equity? And just some comment, therefore, on your, I guess, thoughts on dilution for the rest of us at this point in time at such a low share price.
Chris Jewell
executiveSo the sellers were very keen to take G&H equity at this stage. I think they recognize the potential in taking G&H shares. And from our perspective, it worked fairly well as well. So from the very initial discussions with sellers, a fairly heavy equity element was always felt of their considerations. In fact, I think they would have taken more if we'd have allowed them to.
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveI mean I think to add to what Chris has said, I think there's that the Rausnitz family are -- have spent their entire life in optics, photonics and precision optics. So they understand this industry very well.
Operator
operatorAnd next question from Dominic King.
Dominic King
analystThere we go. Sorry, just a very brief question. Does this now give you the full suite in terms of photonics over in the States now? Is that really the major piece now that you needed? I mean obviously, [ Abrams ] is very interesting in terms of sort of volumes on that. But is there anything else significant missing there?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveWe are very pleased with for our optical systems business, what this now -- the capability this now provides for us. And to meet all of the precision optic, optical system design, develop and manufacture plus most importantly, the ability to scale our unique thin-film coating for laser protection, it puts us in a strong position in North America.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Yes, Thomas, another one from you.
Thomas Elgar
analystYes. So I'll just come back on a question. So you mentioned kind of the last couple of years kind of steady revenues for this business, but with obviously great opportunity to grow well given the pipeline. Is there any sort of commentary you can give on perhaps the margin evolution over the last couple of years, and just how that has tracked and maybe what the full expectations in time could be for this business?
Chris Jewell
executiveThey've always been a nicely profitable business, Tom. I mean I think as Charlie has mentioned, there's a lot of capacity in the facility. And I think with a bit of investment in the sales and BD, we can get more revenue through. And so that add additional revenue should drop to the bottom line quite nicely because as I say, we don't need to invest more space or equipment. It will just be a bit extra production labor really.
Operator
operatorI've got a question as well from Ben Borne.
Unknown Analyst
analystCongrats. It looks like a great transaction, great new site and capability. Just a few questions. Charlie, please. Can you remind us what the current build rate of the Abrams tank is?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveYes. The Abrams tank is directionally at about 200-plus units per year. That there's a combined sort of U.S. sales and then there's the foreign sale element of that goes up and down. There's obviously that's something that's in ascent at the moment. And then there is, on top of that, some spares and repairs effectively a piece of that business.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd does your ASP change in that mix?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveYes, there are some differences across that mix. Yes.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd how many of the existing fleets still require upgrades, optical upgrades, the M180s, I think [ it's 4, isn't or 3 ]?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveAt the moment, the upgrade of the optic system is not something that's being -- that's still in discussion with regard to what actually is the laser protection requirement for that. Obviously, the G&H and Global Photonics are fully approved to provide all of those solutions to General Dynamics who manufacture this for the U.S. government.
Unknown Analyst
analystUnderstood. And my understanding is it's 100% land vehicle exposure at the moment. Is that right?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveNo. The business does do some aerospace and defense and avionics optics, but that would be currently circa 10%, 15% of activity. That is, again, not an insignificant opportunity for us to expand.
Unknown Analyst
analystWell, and that was my final question really. Yes. And across the group, really, Charlie, while we've got you, what opportunities are you seeing now in sort of uncrewed air systems and missile seekers, please?
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveI think the opportunities are significant, both in Europe and in North America, Ben.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] It doesn't seem so. So Charlie and Chris, I'll hand back to you just for a quick closing remarks.
Charles St. John Peppiatt
executiveI mean just to close, again, thank you for everyone's time joining this meeting at short notice. We're pleased to have been able to share this news with you, and Chris and I will provide further updates in due course. And obviously, we're back again at the beginning of June to talk about our half year results. Thank you very much.
Chris Jewell
executiveYes. Thanks, everybody.
Unknown Analyst
analystThank you.
Unknown Analyst
analystThank you.
Operator
operatorThanks very much.
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