GPT Infraprojects Limited (GPTINFRA.NS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 7, 2025
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Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the GPT Infraprojects Limited Q2 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Atul Tantia, Joint Managing Director and CFO of GPT Infraprojects Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Atul Tantia
executiveThank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and a warm welcome to the GPT Infraprojects Limited Conference Call for the second quarter ended September 30, 2025. I hope you all had the opportunity to review the financials as well as presentation released yesterday. I'll briefly cover the key highlights for the quarter. Before we begin, I would like to take a moment to honor the memory of my father and beloved Chairman, Shri Dwarika Prasad ji Tantia, who left for his heavenly abode on August 17, 2025. He was our North Star, a true karmyogi, whose life was a testament to purpose and perseverance. He showed us that greatness lies in humility and that integrity is the finest legacy. A true leader who lived each day with strong sense of family values and his legacy in business and community services profound. Through his vision and actions, he left our world richer, wiser and better than he found it. We thank everyone who reached out to us in this time of grief. We pray that his noble soul finds eternal peace at the Lotus feet of Lord Narayan. Now moving ahead to our financial performance for the second quarter and half year ended September 30, 2025. On a half yearly basis, revenue grew by 12%, both on stand-alone and consolidated basis with revenue from operations at INR 579 crores on a stand-alone level and compared to INR 517 crores last year. And on a consolidated basis, revenue stood at INR 591 crores compared to INR 529 crores last year. In both the stand-alone and consolidated numbers, we have set the target of 20% growth in this fiscal year. This growth will be majorly driven by significant execution in the Infrastructure segment, which accounts for nearly 90% of our revenues. Our stand-alone EBITDA for the quarter stood at INR 42 crores compared to INR 40 crores representing a growth of 4.5% Y-o-Y. And EBITDA for the half year was INR 84 crores compared to INR 74 crores last year, that is a growth of 12.5%. In terms of consolidated EBITDA, the same came in at INR 43 crores for the quarter ended September 30, 2025, compared to INR 33 crores last year, representing a growth of 28%. EBITDA for the half year stood at INR 89 crores compared to INR 67 crores on a consolidated level last year, representing a growth of 33%. We are confident of maintaining a long-term EBITDA margin of 13%, which we have guided historically as well. With the improvement in revenue, the operational efficiencies have helped us in ensuring the long-term EBITDA, and we expect the same to be maintained going forward. There has been an increase in the profit after taxes with consolidated PAT for H1 FY '26 at INR 45 crores, growing by 32% from INR 34 crores in H1 FY '25. Stand-alone PAT for Q2 FY '26 was INR 44 crores, increasing by 12% compared to INR 39 crores last year. Now in terms of our segmental performance. Our Infrastructure segment reported revenue of INR 543 crores for the half year ended September 30, 2025. This segment continues to be the backbone of our business, contributing almost 94% of our total revenues. The key contracts for the Infrastructure segment continue to perform well with contracts like NHAI, Ganga Bridge, Prayagraj, Mathura, Jhansi, Majerhat, Byculla driving a major part of our revenues. The segment has an order backlog of INR 3,153 crores. The Sleeper segment generated revenues of INR 43.8 crores in H1 FY '26 compared to majorly driven by the outstanding performance in domestic business and also some contribution from the South African subsidiary. As we move ahead, we are confident in our ability to capitalize on this positive momentum generated by these factors. Our focus on maintaining a robust and healthy order book, coupled with continuous efforts to optimize our financial structure lays the foundation for our growth trajectory. As on September 30, 2025, we have an unexecuted order book of INR 3,591 crores, representing 3x our FY '25 revenues, providing strong visibility. The order inflow during the year was INR 696 crores. We are targeting INR 2,000 crores for the year. In this year, we have bagged an order of INR 195 crores from TIPSP, which is a concessionaire for the San Pedro port in Ivory Coast. This is for testing and commissioning -- installation Testing and Commissioning of a Conveyor Belt System for the port in Ivory Coast. Thank you, and we look forward to addressing any questions or concerns you might have regarding our financial performance and future prospects. I will now request the moderator to open the floor for any question and answers. Thank you.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Rehan Saiyyed from Trinetra Asset Managers.
Rehan Saiyyed
analystSo I have a couple of questions. First on the revenue side. So the consolidated revenue saw a sequential decline this quarter despite a strong order book. So could you help me understand what led to this softer quarterly performance? Was it size related [indiscernible] or how is it kind of a problem on clients at clearance? This is my first question.
Atul Tantia
executiveYes. So the softer execution this quarter was mostly on account of monsoon, as you might be aware. And this time, the monsoon has slightly delayed, and there was almost 20% increase in rainfall for the country as a whole and specifically in the areas that we normally operate, whether it is Mumbai, whether it is West Bengal and UP as such. So that is the main reason why the -- there was a slight dip in the revenue performance for this quarter. However, having said that, we are quite confident that post the monsoon, the operations are doing quite well, and we should be able to make that up in the next 6 months.
