Grupo Traxión, S.A.B. de C.V. (TRAXIONA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 25, 2022

Bolsa Mexicana de Valores MX Industrials Ground Transportation earnings 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Traxion Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Aby Lijtszain, Executive President and Co-Founder of Traxion. Sir, the floor is yours.

Aby Lijtszain Chernizky

executive
#2

Thank you. Good morning. Welcome again. As you see, Traxion continues delivering good news despite adverse global macroeconomic conditions. Today, I want to briefly discuss three matters: nearshoring, revenues and margins. Nearshoring is a reality and will continue to penetrate in the next few years. Traxion is directly related to such trend, of around 50% of revenues come from it. Half is from final goods exported to states and the other half is from warehouse management, personal mobility and raw material transportation. Thus, we expect a consistent and progressive increase of demand from such expansion. Our commercial force is in the front line, capturing the most profitable opportunities. In order to properly benefit from nearshoring, Traxion has several attributes, a strong 4PL logistics platform, a comprehensive footprint in cross-border operations, specialized and efficient cargo solutions and the leading position in personnel mobility within industrial parks. Moving on, Traxion had a very good quarter in terms of revenue. They came ahead of our expectations. It was the first quarter, which we broke the MXN 5 billion mark in revenue and represents the highest quarterly figure of our history. Most relevant is that growth came high in the 3 divisions with logistics and technology posting the highest. It was a 29% increase, but even more important with virtually no CapEx. This is precisely how we want to continue to develop this division. Our traditional business segment also posted impressive growth rates with 27% and 18.5% in mobility of cargo and personnel, respectively. We continue to see a temporary impact in fuel, our most significant operating cost, which has increased more than 50%. However, the impact in margin has been just approximately 150 basis points and level at around 17.5%, which we think is very healthy given the circumstances. We will recover such compression in the short-term since we believe that the fuel cost pass-through will be fully implemented by year-end. For 2022, we expect our full year revenue to grow higher than we expected. However, the impact in fuel cost is going to compress our year-end margins. In consequence, we expect to reach a very similar EBITDA figure to what we released in our guidance in February. We are convinced that we have managed the situation very well. Once again, the resiliency of our business model has proven effectively. We are excited with the growth brought by nearshoring and feel sure that the company will capitalize on coming opportunities as it has always done efficiently and profitably. With this, I end my remarks. Please, Rodolfo, go ahead.

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#3

Thank you, Aby, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. Our commercial strategy continues to bear fruit, and there is a sizable level of demand of our 3 segments. That has resulted in a healthy double-digit growth at the top line. Right now, the most interesting growth opportunities we observe for the short and midterms come from the nearshoring trend, which has already driven a portion of our revenues. We have been started in several new operations with clients, mainly in the northern region of the country, whose business is directly related to such nearshoring. The Logistics and Technology segment continues to post the greatest growth, which is mainly driven by the commercial success of Traxporta, increased operation efficiencies in the 3PL logistics and the launch of our pharma vertical. In terms of mobility of cargo, revenue growth has been driven by an increase in special cargo services such as refrigerated, in which Traxion continues to build a very respectable reputation, especially from the Bajio region to the border, and by increases in the price due to the growth in fuel cost pass-through. Both things have pushed revenue per kilometer almost 18%. Moving on to mobility of people. This quarter, Traxion started operations with new clients totaling more than 400 buses. We also began artificial intelligence trials to seek improved operating efficiencies and increase our value-added services to both clients and users. Finally, I would like to talk about the fuel pass-through. As you know, we are in close contact with our clients, and we have achieved an important advance of pass-through in our contracts, which we expect to start kicking into revenues the next quarter. However, we do not expect a full impact of such pass-throughs until the first quarter of 2023. Having said that, I end my remarks, and I will hand it over to Wolf, please?

Wolf Silverstein

executive
#4

Thanks, Rodolfo, and hello, everyone. I want to start by highlighting that this quarter, we are operating on a fully normalized basis compared to the same period of last year, where we still operate with higher demand from the last month of the pandemic. Growth in revenues was truly outstanding. Perhaps the most relevant aspect is that the 3 business divisions post high increases. Our level of service, strong relations with clients and broad portfolio of supply chain solutions are indeed driving such expansion. We have managed to achieve a much better cost and expense control to partially offset the fuel increase that has been affecting our P&L since the beginning of this year. Moving on, in terms of leverage, there is an increase of more than MXN 2.7 billion in total debt, mainly driven by M&A activity and organic growth. However, our leverage ratio is still in a very comfortable area and well within our strategic focus. We continue to make improvements in our overall debt profit, and we have a significant portion of our debt expiring in more than 3 years. All of that coupled with rising interest rates, drove our comprehensive financial results to be MXN 110 million higher than in the same period of last year. Despite of that, our cost of debt remains very efficient, thanks to our overall debt profit. As you can see, we have made significant investments this quarter, both organic and inorganic. It will not fully contribute this year to EBITDA or to profitability. However, we expect such investments to fully kick in as we move into 2023. In terms of cash flow, there is an increase of more than 40% in net operating cash flow, mainly due to improvements in working capital cycle. Finally, our CapEx program is running as planned, and we expect to continue with such progress for the remainder of 2022. Thanks for your attention. I will hand over to Tonio. Please, Tonio.

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#5

Thank you. Hello, everyone. I just want to discuss some other highlights. First, revenue increase is the result of an intensive and successful commercial strategy that pushed growth to be higher than that of recent quarters, which translates into significant advances, both in service penetration and market share. Our 3 segments reported very strong revenue increases, which is especially relevant given the global macro landscape. Margins in our traditional business lines are improving compared to the second quarter of this year, and we are starting to observe the effect of fuel pass-throughs. Fuel costs continues to be the main reason affecting margins. However, as Aby mentioned, we think that a 150 basis point difference in margin compared with what we forecasted is not that material given the circumstances, and Traxion is posting among the highest margins in the industry. Many of our peers have had much worse effect in such items. EBITDA came in at MXN 934 million, which is also the highest EBITDA figure in our history and was mainly affected by fuel costs. And due to that, posted a growth of just 3.5% compared to the same period of last year. In terms of inorganic growth, as you saw, we closed the Medistik deal. So Traxion is in the Pharma Logistics business since this quarter. We are confident that our commercial synergies are going to continue to materialize as we seek for more opportunities to multiply revenue of such division. We also closed the V MODAL acquisition, through which Traxion complemented its service portfolio with rail services. Most important is that both companies operate with a 100% asset-light focus, in line with our inorganic growth strategy. Shifting gears, our ESG program continues to report significant advances. Traxion started trials of electric last-mile vehicles for Redpack. This is a natural step for emissions reduction. And with such trials, we will start analyzing several metrics for further implementation. Furthermore, the company released its diversity and inclusion policy and its corporate governance menu. Please go into our website to access both documents. Well, thanks for your attention. With this, I wrap up my remarks, and we'll now open the floor for Q&A.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] Your first question is coming from Juan Ponce from Bradesco.

Juan Ponce

analyst
#7

My first one is on the agreement with clients, the pass-through cost pressures. Can you remind us what percent have already agreed as of 3Q '22? And also on that front, have clients been receptive? Have you seen any pushback in certain pockets of the market? That would be my first question.

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#8

Juan, this is Rodolfo. Right now, we are around 65% of pass-through to all our clients. Of course, it's not easy. As you said, there's always a pushback, but I think the market is aware that the necessity of the increase is because of the fuel and because of all the needs in the logistics sector. So we have been doing good. It has been tough, but we are now at 65%.

Juan Ponce

analyst
#9

And just a follow-up on this. You mentioned that you should be finished by year-end. Did I hear that correctly?

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#10

Yes. That's our program. We're trying to finish up in the next quarter all the pass-through.

Juan Ponce

analyst
#11

Okay. And my last question, you mentioned several opportunities in the Northern region related to nearshoring. Can you please elaborate on what you are seeing on the ground? And what level of growth rates should we expect in your overall business from nearshoring?