Rehan Saiyyed
analystOkay. And my second question is around your order book. The order book now stands at INR 3,500-plus crores, nearly 3x of FY '25 revenue. So how much of this is executable over the next 12 to 18 months? And how should we think about the execution run rate going ahead?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo like I said in the opening remarks, we expect the execution run rate to be 20% growth every year. This order book represents -- is to be executed over 2.5 odd years of INR 3,600 crores. So that should be executed in the next 2.5 years.
Rehan Saiyyed
analystAnd last one bookkeeping question from your side. Like so our ROE and ROCE have moderated in FY '26 versus FY '25. So how do you plan...
Atul Tantia
executiveSorry, voice is breaking up.
Rehan Saiyyed
analystAm I clear now?
Atul Tantia
executiveSlightly better...
Rehan Saiyyed
analystYes. So my last question is on the ROE and ROCE side. So now our ROE and ROCE have moderated in H1 FY '26 versus FY '25. So how do you plan to improve return ratios? And what internal threshold plan is targeting for selection going forward?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo ROE and ROCE have not moderated because it is not an annualized number that has been given. So if you annualize it, it will become -- it is 25% odd in terms of ROCE and 20% -- close to 18% to 19% in terms of ROE. That it's not an annualized number.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Guru Darshan from Kitara Capital.
Guru Darshan D
analystAm I audible?
Operator
operatorYes sir, please go ahead with your question.
Guru Darshan D
analystI just have one question sir. What is driving including EBITDA margin and the consolidated...
Atul Tantia
executiveSorry, I can't hear anything. Sorry, I can't hear anything you said.
Guru Darshan D
analystCan you hear me now?
Atul Tantia
executiveYes, much better.
Guru Darshan D
analystYes. I just want to understand what is driving EBITDA margin increase in Q2 FY '26. So almost 11% to 15% in the current quarter. Is it mainly related to contract? I just want to understand the drivers.
Atul Tantia
executiveIt's not 11% -- 11% to 15%, it's mostly on the consol level you're saying. So that's mostly on account of last quarter, there was some foreign exchange loss in some of the foreign exchange subsidiaries in terms of mark-to-market loss. That is no longer there. And also stronger execution for the domestic sleeper business also helps the EBITDA margin improvement. Having said that, we expect long-term EBITDA to be between 13% to 14%. That's what we have historically guided, and that's where we should land at.
Guru Darshan D
analystYes. I mean at least for the current financial year, it should be somewhere around 15% EBITDA margin. Because the half year also, we have done around 14.7%.
Atul Tantia
executiveYes. So we will see an annual EBITDA between 13% to 14% going forward as well.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Diya Jain from Sapphire Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystHope, I am audible?
Atul Tantia
executiveYes. Yes. Please go ahead.
Unknown Analyst
analystYou're targeting a 15% growth for FY '26. Am I right?
Atul Tantia
executive20%.
Unknown Analyst
analyst13%?
Atul Tantia
executive20%.
Unknown Analyst
analystAll right. And what do you think for FY '27 and FY '28?
Atul Tantia
executiveI think this is the order book, the next 3 years, we should be at a 20% odd growth. So plus/minus a couple of basis points. But I think that 20% is something that is quite achievable over the next 3 years.
Unknown Analyst
analystAll right, sir. And any investment plans as of now?
Atul Tantia
executiveIn investments in terms of CapEx, we do CapEx for the contracts. We are looking at -- we have recently also set up steel fabrication workshop with a capacity of 10,000 metric tonnes with an outlay of almost INR 20 crores, INR 25 crores. And we are also looking at some other aspects of railway works, which once it materializes, we'll come back to the market and announce the same.
Unknown Analyst
analystAll right, sir. And you mentioned that in your order book execution time line will be 2.5 years?
Atul Tantia
executiveCorrect.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Parth Kotak from Plus91 Asset Management.
Parth Kotak
analystSir, just one bookkeeping question. Depreciation has gone up by about 50% half year over half year, while the asset is not reflecting the same. What would be the reason for the same?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo there have been some recent additions in the -- how would you call... It's not increased by [indiscernible]. It's almost 32% from INR 3.7 crores to INR 4.9 crores or even on a consolidated basis also from INR 4.2 crores to INR 5.4 crores. I don't know where the number of 50%.
Parth Kotak
analystYes. So the H1 number has gone up from INR 8.13 crores...
Atul Tantia
executiveYes. So last H1 -- last quarter, it went up because, like I said, because of the steel fabrication workshop that we had commissioned. So that was a significant number. So it has gone up because of that. But other than that, there's no other significant change in the number.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Darshil Pandya from Finterest Capital.