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#12

Juan, this is Tonio. We have been seeing a lot of new opportunities from clients arriving from the U.S. or China. Companies are operating from those countries that are coming to open plants in Mexico. We've seen a lot of opportunities, mainly right now as of today, mainly in the personal transportation business. But of course, as other industrial parks get developed, we expect that we are going to capture some of the manufacturing and logistics derived from such openings. We know that there are some 90 industrial parks under construction in the northern part of Mexico right now.

Operator

operator
#13

Your next question is coming from Luis Yance from Compass.

Luis Yance

analyst
#14

Congrats on the fact that it looks like margins have finally stabilized. So I guess a couple of questions. I guess on margins, let me start with the, I guess, the Logistics and Technology that we saw some compression both sequentially as well as year-over-year. And you mentioned on your press release that it was due to pre-operating expenses on the pharma vertical. Just wondering how much of that gets reversed in the short-term, meaning in the fourth quarter? And should we expect those margins to kind of go back to low double digits? And as we move forward, once you integrate all this, especially the Medistik one that have significantly higher margins, where can we expect margins of this division to grow in, let's say, 2022? That would be my first question.

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#15

Luis, this is Tonio again. As we have discussed -- well, actually, yes, the pre-operating costs have diminished margins in the Logistics and Technology division this quarter. Of course, it's a moving target because as you know, many business lines are under development here: Traxporta, we have the last-mile solutions division, we have the 4PL. This includes the pharma vertical, of course. So such diversity of business lines carry different margins. But over the long run, you should expect and we should expect the Logistics and Technology division to be around 10%. But of course, as I said, it's a moving target. We expect that as Medistik kicks further into revenues and into margin, it could lift the margins somewhat for that big division.

Luis Yance

analyst
#16

Great. And then another question also on the margin side. You mentioned roughly 150 basis points has been taken from the margins due to the fuel price increase, but it seems to be just a matter of time once you get all the pass-throughs completed and reflected on the numbers. The stability in margins that we saw sequentially, and actually, it was more impressive if I take away the compression of logistics, actually, cargo and personnel had a very nice improvement sequentially in terms of margins. Just wondering if that's related to perhaps seasonality or something else or is that actually related to the fact that, as Rodolfo mentioned, 55% of the contracts already were negotiated and you started to see some benefit or out of the 150 basis points, all the benefits should we think that they start in the fourth quarter?

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#17

In cargo, it is mainly pricing, the difference you see. And in mobility of personnel, it's a mixture of both pricing and organic growth.

Luis Yance

analyst
#18

Okay. So it seems like you're still not seeing those benefits. So all those 150 basis points -- 150, I'm sorry, should start coming in the fourth quarter, right?

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#19

Yes. We expect those improved contracts, so to speak, to start kicking in, in the fourth quarter and in the first quarter of next year.

Luis Yance

analyst
#20

Okay. Great. And then on the capital allocation side, now that both acquisitions have been closed. Just wondering when they were announced, those assets were generating roughly MXN 260 million, right, MXN 220 million from Medistik and maybe roughly 40 from V MODAL. Is that a reasonable assumption to think MXN 260 million for the next 12 months? Or given the synergies that you're probably already achieving or looking to achieve, the visibility you have now, the businesses inside you guys, is MXN 260 million probably the floor and perhaps we should think about something, I don't know, closer into the MXN 300 million, MXN 400 million for the next year or so? Or how should we think about that and the progression of synergies on those 2 newly acquired businesses?

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#21

Luis, we expect at least double of EBITDA from acquisitions next year.

Luis Yance

analyst
#22

That's quite a bit. Excellent. And then my last question, I guess, going back to the nearshoring thing, it's interesting you guys mentioned, if I heard you correctly, 50% of your revenues are somehow related to nearshoring. Could you spend or elaborate a little bit more on that? Where is it coming from? And perhaps -- I remember you used to have, I don't know, 10%, 15% of your business was cross-border. Is that still the number? Where do you see that [ going ], et cetera? So if you could give us more detail on your exposure to nearshore would be great.

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#23

Of course, Luis. Well, as you know, it's 50% -- we estimate that 50% of our revenues are related to nearshoring. We estimate that half of that, around 25% of revenues are final goods exported to the U.S. The other half is divided into personal mobility in industrial parks in the north, some raw material transportation and also logistics.

Luis Yance

analyst
#24

Excellent. And I'm guessing, as this develops, because we're seeing clear signs that the nearshoring is a reality, you feel well positioned in the northern part, perhaps given that this is a new trend that we weren't thinking that much about a year or 2 years ago. Is it possible to think that you guys perhaps do some more acquisitions related to this, so you can have a bigger footprint in the north to take advantage of this? Or how do you guys think about the evolution of your exposure to nearshoring in the next couple of years?

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#25

Of course, right now, what we are doing is the commercial muscle, Luis, is on the front line in the field. We are seeking for opportunities. We are capitalizing on many of them. We are being very successful. Actually, nearshoring, we have seen a lot of investment pouring in for the past 2, 3 years. So what we expect is as industrial parks continue to develop and companies start -- continue to establish themselves into Mexico, we expect the growth in cross-border in manufacturing. We expect also, as you can imagine and as you said, organic and inorganic. If we encounter opportunities to strengthen our cross-border capabilities or our logistics capabilities to serve companies on a door-to-door service to the United States, that those would be attractive opportunities for inorganic growth.

Luis Yance

analyst
#26

Could you remind us how much is cross-border right now, roughly speaking?

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#27

The cross-border business is around 20% of our revenues.

Operator

operator
#28

Your next question is coming from Alex Demichelis from Nau Securities.

Alejandro Demichelis

analyst
#29

A couple of questions, if I may. Just to follow-up on the previous question on margins. So if I heard you correctly, you're expecting to recover this 150 basis points at some point next year. And then with doubling of Medistik and V MODAL, can we actually see 2023 margins higher than, say, where they were in 2021, about net? That's the first question.

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#30

Alex, this is Tonio. We expect to recover those 150 basis points in next year. We expect if circumstances normalize, that we -- the company is going to be able to recover and be above 19% of margin.

Alejandro Demichelis

analyst
#31

And then just to clarify, on this quarter, on the third quarter, how much you actually consolidated from Medistik and V MODAL, either on revenue or EBITDA, please?

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#32

We expect Medistik to at least double revenues next year.

Alejandro Demichelis

analyst
#33

No, but, I mean, this quarter, on the third quarter, how much it contributed?

Wolf Silverstein

executive
#34

In terms of revenues, it's around MXN 100 million, what the M&A contributed to the revenues. And in terms of EBITDA, it's around MXN 24 million. So it's -- as you can see, we closed the acquisitions mainly at the end of the quarter. So we're not reflecting almost any figures in this report.

Alejandro Demichelis

analyst
#35

And looking into 2023, again, with the discussions that you're having with the clients, with the manufacturers of trucks and so on, how we should think about your fleet growth for next year or how are you thinking about fleet growth for next year?

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#36

Alex, this is Rodolfo. So what we're trying to do is do efficiency of our fleet. We're growing -- we're trying to do a growth around 10% -- 10%, 50%, not more than that. But we're focusing really hard on improving the efficiency of the fleet we have right now.

Alejandro Demichelis

analyst
#37

And how much efficiency gains do you think you can get from the fleet there?

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#38

So we have been working in these efficiencies, while we always work on this. As you can see in the results of the pricing, it's improving. So we think that we still have some 5%, 6% to do in efficiency.

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#39

Alex, this is Tonio again. If you see, for example, the historic development of the fleet, we are going to see that the fleet has -- since 2019 in organic terms, the fleet has only grown roughly 2%, kilometer volume has grown more than 9%, revenue per kilometer has grown more than 14%. So that's how we've been doing efficiencies with our fleet and that's what we plan to do. However, we are seeing very strong demand for next year, especially in the refrigerated and other specialized services.

Operator

operator
#40

Your next question is coming from Stephen Trent from Citi.

Stephen Trent

analyst
#41

I actually was curious about your views on, let's say, security costs for the business, how you're thinking about the rates of theft. So I guess we have seen, for example, I guess there's been some news that the government is planning to nationalize the police or do something along those lines that somehow merges them with the military. And do you think that certain things need to occur on a policy level that could help you facilitate your operations and how you're thinking about that and how you're thinking about overall security cost for your various segments?