Darshil Pandya
analystAm I audible?
Atul Tantia
executiveYes, you are audible. Please go ahead.
Darshil Pandya
analystMy first question is with regards to the short-term borrowings that are almost in a 50%, 60% jump from the March numbers. What has led to this? And how things will be in the next half or next year?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo short-term borrowings have temporarily gone up. Like I said, because of the monsoon, there was some delay in the, what you call, execution and some of the invoicing as well to the customers, slightly increase in the working capital days. This, we expect to again normalize back to the March '25 number by the end of the year. So started we're seeing a dip as on date as well. And by March 6, we should see that number back to the March '25 number as well.
Darshil Pandya
analystUnderstood. Because our main objective was to reduce the interest cost. That was the reason we also did...
Atul Tantia
executiveSo we have reduced the interest cost. It has been partially utilized because of the heavy monsoon in this period, but that is a flexibility that the management maintains in order to do faster execution as well.
Darshil Pandya
analystUnderstood. Second question would be on the execution front, sir. Since we are guiding for this 20% growth, our H2 needs to be quite heavy compared to H1. So how are we prepared for this? I mean, how will we achieve the targets that we are doing? Because quarterly basis, we have to touch around INR 380 crores, INR 400 crores of run rate. So how are we getting ready for this?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo H1 is typically companies of our industry is typically 40% and 60%. So if you see -- if you assume that this number is 40%, then we would be doing the 40% growth this year on this basis itself.
Darshil Pandya
analystUnderstood. Fine. And one final question would be on the numbers front, sir. Sir, since we have a very good order book and we are now bidding for bigger projects also, and we have quite done well over the last 1, 2 years since we have been tracking you. So just to understand what stops us to go aggressive on this number front? Can we go for 25%, 30% or even higher number base compared to other infra companies? Because there are some companies also who are guiding for this. But I just wanted to -- I just wanted your view to understand how things are with us. What stops us to go aggressive on this?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo it's a good question. We are quite -- we call -- I would not say conservative, but we are quite mindful of our margins. We have had a hurdle rate of EBITDA of 13%. We bid for contracts at that number. In case the contracts don't meet our hurdle rate, we are happy to let them go because we are of the view that in the long term, we should be very mindful of the margin front. People can get very shortsighted and take contracts which may not be that remunerative in the short term. As a management, we feel that is not the right call. So that is why we are quite choosy in getting the contracts that we do get. And honestly, I feel that 20% is quite a healthy number to grow at. In case we end up growing at 25%, 30%, it becomes too aggressive and then some errors can happen in terms of the pricing that we do submit for certain bids.
Darshil Pandya
analystUnderstood. And any plans for going into higher-margin businesses, maybe some projects where margins are pretty decent 18%, 20%, so the overall number goes up. Do we have any plans or we are doing -- we are planning something in that segment also?
Atul Tantia
executiveCorrect. So we are doing that. That is one of the reasons why we have taken this contract in Ivory Coast as well, which has a slightly better margin. And we are also looking at other -- like I had also mentioned in my opening remarks, we are also looking at other railway track items and other fittings for railways as well, which will improve the margin on an overall basis as well.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Shivam Revankar who is an investor.
Unknown Attendee
attendee[Technical Difficulty]
Atul Tantia
executiveSorry, you are fading off.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeFirst, condolences to your family for loss of our Chairman, Atul. And my question is now this project that we have won in Ivory Coast, I mean, I'm aware that Namibia, South Africa, Ghana, these are the places that you had your presence already. So how do we plan to execute a project in a country where I'm assuming there was no presence?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo Ivory Coast is a country which is neighboring to Ghana. We already have a presence, like you mentioned, in Ghana. We have a full team there. And that will -- they will be able to manage their entire affairs. It will also help us save on some of the overhead costs as well. And that is one of the reasons we have taken this contract. And hopefully, it should be quite profitable for the company.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI see. And what are the margins you're looking at for that particular project? And is it like a joint venture? Or is it...
Atul Tantia
executiveNo it's not a joint venture. It's is in our name. On the question on margin, it would be around 18% to 20%.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeYes, I see. Okay. And do you expect any initial mobilization costs because it's a new territory?
Atul Tantia
executiveNo, the contract has a provision for paying mobilization advance, which we will be utilizing.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Okay. Okay. And what was the reason primarily that picking up this project now and not earlier? Do you see a slowdown from these Indian contracting bodies like NHAI, which is the reason why you thought this was a prudent strategy pivot?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo we have been trying for this for quite some time for the last more than 6 months. And honestly, there's no intention of digressing from the domestic business or the domestic order book. Having said that, the domestic order book is having a lot of competition. So we thought that it would be a good thing -- a good blend to have in terms of some higher-margin contracts, and that's why we did that.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeAnd what's your outlook personally, Atul, in terms of projects such like within that geography? Do you see any plans for going higher and aggressive to explore more such projects? Or is it like a one-off opportunity?