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#42

Steve, this is Tonio. Of course, security is very important for us, and it's very, very, very important for our clients. However, the security matters do not represent -- they represent less than 1% of revenues on a P&L basis. So they are not that significant. But we are very, very, very busy creating protocols that we have -- actually, we have a security committee here. But it's very important for us to give peace of mind to our clients in terms of security. We have a lot of protocols and other procedures in place in order to improve significantly our security issues.

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#43

And regarding what you said about the government, it's not that far for what they have been doing in the last year. So it's -- there has been a lot of noise about this, but it's really the same as the other governments have been doing -- involving the military in some security matters, especially in the border, but it's roughly the same.

Operator

operator
#44

Your next question is coming from [ Edson Marcia ] from [ CIMA Capital ]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#45

The first one is related to the acquisition of V-MODAL. Could you give us a little bit more detail about the rationale of acquiring this company? Because it seems that at least from our perspective, it's not clear how the synergy will transform to better results to the company despite of -- Sandler you already mentioned that MXN 100 million that contributed in this quarter? So that will be the first one. The second one is regarding to the cost of debt. Could you give us a little bit of an insight about how the [indiscernible] are impacting the [indiscernible] that you have? And what do we expect for the next quarters?

Rodolfo Mercado Franco

executive
#46

This is Rodolfo. Regarding V-MODAL question, we see the intermodal business a great complement for our business right now. We have a great cross-selling opportunities to our business line of cargo and logistics. So we really think we can push this business section through our actual clients, and we think we can grow the company really good.

Wolf Silverstein

executive
#47

In terms of the second question, in terms of the cost of debt, as you can see, there's 2 different effects. The first one is mainly the company has usually more than 60% coverage of their debt. So we are right now between 65%, including the M&A funding. So we usually try to be a little bit above that. So we are trying to do different things to analyze what is better for the company. So we should be around 50% to 72%, 75%, that we are usually into that coverage of our debt. And in terms of the cost, as you can see, we have 2 different effects. First one was the hike in terms of the rates. And the second one was also the level of the debt, including the acquisitions at the end of the quarter. So that was mainly the main effects. And for the future, we expect a little bit to benefit with different improvements, and the cost of debt in the company.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#48

Okay. And last, regarding on cash and equivalents, if you compare to the previous quarter, right now, cash is below MXN 1 billion. But what level do you feel comfortable enough regarding cash and equivalents?

Wolf Silverstein

executive
#49

We usually are -- before COVID time, we were usually between these levels, between MXN 600 million to MXN 850 million. So we feel comfortable in these levels. And even if we create more and more cash, we will think what else we can do with that money in terms of the cash position in the company. But we feel comfortable on these levels.

Operator

operator
#50

[Operator Instructions] Your next question is coming from Martin Lara from Miranda Global Research.

Martín Lara

analyst
#51

I have two questions. The first one is where do you see the leverage during the next few quarters? And the second one is, if we should expect additional pre-operating costs and expenses in the new pharmaceutical distribution business?

Wolf Silverstein

executive
#52

Regarding your first question, in terms of debt, remember -- if you remember, our internal policy is to be below 2.5% net debt to EBITDA. We are expecting to be more around 2% to 2.3%. So if you see for the next quarter, we think we're going to be in that range. And in terms of the operating expenses, we already put in place almost all the investments that we need for this pharma vertical. So for the next quarters, we can expect, as Tonio mentioned before, we're not expecting the margins to be below 10%. So we can expect something say at least 10% and higher.

Operator

operator
#53

That concludes our Q&A session. I will now hand the conference back to Antonio Tejedo, Vice President of Investor Relations, for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Antonio Tejedo

executive
#54

Currently, for us, the name of the game is nearshoring. Traxion will continue to capitalize on opportunities brought by such strength with a very strong balance and an aggressive commercial activity. The company has leadership position in several initiatives that directly serve current and potential clients seeking nearshoring in Mexico. Traxion has continued to move forward. And despite current challenges, it has managed to post once again record high figures. Thanks for your attention, and have an excellent week.

Operator

operator
#55

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

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