Atul Tantia
executiveNo, it's not a one-off opportunity. We're looking at similar contracts as well. But -- and Africa is a continent which takes its own -- its slow pace, and you need to have patience. So you can't expect anything to happen overnight there. So -- we have -- we are in talks with a couple of other agencies as well. Let's see how that pans out.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI see. So now the guided order book is INR 2,000-odd crores, which means an incremental INR 1,400 crores something needs to come in. So what percentage of that do you expect from that geography in Africa?
Atul Tantia
executiveMaybe about INR 150 crores, 10%.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI see. Okay. And these projects that you've targeted there, you are mostly into infrastructure, you're a specialist in railway bridges. But this project is really some industrial conveyor belt manufacturing facility. Does that stem from your experience with concrete manufacturing facility? Or what is the basis of expertise and confidence that you took that kind of project?
Atul Tantia
executiveSo it's not -- we don't have to set up a facility for conveyor belt manufacturing there. We need to supply, install, testing and commissioning of that from India. Like I said, we have set up recently a steel fabrication manufacturing workshop in West Bengal. So that will kind of enable us to use that capacity, and we'll be able to supply from there as well, part of the things. And some items will be also outsourced from the market.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI see. I see. Okay. And do you also see this as a gateway to bid for bridges and roads in that geography as well?
Atul Tantia
executiveIt depends on the line of funding, but yes, we are open to that idea.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Sure. And last few months have been quite muted in terms of any order wins from RVNL, NHAI, et cetera. Do you expect any traction going forward?
Atul Tantia
executiveYes. Obviously, like I said, INR 2,000 crores is the total order book that we have guided for in this financial year, and we are quite confident of hitting that number.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. And that INR 2,000 crores means your order book is then going to be sort of in the 4x range. Will that mean...
Atul Tantia
executiveNo, it won't be in the 4x range. It will be almost 3.2x because we will also be executing close to INR 900-odd crores or INR 800-odd crores in the second half as well.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Okay. Because in terms of your balance sheet, your capacity utilization looked quite big again, but I understand those monsoon. But yes, anyway good luck Atul.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Pranav Pal from Prudent Equity.
Pranav Pal
analystAm I audible.
Atul Tantia
executiveYes, you are audible. Please go ahead.
Pranav Pal
analystSir, my first question was for this 20% growth that you're guiding, you need to do around like 30% growth in H2. So how confident are we that that's actually going to happen? Because I agreed that Q2 is a little weak, but even in the last second quarter, you are able to show growth, but this Q2 was a little underwhelming. So...
Atul Tantia
executiveSo I think like I said earlier, H1 is generally 40% of the overall year. So if you compare H1 -- if you assume that H1 is 40% for the overall year, then we are hitting a 20% number for the full year for the balance 60%. For balance 60%, we would be expected to do close to INR 375 crores, INR 380 crores in terms of execution to hit that number, and we are quite confident of doing that.
Pranav Pal
analystOkay. And my second question was what percentage of your order book would be in JVs?
Atul Tantia
executiveI don't have an answer to that offhand. We can come back to you on a one-to-one basis.
Pranav Pal
analystOkay. Okay. And lastly, what's the status of your pledge? Do you plan to reduce it going forward? Or if you could share some light on that?
Atul Tantia
executiveSure. So the pledge of 51% shares of the promoters is towards the working capital limits of the company and not for any other purpose. We have already applied to the consortium banks to reduce that and it is being evaluated by the consortium as we speak.
Pranav Pal
analystOkay. And mainly regarding the JV thing, okay?
Operator
operatorOur next follow-up question comes from the line of Diya Jain from Sapphire Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, you mentioned that you expect 18% to 20% margins from the Ivory Coast order. So is that an EBITDA margin we are targeting?
Atul Tantia
executiveYes, obviously at EBITDA level.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo can you also provide a number for the Agra Gwalior Highway project?
Atul Tantia
executiveWe don't provide on a project to project basis. We don't provide the margins on a project-to-project basis. It's something that is confidential.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay, sir. And what is your current capacity utilization?
Atul Tantia
executiveFor what, for which plant?
Unknown Analyst
analystFor all the plants.
Atul Tantia
executiveSo total capacity utilization is close to 50-odd percent.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd what would be optimal?
Atul Tantia
executive70% to 75%.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for the closing comments.
Atul Tantia
executiveThank you, everyone, for the questions, which I hope we have been suitably addressed. In case you have any further questions, do reach out to us, and have a good day. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you, sir. On behalf of GPT Infraprojects Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.
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